View Full Version : WBO... world title?


paulkimlax
03-31-2006, 04:20 AM
does anyone here think WBO is a REAL WORLD TITLE?

just a simple Q.

JOM'S
03-31-2006, 04:41 AM
WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO???

IMHO they should be all scraped or unified as one ... 2 World Titles was ridiculous ... Three was totally wrong ..... Four is Crazy ...

MickyHatton
03-31-2006, 04:46 AM
Too many great fighters hold or have held this belt these days therefore we must consider it as a major belt.

MickyHatton
03-31-2006, 04:56 AM
Not sure how they work out their rankings though?

No Hatton in top 15 at Light Welter, no Mayweather in top 15 at Welter etc etc etc

JuicyJuice
03-31-2006, 04:56 AM
What a strange question. Ofcourse it's a 'real world title'.

medium-deek
03-31-2006, 05:07 AM
does anyone here think WBO is a REAL WORLD TITLE?

just a simple Q.

Well if you had any doubts about the title (Herbie Hide springs to mind) forget it. Calzaghe should have erased any doubts about the WBO.

eazy_mas
03-31-2006, 05:35 AM
WBO holder of the welter wieght Margrito is a very strong guy. As well as Deigo Corrales and others

So I think if I say no I disrepect the holders of the belts who work hard for it.

Southpaw Stinger
03-31-2006, 06:29 AM
IMHO they should be all scraped or unified as one ... 2 World Titles was ridiculous ... Three was totally wrong ..... Four is Crazy ...

I very much agree. What happend to the old 15 round battles for the 1 heavyweight title of the world? Now we have 12 round clinch fests for 1 of four world titles.

heatseeker
03-31-2006, 07:45 AM
does anyone here think WBO is a REAL WORLD TITLE?

just a simple Q.
Yes I do b/c some real great champions have had WBO belts. Joe Calzagi and Prince and Bowe and Oscar and now Cotto. They are all great champions. However I agree with Frank Bruno. The WBC the the Creme dela Creme of them all.

moochi
03-31-2006, 08:53 AM
Yes I do b/c some real great champions have had WBO belts. Joe Calzagi and Prince and Bowe and Oscar and now Cotto. They are all great champions. However I agree with Frank Bruno. The WBC the the Creme dela Creme of them all.
usually it is not considered a belt at all...however, lately the americans have started to recognise it whenever an american or latino fighter has it!

answer: not a real belt!

THE REAL NINJA
03-31-2006, 09:48 AM
i think the WBO should be respected more then it has been in the past ... atleast from what i've seen most of the deserving fighters get a shot some time or another unlike the other federations that are more about politics and money ***of course I could be completely wrong about that.... ;) have to ask an inside source ***

Talking Turkey
03-31-2006, 10:10 AM
Well if you had any doubts about the title (Herbie Hide springs to mind) forget it. Calzaghe should have erased any doubts about the WBO.Herbie Hide was a talented boxer man.

Soldier01
03-31-2006, 10:13 AM
WBO holder of the welter wieght Margrito is a very strong guy. As well as Deigo Corrales and others

So I think if I say no I disrepect the holders of the belts who work hard for it.

Good point.

RAESAAD
03-31-2006, 10:18 AM
Well it is a major belt and major sanctioning body along with WBC,IBF and WBA but I think the whole system is in shambles and corrupt.I tend to agree with The Ring belt holders more so than any of these but they are not perfect either.

scap
03-31-2006, 11:39 AM
In this day an age folks it is as simple as this...

THE BELT DOES NOT LEGITIMIZE THE MOTHER****ING FIGHTER...QUITE THE OPPOSITE...THE MOTHER****ING FIGHTER LEGITIMIZES THE BELT.

EXAMPLE: If 4 different fighters at Junior Welterweight had the IBF, WBC, WBA and WBO....and then there was Ricky Hatton who held the NABF...in this situation the NABF would be the most credible belt.

The fighter makes the belt not the other way around...cmon guys in these trying times of ****head alphabet belts...dont loose your focus, ****!

RAESAAD
03-31-2006, 11:41 AM
In this day an age folks it is as simple as this...

THE BELT DOES NOT LEGITIMIZE THE MOTHER****ING FIGHTER...QUITE THE OPPOSITE...THE MOTHER****ING FIGHTER LEGITIMIZES THE BELT.

EXAMPLE: If 4 different fighters at Junior Welterweight had the IBF, WBC, WBA and WBO....and then there was Ricky Hatton who held the NABF...in this situation the NABF would be the most credible belt.

The fighter makes the belt not the other way around...cmon guys in these trying times of ****head alphabet belts...dont loose your focus, ****!
Always the voice of reason......... :headbang:

Talking Turkey
03-31-2006, 11:53 AM
[QUOTE=scap]In this day an age folks it is as simple as this...

THE BELT DOES NOT LEGITIMIZE THE MOTHER****ING FIGHTER...QUITE THE OPPOSITE...THE MOTHER****ING FIGHTER LEGITIMIZES THE BELT.

QUOTE]
What makes me sick is the fact that it's only because they're American fighters, if it was british/euro fighters you wouldn't be saying that.

RAESAAD
03-31-2006, 11:57 AM
[QUOTE=scap]In this day an age folks it is as simple as this...

