Emanuel Augustus Interview
26-Mar-2006

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FF: Let me ask you this: if you can deliver one message to Ricky Hatton right now what would it be?

AE: Out of all the times the hitman has been the hitman, don't be scared to be the hitman against me. I'm ordering a hit on Emanuel Augustus. I want to hire the Hitman Ricky Hatton to come try it. I would like to put contract out on Emanuel Augustus for Ricky Hatton to come and try and take me on.

FF: So that offer you made to fight him for just 50 grand is true? That's a legitimate offer?

AE: As far as I'm concerned yes. I haven't talked my promoter about it though.

FF: Let me ask you, what are your thoughts on Ricky Hatton as a fighter?

AE: I don't know because I've never fought him. I'd have to fight him. But to be honest with you I really don't like the way he fights. I shouldn't say I don't like it I just don't respect it. What he's doing is holding you with one hand and hitting you with the other. And the referee often lets him get away with it. That's really all he's doing. That's why he can't fight you in the middle of the ring and if he ever learns to fight in the middle of the ring he's going to lose.



FF: Well what if Ricky Hatton tries that style against Emanuel Augustus?

AE: It doesn't matter! It's not going to work. Ricky Hatton is an ideal opponent for me. For me to look good I need an opponent like Ricky Hatton. I'm telling you its gonna be like Ali and Foreman.



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Augustus talks about fighting Hatton, Miguel Cotto and a fan's dream fight with Arturo Gatti! Click here for the full interview. (http://www.fightfan.com/interviews/0306-Augustus.htm)

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For those of you who haven't seen Augustus fight, check out this video of his fight with Mickey Ward, which he took on just two weeks notice.


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this is 1 fight i'd love to see

Hahaha,

26 losses (Robbed in all of them apparently) and he's calling out the undisputed man at 140.

I couldn't believe there was a thread on this where some people took this seriously. I've never seen the guy fight, he might have the style to trouble Hatton. Then again, he might be full of sh*t.

Hahaha,

26 losses (Robbed in all of them apparently) and he's calling out the undisputed man at 140.

I couldn't believe there was a thread on this where some people took this seriously. I've never seen the guy fight, he might have the style to trouble Hatton. Then again, he might be full of sh*t.


Augustus is a crowd pleaser and a fan favorite. His fight with Mickey Ward plays once a month over here.

He'd be a great fight for Hatton, because he'd bring a lot of fans to the table, and would look spectactular in the fight he'd put up.

Hahaha,

26 losses (Robbed in all of them apparently) and he's calling out the undisputed man at 140.

I couldn't believe there was a thread on this where some people took this seriously. I've never seen the guy fight, he might have the style to trouble Hatton. Then again, he might be full of sh*t.

well if you never seen him fight, then maybe you shouldn't even post on this thread. This guy can fight, every time i've seen him fight i thought he won but was robbed, except for when he fought PBF, who later said and still says that Augustus was the toughest fight he ever had!

There's really no need to come in and write him off because of his record. He was a starving club fighter growing up, and he was always taking fights on a weeks notice and fighting in eveyone's home town. He fought anytime, anywehere, and some times paid a price for it.

The bottom line is he's a Ward - Gatti esq fighter who loves to fight on the inside, has a helluva chin, and can throw 100 punches per round at a torrid pace. As a result, he has a cult following over here, and brings a big TV audience.

What, I can't post sense because I haven't seen him fight? I'm not commenting on his abilities, bu that its ridiculous that he thinks he should be getting a shot at the champ for 50 pence nevermind 50k.

If he's that good, go and win some bouts (maybe avenge some of those losses) then come back with a better claim to get a shot. He sounds ridiculous to me, the way he's talking about it suggests he's a silly silly man.

What, I can't post sense because I haven't seen him fight? I'm not commenting on his abilities, bu that its ridiculous that he thinks he should be getting a shot at the champ for 50 pence nevermind 50k.

If he's that good, go and win some bouts (maybe avenge some of those losses) then come back with a better claim to get a shot. He sounds ridiculous to me, the way he's talking about it suggests he's a silly silly man.


