View Full Version : My actual top ten HW list.


Kid Achilles
04-06-2006, 12:14 AM
1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Larry Holmes
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Jack Dempsey
6. Joe Frazier
7. Sonny Liston
8. George Foreman
9. Jim Jeffries
10. Ezzard Charles

The bottom five tend to change pretty frequently for me.

My criteria is something like 75% career achievement and 25% head to head matchups with all fighters being in their prime. Keep in mind, for example, that I'm not saying Frazier would have beaten Liston, Foreman, Jeffries, and Charles for sure, just that on his best night he would have presented a greater challenge to most (non champion) heavyweights in history then the men below him.

Da Iceman
04-06-2006, 12:35 AM
mines something like that. you and me are the only people with louis as #1

SuzieQ49
04-06-2006, 12:40 AM
1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Larry Holmes
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Jack Dempsey
6. Joe Frazier
7. Sonny Liston
8. George Foreman
9. Jim Jeffries
10. Ezzard Charles

The bottom five tend to change pretty frequently for me.

My criteria is something like 75% career achievement and 25% head to head matchups with all fighters being in their prime. Keep in mind, for example, that I'm not saying Frazier would have beaten Liston, Foreman, Jeffries, and Charles for sure, just that on his best night he would have presented a greater challenge to most (non champion) heavyweights in history then the men below him.



great minds think alike, we both share the same top 5!

SuzieQ49
04-06-2006, 12:40 AM
i also rate joe louis # 1

SuzieQ49
04-06-2006, 12:41 AM
kid achilles, why ezzard charles over sam langford?

Da Iceman
04-06-2006, 12:44 AM
cause ezzard can whoop ass.

Kid Achilles
04-06-2006, 12:47 AM
Only because I haven't seen Langford on film. This is my fault, as it's there to be seen, and I'd like to remedy that some day.

Even Jeffries I've seen footage of (albeit limited footage and not entire fights) but of Langford not even a ten second clip.

Everything I read about the guy I like though. The fact that he could beat a big, powerful, and skilled HW like Wills says so much about him. He seemed to have it all: defensive skill, combination punching to the head and body, speed of hand, two fisted KO power, durability, stamina, strength, and a great heart. All on a short, long armed, bull necked body.

I just need to see some of his fights.

SuzieQ49
04-06-2006, 01:15 AM
i just ordered langford-flynn and langford-lang. when they arrive, i will try to upload it


i orderd a long list of fights including

satterfield-elkins brothers
satterfield-baker
satterfield-valdes
valdes-jim parker
valdes-hurricane jackson
archie moore- 6'3 212lb james j parker
SAM MCVEY-JIM JOHNSON
sugar ray robinson-sammy angott PRIME ROBINSON
sugar ray robinson-willie pep amatuers
kid mccoy- james corbett
dempsey-brennan
WALCOTT- HEIN TEN HOFF

and lots more

Kid Achilles
04-06-2006, 01:28 AM
satterfield-elkins brothers
satterfield-baker
satterfield-valdes
valdes-jim parker
valdes-hurricane jackson
archie moore- 6'3 212lb james j parker
SAM MCVEY-JIM JOHNSON
sugar ray robinson-sammy angott PRIME ROBINSON
sugar ray robinson-willie pep amatuers
kid mccoy- james corbett
dempsey-brennan
WALCOTT- HEIN TEN HOFF

Holy crap! Where did you order those fights? I really want to see all of them but the ones highlighted are the ones I have particular interest in. I'm going to have to just start buying these fights. That and get ESPN classic (once I get back home) so I can see more of these pre-1960 fights.

Da Iceman
04-06-2006, 02:09 AM
where'd you get the langford fights at?

Dempsey1238
04-06-2006, 08:38 AM
i just ordered langford-flynn and langford-lang. when they arrive, i will try to upload it


i orderd a long list of fights including

satterfield-elkins brothers
satterfield-baker
satterfield-valdes
valdes-jim parker
valdes-hurricane jackson
archie moore- 6'3 212lb james j parker
SAM MCVEY-JIM JOHNSON
sugar ray robinson-sammy angott PRIME ROBINSON
sugar ray robinson-willie pep amatuers
kid mccoy- james corbett
dempsey-brennan
WALCOTT- HEIN TEN HOFF

and lots more

The 5 rounds of Dempsey Brennan is not rare. Now if you find it complete. Thats something else.

I getting Johnson Fireman, Jeffies Rulhan the 15 min fight, and TKO knockout and a few others.

Da Iceman
04-06-2006, 08:43 AM
The 5 rounds of Dempsey Brennan is not rare. Now if you find it complete. Thats something else.

I getting Johnson Fireman, Jeffies Rulhan the 15 min fight, and TKO knockout and a few others.
dont bother with johnson and fireman it was really lacklust and it came on espn classic about 2 months back.

RockyMarcianofan00
04-06-2006, 04:27 PM
1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Larry Holmes
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Jack Dempsey
6. Joe Frazier
7. Sonny Liston
8. George Foreman
9. Jim Jeffries
10. Ezzard Charles

The bottom five tend to change pretty frequently for me.

My criteria is something like 75% career achievement and 25% head to head matchups with all fighters being in their prime. Keep in mind, for example, that I'm not saying Frazier would have beaten Liston, Foreman, Jeffries, and Charles for sure, just that on his best night he would have presented a greater challenge to most (non champion) heavyweights in history then the men below him.

i have for the most part the same top 5(top 10 greatest fighters not favorites)

1)Joe Louis
2)Muhammad Ali
3)Rocky Marciano
4)Jack Dempsey
5)Larry Holmes

Dempsey1238
04-06-2006, 09:45 PM
Espn never shows Johnson's fights complete.

This guy has it complete. Thats why I getting it.

leff
04-07-2006, 07:58 PM
1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Larry Holmes
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Jack Dempsey
6. Joe Frazier
7. Sonny Liston
8. George Foreman
9. Jim Jeffries
10. Ezzard Charles

The bottom five tend to change pretty frequently for me.

My criteria is something like 75% career achievement and 25% head to head matchups with all fighters being in their prime. Keep in mind, for example, that I'm not saying Frazier would have beaten Liston, Foreman, Jeffries, and Charles for sure, just that on his best night he would have presented a greater challenge to most (non champion) heavyweights in history then the men below him.


nice list, mine is kinda like

louis
ali
marciano
dempsey
foreman
liston
frazier
holmes
lewis
holy

i rate head to head a bit higher than you