What sport in your opinion do the fighters have to be tougher in, as far as physical damage, pain, etc..

hmmmm... i wud probably say MMA...

however in boxing you take more punishment to the head (in most cases), in MMA the punishment is often in different parts of the body: the arms, the legs etc... and i dont know about anyone else but i would rather get put into a leg lock and be able to tap out than to take head shots from Iron Mike for 12 rounds.

I would say MMA. :boxing:

i dont know about anyone else but i would rather get put into a leg lock and be able to tap out than to take head shots from Iron Mike for 12 rounds.


That's exactly the reason that people think that boxers are tougher. A mma expert will argue that boxing is more dangerous. There are more injuries associated with boxing than there are in MMA. Also, with MMA you've got wrestlers that will rather fight a man that's on their back than stand up toe to toe with them. I think that the stand up guy is more of a man than the wrestler.

That's exactly the reason that people think that boxers are tougher. A mma expert will argue that boxing is more dangerous. There are more injuries associated with boxing than there are in MMA. Also, with MMA you've got wrestlers that will rather fight a man that's on their back than stand up toe to toe with them. I think that the stand up guy is more of a man than the wrestler.

agreed, in boxing there is no way out - you gotta take the shots but also have the heart to give them back.

Less idle time in boxing, to.

I've trained in both boxing and MMA disciplines, and though I like watching two men fighting stand up go toe to toe instead of going to the ground and trying to submit each other. MMA fighters take more all around physical punishment, and suffer from all kinds of broken legs, arms, hands, ribs. Boxers of course take more punishment to their heads though,which i think also explains why there are more deaths in boxing than MMA. But my vote goes to MMA fighters but really not by much at all.

Boxing is definatly more physically demanding because their is less rest time, but MMA fighters gotta take a lot of shit, knees and bows specifically. Also leg kicking a boxer is probably the worst thing you could do to them, but an MMA fighter has to be able to take leg kicks all the time, a perfect example is the Bonnar vs. Jardine fight the other day, i know i wouldnt be able to take the leg shots Bonnar had to take.

Heres a question..i was looking at some greek guy..and hes like one of the best fighters in the world...but i can't remember his name? Any ideas?

boxer or MMA?

I just get so sick of MMA bashing of boxing. I'm all for all forms of fighting but wrestling. Don't get me wrong, I'll train in wrestling because I know that my opponent may take me to the ground, but I just find it to be a cowardly way of fighting someone. What do you guys think.

i wouldnt say its cowardly, wrestlings a tough ass sport. But i definatly prefer boxing to MMA.

Boxing is definatly tougher.

i wouldnt say its cowardly, wrestlings a tough ass sport. But i definatly prefer boxing to MMA.


I'm talking about a fighter wanting to take a person down during a fight. Doesn't it seem pretty cowardly to you that a guy is looking to put his opponent on his back, where he'll have little to no offensive chance, in order to find him, instead of standing up toe to toe with him where both are at equal chance?

I'm talking about a fighter wanting to take a person down during a fight. Doesn't it seem pretty cowardly to you that a guy is looking to put his opponent on his back, where he'll have little to no offensive chance, in order to find him, instead of standing up toe to toe with him where both are at equal chance?

Damn right, what does fighting on the floor prove?

12 rounds of exchanging blows man to man is a lot tougher and braver than any MMA.

I agree, boxing is a true one on one battle, no submissions or tapping out just a vicious fight to the very end.

Boxing is the tougher sport and the more dangerous sport.
The beating is more prolonged in boxing.

Boxers are tougher, because when they get hit they just get hit again because of the gloves, harder to KO someone with those.

MMA fighters are the best athletes in the world(Not the best trained however that goes to Boxers!)But aren't as tough as boxers because they get hit, and the fight is over. They are still the best fighters in the world by far and that is probably the most dangerous sport on earth, moreso than Football or Boxing!

They are still the best fighters in the world by far

Most MMA I've seen is useful only against someone trained in the same way. I used to do martial arts and when I compare it to the boxing I do now there are big differences.
I found many of the blocking techniques tought in martial arts to be impractical and only useful at blocking blows that have been thrown in a certain way.

As a whole, boxers are tougher, better conditioned, better trained and the better fighters.

