View Full Version : Should Wlad Switch Styles?


Neuraxis
10-03-2004, 06:10 PM
Should Wladimir Klitschko switch back to his European fighting style? I was saying he should after how awkward he looked at times against a very bad Brewster. Wlad looked much better in his two previous fights against Danell Nicholson and Fabio Moli. I'm not talking about the fight outcomes, I am talking about how fluid and coordinated he was with his hands and feet. Though its hard to tell much from the Moli fight because Moli went down so quickly. The Nicholson fight was another story though. I'd put big money on Nicholson to beat Brewster. He is a solid B level fighter who has only lost to A level fighters like Golota, Kirk Johnson, Tua, and Jeremy Williams who was undefeated when he beat Nicholson and Nicholson was also young at the time. Nicholson also beat John Ruiz. Nicholson put some pressure on Wlad during the fight, and Wlad didn't look awkard like he did in the Brewster and Williamson fights. He just doesn't look comfortable with this new style at all.

Sir_Jose
10-03-2004, 06:15 PM
Wlad's style has always pretty much been the same. He's just fighting scared now and its obvious.

Vitali fights in the European "stand up" style.


Style aint Wlad's problem.

Neuraxis
10-03-2004, 06:16 PM
Wlad's style has always pretty much been the same. He's just fighting scared now and its obvious.

Vitali fights in the European "stand up" style.


Style aint Wlad's problem.

You obviously don't know what you are talking about if you are saying that is style is the same.

NichtGeflechten
10-03-2004, 06:18 PM
Jose's last name is Cuervo 'nuff said.

Sir_Jose
10-03-2004, 06:19 PM
You obviously don't know what you are talking about if you are saying that is style is the same.


yeah im the one who doesn't know what he's talking about*rolleyes*

tell me about the "fluid combinations" that come from fighters who fight in the European style again.

The only thing that has changed about Wlad is that he is now fighting scared and is doubting himself.

Neuraxis
10-03-2004, 06:20 PM
yeah im the one who doesn't know what he's talking about*rolleyes*

tell me about the "fluid combinations" that come from fighters who fight in the European style again.

The only thing that has changed about Wlad is that he is now fighting scared and is doubting himself.

Ok I am going to PM you 2 fights. You obviously aren't very familar with Wlad.

Sir_Jose
10-03-2004, 06:22 PM
Ok I am going to PM you 2 fights. You obviously aren't very familar with Wlad.


please describe the European style for me?

cause Wlad never fought in it.

mic573
10-03-2004, 06:22 PM
Wlad is fighting very cautious now and anyone should be able to see that. He is scared to get hit and it is showing.

Neuraxis
10-03-2004, 06:24 PM
please describe the European style for me?

cause Wlad never fought in it.

Well for starters he would measure with his left arm.

Sir_Jose
10-03-2004, 06:32 PM
Well for starters he would measure with his left arm.


The European style is fighting off your BACK FOOT with your arms out in front of you and keeping your upper body straight and moving it back and side to side to avoid punches. Its a very stiff style. Its very awkward.

Vitali fights in this style.

Wlad has always fought in a fluid style thowring combos. He NEVER fought in the "European style"

Its not his style, its not his trainer, Its his HEAD. He's doubting himself and fighting scared.

Neuraxis
10-03-2004, 06:35 PM
The European style is fighting off your BACK FOOT with your arms out in front of you and keeping your upper body straight and moving it back and side to side to avoid punches. Its a very stiff style. Its very awkward.

Vitali fights in this style.

Wlad has always fought in a fluid style thowring combos. He NEVER fought in the "European style"

Its not his style, its not his trainer, Its his HEAD. He's doubting himself and fighting scared.

Regardless he is not fighting in the same style before Brewster that he has in last two fights. Wlad did use to move side to side a lot more, and I guess this means that you didn't watch the fights.

Sir_Jose
10-03-2004, 06:39 PM
Regardless he is not fighting in the same style before Brewster that he has in last two fights. Wlad did use to move side to side a lot more, and I guess this means that you didn't watch the fights.


pay attention

It's...in...his....head

Neuraxis
10-03-2004, 06:45 PM
pay attention

It's...in...his....head

That may be part of it, but you are completely ignoring the fact that his fighting style is not the same. Watch the fights or please leave your pointless posts to another thread.

Memorex
10-03-2004, 07:27 PM
if wlad had mayorgas chin he would be contending 4 the heavywheight championship its not his style its his beard. everytime he gets hit with a solid shot he looks like he wants to breakdance

Neuraxis
10-03-2004, 09:46 PM
if wlad had mayorgas chin he would be contending 4 the heavywheight championship its not his style its his beard. everytime he gets hit with a solid shot he looks like he wants to breakdance

Its not his style? Please only post here if you actually know something about Wlad.

