Who In Your Opinion is the Hardest Hitter in each Division??? [Archive]

Superman RJJ

04-04-2006, 05:29 AM

Who in your Opinion is the hardest hitter in Each Division here`s mine:

Heavyweight: Lemon Brewster
Cruiserweight: O Niel Bell
Light Heavyweight: Zsolt Erdei
Super Middleweight: Jeff Lacy (Even Tho Joe Beat his a$$)
Middleweight: Edison Miranda
Super Welterweight: Marco A Rubio
Welterweight: Antonio Margarito
Super Lightweight: Kostya Tszyu
Lightweight: Acelino Fritas
Super Featherweight: Manny Pacquiao
Featherweight: Joan Guzman
Super Bantamweight: Isreal Vasquez
Bantamweight: Rafael Marquez
Super Flyweight: Jose Navarro
Flyweight: Lorenzo Parra
Junior Flyweight: Brian Viloria
Strawweight: Radai Mayol

Zab Super Judah

04-04-2006, 06:53 AM

AIR_KENG

04-04-2006, 07:55 AM

spinksjinx

04-04-2006, 09:06 AM

Heavyweight: Chris Byrd
Cruiserweight: O Niel Bell-Guillermo Jones is a runner up.
Light Heavyweight: Antonio Tarver
Super Middleweight: Joe Calzaghe
Middleweight: Jermain Taylor
Super Welterweight: Ike Quartey
Welterweight: Antonio Margarito
Super Lightweight: Kostya Tszyu
Lightweight: Acelino Freitas-I am going to have to agree with this one as my pick as well.
Super Featherweight: Manny Pacquiao
Featherweight: Joan Guzman
Super Bantamweight: Isreal Vasquez
Bantamweight: Rafael Marquez
Super Flyweight: Jose Navarro
Flyweight:Jorge Arce
Junior Flyweight: Brian Viloria
Strawweight: Ivan Calderon

abdiel2k3

04-04-2006, 09:11 AM

spinksjinx

04-04-2006, 09:14 AM

:eek:
u feelin ok jinx?

Yeah I am ok a little sarcasm never hurt anybody :D

DiegoFuego

04-04-2006, 09:47 AM

Heavyweight: Wladimir Klitschko
Cruiserweight: O'Neil Bell
Light Heavyweight: Antonio Tarver
Super Middleweight: Jeff Lacy
Middleweight: Jermain Taylor
Super Welterweight: Fernando Vargas
Welterweight: Zab Judah
Super Lightweight: Ricky Hatton
Lightweight: Diego Corrales
Super Featherweight: Manny Pacquiao

Who ****ing cares.......

Featherweight:
Super Bantamweight:
Bantamweight:
Super Flyweight:
Flyweight: Lorenzo
Junior Flyweight:
Strawweight:

spinksjinx

04-04-2006, 09:53 AM

DiegoFuego

04-04-2006, 09:55 AM

Ha thats laughable you say who cares where the most excitement is but you name the hardest hitting heavyweight when none of them are knocking anyone out...Why not just say I dont know?

you're a Spinks fan. have you ever even seen a knockout? oh wait, St. Louis, February 5 :D

spinksjinx

04-04-2006, 09:58 AM

you're a Spinks fan. have you ever even seen a knockout? oh wait, St. Louis, February 5 :D

I give constructed criticism you seriously think I take up for Spinks all of the time and ride him like a fanboy hardly not. Spinks a good boxer with great footwork and no power...Zab did quite the number on him in St. Louis...We havent seen him in action for no reason....

I love technical fighters not brawlers.

gandhalf

04-04-2006, 10:01 AM

spinksjinx

04-04-2006, 10:05 AM

as far as the hw division is concerned..Well, Brewster is up there but imo the most powerful one right now is still Samuel Peter, Wlad klitschko isn't that bad either but Samuel takes the cake.

(of all time = David Tua , Shavers & Foreman.)

Samuel Peter fights low opposition he couldnt knock out Wladimir I dont rate him as a hard hitter...Should we rate Shannon Briggs high then? Not hating but seriously any heavyweight can look good fighting C level fighters. The verdict is still out on Peter though

DiegoFuego

04-04-2006, 10:14 AM

Samuel Peter fights low opposition he couldnt knock out Wladimir I dont rate him as a hard hitter...Should we rate Shannon Briggs high then? Not hating but seriously any heavyweight can look good fighting C level fighters. The verdict is still out on Peter though

no joke. until Peter knocks out somebody we've heard of, he can't be taken seriously

Shanus

04-04-2006, 10:14 AM

eazy_mas

04-04-2006, 10:27 AM

no joke. until Peter knocks out somebody we've heard of, he can't be taken seriously

That is the problem with somepeople you have to always take all your oppenet seriously or you end up like Zab Judah.

And would any boxer wanna take the chin out to take there chances for unheard or beigner person to test there power. Mayorga did it with Trinidad and cost him the fight.