How did I know I'd hear a list of Britts crying about this.

I doubt Hatton's title would even need to be on the line. Agaisnt Collazo, his titles aren't on the line, he's fighting for a meaningless paper title, and not a lot of people know very much about the guy.

The point is, Augustus is an exciting fight, and would bring more fans to the table who would see Ricky fight in a barn burner.

His plan to come to America was supposed to be about gaining US fans and garnering PPV marketability.

A spectactular fight agaisnt Augustus infront of many more viewers would be well worth the trouble.

i like hatton i just don't think he can beat Augustus. His style is so slick, and his chin is great. id pick Augustus by late ko

Crying? Hardly, I just find it incredulous that a number of people buy into this Augustus cr*p. I don't really identify myself on here by nationality, and I'm not a huge Hatton fan.

Hatton is all about positioning himself for superfights, and Collazo holds a belt at welterweight (I agree completely that its meaningless to us boxing fans) which helps with the branding of this fight and should he win, with the branding of bigger fights in the future.

I think we're a bit closed off in these forums thinking that our boxing fan mentality is what makes money for these guys. its the people with a very casual interest who make the money for Hatton and co. They don't realise the nonsense of the ABCs and they will recognise Hatton as the white british guy who has blood all over his face and is a two weight champion.

Crying? Hardly, I just find it incredulous that a number of people buy into this Augustus cr*p. I don't really identify myself on here by nationality, and I'm not a huge Hatton fan.

Hatton is all about positioning himself for superfights, and Collazo holds a belt at welterweight (I agree completely that its meaningless to us boxing fans) which helps with the branding of this fight and should he win, with the branding of bigger fights in the future.

I think we're a bit closed off in these forums thinking that our boxing fan mentality is what makes money for these guys. its the people with a very casual interest who make the money for Hatton and co. They don't realise the nonsense of the ABCs and they will recognise Hatton as the white british guy who has blood all over his face and is a two weight champion.



It's popularity and PPV interest that's going to position Hatton for bigger fights, not meaningless paper titles agaisnt lesser known fighters.

The bottom line is you've said you've never seen Augustus fight, and you're looking at his record on paper to justify why you don't think he's a sensable opponent.

Regardless of titles, Hatton wants big PPV fights and acclaim in North America. Augustus is a fan favorite here, and an exciting fight in front of a bigger audience would win Hatton more fans, which is what his goal is.

The bottom line is that if you haven't seen the guy fight, you're not really in a position to say why you think it wouldn't be a good match up.

We'll have to agree to disagree, I don't think theres any way Hatton could justify his first fight on American soil being against a guy who, even though he throws 100 power punches around and can't be hit, and according to thegreatest1 would beat Hatton (whos barely been hurt) by late TKO, has lost 26 fights.

Sorry just doesn't fly. I'm not particularly excited by the Collazo fight either, but I understand why it was made.

Laters mate.

i like hatton i just don't think he can beat Augustus. His style is so slick, and his chin is great. id pick Augustus by late ko

it would definately be one of the tougher fights Hatton ever been in if he fought Augustus.

if you give Augustus time to train and prepare himself for a fight, like other fighters get proper time to train. Augustus will wreck shop against damn near anybody, no doubt.

all he needs to do is get his head on straight while he's in training and he could make a good run at a title.

having Dibella as a promoter can and hopefully will better his chances for getting proper length of time to train, get the right kind of fights to set up a title, and it might also help out with the judges since he's being promoted by Dibella...

who knows really, all I know about Augustus is never judge a book by it's cover, because it's content could be shoxking and then some!

I'll watch any of Augustus's fights, because I know that 98% of the time I'll get more than my moneys worth. sometimes ten fold......

We'll have to agree to disagree, I don't think theres any way Hatton could justify his first fight on American soil being against a guy who, even though he throws 100 power punches around and can't be hit, and according to thegreatest1 would beat Hatton (whos barely been hurt) by late TKO, has lost 26 fights.

Sorry just doesn't fly. I'm not particularly excited by the Collazo fight either, but I understand why it was made.

Laters mate.


