View Full Version : can diaz hang with the 'big boys" @ 135...corrales castillo freitas??


dino
04-09-2006, 12:42 AM
do u think he can beat them...ive seen him fight and he looks awesome...but he could be like david reid..look super-human vs lesser competition then be trash vs the big boys

DiegoFuego
04-09-2006, 12:44 AM
how good is his chin? that's what really matters when you're talking about fights with Corrales, Castillo, etc

Alibata
04-09-2006, 12:44 AM
Diaz was impressive. I thought he was going to punch himself out. I think he would get caught by Corrales though and does not have the power to hurt Corrales. It's possible though if he can take a shot. Corrales would severely test that chin.

dino
04-09-2006, 12:44 AM
his chin has never been tested

drez24
04-09-2006, 12:44 AM
I would love to see Diaz in with the big boys. He looked awesome tonight.

Versastyle
04-09-2006, 12:48 AM
now ya'll wanna talk about him. he's been around for a while. but ne way yeah he can hang with the big boys all he needs is pressure pressure pressure

TacoMuerte
04-09-2006, 12:50 AM
If Diaz go's down, its gonna be EARLY IN THE FIGHT. Cause once the fight gets goin, his gloves go up to his face and his mind is tuned in to weather punches that sneak in...

I think He can pull off a W over Diego Corrales just cause Corrales has that chin. I even think its possible for him to beat Castillo since Castillo has those slow but heavy hands. I see Juan landin those infamous quick 1,2's with ease and frustrating Castilllo if Castillo doesn't come into the fight Focused and Paitent.

DiegoFuego
04-09-2006, 12:50 AM
now ya'll wanna talk about him. he's been around for a while. but ne way yeah he can hang with the big boys all he needs is pressure pressure pressure

yeah but he's been on a huge layoff, hasn't he? last time i saw him was against sim on that card in 2004 that had cintron, juarez, raheem, etc

IwatchBoxing
04-09-2006, 12:51 AM
Remenber, Jose's claim to fame is KO'ing the guy Valero went with to round 2, in 7.

xcaret
04-09-2006, 12:53 AM
Remenber, Jose's claim to fame is KO'ing the guy Valero went with to round 2, in 7.

Hey boiii, Add another Mexican beating a Puerto Rican to your list :)

Versastyle
04-09-2006, 12:54 AM
yeah but he's been on a huge layoff, hasn't he? last time i saw him was against sim on that card in 2004 that had cintron, juarez, raheem, etc


the fight in my hometown was after that sim fight :cool: :boxing:

Ricomania77
04-09-2006, 12:55 AM
Hey boiii, Add another Mexican beating a Puerto Rican to your list :)
lol... :boxing:

TacoMuerte
04-09-2006, 12:56 AM
Puerto Rican's dont like black people in PR. They'll burn down Dominican shops and Haitian shops, but Puerto Ricos best fighters are either black or part black..lol That **** is morbid..

IwatchBoxing
04-09-2006, 12:56 AM
Hey boiii, Add another Mexican beating a Puerto Rican to your list :)
Sure will, still got three more title fights this year to go (so far). I think we are gonna end up even this year...

Versastyle
04-09-2006, 12:57 AM
yeah but he's been on a huge layoff, hasn't he? last time i saw him was against sim on that card in 2004 that had cintron, juarez, raheem, etc


there ya go http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=29486

Alibata
04-09-2006, 12:58 AM
I thought Jose Cotto threw pitter pat punches all night. Either he don't have a punch or those body blows got to him. I would tune in to see him fight Corrales. I don't think he wants to play on the inside againts Corrales though. He has to throw those quick straight combos all night and keep Corrales at bay.

xcaret
04-09-2006, 12:58 AM
Sure will, still got three more title fights this year to go (so far). I think we are gonna end up even this year...

The other Cotto is next :)

keystone30pack
04-09-2006, 12:59 AM
diaz has been hurt and down twice in his career early but came back to win. he wasn't even phased with what he ate from sim in their fight who is underrated himself. if diaz is gonna take on the big boys he will need to do it at this young of an age because his brawling style and relentless speed attack will not be there for him forever.
in an interview last week he said that he still wants hatton but his manager turned it down because the money wasn't right.

DiegoFuego
04-09-2006, 01:00 AM
there ya go http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=29486

my mistake. excuse me for not remembering all those big name opponents.

Versastyle
04-09-2006, 01:03 AM
my mistake. excuse me for not remembering all those big name opponents.


well u didnt say big names. u said that was the last 1 u remembered

keystone30pack
04-09-2006, 01:04 AM
hes only 22 man this ppv fight will bring a big fight for him- although wouldnt doubt if he beats up an aging cassamayor next. joel has been wanting this fight for some time. diaz will wear casa down.