Alway take everybody seriously! :eek:

Strongest puncher in the WelterWieght is not Margarito but Centron. I seen the Match up. But the disadvatage of Centron over Margarito is that Margarito could produce combaniton up and down. I am not saying Margarito is weak but he is the 2nd strongest IMO

DiegoFuego

04-04-2006, 11:15 AM

Mayorga probably would have made it to the final bell if he hadn't let Trinidad hit him flush twice. That was ****in crazy.

Dude

04-04-2006, 11:40 AM

Tyson was obviously the hardest hitter.

Tyson never even floored a world class fighter who came to fight him in good shape.

He surely mzst have hit hard enough to knock out all these b and c class opponents though. However most of his KOs were more a product of his speed and accuracy.

Tysons hitting power is the most overrated thing in boxing history.

Dude

04-04-2006, 11:44 AM

Samuel Peter fights low opposition he couldnt knock out Wladimir I dont rate him as a hard hitter...Should we rate Shannon Briggs high then? Not hating but seriously any heavyweight can look good fighting C level fighters. The verdict is still out on Peter though

You can show hitting power against lesser opponent. However you can't testify that you can use it in a more competitive situation,

spinksjinx

04-04-2006, 12:42 PM

You can show hitting power against lesser opponent. However you can't testify that you can use it in a more competitive situation,

Thats not necessarily true. The lower quality guys with 10 losses and a lot of them by KO cant make you justified as a heavy hitter. However, I do believe Peters power is questionable considering he fought one of the top 5 heavies out their who also has the worst chin and couldnt take him out. Their is no doubt that Peter probably packs a heavy punch hell any man over 200+ can punch like a bull to some extent. But thats all Peter clearly has is his little bit of power and hardly any skill. If you cant take out Wladimir who has a glass chin and you are considered by many to be this great KO artist since Tyson than clearly you do not stand up to your moniker. Peter is clearly a poor mans Tyson with decent promotion.

RwK

04-04-2006, 01:29 PM

Ha thats laughable you say who cares where the most excitement is but you name the hardest hitting heavyweight when none of them are knocking anyone out...Why not just say I dont know?

Wlad probably is the hardest hitting heavyweight right now.

RwK

04-04-2006, 01:39 PM

Heavyweight: Samuel Peter
Cruiserweight: David Haye
Light Heavyweight: Paul Briggs
Super Middleweight: Jeff Lacy
Middleweight: Teddy Reid
Super Welterweight: Marco A Rubio
Welterweight: Antonio Margarito
Super Lightweight: Kostya Tszyu
Lightweight: Diego Corrales
Super Featherweight: Manny Pacquiao
Featherweight: Jorge Barrios
Super Bantamweight: Isreal Vasquez
Bantamweight: Rafael Marquez
Super Flyweight: Fernando Montiel
Flyweight: Jorge Arce
Junior Flyweight: Brian Viloria
Strawweight: Daniel Reyes

Parody

04-04-2006, 02:26 PM

Heavyweight: Samuel Peter
Cruiserweight: David Haye
Light Heavyweight: Chad Dawson
Super Middleweight: Jeff Lacy
Middleweight: Arthur Abraham
Super Welterweight: Marco A Rubio
Welterweight: Floyd Mayweather
Super Lightweight: Ricky Hatton
Lightweight: Diego Corrales
Super Featherweight: Manny Pacquiao
Featherweight: Joan Guzman
Super Bantamweight: Isreal Vasquez
Bantamweight: Jhonny Gonzalez
Super Flyweight: Gerry Penalosa
Flyweight: Vic Darchinyan
Junior Flyweight: Roberto Vasquez
Strawweight: Rodel Mayol

spinksjinx

04-04-2006, 04:46 PM

Wlad probably is the hardest hitting heavyweight right now.

Who's he knocking out? Seriously Wlad has boxing skills I wouldnt say he is the hardest puncher...Hell none of them really are they will knock out B/C level fighters but cant knock out a top 10 guy for the life of them and the only one to do so was Lamon...

I dont doubt Wlad hits hard but none of them seem to punch spectacular so any guess is as good as anyone elses you know?

Derranged

04-04-2006, 06:46 PM

beez721

04-04-2006, 06:58 PM

flipside

04-04-2006, 07:16 PM

Who in your Opinion is the hardest hitter in Each Division here`s mine:

Heavyweight: Lemon Brewster
Cruiserweight: O Niel Bell
Light Heavyweight: Zsolt Erdei
Super Middleweight: Jeff Lacy (Even Tho Joe Beat his a$$)
Middleweight: Edison Miranda
Super Welterweight: Marco A Rubio
Welterweight: Antonio margarito
Super Lightweight: Kostya Tszyu
Lightweight: Acelino Fritas
Super Featherweight: Manny Pacquiao
Featherweight: Joan Guzman
Super Bantamweight: Isreal Vasquez
Bantamweight: Rafael Marquez
Super Flyweight: Jose Navarro
Flyweight: Lorenzo Parra
Junior Flyweight: Brian Viloria
Strawweight: Radai Mayol

Welterweight: zab judah
lightweight: diego corrales
bantamweight(soon): rey "boom boom" bautista

NAB

04-04-2006, 07:23 PM

I think we can consider Tszyu pretty much retired, people...