I don't think he'd beat Hatton, it's possible, but the bottom line is that more people would watch him than in with Collazo, and it would be a much more thrilling fight.

For Hatton, that accomplishes much more in the big picture to fight in front of more fans in a fight that's sure to be fire works.

I can't say that I've ever seen Collazo, but on paper I'd say that Augustus seems to have more experience to handle a guy like Hatton better than Collazo.

Augustus has fought damn near everybody, prospects, champs(ex or now current), contenders, whoever and has been more than competitive against whoever he's fought too. with the exception of a few here and there....

I'd rather watch Augustus fight Hatton over Callazo because I know that fight would be an instant classic....... and another classic fight in Augustsus's resume.........plus I know what kind of fight Augustus brings to the ring, I don't know the fight style of Collazo, I can't say I've seen him.........cause if I had seen him fight it must have not been much to remember......

I can't say that I've ever seen Collazo, but on paper I'd say that Augustus seems to have more experience to handle a guy like Hatton better than Collazo.

Augustus has fought damn near everybody, prospects, champs(ex or now current), contenders, whoever and has been more than competitive against whoever he's fought too. with the exception of a few here and there....

I'd rather watch Augustus fight Hatton over Callazo because I know that fight would be an instant classic....... and another classic fight in Augustsus's resume.........plus I know what kind of fight Augustus brings to the ring, I don't know the fight style of Collazo, I can't say I've seen him.........cause if I had seen him fight it must have not been much to remember......

Collazo is not a bad fighter, he's just not a brawler. He picks his shots and uses distance. It's just that not a lot of people know who he is. Not a lot of casual fans know much about Hatton over here either, and I don't think it will do big ratings.

There's a cult following for Augustus, and Ricky would benifit from having those fans see him fight. He's everything they'd like, and his style vs Augustus' style would be fire works.

Augustus loves to fight in a phone booth, he has great chin, and he'll trade all night long.

Hatton is sharper and hits harder, so it's a very winable fight for him in front of more fans.

It would do him a lot of good to have a fight like Ward-Augustus which plays over and over on ESPN Classics.

yup a fight with a known tough FAN FAVORITE would have been a good coming to America fight for Ricky, for sure all those fans seeing the fight may become hos fans after, but i guess this wont happen just seen in another thread the other fight is done..

The talk about a fight with Gatti at some point down the road was very interesting.

What a war that would be! :eek:

How anyone can think that's a walk in the park for Hatton is way beyond me. I think people really need to get their heads out of their asses...and realize Augustus is not a pushover.

augustus. i luv this guy. no ones ever really wooped his ass.all judges and all home town refs hate him. and if he's on his "A" game he would be more than competative stateside or over there.

Augustus does have a history of getting robbed, and I love watching the guy fight. I think he would hang with Hatton. I don't think he would pull it off, though. He would have to dominate to get the decision. If it was close, there's no way the judges would give him the decision. Hatton is the real deal, but Augustus' record is very deceptive... 10 to 15 of those losses could've easily been wins. He's a true competitor.

Augustus is a crowd pleaser and a fan favorite. His fight with Mickey Ward plays once a month over here.

He'd be a great fight for Hatton, because he'd bring a lot of fans to the table, and would look spectactular in the fight he'd put up.


It would not be a great fight dummy...Hatton would annihialte, absolutely ****ing annihilate Burton.

****, just because he goes at it hard for 10 rounds against Ward means he will "put up" against Ricky...wrong.

Like I told you before boy Luis Collazo is a much better fight-
Collazo would easily beat Burton (anyone who disputes this just desont know ****).

Quit licking Burtons balls, Im surpised at you Bozo normally your not into underachievers and waists of talent, snap out of it you sound like those dip**** Gatti fans who thought he would actually compete with Floyd..wake the **** up your smarter then this-luckily for you you have someone who care for you like me to set you straight.

Augustus does have a history of getting robbed, and I love watching the guy fight. I think he would hang with Hatton. I don't think he would pull it off, though. He would have to dominate to get the decision. If it was close, there's no way the judges would give him the decision. Hatton is the real deal, but Augustus' record is very deceptive... 10 to 15 of those losses could've easily been wins. He's a true competitor.