DiegoFuego
04-09-2006, 01:05 AM
well u didnt say big names. u said that was the last 1 u remembered

have any of those other ones been televised?

keystone30pack
04-09-2006, 01:06 AM
have any of those other ones been televised?

irwin, sim

Versastyle
04-09-2006, 01:07 AM
have any of those other ones been televised?


jus the 1 in san antonio fter the sim fight i think

machotime
04-09-2006, 01:24 AM
his chin has never been tested
Jose Cotto hit him with some clean shots. Juan Diaz walked through them.

Jaun Diaz is relentless and just needs more experience. He can box as well as fight. He can take many punches and dish out incredible 7-punch combos. His chin is not the question here.

Juan Diaz will be a Boxing Superstar.

TacoMuerte
04-09-2006, 01:44 AM
he wasn't even phased with what he ate from sim

I was about to type the same ****, Lavka can connect on power shots. Jose even connected tonight..

But when Juan is 3 rounds deep into a fight...His gloves come up and his brain is adjusted to weather shots.

TacoMuerte
04-09-2006, 01:46 AM
Jaun Diaz is relentless and just needs more experience.


He needs to work out his back and lower back to give him some more sting on those quick short shots. Fighters ALWAYS look like they wanna go to sleep after a Juan Diaz fight after the 9th round when they get hit flush..

He needs that extra sting to his will..

GunStar
04-09-2006, 01:51 AM
Hey boiii, Add another Mexican beating a Puerto Rican to your list :)Actually Diaz is American with Mexican heritage just like DeLaHoya, he's a true American born citizen. That's what's America is made off, every American has a different heritage.

xcaret
04-09-2006, 01:54 AM
Actually Diaz is American with Mexican heritage just like DeLaHoya, he's a true American born citizen. That's what's America is made off, every American has a different heritage.


So? Hes Mexican blooded, that makes him Mexican!

GunStar
04-09-2006, 02:02 AM
So? Hes Mexican blooded, that makes him Mexican!He's still an American, that makes him an American with Mexican bloodline. Every American has different bloodline, if that was the case, then we would not have any Americans.

Cholo901
04-09-2006, 02:08 AM
Didn't Diaz represent Mexico in the olympics and also turn pro at the age of 16 in Mexico.

RwK
04-09-2006, 02:10 AM
He's still an American, that makes him an American with Mexican bloodline. Every American has different bloodline, if that was the case, then we would not have any Americans.

Diaz is a Mexican, bro.

The blood inside his veins originates from across the border.

GunStar
04-09-2006, 02:14 AM
Diaz is a Mexican, bro.

The blood inside his veins originates from across the border.No! He's an American with Mexican bloodline, if you are born in America, that makes you an American.

Let me ask you a question, if Diaz is not an American, then what is an American, please answer??

Versastyle
04-09-2006, 02:14 AM
Diaz is a Mexican, bro.

The blood inside his veins originates from across the border.


mine comes from africa but im american :D :boxing:

GunStar
04-09-2006, 02:15 AM
mine comes from africa but im american :D :boxing:Exatly! :D

RwK
04-09-2006, 02:21 AM
mine comes from africa but im american :D :boxing:

Diaz' ring entrance music was a song by Los Tigres Del Norte called "El Jefe De Jefes".

Are you going to jam an African tribal chant when you come into the ring as a pro?

I doubt you are. See what I'm getting at?


Let me ask you a question, if Diaz is not an American, then what is an American, please answer??

Diaz is a Mexican American.

A Mexican American is a Mexican.

Versastyle
04-09-2006, 02:24 AM
Diaz' ring entrance music was a song by Los Tigres Del Norte called "El Jefe De Jefes".

Are you going to jam an African tribal chant when you come into the ring as a pro?

I doubt you are. See what I'm getting at?



Diaz is a Mexican American.

A Mexican American is a Mexican.


u do know he was born in h-town right.

Versastyle
04-09-2006, 02:26 AM
Diaz' ring entrance music was a song by Los Tigres Del Norte called "El Jefe De Jefes".

Are you going to jam an African tribal chant when you come into the ring as a pro?

I doubt you are. See what I'm getting at?



Diaz is a Mexican American.

A Mexican American is a Mexican.


jus cusious so whast de la hoya to u then :cool2:

RwK
04-09-2006, 02:27 AM
u do know he was born in h-town right.

Sup Hun Chi born in Koreatown U.S.A.

Is he a Korean? yes he is.

RwK
04-09-2006, 02:28 AM
jus cusious so whast de la hoya to u then :cool2:

Oscar De La Hoya is a Mexican. Simple as that.

