View Full Version : How will Judah beat Mayweather??


adeelr
04-08-2006, 03:19 PM
I have no idea, how judah is going to handle Mayweather tonight?
So all the boxing analysts here, could you please post your strategies for Judah to win.

deuce_drop
04-08-2006, 03:41 PM
for judah to win, mayweather is going to have to come in drunk..........

that or get lucky with one or some big shots that mayweather can't see, because there is no way that zab can out box mayweather. zab doesn't have the discipline to out box or out punch mayweather. and by out punch i mean his punch out put, i think that judah has solid power but relies on it too much. plus judah likes to admire his work too much and poses after he throws a punch.......

Shanus
04-08-2006, 03:42 PM
How will Judah beat Mayweather??
He won't.. end of thread.

Derranged
04-08-2006, 03:47 PM
Counter Mayweather when he leaps in.

supaduck
04-08-2006, 03:58 PM
If he catches him on the chin. It's unlikely though.

adeelr
04-08-2006, 04:02 PM
How will Judah beat Mayweather??
He won't.. end of thread.
We have seen pretty crazy upsets in the past, and they happen when we least suspect it.
I agree its very hard for judah to even scratch mayweather, but like bert sugar said that mayweather leans to the right and judah is sothpaw, which will work as an advantage for judah...

adeelr
04-08-2006, 04:04 PM
Counter Mayweather when he leaps in.
HOW?? mayweather doesnot just leap in like that.
He is not somebody like prince naseem.

USA4LIFE
04-08-2006, 04:05 PM
I personaly think in the first few rounds Judah is going to go for broke and try to get PBF out of their quick b/c I just don't see him trying to counter PBF or taking his time and box him. That's the only way IMO that he could beat him.

abdiel2k3
04-08-2006, 04:07 PM
i dont see any possibility if zab beating floyd
maye KOin him
but not beatin him
id be absolutely astonished if zab is able to win rounds against floyd

adeelr
04-08-2006, 04:08 PM
I personaly think in the first few rounds Judah is going to go for broke and try to get PBF out of their quick b/c I just don't see him trying to counter PBF or taking his time and box him. That's the only way IMO that he could beat him.
I somewhat agree with you,
but i think that Judah truly believes he is a better fighter than Mayweather, and for that reason he might wanna hang out for a while and test his skills against him...which we all know is a BIG mistake.

abdiel2k3
04-08-2006, 04:08 PM
HOW?? mayweather doesnot just leap in like that.
He is not somebody like prince naseem.
yes he does
he jumps in with his left hook sometimes
and sorta dives in with the right
its no where near as sloppy as nazs jumpin
but dont be confused
floyd def likes to jump in with some punches

Violent Demise
04-08-2006, 04:08 PM
Counter Mayweather when he leaps in.

Do you mean when he walks to the ring and leaps in?

adeelr
04-08-2006, 04:13 PM
yes he does
he jumps in with his left hook sometimes
and sorta dives in with the right
its no where near as sloppy as nazs jumpin
but dont be confused
floyd def likes to jump in with some punches
but like you said its not sloppy as Naz, and he comes back right away. And i dont think mayweather would leap in unless he already has judah in trouble

abdiel2k3
04-08-2006, 04:15 PM
but like you said its not sloppy as Naz, and he comes back right away. And i dont think mayweather would leap in unless he already has judah in trouble
doestn have to be as sloppy as naz
but hes still doin somethin that shouldnt
and with judahs quickness
if he times it right
he can def catch floyd and shake things up
PLUS
hes a southpaw

blockhead
04-08-2006, 04:18 PM
the best strategy for judah is to get someone to bribe floyd into taking a dive, because he could stand to win a lot of cash that way. other than that i dont see many chances for judah in this one.

adeelr
04-08-2006, 04:18 PM
doestn have to be as sloppy as naz
but hes still doin somethin that shouldnt
and with judahs quickness
if he times it right
he can def catch floyd and shake things up
PLUS
hes a southpaw
Ok i guess,
1st weakpoint for mayweather is leaping in with the left hook and judah countering quickly.