Dead wrong Hitman, you sound like those Gatti fans before the Floyd fight.

I don't think he'd beat Hatton, it's possible, but the bottom line is that more people would watch him than in with Collazo, and it would be a much more thrilling fight.

For Hatton, that accomplishes much more in the big picture to fight in front of more fans in a fight that's sure to be fire works.


Collazo is alot better than you think...he would doiminate Burton...plus your way overrating burton's popularity...he is a cult hero in the sport and that is it.

It would not be a great fight dummy...Hatton would annihialte, absolutely ****ing annihilate Burton.

****, just because he goes at it hard for 10 rounds against Ward means he will "put up" against Ricky...wrong.

Like I told you before boy Luis Collazo is a much better fight-
Collazo would easily beat Burton (anyone who disputes this just desont know ****).

Quit licking Burtons balls, Im surpised at you Bozo normally your not into underachievers and waists of talent, snap out of it you sound like those dip**** Gatti fans who thought he would actually compete with Floyd..wake the **** up your smarter then this-luckily for you you have someone who care for you like me to set you straight.


Scap take your shutthe**** up pills.

You came into my last thread on blast about how the Dorin fight proved Augustus couldn't hang with Hatton, and when I told you he took that fight on two weeks notice you didn't have a lot to say.

Nowhere did I say Augustus would beat Hatton. I said he'd put up an exciting fight and bring many more fans to the table than Collazo. Luis doens't have the punch to keep Hatton off him.


The bottom line is that you're selling Augustus short, becuase you forgot to take your anti prick pills.

When's the guy been seriously hurt? How big of a puncher is Hatton?

If Ben Tackie and a washed up Vince Phillips can hang for 12 with Hatton, you're telling me Augustus gets destroyed?

**** off.

It would be a fantastic fight for the fans, and for Hatton to look good in front of (more of) them.

Collazo is alot better than you think...he would doiminate Burton...plus your way overrating burton's popularity...he is a cult hero in the sport and that is it.


Why do you keep talking about Corutney Burton?

And I never down played Collazo, I just said his style isn't to mix it up, and he doesn't bring any fans to the table.

No one's going to care, and Hatton's agenda in fighting in the US is to garner new fans in North America.

What better way to do that then fight a fan favorite in an exciting fight in front of more fans?

So what is the point of the clip? Are you praising him for fighting 1 minute out of 3? Wow, awesome.

A guy with 30 losses cannot be considered a great or even good fighter any way you slice it. Exciting is one thing, but Augustus is a joke. You can't lose your whole career, then decide you wanna turn it up at the end and stop the clowning around. He talks way too much for a guy who has never beat an above average opponent.

He reminds me of a basketball team that comes close against all the best teams but never beats any of them. That is not a good team.

So what is the point of the clip? Are you praising him for fighting 1 minute out of 3? Wow, awesome.

A guy with 30 losses cannot be considered a great or even good fighter any way you slice it. Exciting is one thing, but Augustus is a joke. You can't lose your whole career, then decide you wanna turn it up at the end and stop the clowning around. He talks way too much for a guy who has never beat an above average opponent.

He reminds me of a basketball team that comes close against all the best teams but never beats any of them. That is not a good team.


Why are you such an idiot?

Where did anyone say antying about 1 minute in that clip? Have you even seen that fight? Yes or no?

It was a good clip from a good fight to show people what his style is like if they haven't seen him.

And nowhere did anyone say anything about him being great.

Stop being a ***** Diego, you contributed nothing to this thread or discussion, you went on being a hatefull freshman yet again.

Have you nothing better to do?

Why are you such an idiot?

Where did anyone say antying about 1 minute in that clip? Have you even seen that fight? Yes or no?

It was a good clip from a good fight to show people what his style is like if they haven't seen him.

And nowhere did anyone say anything about him being great.

Stop being a ***** Diego, you contributed nothing to this thread or discussion, you went on being a hatefull freshman yet again.

Have you nothing better to do?

