View Full Version : Miranda: "I Will Knockout Anyone at 160"
BIGPOPPAPUMP 03-27-2006, 09:38 PM After a stirring seventh round TKO of Howard Eastman on ESPN2’s Friday Night Fights last weekend, top middleweight contender Edison “Pantera” Miranda is eager to take the next step in his career and bring home a world championship. [details (http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=3527)]
borikua 03-27-2006, 09:43 PM At last, some excitement in the Middleweight division...
Suhn Tszu 03-27-2006, 09:43 PM Not unless he stops dropping his left hand when coming out of the clinch...Taylor will destroy him...He beat an old ass man, he's not ready for the top fighters in the division yet...
King Jaffe Joffer 03-27-2006, 09:49 PM Taylor Wright Hops would all destroy him. Anyone with any boxing skill would beat him. Eastman had him out on his feet a few times
borikua 03-27-2006, 09:51 PM **** it, at least we have an exciting new middleweight with real power...
moy22487 03-27-2006, 09:54 PM i have him beating any of those contender fighters, he would ko ward.
dansweeney 03-27-2006, 09:56 PM Kelly Pavlik will knock him out, that dude has some serious pop in his punches
Shanus 03-27-2006, 10:20 PM Pavlik won't be at 160 for long, the guy's 6'3..
Nautilus 03-27-2006, 10:23 PM After a stirring seventh round TKO of Howard Eastman on ESPN2’s Friday Night Fights last weekend, top middleweight contender Edison “Pantera” Miranda is eager to take the next step in his career and bring home a world championship. [details (http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=3527)]
miranda is one wicked, aminal fighta
TheEvilSaint 03-27-2006, 10:24 PM i heard miranda has a suspect/soft chin. true or false?
Shanus 03-27-2006, 10:25 PM i heard miranda has a suspect/soft chin. true or false?
He got popped a few times by Eastman and wasn't minutely stunned after them, but it's not like he has a 'glass' chin.
dansweeney 03-27-2006, 10:29 PM He got popped a few times by Eastman and wasn't minutely stunned after them, but it's not like he has a 'glass' chin.
Eastman can punch pretty well, but Miranda was staggered at the end of the 6th pretty bad, he was doing a little dance, but he seems to have excellent recovery skills and heart
Shanus 03-27-2006, 10:32 PM Eastman can punch pretty well, but Miranda was staggered at the end of the 6th pretty bad, he was doing a little dance, but he seems to have excellent recovery skills and heart
Yeah, but Eastman's getting old.. maybe 5 years ago he could have put up more of a fight.
Winky will drive up in the bus...and make a gesture towards Miranda to get in. He'll pat the seat lightly before he jumps on....he'll drive 100 plus miles an hour taking him to school...with Miranda screaming to get out. Only problem is..that ride won't end, school is two minutes long, and he has an even worse bus ride back.
phallus 03-27-2006, 10:33 PM miranda looked good against eastman, it was an exciting fight. i like miranda, he sort of reminds me of a young aaron pryor, but he's not ready for taylor yet, maybe in two or three more fights he will be. i'd sure to like to see that fight, though
dansweeney 03-27-2006, 10:35 PM Yeah, but Eastman's getting old.. maybe 5 years ago he could have put up more of a fight.
5 years ago he fights back in the 7th round and knocks out miranda, probably
Nautilus 03-27-2006, 10:37 PM 5 years ago he fights back in the 7th round and knocks out miranda, probably
five years ago da erbal remedy was greena
moy22487 03-27-2006, 10:43 PM you cant compare him to the champs yet. eastman does not have a strong punch but he did have miranda hurt twice in the 6th, but he recoverd pritty quik. i have miranda beating most the top 10 in this division all up till number 4.
jason100x 03-27-2006, 11:17 PM Let's see if he can back his words up with actions. that's where the fun part comes in.
King Jaffe Joffer 03-27-2006, 11:29 PM EVenthough I would favor Taylor over him right now, I wouldnt be surprised if he KO'd Taylor either. Taylor likes to fight and isnt scared to trade so Miranda could catch him. BHOP cant break an egg after 40 and had Taylor hanging on turning his back like a cowared. So Im sure Miranda could KO him. But Miranda has a suspect chin himself. Miranda would mos def be a live dog
IAMTHEGREATEST 03-27-2006, 11:37 PM Miranda did have a good showing against Eastman who in the past has fought future HOF's, but if i had to compare that EASTMAN to the EASTMAN that fought say a B_HOP i would say he was about 75% the fighter he was..... With that in mind Miranda needs about 4-5 more fights to even think of taking on a JT or WW, i would love to see the guy in the ring with some one like SAM THE SANDMAN SOLIMAN first to really see what he has!!! However i would favor SOLIMAN simply because of his punch output and his very unorthdox fighting style!