Sir_Jose
10-04-2004, 12:29 AM
Its not his style? Please only post here if you actually know something about Wlad.

Dont you find it funny that you asked a question, had 3 guys come on and tell you the same exact thing and your still trying to maintain that everyone is wrong, but you?

Why bother asking a question if your just gonna dismiss everyone who's answer you dont agree with?

Torino
10-04-2004, 12:54 AM
Well Neuraxis,

So far............ The poll says 6 - 0 that Wlad should return to his European style.

Neuraxis
10-04-2004, 01:13 AM
Dont you find it funny that you asked a question, had 3 guys come on and tell you the same exact thing and your still trying to maintain that everyone is wrong, but you?

Why bother asking a question if your just gonna dismiss everyone who's answer you dont agree with?


What are you still doing here? It'd be like me trying to make a comment on whether Toney has switched styles. I haven't seen anywhere near enough fights to judge whether Toney has changed his style. Now Wlad has no head movement, he doesn't move side to side with his upper body, he doesn't measure with his left arm, he is throwing lame LL 1-2 combos which don't work for him, his posture is different, the list goes on and on. Once again if you are not going to watch any fights please don't comment.

TheFairPole
10-04-2004, 09:53 AM
I think you are all right about Wlad!!! The style he used to use was a fluid style of his own!!! Now he uses the same exact styl as Lennox Lewis did... I know i said before that he should but is just isn't working for him yet!!! he needs to combine the 2 styles because just trying to be Lennox isn't working!!! Wlad went from being the most fluid and talented big man in boxing to becoming an awkward and uncoordnated ****!!! He now looks like Lewis did early in his career... Lewis looked just like Wlad does now.

Explosivo
10-04-2004, 11:17 AM
Wlad should switch careers.

Neuraxis
10-04-2004, 03:13 PM
I think you are all right about Wlad!!! The style he used to use was a fluid style of his own!!! Now he uses the same exact styl as Lennox Lewis did... I know i said before that he should but is just isn't working for him yet!!! he needs to combine the 2 styles because just trying to be Lennox isn't working!!! Wlad went from being the most fluid and talented big man in boxing to becoming an awkward and uncoordnated ****!!! He now looks like Lewis did early in his career... Lewis looked just like Wlad does now.

Its like he was almost been more awkward and uncoordinated than Vitali at times in last two fights.

deuce_drop
10-04-2004, 03:17 PM
i think he should use the quit style and do gay ****, there he wouldn't get knocked out for taking one on the chin!

Winter
10-04-2004, 03:40 PM
It is difficult to say what Wladimir should do. Wladimir just began learning Emanual Steward's plan. To me he looked good. He was facing a fighter with a big punch, so he had to be careful. Every fighter who faces a big puncher needs to be a little careful. If Wladimir fights someone with no big punch, I am certain he will be attacking his opponent constantly. But, I think Wladimir has been learning from Emanual Steward to not let his opponents surprise him ever again.

Neuraxis
10-04-2004, 03:45 PM
GranTorino, would you care to tell us why you feel this way?

Winter
10-04-2004, 03:52 PM
GranTorino, would you care to tell us why you feel this way?

Neuraxis, did you say this to me? Did I say something wrong? I am sorry if I said wrong words. I don't know very much about boxing. I am probably wrong. I want Wladimir to win, he is my favorite fighter. I know he will be the champion again.

Neuraxis
10-04-2004, 03:58 PM
Neuraxis, did you say this to me? Did I say something wrong? I am sorry if I said wrong words. I don't know very much about boxing. I am probably wrong. I want Wladimir to win, he is my favorite fighter. I know he will be the champion again.

No I was trying to find out why the poster GranTorino voted No. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

BrooklynBomber
10-04-2004, 07:48 PM
Well i think Wlad should get his style back and fight like he fought before. Even though i can understand why he fought the way he fought. Wlad is now afraid to get KO'ed
and want to fight cautissly but the thing that he does not understand is that he is not made for this style. he does not have the foot work or the defense for cotious style. his biggest asset was his fire power and now he is afraid to use it and open up. i think that he should go with different trainer. You know more offense oriented (like Roach) and he should take some time off and and switch back.

Neuraxis
10-04-2004, 10:25 PM
Well i think Wlad should get his style back and fight like he fought before. Even though i can understand why he fought the way he fought. Wlad is now afraid to get KO'ed
and want to fight cautissly but the thing that he does not understand is that he is not made for this style. he does not have the foot work or the defense for cotious style. his biggest asset was his fire power and now he is afraid to use it and open up. i think that he should go with different trainer. You know more offense oriented (like Roach) and he should take some time off and and switch back.

