January 28, 2005 - Representatives of WBA heavyweight champ John "The Quietman" Ruiz have informed **********.com that according to a letter they received from the WBA today, James "Lights-Out" Toney has been named Ruiz's mandatory challenger. A couple of weeks ago, Toney's trainer Freddie Roach first informed ********** that Toney-Ruiz was in the works. Ever the politician, Toney's promoter Dan Goossen told **********.com, "That's one of the fights we're working on, along with a few others." Ruiz's promoter Don King was unavailable for immediate comment. We'll continue to keep you updated so stay tuned to our front page for all of the latest.

good news I guess. start the name calling, because I think Ruiz wins. He is so awkward in there and Toney is smallish with not great Heavyweight power. I think Ruiz will do what he always does....bore the **** out of us and win an ugly decision.

I will pray to god that I'm wrong!!!!!! If Ruiz does beat Toney, we have no choice but to give him credit. :(

I hope Toney killz this punk...

Out of Klitschko, Byrd and Ruiz I think Toney will have the hardest time with Ruiz. Toney won't be able to work him inside and Ruiz will frustrate the hell out of him.

Marvdave i'm shocked, Toney is too fast for Ruiz. I say Toney out points him. Even if Ruiz tries to wrestle Toney will land before he clinches. I honestly cannot see Ruiz winning this at all.

Marvdave i'm shocked, Toney is too fast for Ruiz. I say Toney out points him. Even if Ruiz tries to wrestle Toney will land before he clinches. I honestly cannot see Ruiz winning this at all.

I hope your right :cool:

I hope your right :cool:

Trust me i'm right here. I have every bit of faith that Toney will man handle Ruiz. Ruiz is a joke and a bum in Toneys opinion and pride will make him win this fight alone.

im amazed ruiz is still the champ hes beat some good boxers but theres no way hes beating toney

im amazed ruiz is still the champ hes beat some good boxers but theres no way hes beating toney

Your not the only one pal, Ruiz is the most shocking Heavyweight Champion in years.

January 28, 2005 - Representatives of WBA heavyweight champ John "The Quietman" Ruiz have informed **********.com that according to a letter they received from the WBA today, James "Lights-Out" Toney has been named Ruiz's mandatory challenger. A couple of weeks ago, Toney's trainer Freddie Roach first informed ********** that Toney-Ruiz was in the works. Ever the politician, Toney's promoter Dan Goossen told **********.com, "That's one of the fights we're working on, along with a few others." Ruiz's promoter Don King was unavailable for immediate comment. We'll continue to keep you updated so stay tuned to our front page for all of the latest.


this is for real? Toney gets a title shot a real belt? ****ING A!!!! as long as JT follows the blueprint set by RJJ, he'll beat Ruiz and win the WBA hw championship. he must land big punches, uppercuts, hooks, on the inside before the manlover clinches, if james can land the amount of punches he usually does he'll stop Ruiz late

Ruiz smothers guys and takes away their speed. Im picking Ruiz in an ugly fight. Toney doesnt have the reach to keep Ruiz off. Bad fight for Toney

Trust me i'm right here. I have every bit of faith that Toney will man handle Ruiz. Ruiz is a joke and a bum in Toneys opinion and pride will make him win this fight alone.

Toney hasn't proven to me that he is a true heavyweight. Ruiz is a joke thats for sure, but I'm not so sure Toney isn't a joke as well. He certainly talks great, but we shall see. I keep thinking about the Jirov fight when even though Toney won, Jirov was able to inflict his will on Toney and make Toney fight his fight. Toney is the better a better fighter than Jirov and won on determination in that one. So maybe he will be able to will his way to victory against the "Nyquill man" Ruiz will maul Toney and frustrate him inside. Toney has a tendancy to fight to the level of his competition. I don't think Toney will come out bombing in this one. He will use his superior boxing ability and try to wear down Ruiz to get him out late. I just think Ruiz will frustrate him enough to get the "Don King" decision.