I ALSO CANT WAIT TO SEE A MIRANDA V ABRAHAM
deuce_drop 03-27-2006, 11:58 PM Miranda definitely has the punch to make some noise in the middleweight division. he needs to tighten up his game a bit before messing with any other champs at middleweight.
he did get rocked a bit, but he fought through it and made a good account for himself. i thought at least, he has heart.
one thing that has been proven over and over again throughout the history of boxing is knockout artist usually have suspect chins. it's like they have a good run and get a streak going then they get ko'd once themselves and it's never the same after that.
they respond differently to getting hit and get rocked easley.
i'm kind of curious to why that is. why guys with one punch knock out power can't take punches all that well, and tend to get ko'd in most of if not all their losses??.....hhhmmm, Miranda looks like he might fall into that category. or maybe not time will tell.
Pantera2000 03-28-2006, 12:31 AM Bottom line is no matter who he fights it's gonna be something everyone wants to watch. He is exciting as they get!
IAMTHEGREATEST 03-28-2006, 12:38 AM Bottom line is no matter who he fights it's gonna be something everyone wants to watch. He is exciting as they get!
I dont know about that one, i mean EASTMAN had him rocked in the 6th had that been JT, WW, SAM S, ARTHUR A, BAD CHAD D, or anyone else MIRANDA woulda been sleep and this post would be
non-exsistent
Taylor boxes him to a UD, maybe even a late stoppage.
Strum boxes his ears off for a comfortable UD.
Wright, see Strum.
Hell, Hop would beat him if he was still fighting at 160.
Pantera2000 03-28-2006, 12:55 AM And you are all the same people that said Eastman couldn't be hurt. Miranda needs some polishing, but I think he has the potential to beat any of the top middleweights. And even if he didn't, you know damn well it would be exciting!
the bottom line, to me at least, is that this guy needs at least 3 more solid comp fights before he starts claiming that he can take down anyone at 160. he needs more polishing. a good prospect, it seems, but is rough on the edges. i did liked the fact that he pounced on eastman when he smelled blood in the water, but i feel he needs a bit more adversity since this was his 5th fight in the US i believe. not sure about the level of comp he's faced before eastman.
the_truth_1984 03-28-2006, 01:20 AM Miranda has the ability to become a major player at 160.He has power and good stamina.Being rocked by Eastman doesn't mean he has a bad chin, Eastman has respectable power he did drop William Joppy in the last round of their bout and unless you're Tito or old as hell like he was against Taylor it's hard to hurt Joppy.I have a problem with something that has to do a little bit with Miranda.Abraham is scheduled to face Kofi Jantuah according to *********.com and according to boxrec.com his is still scheduled to face Miranda.That is disrespectful to Kofi who is a big puncher with skill and I think has a very good chance of beating Abraham.
AintGottaClue 03-28-2006, 01:53 AM i like how people say he was "rocked a bit", lol did u see the fight, he was on queer street and almost was KO'd walking back to his cornor, AA and JT KO him early, miranda will do better vs the weaker punchers but how does he handle a great jab a solid defence, a counter puncher, is yet to be seen
eazy_mas 03-28-2006, 05:33 AM He still need some more oppentes to get to box really well as for the chin. I dont think someone how lived as hard as Miranda has a soft chin, even if he has his heart would hold his body up and fight back.
Nodogoshi 03-28-2006, 03:55 PM I thought Miranda had a good fight in was was a huge step up in class against his first world class opponent. I think this fight took him to a new level. I don't think his chin was as suspect as his D though. He was open to be caught and a boxer of Eastmans caliber can rock anyone if he catches them clean on the chin. But time will tell. He definatly doesnt want to be taking to many punches like that against a real power puncher.
GunStar 03-28-2006, 04:15 PM Miranda will have problem beating Taylor, Winky or Sturm.
Merly Moreira 03-28-2006, 05:10 PM Trinidad Vs Miranda What Happens
dansweeney 03-28-2006, 07:05 PM Trinidad Vs Miranda What Happens
Trinidad would knock miranda out, even now that he is past his prime. anybody who is weak on defense trinidad has an excellent chance of knocking them out
vandiar 03-28-2006, 07:06 PM i like how people say he was "rocked a bit", lol did u see the fight, he was on queer street and almost was KO'd walking back to his cornor, AA and JT KO him early, miranda will do better vs the weaker punchers but how does he handle a great jab a solid defence, a counter puncher, is yet to be seen
yea like 7 seconds before the bell rang, had that been earlier in the round it miranda would have been tko'd/ko'd.. but the dude definately has some power , needs to work on some defense though. winky, taylor, sturm all would take him to school.. but you just never know until it has been seen.
Pantera2000 03-28-2006, 08:42 PM yea like 7 seconds before the bell rang, had that been earlier in the round it miranda would have been tko'd/ko'd.. but the dude definately has some power , needs to work on some defense though. winky, taylor, sturm all would take him to school.. but you just never know until it has been seen.