Clearly that's what he should do. Still waiting on GranTorino.

Nautilus
10-04-2004, 10:35 PM
Clearly that's what he should do. Still waiting on GranTorino.


I am not sure whether Wlad should switch to his old style. He looked perfect against Brewster up to the end of round 4. It is hard to tell much from his fight with TOS, because TOS was running all the time.

Torino
10-05-2004, 12:10 AM
Clearly that's what he should do. Still waiting on GranTorino.I actually voted yes. My vote made it 6-0

Neuraxis
10-05-2004, 12:14 AM
I actually voted yes. My vote made it 6-0

No GranTorino 1 11.11%

Its not you. Its GranTorino. You two have pretty close names.

Torino
10-05-2004, 12:16 AM
No GranTorino 1 11.11%

Its not you. Its GranTorino. You two have pretty close names.oh ok. sorry.

techn9ne
10-05-2004, 12:22 AM
TOS headbutted Wlad on purpose at the end!

jabsRstiff
10-05-2004, 07:45 AM
Wlad should retire...& take all of his pathetic fans with him.
You idiots, the guy is shot...in fact, he's a never-was !

I cannot believe we just had a classic fight, featuring the return of the awesome Trinidad....& you clowns have said nothing about that fight. But, you sure have posted quite a bit about this MEANINGLESS fight between two ZEROES in Williamson & Wlad.
I am fascinated by what some people consider entertainment.


Wlad could not KO this frail guy, & hit the mat himself.
Keep supporting him....keep arguing with the REALISTS who can see he is going nowhere. Keep on keepin' until you just fade away, like Wlad has already done.

Dark Destroyer
10-05-2004, 08:12 AM
If Wlad had killer instinct and a chin it may be an improvement. :p

Winter
10-05-2004, 08:37 AM
I am a fan of Wladimir's. I am not pathetic. None of his fans are pathetic. Wladimir is no worse than Lennox Lewis' at this stage of his career. Lennox Lewis did have a weak chin, Lennox Lewis's career did start slow. I think Wladimir's chin is better, because he has never been knocked out like Lewis. Lennox Lewis was knockedout very badly. He beat an old Tyson, and because of this he is forgiven for his bad losses. I am not rewriting history by saying this, I am telling the truth. I always give respect to other fans and to their fighters, I would never insult them, I am not like that. I wish you would give me and my fighters some respect too. Wladimir will be champion.

jabsRstiff
10-05-2004, 08:40 AM
"I always give respect to other fans and to their fighters"

How about paying some respect to those wonderful things, logic & reality ?

Wlad is a no-hoper.

Let me ask...was he drugged again ?

techn9ne
10-05-2004, 09:04 AM
No... but he was drugged vs Sanders!

Look at his eyes as he begins his entrance... they are all glossy and hazey... that wasnt the normal wlad that fought there in Hanover, Germany!

I agree with Winter... Wlad will be champ again one day!

Long live Wlad!

Dark Destroyer
10-05-2004, 09:13 AM
No... but he was drugged vs Sanders!

Look at his eyes as he begins his entrance... they are all glossy and hazey... that wasnt the normal wlad that fought there in Hanover, Germany!

:D I cannot believe this. Just admit he was defeated fair and square twice. Corrie Sanders beat him bad and Lamon Pooster beat him too. Just accept that Wlad isn't a great fighter and stop trying to discredit the other fighters of their victories.

Thanks,
Wez

theironone
10-05-2004, 09:22 AM
Wlads garbage, lacking in stamina and a dodgy chin and now is confidence is shot, drugged my arse, he probably felt half gone after Sanders and Brewster had bounced some good shot's off his chin.
He was beaten fair and square by both fighters

deuce_drop
10-05-2004, 06:08 PM
No... but he was drugged vs Sanders!

Look at his eyes as he begins his entrance... they are all glossy and hazey... that wasnt the normal wlad that fought there in Hanover, Germany!

I agree with Winter... Wlad will be champ again one day!

Long live Wlad!

i think you guys are on drugs, you'll say anything to keep hope alive for your suckass fighter. the only way he'll be champ again is when he staring in a gay ****o role! and i'm sure the title will be " Long Live Wlad! "......

TheFairPole
10-06-2004, 03:09 PM
i think you guys are on drugs, you'll say anything to keep hope alive for your suckass fighter. the only way he'll be champ again is when he staring in a gay ****o role! and i'm sure the title will be " Long Live Wlad! "......


Man you sure have a thing for the gay ****, don't you!!!