Toney hasn't proven to me that he is a true heavyweight. Ruiz is a joke thats for sure, but I'm not so sure Toney isn't a joke as well. He certainly talks great, but we shall see. I keep thinking about the Jirov fight when even though Toney won, Jirov was able to inflict his will on Toney and make Toney fight his fight. Toney is the better a better fighter than Jirov and won on determination in that one. So maybe he will be able to will his way to victory against the "Nyquill man" Ruiz will maul Toney and frustrate him inside. Toney has a tendancy to fight to the level of his competition. I don't think Toney will come out bombing in this one. He will use his superior boxing ability and try to wear down Ruiz to get him out late. I just think Ruiz will frustrate him enough to get the "Don King" decision.

Toney will be aware of the brutal traps that wait for him in this fight and i think he is good enough and smart enough to beat Ruiz. Roy did it and i class Toney in a masterclass talent wise Roy was. I agree that it could turn ugly but i don't think Toney will allow it to happen.

Toney will be aware of the brutal traps that wait for him in this fight and i think he is good enough and smart enough to beat Ruiz. Roy did it and i class Toney in a masterclass talent wise Roy was. I agree that it could turn ugly but i don't think Toney will allow it to happen.


Toney is an all time great, 2nd only in natural talent to RJJ. he has the skillz to beat Ruiz on points, although i'd rather see Ruiz get KO'd. Don't forget, Toney is also hungry to prove his boxing legacy, he wants his place in history as the second middleweight champ to become hw champ in 100 years. Toney wants this so bad, his mad skillz and determination will get to ruiz

Toney is an all time great, 2nd only in natural talent to RJJ. he has the skillz to beat Ruiz on points, although i'd rather see Ruiz get KO'd. Don't forget, Toney is also hungry to prove his boxing legacy, he wants his place in history as the second middleweight champ to become hw champ in 100 years. Toney wants this so bad, his mad skillz and determination will get to ruiz

I'm sure he will win. If by some chance Ruiz does i'll cry. :mad: :eek: :cool:

Great news, who ever loses we win.

Great news, who ever loses we win.

good point..why didn't I think of that?

Ruiz by UD.

Great news, who ever loses we win.

How do you get that? If Toney loses i lose ten years of my life through shock and anger.

It would be fun to see toney get his trash talikng ass get sent to the canvas.

Hopefully Toney wil be favorite in this fight so I can drop big money on Ruiz. Toney is a second class fighter.

I posted this before if any of you Toney scrotum sailors are man enough to bet, I'll put 50.00 on Ruiz to win. We can do this neteller or paypal. First one to take me up on it gets the deal. Man JTs style is fukin tailor made for the gay grapplin Ruiz@!! :mad:

You people are sick. Out of all the people for Toney to get beat by you think Ruiz will do it? :D I'm shocked. If anyone will stop Toney it will be Vitali or Lennox if he comes back.

If Ruiz comes with his beard Toney will lose. I think Golota exposed that Ruiz has a week chin, and he grows the beard so that the opponenet goes for his nose.

I posted this before if any of you Toney scrotum sailors are man enough to bet, I'll put 50.00 on Ruiz to win. We can do this neteller or paypal. First one to take me up on it gets the deal. Man JTs style is fukin tailor made for the gay grapplin Ruiz@!! :mad:

Does everyone have to be nutter hugger or scrotum sailor when someone voices an opinion of a fighter you don't agree with?

Does everything have to be nutter hugger or scrotum sailor when someone voices an opinion of a fighter you don't agree with?
You gonna take the bet or be a ***** Darkie destroyer?

You should wait to see odds before you place any bets. Maybe Toney will be the favorite so you can make more money betting offically with bookie or internet.

yeah i understand all that but this more like a pride thing. These Toney fans are delusional and as of Yet not one has taken this bet I've offered for like 2 weeks now!

They know deepdown he will lose!

You gonna take the bet or be a ***** Darkie destroyer?