Most MMA I've seen is useful only against someone trained in the same way. I used to do martial arts and when I compare it to the boxing I do now there are big differences.
I found many of the blocking techniques tought in martial arts to be impractical and only useful at blocking blows that have been thrown in a certain way.

As a whole, boxers are tougher, better conditioned, better trained and the better fighters.

I really dont see how this is true, in MMA there are pleny of matchups in which two fighters are going head to head that are trained in different disciplines, a while back someone posted an MMA fight with a muay thai kickboxer fighting a boxer and the results were disastrous for the boxer this is a perfect example. It's called Mixed Martial Arts for a reason... I see your talking about the blocking techniques that martial artists use, but also realize that not a lot of them are used in an MMA fight whether it be Pride or UFC, most of those blocking techniques are only taught because theyre part of the forms or katas, those arent used in MMA from what ive seen.

muay thai kickboxer fighting a boxer and the results were disastrous for the boxer

A decent boxer would have got inside and neutralised the kicks. That video doesn't prove anything except that they can knock terrible boxers to the flooer but not keep them there.

A decent boxer would have got inside and neutralised the kicks. That video doesn't prove anything except that they can knock terrible boxers to the flooer but not keep them there.

maybe, but the point is that there are plenty of matchups where different fighting styles are used, thats why its called Mixed Martial Arts. I will agree that the boxer that got owned was no Roy Jones Jr. This whole debate doesnt answer the question about whose tougher really, my view is that both are tougher in different ways.The main point im trying to get out is MMA is one fighting style going up against another fighting style not just whose the better kickboxer, wrestler, boxer, or jujitsu artist, there are a few guys on this board who will tell u the same.

actually MMA is its own style, it is just whose the better fighter, not one style against another because MMA is a style

is probably the most dangerous sport on earth, moreso than Football or Boxing!


I don't see how you can type that shit with a straight face. Compare the amount and magnitude of injuries that occur in Football and MMA and it's not even close. Football players have some type of injury nearly everyday of the week. Think about the head on collisions that occur in football. There's a higher amount of people that become parapalegics from football than there is from MMA. Plus, the injuries in football are very serious and they happen often-- torn acl, blown out knee, achilles tear, etc.

Also, in boxing you're taking shots to the head. Now you tell me what's more dangerous: an injury to your brain, or an injury to your leg?

I don't even think it's close in a debate in which sports are more dangerous. This, and other reasons I've stated in this thread, is why I think that boxers have to be considered as much tougher fighters than Mixed Martial Art's fighters.

MMA fighters get killed alot more often than they do in any other sport, and those are the facts.

dont get me wrong i love boxing a lot more...

Tougher? There's though fighters in all sports.
Only difference is that they don't deal with the same type of pain during a combat cause they have different rules.

The boxer, has to deal with a shitload of punches to the head and body. And the bigger gloves don't help either..Because it actually dammages the brain even more than those small 4oz gloves you see in mma. Its easier to KO someone with little gloves, but in boxing..the brain suffers way more.
Technically, on the long run. Boxing is more dangerous. Because your chances to end up with Parkinson's desease when you get older are higher in this sport.There's even deaths in boxing for **** sakes!


The Kickboxer also fights with boxing gloves but He's generally more preoccupied with kicks than punches. Cause 60 to 70% of the fight has low, mid & high kicks.or knee attacks etc.
The only dangerous and extremely brutal things about kickboxing are the flush knees to the face and highkicks too. (shin to the neck area or the face)
Generally, It's an instant KO. So no need for an 8 count. Not all highkicks have the same effect and power though.
Kicks are way more powerful than any punches but the positive aspect is that, unlike boxers..They're not gonna eat leather for 12 ****in rounds. Of course, a kickboxer's legs & body are oftenly dealing with a lot of pain.

The muay thai fighter, is probably one of the toughest though. They have to deal with elbows, and the muay thai clinch too. Even their training is pretty ****ed up.