what else, or would this be enuff for judah to put mayweather down...

jason100x
04-08-2006, 04:20 PM
Judah would have to come in at the top of his game to win this and Mayweather would have to have slacked off some in the gym or not have 100% focus during the fight. Last night I watched Mayweather's last couple of fights again and his defense is superb. Same with his counterpunching. Judah would have to take it to him to have a chance to KO Mayweather and by taking it to him, he is at risk. But risk taking is what makes interesting fights so let's see what happens.

adeelr
04-08-2006, 04:23 PM
Judah would have to come in at the top of his game to win this and Mayweather would have to have slacked off some in the gym or not have 100% focus during the fight. Last night I watched Mayweather's last couple of fights again and his defense is superb. Same with his counterpunching. Judah would have to take it to him to have a chance to KO Mayweather and by taking it to him, he is at risk. But risk taking is what makes interesting fights so let's see what happens.
yes, he is going to have to take risks otherwise we might see another mayweather - Gatti.
And as for mayweather comming in unprepared, not a chance, that man takes this too seriously to get careless like that, even though he is pound 4 pound the best he still seems the hungriest fighter.

abdiel2k3
04-08-2006, 04:26 PM
Ok i guess,
1st weakpoint for mayweather is leaping in with the left hook and judah countering quickly.

what else, or would this be enuff for judah to put mayweather down...
i never said judah had many options
ive said the only way i see zab comin out victorius is with a surprise KO

another way tho
hmmmmm
well floyd likes to lay on the ropes and let fighters punch themselves out as he roles them off
but it usually works cuz most the people he does that with
loop their punches
but notice castillo was able to land his short striat right quite a bit as floyd tryed to roll them off
i think zab has a good chance of landin a strait left their too
cuz hes might be quickenough to throw one b4 floy can roll with it
or just the fact that he throws it so strait gives him a better chance of landing it

MetalVomit
04-08-2006, 04:28 PM
I have no idea, how judah is going to handle Mayweather tonight?
So all the boxing analysts here, could you please post your strategies for Judah to win.


The answer to the question proposed by this thread is simple: Judah won't beat Mayweather.

adeelr
04-08-2006, 04:29 PM
i never said judah had many options
ive said the only way i see zab comin out victorius is with a surprise KO

another way tho
hmmmmm
well floyd likes to lay on the ropes and let fighters punch themselves out as he roles them off
but it usually works cuz most the people he does that with
loop their punches
but notice castillo was able to land his short striat right quite a bit as floyd tryed to roll them off
i think zab has a good chance of landin a strait left their too
cuz hes might be quickenough to throw one b4 floy can roll with it
or just the fact that he throws it so strait gives him a better chance of landing it
I highly doubt that mayweather would lay on the ropes against judah..
he might do it a little but, he wont do it as much as he did it with some of the other guyz.
mayweather will try to keep in the middle of the ring as much or put judah against the ropes..
Anyways if and if he does decide to lay on the ropes, than judah has another chance.

sisforshaq
04-08-2006, 04:30 PM
The answer to the question proposed by this thread is simple: Judah won't beat Mayweather.
Exactly, Its going to be easy work once again for Mayweather. 4 round stoppage.

JuicyJuice
04-08-2006, 04:31 PM
I have no idea, how judah is going to handle Mayweather tonight?
So all the boxing analysts here, could you please post your strategies for Judah to win.
Mayweather is an in-the-pocket fighter, like Toney was.

Now, the way to beat an in-the-pocket fighter is to box on the move and frustrate them. Which is why I believe Chris Eubank would of won probably the first six rounds against Toney, I didn't pick Roy Jones Jr to beat Toney because every time I'd seen Jones Jr fight he liked to stand and trade.. but against Toney he stayed away and won every round.

Judah has good foot speed, if he can use right jabs and move around a lot then he will frustrate Mayweather into eventually making mistakes and if Judah can take advantage of any mistake Mayweather may make looking for Judah then Judah will knock him out or stop him because he has that speed of hand and plenty of pop.

adeelr
04-08-2006, 04:31 PM
Exactly, Its going to be easy work once again for Mayweather. 4 round stoppage.
It wont be easy work.
Mayweather will have to work for this one a little bit.