I'm a soph actually

Junior, but 2nd year of school, if you wanna get technical about it

Scap take your shutthe**** up pills.

You came into my last thread on blast about how the Dorin fight proved Augustus couldn't hang with Hatton, and when I told you he took that fight on two weeks notice you didn't have a lot to say.

Nowhere did I say Augustus would beat Hatton. I said he'd put up an exciting fight and bring many more fans to the table than Collazo. Luis doens't have the punch to keep Hatton off him.


The bottom line is that you're selling Augustus short, becuase you forgot to take your anti prick pills.

When's the guy been seriously hurt? How big of a puncher is Hatton?

If Ben Tackie and a washed up Vince Phillips can hang for 12 with Hatton, you're telling me Augustus gets destroyed?

**** off.

It would be a fantastic fight for the fans, and for Hatton to look good in front of (more of) them.


Oh man Burton v. Hatton would be ****ing fan****ingtastic-god damn what a great ****ing fight...I think Im gonna cum!

How could you tell me to **** off? How could you say this kind of stuff to me, huh (were supposed to be close...like stepcousins)?

Super Burton/Augustus is tough-he can take a good shot, ****ing great we get to watch him impersonate a punching bag, ****ing great.

Luis doesnt have a big enough punch to keep him off but Emanuel BURTON does? Just because your wrong doesnt mean you should be volatile, right?

I dont shy away from your "two week notice" excuse...if Leo Dorin beat Augustus/Burton every minute of every round I dont give a **** how many days he had to train he wont be competive against a much much bigger much much better version...named Ricky Hatton-let alone make for a fantastic fight.

You havent been this wrong ever on this site Bozo...everyone is a ****head once in a while...if I were you I would just forget about Agustus/Burton...the guy is making you look like a terd here.

PS-you thought Gatti was gonna get it on with Lil Floyd didnt you dummy? You little ***** Bozo...remember your mine not because I own you but because I love you.

Oh man Burton v. Hatton would be ****ing fan****ingtastic-god damn what a great ****ing fight...I think Im gonna cum!

How could you tell me to **** off? How could you say this kind of stuff to me, huh (were supposed to be close...like stepcousins)?

Super Burton/Augustus is tough-he can take a good shot, ****ing great we get to watch him impersonate a punching bag, ****ing great.

Luis doesnt have a big enough punch to keep him off but Emanuel BURTON does? Just because your wrong doesnt mean you should be volatile, right?

I dont shy away from your "two week notice" excuse...if Leo Dorin beat Augustus/Burton every minute of every round I dont give a **** how many days he had to train he wont be competive against a much much bigger much much better version...named Ricky Hatton-let alone make for a fantastic fight.

You havent been this wrong ever on this site Bozo...everyone is a ****head once in a while...if I were you I would just forget about Agustus/Burton...the guy is making you look like a terd here.

PS-you thought Gatti was gonna get it on with Lil Floyd didnt you dummy? You little ***** Bozo...remember your mine not because I own you but because I love you.

Even punching bags don't get hit that much

Oh man Burton v. Hatton would be ****ing fan****ingtastic-god damn what a great ****ing fight...I think Im gonna cum!

How could you tell me to **** off? How could you say this kind of stuff to me, huh (were supposed to be close...like stepcousins)?

Super Burton/Augustus is tough-he can take a good shot, ****ing great we get to watch him impersonate a punching bag, ****ing great.

Luis doesnt have a big enough punch to keep him off but Emanuel BURTON does? Just because your wrong doesnt mean you should be volatile, right?

I dont shy away from your "two week notice" excuse...if Leo Dorin beat Augustus/Burton every minute of every round I dont give a **** how many days he had to train he wont be competive against a much much bigger much much better version...named Ricky Hatton-let alone make for a fantastic fight.

You havent been this wrong ever on this site Bozo...everyone is a ****head once in a while...if I were you I would just forget about Agustus/Burton...the guy is making you look like a terd here.

PS-you thought Gatti was gonna get it on with Lil Floyd didnt you dummy? You little ***** Bozo...remember your mine not because I own you but because I love you.