I'm not going to bet real cash because i have no use for 50 dollars and i don't have a paypal account. Just take the comforting knowledge that when they do fight and Toney wins that you'll still have 50 dollars in your pocket. ;)

Does everyone have to be nutter hugger or scrotum sailor when someone voices an opinion of a fighter you don't agree with?

Hey Wez, are you going to the Hatton-Tszyu fight...I heard it's gonna be @2am..

Hey Wez, are you going to the Hatton-Tszyu fight...I heard it's gonna be @2am..

Yeah i'm gonna go. I haven't got my tickets yet but i will make sure they are bought this week. There is no way i can miss a fight like this to be honest. I'll be meeting up with some fellow posters at the event too which should be cool. :cool:

I'm not going to bet real cash because i have no use for 50 dollars and i don't have a paypal account. Just take the comforting knowledge that when they do fight and Toney wins that you'll still have 50 dollars in your pocket. ;)
what ever *****. You aint gonna bet cause you aint got the ballz.

Yeah i'm gonna go. I haven't got my tickets yet but i will make sure they are bought this week. There is no way i can miss a fight like this to be honest. I'll be meeting up with some fellow posters at the event too which should be cool. :cool:

Awesome...ppl will be drunk as hell by the time they get to the ring..

what ever *****. You aint gonna bet cause you aint got the ballz.

Why the **** should i bet real money? I haven't bet with anyone on here for real cash so why should i bet with you **** face? I've got the balls to back up EVERY word i say. :cool:

Any good fights at Madison Square Garden this year?

Awesome...ppl will be drunk as hell by the time they get to the ring..

More than likely :D I know the atmospehere will be amazing. I really hope Ricky does it although Tszyu's power will be very challenging indeed for Ricky as he has never felt power like Tszyu.

Why the **** should i bet real money? I haven't bet with anyone on here for real cash so why should i bet with you **** face? I've got the balls to back up EVERY word i say. :cool:
Then take the bet if you think Toney can't lose! Like I said yer all talk and no action DarkY

Any good fights at Madison Square Garden this year?

I don't know how the Tito-Winky fight ended in MGM instead of the MSG...maybe Winky didn't want to fight in front of 15,000 crazy Puertoricans..

Then take the bet if you think Toney can't lose! Like I said yer all talk and know action DarkY

I'll bet you all the points i have that Toney wins and thats all i will do. I'm not going to start betting cash over the internet and i never will.

I'll bet you all the points i have that Toney wins and thats all i will do. I'm not going to start betting cash over the internet and i never will.
Betting for points, play mony, pennies, etc.. is for women. BE A MAN and grow a pair!

Betting for points, play mony, pennies, etc.. is for women. BE A MAN and grow a pair!

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These kind of points cannot be earned easily at all now rick changed the system and he said he will enable new features where we will be able to use them. I'm willing to bet all my BS points on this and leave myself pointless.

I'm willing to bet all my BS points on this and leave myself pointless.
And that is exactly what that bet would be POINTLESS!!!! Stop being a ***** and put yer money where yer mouth is! Ruiz over Toney $50.00 any real men here wanna take it. This girl aint got the guts or confidence to bet on Toney Cause RUIZ WILL DOMINATE HIM!

And that is exactly what that bet would be POINTLESS!!!! Stop being a ***** and put yer money where yer mouth is! Ruiz over Toney $50.00 any real men here wanna take it. This girl aint got the guts or confidence to bet on Toney Cause RUIZ WILL DOMINATE HIM!


Ok then you ****ing ***** i'll take the bet just to show your feeble punk ass up in front of everyone. When Toney wins be sure to put this in your signature too:

"I'm a loud mouth ****** talking *****"

Ok then you ****ing ***** i'll take the bet just to show your feeble punk ass up in front of everyone. When Toney wins be sure to put this in your signature too:

"I'm a loud mouth ****** talking *****"
Ok OK what is yer neteller and/or paypal (PM it to me and I'll give you mine) you better not welch on this bet you fukin *****!

Ok OK what is yer neteller and/or paypal (PM it to me and I'll give you mine) you better not welch on this bet you fukin *****!