THE BELT DOES NOT LEGITIMIZE THE MOTHER****ING FIGHTER...QUITE THE OPPOSITE...THE MOTHER****ING FIGHTER LEGITIMIZES THE BELT.

QUOTE]
What makes me sick is the fact that it's only because they're American fighters, if it was british/euro fighters you wouldn't be saying that.
He used Hatton as an example....... :rolleyes:

scap
03-31-2006, 12:03 PM
He used Hatton as an example....... :rolleyes:


Thank you Raesaad!

****, Turkey what Im saying is Ricky could have a card board belt made in your garage and currently if that was the only body that recognized him as the junior welterwegith champ then that would be the only belt at the time that was worth a ****.

Dont be so sensitive...not all yanks are out to discredit your guys...settle down son.

Turkey I dont have all the time in the world to spell **** out for you all the time...you are gonna have to start picking some of this stuff up otherwise Im gonna have to let you go...you got that boy?

Talking Turkey
03-31-2006, 12:10 PM
I'm not talking about you personally scap, but theres many many bigoted guys out there, who are either blinded by their own fighters or just plain haters.

FeelTheA-Force
03-31-2006, 12:23 PM
WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO???

IMHO they should be all scraped or unified as one ... 2 World Titles was ridiculous ... Three was totally wrong ..... Four is Crazy ...

lennox held the IBO title.

lets have 5 titles to be unified. LOL LOL LOL

scap
03-31-2006, 12:26 PM
I'm not talking about you personally scap, but theres many many bigoted guys out there, who are either blinded by their own fighters or just plain haters.


Turkey your homework from your uncle scap is this...I would like you to work on being clearer with what you say...lets see if we can cut out some of the miscommunications...aight?

Shanus
03-31-2006, 01:54 PM
WBC and IBF are definately the most credible titles IMHO, shortly followed by the WBA and WBO.

FeelTheA-Force
03-31-2006, 02:14 PM
WBC and IBF are definately the most credible titles IMHO, shortly followed by the WBA and WBO.

first was the WBC, then WBA, then IBF. so how can you put the WBC and IBF together????

Southpaw Stinger
03-31-2006, 02:16 PM
first was the WBC, then WBA, then IBF. so how can you put the WBC and IBF together????

Wasn't WBA first?

FeelTheA-Force
03-31-2006, 02:25 PM
Wasn't WBA first?

dunno. sum1 better have a check on wikipedia

DiegoFuego
03-31-2006, 02:28 PM
I look at it like this: Brewster holds it, Cotto holds it, and Calzaghe holds it. It is as legitimate as any of the others.

FeelTheA-Force
03-31-2006, 02:31 PM
I look at it like this: Brewster holds it, Cotto holds it, and Calzaghe holds it. It is as legitimate as any of the others.

yeh man. there like the undisputed in there divisions.
or soon to be undisputed

RwK
03-31-2006, 02:32 PM
yeh man. there like the undisputed in there divisions.
or soon to be undisputed

Be quiet nut sack.

FeelTheA-Force
03-31-2006, 02:34 PM
Be quiet nut sack.

kiss asian_sensation's ass

RwK
03-31-2006, 02:35 PM
kiss asian_sensation's ass

That guys even a bigger douche than you are...and that's something that's really hard to accomplish. 10 on a scale of difficulty as a matter of fact.

Googler
03-31-2006, 02:47 PM
WBA was the first and original sanctioning body of professional boxing. WBC wac created in 1963 by 12 countries from the invitation of the President of the Mexican Republic. On the other hand the IBF was created when Bob Lee split up from the original sanctioning body WBA and created his own the IBF. It was preceded by the USBA.


WBA - 1921
WBC - 1963
IBF - 1983
WBO - 1988
IBO - 1993

What I like about the WBA is that it has Super Champs. If you hold the WBA belt with another recognized belt, then you are a Super Champ. This is kind of cool.

FeelTheA-Force
03-31-2006, 02:55 PM
WBA was the first and original sanctioning body of professional boxing. WBC wac created in 1963 by 12 countries from the invitation of the President of the Mexican Republic. On the other hand the IBF was created when Bob Lee split up from the original sanctioning body WBA and created his own the IBF. It was preceded by the USBA.


WBA - 1921
WBC - 1963
IBF - 1983
WBO - 1988
IBO - 1993

What I like about the WBA is that it has Super Champs. If you hold the WBA belt with another recognized belt, then you are a Super Champ. This is kind of cool.

i find a 2 tier system bull****.

have one champ and one belt.

if they wanna bull**** with all these sanctioning bodies. then have prem league , div 1, div1. etc etc

keystone30pack
03-31-2006, 02:56 PM
I very much agree. What happend to the old 15 round battles for the 1 heavyweight title of the world? Now we have 12 round clinch fests for 1 of four world titles.


15 rounds of accumulated punching= bad for brain

The_One77
03-31-2006, 03:10 PM
don't matter which major title they have, the fighter makes the belt not the other way round.

GunStar
03-31-2006, 04:10 PM
A big NO. WBO was never considered a real title. I think 3 is enough.

WBC, WBA & IBF are the real world title, we don't need anymore, man in a few years then we can also add IBO, this thing is becoming a joke.