Smashing
04-08-2006, 04:32 PM
i have noticed..PBF is suseptible if you go straight thru his defence with constant pressure jabbing straight..but he only gets caught once then he is off..

abdiel2k3
04-08-2006, 04:34 PM
I highly doubt that mayweather would lay on the ropes against judah..
he might do it a little but, he wont do it as much as he did it with some of the other guyz.
mayweather will try to keep in the middle of the ring as much or put judah against the ropes..
Anyways if and if he does decide to lay on the ropes, than judah has another chance.
why not?
its somethin floyd does every fight
every fight
hes not gonna come into this fight and just not do it
its part of how he gains control in aifght
he likes to show u he can stand still and u wont hit him
but at the same time
he could lay on the ropes roll AND throw some counter punches
lately hes been alot more aggressive
which i like
so he could expect zab to try to land one on the ropes
time him
and land his own shot
idk
its just so much stuff
i mean both these guys know so much
so much speed
and great power
endless possibilites
could u imagine if these guys just through caution to the wind and go balls out into traden shots
itd look like the matrix
only in the slow mo replay would we be able to truly see what we witnessed

adeelr
04-08-2006, 04:34 PM
Mayweather is an in-the-pocket fighter, like Toney was.

Now, the way to beat an in-the-pocket fighter is to box on the move and frustrate them. Which is why I believe Chris Eubank would of won probably the first six rounds against Toney, I didn't pick Roy Jones Jr to beat Toney because every time I'd seen Jones Jr fight he liked to stand and trade.. but against Toney he stayed away and won every round.

Judah has good foot speed, if he can use right jabs and move around a lot then he will frustrate Mayweather into eventually making mistakes and if Judah can take advantage of any mistake Mayweather may make looking for Judah then Judah will knock him out or stop him because he has that speed of hand and plenty of pop.
how many times have u seen mayweather getting hit by jabs...
judah has speed no doubt, but is he faster that PBF, i doubt that..
I dont understand what u mean by in-pocket fighter, and how do u compare PBF and james toney.

abdiel2k3
04-08-2006, 04:36 PM
how many times have u seen mayweather getting hit by jabs...
judah has speed no doubt, but is he faster that PBF, i doubt that..
I dont understand what u mean by in-pocket fighter, and how do u compare PBF and james toney.
if u dont see the similarities of floyd n toney
then u need to close ur boxingscene account

adeelr
04-08-2006, 04:37 PM
why not?
its somethin floyd does every fight
every fight
hes not gonna come into this fight and just not do it
its part of how he gains control in aifght
he likes to show u he can stand still and u wont hit him
but at the same time
he could lay on the ropes roll AND throw some counter punches
lately hes been alot more aggressive
which i like
so he could expect zab to try to land one on the ropes
time him
and land his own shot
idk
its just so much stuff
i mean both these guys know so much
so much speed
and great power
endless possibilites
could u imagine if these guys just through caution to the wind and go balls out into traden shots
itd look like the matrix
only in the slow mo replay would we be able to truly see what we witnessed
it would be something worth watching if they go balls out.
Even with this happening i cant picture zab judah connecting with shots against PBF.

cold
04-08-2006, 04:39 PM
Judah beats Mayweather if he takes the fight to him in Round 1 like he did too Jaime Rangel & Wayne Martell.

Treat Mayweather like a KO target and get busy backing him up and landing power punches. Neutralize his strengths and take advantage of his sketchy defense. If Mayweather physically can not hurt Judah than he will lose this fight.

Smokin'
04-08-2006, 04:40 PM
The difference between Toney and Floyd is that Toney sits back, doesn't jab and throws counter rights and counter uppercuts. Floyd is an offensive fighter who throws every punch in the book.

adeelr
04-08-2006, 04:40 PM
if u dont see the similarities of floyd n toney
then u need to close ur boxingscene account
The james toney of old might have shown some glimpses of a floyed mayweather, but i dont feel u can compare these two fighters,
floyed mayeather far more superior than james toney.

psychopath
04-08-2006, 04:41 PM
If Zab wants to win he's got to sneak in some solid shots hurt PBF early and continuosly exert pressure. If he doesn't do that then PBF will compile points as rounds pass away.