Don't worry retard i won't back down from this, showing you up in front of everyone will be worth it. I'll send you the money via post. Like i said i don't have Paypal or the other thing so this will have to do.

Toney by KO baby!!!!!!

Infact it will be 50 English pounds you owe me, what the **** would i want with dollars :D Remember that

Don't worry retard i won't back down from this, showing you up in front of everyone will be worth it. I'll send you the money via post. Like i said i don't have Paypal or the other thing so this will have to do.
Being a real man and takin my bet is showin me up? OK sparky! Don't send me that gay euro BS send me greenbacks. Don't worry im a MAN of my words. Ruiz loses you get da 50 its that simple. Thanx for the donation Darky!

Being a real man and takin my bet is showin me up? OK sparky! Don't send me that gay euro BS send me greenbacks. Don't worry im a MAN of my words. Ruiz loses you get da 50 its that simple. Thanx for the donation Darky!

lol Good, it's officially a deal. It's a pleasure doing business with you and taking your money from you. :cool: I won't forget this bet and i will honour it to the end.

toney will outspeed ruiz and beat him up more than roy jones beat up ruiz

This isn't the first news regarding a possible Ruiz-Toney fight (I think it was like two weeks ago?). So I'm not really surprise, but am happy nonetheless. As I said in the other similar thread, though Toney is not Roy Jones, his skills is enough to beat John "The Clinchmeister" Ruiz. He should take note of what Roy Jones did and use a similar tactics for a UD. There is no way Toney would let John "The Most Hated" Ruiz rape him. And unlike RJJ, Toney have more power in the division so he could wear John "The Best Actor" Ruiz down for most of the rounds, and go for a very late TKO. But I'm still going for a UD.

OMG, can you just imagine all the trash talks [from Toney] leading to the bout? Priceless! I'm telling you man, priceless.

I expect ruiz to get dominated start to finish, and resort to excessive clinching/two or three low blows near his end.

lights out

Toney will eat Ruiz alive...he'll make him pay every time he tries that ****** ass hugging ****. Toney by comfortable decision.

I was wondering when the other realists were going to post. :D

I think Toney's uppercuts and bodyshots are gonna be too much for old Louis. Plus he's got mad experience so he's probably seen all kinds of styles. I'm actually picking Toney to KO Johny in round 9.

Just what we need another ruiz fight.....yay

Your not the only one pal, Ruiz is the most shocking Heavyweight Champion in years.

this post made me think of the recent weakest hvyweight champs

if Seldon and Ruiz had fought, who would've won?

it would be great to see that bum Seldon make a comeback and ko ruiz

I'm sure he will win. If by some chance Ruiz does i'll cry. :mad: :eek: :cool:

If Toney wins I'll cry, tears of JOY!!! Maybe not as many as if the Eagles beat the Pats, but tears of joy nontheless. One more boring bum removed from my radar screen. All POWER to Toney!

John Ruiz isn't a champion! James Toney can beat him! "Light Out" isn't a natural heavyweight, he fight only 2-time in this category, won an old-man Evander Holyfield and a modest Rydell Booker. But "The QuietMan" will be his third victim!

this post made me think of the recent weakest hvyweight champs

if Seldon and Ruiz had fought, who would've won?

it would be great to see that bum Seldon make a comeback and ko ruiz

I hope Seldon would have won but no doubt Ruiz would have beat him. I thought Fres would beat Ruiz :eek:

If Toney wins I'll cry, tears of JOY!!! Maybe not as many as if the Eagles beat the Pats, but tears of joy nontheless. One more boring bum removed from my radar screen. All POWER to Toney!

lol I just may cry too, i really don't like John Ruiz :cool:

Toney will eat Ruiz alive...he'll make him pay every time he tries that ****** ass hugging ****. Toney by comfortable decision.

The boxing overall skill difference hear is pretty big I agree I think Toney wins by a decision or maybe even a KO.

This is how bad it really is in boxing today.

John Ruiz vs James Toney for the Heavyweight Championship of the World?? NO THANKS...................