He always has at least a 3 month preparation, is 37 in a few months, and doesn't appear to have any fights on the horizon...

flipside

04-04-2006, 07:28 PM

I think we can consider Tszyu pretty much retired, people...

He always has at least a 3 month preparation, is 37 in a few months, and doesn't appear to have any fights on the horizon...

i was thinking the same thing, he sint fight for a long time he's retired by default

Googler

04-04-2006, 07:29 PM

Heavyweight: Nikolay Valuev
Super Middleweight: Jeff Lacy (Till last fight)
Middleweight: Arthur Abraham
Light Welterweight: Ricky Hatton
Flyweight: Vic Darchinyan

IwatchBoxing

04-04-2006, 07:30 PM

Heavyweight: Samuel Peter
Middleweight: Edison Miranda (might be seeing things, but Trinidads ranked #3 under WBA still?)
Welterweight: Joel Julio/Carlos Quintana?
Super Lightweight: Ricky Hatton
Lightweight: Luis Castillo
Super Featherweight: Manny Pacquiao
Featherweight: Joan Guzman?
Junior Flyweight: Brian Viloria
Strawweight: Radai Mayol

borikua

04-04-2006, 08:12 PM

Heavyweight - Samuel Peter
Middleweight - Miranda
Welterweight - Joel Julio
Jr Welter - Ricardo Torres
Lightweight - Corrales
Super Feather - Pac

Easy-E

04-04-2006, 08:29 PM

Easy-E

04-04-2006, 08:39 PM

RwK

04-04-2006, 08:49 PM

id take bell over haye and miranda over reid, but other than that, your list is spot on

I don't know man.

Teddy Reid is an absolute monster when it comes to punching power. That's been his staple as a fighter his entire career.

Haye has won all his fights by knockout, all 16. He's a fruit but he takes punching to a whole new level.

Easy-E

04-04-2006, 09:21 PM

I don't know man.

Teddy Reid is an absolute monster when it comes to punching power. That's been his staple as a fighter his entire career.

Haye has won all his fights by knockout, all 16. He's a fruit but he takes punching to a whole new level.

reid is old now, and when i watched the candelo fight, it seemed like he didnt have as much power in my eyes.
bell ko'd mcormack, which i thought was almost impossible.

you have good choices, and i understand them, but i just had different guys in those spots

Googler

04-04-2006, 09:22 PM

lol who put Lorenzo Parra for flyweight? looollll This guy hasnt knocked anyone out since 2003. How can he even be mentioned in this forum? For Jorge Arce, lets see if he can prove himself against Vic Darchinyan before we talk since Vic's a brawler who just throws nonstop bombs.

opethdrums

04-04-2006, 09:43 PM

i bet tyson right now hits harder than brewster

mr. bojangles

04-04-2006, 10:23 PM

hardest hitter in Each Division, here`s mine:

Heavyweight: Samuel Peter
Cruiserweight: O'Neil Bell
Light Heavyweight: Zsolt Erdei
Super Middleweight: Mikkel Kessler
Middleweight: Arthur Abrahan
Super Welterweight: Kofi Jantuah
Welterweight: Antonio Margarito
Super Lightweight: Miguel Cotto
Lightweight: Jose Luis Castillo
Super Featherweight: Manny Pacquiao
Featherweight: (none at the moment)
Super Bantamweight: Israel Vasquez
Bantamweight: Rafael Marquez
Super Flyweight: Alexander Munoz
Flyweight: Vic Darchinyan
Junior Flyweight: Brian Viloria
Strawweight: Rodel Mayol

Dempsey 1919

04-04-2006, 11:08 PM

vote in this thread!

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68261

Dude

04-05-2006, 11:00 AM

Thats not necessarily true. The lower quality guys with 10 losses and a lot of them by KO cant make you justified as a heavy hitter. However, I do believe Peters power is questionable considering he fought one of the top 5 heavies out their who also has the worst chin and couldnt take him out. Their is no doubt that Peter probably packs a heavy punch hell any man over 200+ can punch like a bull to some extent. But thats all Peter clearly has is his little bit of power and hardly any skill. If you cant take out Wladimir who has a glass chin and you are considered by many to be this great KO artist since Tyson than clearly you do not stand up to your moniker. Peter is clearly a poor mans Tyson with decent promotion.

The main difference between Wladimir and b/c class hw is not the chin but their abilities to avoid getting hit clean. Would Peter have been able to catch Wladimir with the same frequency and the same relative ease he catches his lesser opponents he would have knocked him out.

Everytime he hit Wladimir with sth. of relevance the big Ukrainian was stunned or went to the canvas.

A good punch alone just doesn't make you a great fighter. Mainly because you have to have the skills to deliever this punch against opponents that can box and have defense. That's where Peter has problems.