The mma fighter..Well, it depends...Slams, suplexes are also part of the game. In the ufc they allow elbows. (elbows rarely KO an opponent. but they cut you easily. Which is why mma tends to look more barbaric for the average joe I guess.
In pride however, they allow stomps, soccer kicks to the face,knees on a downed opponent. there's a 1rst 10 min long round!! and 2 other 5 min rounds each. but there's always plenty of takedowns and ground fighting in mma. Some veteran mmaers have back problems.
The beatings can be extremely brutal in mma too though.
But it all depends on the ref.
sometimes the fights are prematurely stopped. sometimes, there's a blood bath.

You wanna see tuff?
Watch Sakuraba VS Ricardo Arona In Pride fc.
Watch Lamon Brewster vs Sergei Lyakhovich in Boxing.
Watch Antonio Rodriguo Nogueira vs Fedor Emelianenko in Pride.
Watch Hunt VS Le Banner in kickboxing.
Watch Gatti VS Ward in boxing..

Etc... there's tff fighters in all sports imo.

MMA fighters get killed alot more often than they do in any other sport, and those are the facts.

No, the facts are that most people die in horse racing. And more people die and suffer long term effects of boxing than MMA.

MMA fighters get killed alot more often than they do in any other sport, and those are the facts.


lol, is that really the case? Then why's it that UFC President Dana White has been on MSNBC and FOX NEWS saying that there has never been a death in MMA, UFC?

Now, how many deaths have there been in boxing in the past decades?

a lot more than 0.

Tougher? There's though fighters in all sports.
Only difference is that they don't deal with the same type of pain during a combat cause they have different rules.

The boxer, has to deal with a shitload of punches to the head and body. And the bigger gloves don't help either..Because it actually dammages the brain even more than those small 4oz gloves you see in mma. Its easier to KO someone with little gloves, but in boxing..the brain suffers way more.
Technically, on the long run. Boxing is more dangerous. Because your chances to end up with Parkinson's desease when you get older are higher in this sport.There's even deaths in boxing for **** sakes!


The Kickboxer also fights with boxing gloves but He's generally more preoccupied with kicks than punches. Cause 60 to 70% of the fight has low, mid & high kicks.or knee attacks etc.
The only dangerous and extremely brutal things about kickboxing are the flush knees to the face and highkicks too. (shin to the neck area or the face)
Generally, It's an instant KO. So no need for an 8 count. Not all highkicks have the same effect and power though.
Kicks are way more powerful than any punches but the positive aspect is that, unlike boxers..They're not gonna eat leather for 12 ****in rounds. Of course, a kickboxer's legs & body are oftenly dealing with a lot of pain.

The muay thai fighter, is probably one of the toughest though. They have to deal with elbows, and the muay thai clinch too. Even their training is pretty ****ed up.

The mma fighter..Well, it depends...Slams, suplexes are also part of the game. In the ufc they allow elbows. (elbows rarely KO an opponent. but they cut you easily. Which is why mma tends to look more barbaric for the average joe I guess.
In pride however, they allow stomps, soccer kicks to the face,knees on a downed opponent. there's a 1rst 10 min long round!! and 2 other 5 min rounds each. but there's always plenty of takedowns and ground fighting in mma. Some veteran mmaers have back problems.
The beatings can be extremely brutal in mma too though.
But it all depends on the ref.
sometimes the fights are prematurely stopped. sometimes, there's a blood bath.

You wanna see tuff?
Watch Sakuraba VS Ricardo Arona In Pride fc.
Watch Lamon Brewster vs Sergei Lyakhovich in Boxing.
Watch Antonio Rodriguo Nogueira vs Fedor Emelianenko in Pride.
Watch Hunt VS Le Banner in kickboxing.
Watch Gatti VS Ward in boxing..

Etc... there's tff fighters in all sports imo.

Man, I gotta give it up to you, you always come with knowledgeable post and you're never biased.

KArma points for you.

lol, is that really the case? Then why's it that UFC President Dana White has been on MSNBC and FOX NEWS saying that there has never been a death in MMA, UFC?

There's never been a death in a sanctioned MMA event that I know of, yet there was at least one death in an unsanctioned event some years ago in Russia (I think) when a fighter by the name of Douglas Dredge died after competing over there...It should also be noted that Dredge apparently had some prefight medical concerns when he reportedly passed out on a few occasions while in training and after refusing treatment from doctors, still went ahead with the fight.