Yea all you bastards said since Abraham, Joppy, and Hopkins couldn't KO the almighty Eastman there was no way Miranda would.
Now all I hear is that Winky, Taylor, and Sturm will take Miranda to school. I'll just sit back and shut my mouth... Wait and see my friends.
TyrantT316 03-28-2006, 10:07 PM **** it, at least we have an exciting new middleweight with real power...
:) agreed
we need them all...
AintGottaClue 03-28-2006, 11:27 PM dont know if i said this but sturm boxes miranda to death
Pantera2000 03-29-2006, 12:19 AM dont know if i said this but sturm boxes miranda to death
You are talking about a guy that got a split decision against Hector Velazco in Germany! You know what that really means... Abraham than goes on to KO Velazco in 5 rounds. However Abraham pulls out a questionable decision against Eastman 2 1/2 months later.
Miranda than beats the living crap out of Eastman and send him into retirement.
Now this may be a lot of A=B=C=D, but I tell you one thing for sure. It don't add up to Sturm boxes Miranda to death!
borikua 03-29-2006, 12:22 AM A fight with Sturm would be a good one for Edison...Hey Pantera, where does Miranda trains? Are the ppl from Shot's going to do party to celebrate Miranda's win over Eastman?
Pantera2000 03-29-2006, 12:26 AM A fight with Sturm would be a good one for Edison...Hey Pantera, where does Miranda trains? Are the ppl from Shot's going to do party to celebrate Miranda's win over Eastman?
He trains in Carolina at the Roberto Clemente Escuela de Esportes. The owners of Shots were at the fight in Ft Lauderdale. When Miranda returns to Puerto Rico I am sure they will have some sort of party in his honor.
borikua 03-29-2006, 12:30 AM He trains in Carolina at the Roberto Clemente Escuela de Esportes. The owners of Shots were at the fight in Ft Lauderdale. When Miranda returns to Puerto Rico I am sure they will have some sort of party in his honor.
Nice, I live in Isla Verde, I would like to meet him and take a pic with him...The owners of Shot are doing the right thing supporting our boxers...I remember Cotto having their logo on his trunks a few times...
Pantera2000 03-29-2006, 05:19 PM I guess SturmRules did the math and realized his formula doesn't work!
AintGottaClue 03-29-2006, 08:27 PM I guess SturmRules did the math and realized his formula doesn't work!
u think miranda beats sturm because? besides A=B=C=D DOES NOT WORK IN BOXING FOOL
dansweeney 03-29-2006, 08:30 PM u think miranda beats sturm because? besides A=B=C=D DOES NOT WORK IN BOXING FOOL
Sturm is nothing special, he has no pop on his punches and runs all night, miranda would kayo his ass, so would taylor, winky would ud him., even Kelly pavlik would prob kayo him
AintGottaClue 03-29-2006, 08:44 PM Sturm is nothing special, he has no pop on his punches and runs all night, miranda would kayo his ass, so would taylor, winky would ud him., even Kelly pavlik would prob kayo him
then when they fight u better put up some points or shut up fool, ill be sure to punk your ass all the time when he shows up these guys that u are sooo sure will beat him
Pantera2000 03-29-2006, 08:46 PM Sturm is nothing special, he has no pop on his punches and runs all night, miranda would kayo his ass, so would taylor, winky would ud him., even Kelly pavlik would prob kayo him
yea, Sturm sounds like Eastman but without the granite chin. Ouch, I'd hate to see a man without a granite chin get hit the way Eastman did last Friday.
trinidadpr87 03-29-2006, 08:46 PM I think Sturm would easily outbox Miranda and win a decision.
XionComrade 03-29-2006, 08:50 PM i heard miranda has a suspect/soft chin. true or false?
Trueish, he was almost TKOed by Eastman.
Pantera2000 03-29-2006, 08:57 PM Trueish, he was almost TKOed by Eastman.
Not true... he was hit in the temple and recovered very fast. Did it phase him? Yea, but at the same time it would have KO'd anyone with a soft chin. It happened at the end of the round, but he would have sucked it up at any point during the round. Miranda defense needs some improvement and trust me, I've seen him get hit square a few times much harder than what Eastman did. For some reason those temple shots just shake you up more than a typical head shot.
dansweeney 03-29-2006, 10:11 PM Not true... he was hit in the temple and recovered very fast. Did it phase him? Yea, but at the same time it would have KO'd anyone with a soft chin. It happened at the end of the round, but he would have sucked it up at any point during the round. Miranda defense needs some improvement and trust me, I've seen him get hit square a few times much harder than what Eastman did. For some reason those temple shots just shake you up more than a typical head shot.
ya he was staggered, but nowhere near a tko, eastman didn't even jump on him when it happened. not even close to a stoppage at that point
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