Zab has a decent power and PBF's chin is untested so ZAB needs to take the risk and go all out for a K.O.

RwK
04-08-2006, 04:42 PM
Judah beats Mayweather if he takes the fight to him in Round 1 like he did too Jaime Rangel & Wayne Martell.

Treat Mayweather like a KO target and get busy backing him up and landing power punches. Neutralize his strengths and take advantage of his sketchy defense. If Mayweather physically can not hurt Judah than he will lose this fight.

Back him up? lol.

Floyd is going to be the one stalking Judah, and Judah's chances are to run away and hope he can land those uppercuts when Floyd is coming in.

There is no way Judah imposes his will on Mayweather.

adeelr
04-08-2006, 04:42 PM
Judah beats Mayweather if he takes the fight to him in Round 1 like he did too Jaime Rangel & Wayne Martell.

Treat Mayweather like a KO target and get busy backing him up and landing power punches. Neutralize his strengths and take advantage of his sketchy defense. If Mayweather physically can not hurt Judah than he will lose this fight.
Judah is going to get hurt very likely in this fight...he will have to come over that someway...

adeelr
04-08-2006, 04:43 PM
If Zab wants to win he's got to sneak in some solid shots hurt PBF early and continuosly exert pressure. If he doesn't do that then PBF will compile points as rounds pass away.

Zab has a decent power and PBF's chin is untested so ZAB needs to take the risk and go all out for a K.O.
judah does have a crazy uppercut....

adeelr
04-08-2006, 04:44 PM
The difference between Toney and Floyd is that Toney sits back, doesn't jab and throws counter rights and counter uppercuts. Floyd is an offensive fighter who throws every punch in the book.
Exactly, floyed mayweather has far more punches in his arsenal that james toney ever did.

Atreyu Khalil
04-08-2006, 04:49 PM
Man everybody is saying Judah this...Judah that....who has Judah Beat? he has never beat a top Pound For Pounder...Judah is a BULLY...when a fighter fights back he tucks his tail and runs....look at all of his losses!!!....People want to say " oh the Zab Judah that fought Corey Spinks is the real Zab".....lmao...he wasnt even winning the fight at the time when he knocked weak ass spinks out......Zab Judah has never dominated any TOP Notch Opposition....I mean for christ sakes he got bullied by Baldomir....lol..all Baldomir did was land 1 straight right hand....let me say it again.........................all Baldomir did was land 1 straight right hand and Judah started doing the infamous "FUNKY JUDAH" dance & was holding on for dear life!!! How in the hell is he gonna deal with PBF?...and to all u Judah fans dont give me that lame excuse of " Oh Zab wasnt focused...BLAH BLAH BLAH" when your a true CHAMP you are ALWAYS focused!!!....Zab is a street thug with decent boxing abilities & no chin!!!!....WAIT...all of a sudden Zab is training harder and is more focused...lol...get the fawk outa here.....yes he is fast...yes he has power...but what proffesional fighter doesnt have POWER?..lol Power means nothing if you cant hit the target! PBF is too SMART for ZAB...is POWER meant everything then Mike Tyson would still be the HEAVYWEIGHT Champ today! PBF has been in the ring with some of the best boxers today and has never tasted the canvas....yes CHOP CHOP caught him with a good shot...but what fighter has never been hurt? Its not about if u get hurt..its can you overcome that and win...Judah throws looping punches like he is in a BAR Fight...he is not precise and accurate at all and that will be his downfall....PBF will be licking his lips at all of the OPEN SHOTS he will be able to land..How I see this fight playing out is 1 of 3 ways.......1) ZAB gets KO'ed......2) Zab's Corner throws in the towel or the Ref stops the fight...& 3) Zab gets disqualified.....because Zab is not honorable when he loses...he blames everyone but himself...he cant take defeat....so rather then get KO'ed in front of EVERYONE he would rather take the easy way out......................PBF KO in less than 7 rounds and Judah will be fighting on ESPN and making guest appearances in future Lil Kim Videos!!!!!!!!!!!!