GunStar
04-09-2006, 02:28 AM
Diaz' ring entrance music was a song by Los Tigres Del Norte called "El Jefe De Jefes".

Are you going to jam an African tribal chant when you come into the ring as a pro?

I doubt you are. See what I'm getting at?



Diaz is a Mexican American.

A Mexican American is a Mexican. So what your saying, there is no such a thing as American, I guess we have no Americans, everyone has a different bloodline in America, that what America is all about.

RwK
04-09-2006, 02:30 AM
So what your saying, there is no such a thing as American, I guess we have no Americans, everyone has a different bloodline in America, that what America is all about.

Yawn!

In a related story, Juan "The Baby Bull" Diaz continued his unbeaten streak tonight against a Puerto Rican fighter by the name of Jose Cotto.

Versastyle
04-09-2006, 02:30 AM
Oscar De La Hoya is a Mexican. Simple as that.


why do so many "REAL" mexican dislike like him cause hes not a "REAL" mexican and they talk about these on the hbo special with him vs. trinidad. and i thought there was a difference between hispanic and mexican :confused: dont make fun of me :p

RwK
04-09-2006, 02:31 AM
why do so many "REAL" mexican dislike like him cause hes not a "REAL" mexican and they talk about these on the hbo special with him vs. trinidad. and i thought there was a difference between hispanic and mexican :confused:

Alot of Mexicans don't approve of his fighting style.

Simple as that. Mexicans wan't to see guys fight with balls.

Why do you think they adore Fernando Vargas?

GunStar
04-09-2006, 02:32 AM
Yawn!

Lol, it's the fact bro & you really have no answer that backs it. An America born is an American or else we would not have any Americans.

RwK
04-09-2006, 02:34 AM
Lol, it's the fact bro & you really have no answer that backs it. An America born is an American or else we would not have any Americans.

Fernando Vargas, Born in Oxnard California.

Ask a Mexican if they think he's Mexican. LOL!

This discussion is absolutely retarded.

TacoMuerte
04-09-2006, 02:36 AM
Lol, it's the fact bro & you really have no answer that backs it. An America born is an American or else we would not have any Americans.

lol Juan Diaz is too brown skinned to be a "American."

GunStar
04-09-2006, 02:38 AM
lol Juan Diaz is too brown skinned to be a "American."So what your saying, then all blacks are not American. :rolleyes:

GunStar
04-09-2006, 02:38 AM
Fernando Vargas, Born in Oxnard California.

Ask a Mexican if they think he's Mexican. LOL!

This discussion is absolutely retarded. Then what is an American???

Pico Hollywood
04-09-2006, 02:44 AM
Puerto Rican's dont like black people in PR. They'll burn down Dominican shops and Haitian shops, but Puerto Ricos best fighters are either black or part black..lol That **** is morbid..


Damn Responding back to this Dumbass post with Facts would take up to much energy

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
04-09-2006, 02:57 AM
I still think he looses to Diaz, Corrales, and Castillo.

JOM'S
04-09-2006, 03:00 AM
IMHO, Juan Diaz is Mexican American and he can fight for both countries, just like having dual citizenship, yes he is American but we all know he is Mexican

just like Brian Villoria, he is Filipino American and although USA has another world titlist everybody knows he is Filipino ...

GunStar
04-09-2006, 03:02 AM
IMHO, Juan Diaz is Mexican American and he can fight for both countries, just like having dual citizenship, yes he is American but we all know he is Mexican

just like Brian Villoria, he is Filipino American and although USA has another world titlist everybody knows he is Filipino ...Then what is an American??? Since none of you can really answer this question.

JOM'S
04-09-2006, 03:07 AM
Then what is an American??? Since none of you can really answer this question.

nobody is taking away that Juan and Brian are Americans, they surely are being born and raised in the US...

but they are also a Mexican and a Pinoy...

RwK
04-09-2006, 03:07 AM
IMHO, Juan Diaz is Mexican American and he can fight for both countries, just like having dual citizenship, yes he is American but we all know he is Mexican


That is correct sir. That's just how it works.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
04-09-2006, 03:09 AM
Most of the answers here seem far from the truth at the Mexican-American issue.

Mexican fans appreciate boxers they dont just have to be brawlers and believe it or not they dont even have to be 100% Mexicans, but what wins the heart of Mexicans is one that represents.

Contrary to popular belief Mexicans love Oscar. Yes some hate him, but most love him.

I admit i dont really like him, i think he coulda continued agaisnt Hopkins, and I feel that he does a disservice to boxing by hyping up mild- to non-threat opponents and fighting once a year. Either retire or get to fighting.