adeelr
04-08-2006, 04:53 PM
Man everybody is saying Judah this...Judah that....who has Judah Beat? he has never beat a top Pound For Pounder...Judah is a BULLY...when a fighter fights back he tucks his tail and runs....look at all of his losses!!!....People want to say " oh the Zab Judah that fought Corey Spinks is the real Zab".....lmao...he wasnt even winning the fight at the time when he knocked weak ass spinks out......Zab Judah has never dominated any TOP Notch Opposition....I mean for christ sakes he got bullied by Baldomir....lol..all Baldomir did was land 1 straight right hand....let me say it again.........................all Baldomir did was land 1 straight right hand and Judah started doing the infamous "FUNKY JUDAH" dance & was holding on for dear life!!! How in the hell is he gonna deal with PBF?...and to all u Judah fans dont give me that lame excuse of " Oh Zab wasnt focused...BLAH BLAH BLAH" when your a true CHAMP you are ALWAYS focused!!!....Zab is a street thug with decent boxing abilities & no chin!!!!....WAIT...all of a sudden Zab is training harder and is more focused...lol...get the fawk outa here.....yes he is fast...yes he has power...but what proffesional fighter doesnt have POWER?..lol Power means nothing if you cant hit the target! PBF is too SMART for ZAB...is POWER meant everything then Mike Tyson would still be the HEAVYWEIGHT Champ today! PBF has been in the ring with some of the best boxers today and has never tasted the canvas....yes CHOP CHOP caught him with a good shot...but what fighter has never been hurt? Its not about if u get hurt..its can you overcome that and win...Judah throws looping punches like he is in a BAR Fight...he is not precise and accurate at all and that will be his downfall....PBF will be licking his lips at all of the OPEN SHOTS he will be able to land..How I see this fight playing out is 1 of 3 ways.......1) ZAB gets KO'ed......2) Zab's Corner throws in the towel or the Ref stops the fight...& 3) Zab gets disqualified.....because Zab is not honorable when he loses...he blames everyone but himself...he cant take defeat....so rather then get KO'ed in front of EVERYONE he would rather take the easy way out......................PBF KO in less than 7 rounds and Judah will be fighting on ESPN and making guest appearances in future Lil Kim Videos!!!!!!!!!!!!
ok, that was good for 1st post

7001
04-08-2006, 05:18 PM
The only way for Judah to beat Mayweather is to bring a gun with him and shoot him with it.

drez24
04-08-2006, 05:48 PM
Here is how Judah wins tonight:

"A congenital heart defect has failed Mayweather moments before he could step into the ring."

Smokin'
04-08-2006, 05:50 PM
If you really think about it, it's not as big of an upset to beat Mayweather as many might think. Sharmba did very well against him considering he was out of his prime, old, etc and he did win a round against Mayweather and the stoppage was premature.

I think Judah will tag Mayweather at least once with a straight left before he gets 1 punch KOed lol

JuicyJuice
04-08-2006, 08:53 PM
Mayweather is an in-the-pocket fighter, like Toney was.

Now, the way to beat an in-the-pocket fighter is to box on the move and frustrate them. Which is why I believe Chris Eubank would of won probably the first six rounds against Toney, I didn't pick Roy Jones Jr to beat Toney because every time I'd seen Jones Jr fight he liked to stand and trade.. but against Toney he stayed away and won every round.

Judah has good foot speed, if he can use right jabs and move around a lot then he will frustrate Mayweather into eventually making mistakes and if Judah can take advantage of any mistake Mayweather may make looking for Judah then Judah will knock him out or stop him because he has that speed of hand and plenty of pop.
Bumpster ;)

abdiel2k3
04-09-2006, 12:27 AM
the comparison between james toney and floyd mayweather is simply and only about their defense
how they roll with punches
how they bring the right hand up to block the right side of the face
the left shoulder to block the left side of the face
and the left arm across the body to protect their body
two of the best defensive fighters around today
and they share theyre defense style