As for Juan Diaz, I like the kid as a person, but i simply dont think he has what it takes to take on the other diaz, or corrales, or Castillo.

Mech.
04-09-2006, 03:13 AM
I still think he looses to Diaz, Corrales, and Castillo.

You see the fight tonight?

GunStar
04-09-2006, 03:14 AM
nobody is taking away that Juan and Brian are Americans, they surely are being born and raised in the US...

but they are also a Mexican and a Pinoy...Will you just did. They are Mexican & Pinoy bloodline, but they are real Americans first & that is the fact. This is why we have so many damn parades in America. You can still be proud of your bloodline, but if you're born In US, then you are American first, no ifs & buts about it.

Unless someone can tell me what makes a person American, but I guess no one can't. :rolleyes:

RwK
04-09-2006, 03:15 AM
Mexican fans appreciate boxers they dont just have to be brawlers and believe it or not they dont even have to be 100% Mexicans, but what wins the heart of Mexicans is one that represents.

Contrary to popular belief Mexicans love Oscar. Yes some hate him, but most love him.


I see what you're saying.

Oscar represents.... despite others thinking he's a sellout. But he's not a brawler and that's why there's a mix of the two elements. You and I both know they wan't to see people die by the sword in a fight, if they carry the ****ing flag into the ring with them, or enter with mariachis, or fit the bill like it's supposed to be.

Fact remains....you'll find some that hate him or love him.

It's perception man.

TacoMuerte
04-09-2006, 03:29 AM
So what your saying, then all blacks are not American. :rolleyes:

Blacks are aware of their portaint of racism..

GunStar
04-09-2006, 03:33 AM
Blacks are aware of their portaint of racism..Great answer dude, everyone can be racist, blacks, whites, latinos, Asians, Jewish etc....

Most blacks are proud Americans. Color has nothing to with being an American.

TacoMuerte
04-09-2006, 03:53 AM
Color has nothing to with being an American.

Right..

Whites are kinda snakish, but I know some decent white guys...I get along with alot of white people but they will joke about Mexicans with blacks and will joke about blacks with Mexicans. NOT ALL OF THEM. But whatever bubble gum vision you got stuck in your head about "Americans," don't be surprised if you find out its all bull****..

xcaret
04-09-2006, 04:09 AM
Diaz is Mexican nuff said.

Another victory for Mexicans from the MXvsPR rivalry.

next?

Zab Super Judah
04-09-2006, 05:25 AM
do u think he can beat them...ive seen him fight and he looks awesome...but he could be like david reid..look super-human vs lesser competition then be trash vs the big boys

He would get beat by castillo and corrales. Freitas, Im not too sure

xcaret
04-09-2006, 05:27 AM
You guys are forgetting the fact that hes only 22, still young.

TacoMuerte
04-09-2006, 05:37 AM
Diaz is Mexican nuff said.

Another victory for Mexicans from the MXvsPR rivalry.

next?

lol Basically..

GunStar
04-09-2006, 05:39 AM
Right..

Whites are kinda snakish, but I know some decent white guys...I get along with alot of white people but they will joke about Mexicans with blacks and will joke about blacks with Mexicans. NOT ALL OF THEM. But whatever bubble gum vision you got stuck in your head about "Americans," don't be surprised if you find out its all bull****..So you only consider whites to be American, to me that's BS. Racism has nothing to do with who's American, I'm pretty sure many different races make fun of one another, that happens all the time. Still it has nothing to do with who's American.

Fact is if your born in America, then you are an American, every person in America has a different bloodline.

Juan Diaz is American, end of story.

GunStar
04-09-2006, 05:39 AM
Diaz is Mexican nuff said.

Another victory for Mexicans from the MXvsPR rivalry.

next?

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=029486

Next?

xcaret
04-09-2006, 05:53 AM
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=029486

Next?

hmmmm.... what?

keystone30pack
04-09-2006, 11:29 AM
diaz is mexican-american. this discussion seems pointless

Versastyle
04-09-2006, 11:32 AM
1 thing i find funny is that some of u guys say another victory for the mexican's but i bet alot of u guys never seen his fights or know what he's about. i think its called jumping on the bandwagon :D

GunStar
04-09-2006, 11:34 AM
1 thing i find funny is that some of u guys say another victory for the mexican's but i bet alot of u guys never seen his fights or know what he's about. i think its called jumping on the bandwagon :DExactly, but the funny thing is he's an American with Mexican bloodline. But some Mexican will never accept that he's an American. :rolleyes:

Versastyle
04-09-2006, 11:36 AM
Exactly, but the funny thing is he's an American with Mexican bloodline. But some Mexican will never accept that he's an American. :rolleyes:


yeah i know. somethings u cant argue with :o