See what happens when you don't take your meds?

Collazo isn't a good fight for Hatton, in terms of style, excitment, or the amount of people it will bring.

Augustus is everyone of those things for Hatton, and your childish hate for a guy who puts on a fantastic fight everytime he's on TV only makes you look like a suspect fan.

Augustus is in an exciting fight everytime he's on TV, and he'd fight Hatton in a phone booth.

You already said he'd get destroyed, and I told you, just like Tackie and Phillips did huh?


Not liking Augustus is just like not liking Ward or Gatti. There's something wrong with you.

Even punching bags don't get hit that much


What Augustus fights have you seen.

Name them.

Even punching bags don't get hit that much

Have you ever ****ing seen Augustus fight?

Mayweather, Rangel, Oliveira, Dorin, and a 3 or 4 rounds of the Ward fight. Also saw his fight before Oliveira, don't remember the opponent, but he was doing the drunken master ****.

Have you ever ****ing seen Augustus fight?

yes, he gets hit a LOT

Have you ever ****ing seen Augustus fight?

I think he's full of ****.

Did you see what he said about the Ward clip earlier? And then all of a sudden he's "seen a few rounds" from that fight. :rolleyes:

****, his last fight out Rangel was owning him the first 4-5 rounds. I thought it was pathetic, even for Augustus. Judah KO'ed Rangel in what, 4 seconds?

****, his last fight out Rangel was owning him the first 4-5 rounds. I thought it was pathetic, even for Augustus. Judah KO'ed Rangel in what, 4 seconds?


You're an idiot, and you've proven over and over you don't have any idea how rounds are scored.

He started slow in that fight, and then came on and stopped his man.

I think he's full of ****.

Did you see what he said about the Ward clip earlier? And then all of a sudden he's "seen a few rounds" from that fight. :rolleyes:

I'm 100% convinced:

Everyone who's talking trash has never seen Augustus fight at all, seen him fight once, or are basing their opinions on his record they checked on boxrec.

****, his last fight out Rangel was owning him the first 4-5 rounds. I thought it was pathetic, even for Augustus. Judah KO'ed Rangel in what, 4 seconds?

Since you're such a proponent of guys putting on quality shows against good fighters....

I think you'll benefit from watching Floyd v.s. Augustus.

He more than held his own and you can take that to the bank.

See what happens when you don't take your meds?

Collazo isn't a good fight for Hatton, in terms of style, excitment, or the amount of people it will bring.

Augustus is everyone of those things for Hatton, and your childish hate for a guy who puts on a fantastic fight everytime he's on TV only makes you look like a suspect fan.

Augustus is in an exciting fight everytime he's on TV, and he'd fight Hatton in a phone booth.

You already said he'd get destroyed, and I told you, just like Tackie and Phillips did huh?


Not liking Augustus is just like not liking Ward or Gatti. There's something wrong with you.

I wish Augustus was fighting Hatton now...you would look like a piece of **** after it was over trying to tell people that Hatton 10-0 shutout at the time of the stoppage was alot closer then it appeared.

Again, this is as bad as you have looked on this site Bozo, easily-you can agree with me hear. Let me know how I can let you save face here buddy?

Oh by the way just because I thought Floyd would make Gatti look like a joke does not mean I dislike a guy like Arturo, I dont I ****ing love him but just like with Augustus and ARturo I see there huge weaknesses, keep turning your head at them...man thats wierd you usually dont do this.

I'm 100% convinced:

Everyone who's talking trash has never seen Augustus fight at all, seen him fight once, or are basing their opinions on his record they checked on boxrec.


Except Scappy, I know he's seen him fight I just don't get what his issue is.

Apparently when Ward vs Gatti was announced he had a hissy fit because he wanted to see Gatti fight Chris 'the Mechanic' Smith, and thought Ward was pure trash.

I'm 100% convinced:

Everyone who's talking trash has never seen Augustus fight at all, seen him fight once, or are basing their opinions on his record they checked on boxrec.


Your looking at a Emanuel Burton expert here son, dont lump me in with the rest and dont bad mouth me like Bozo simply because I believe he will get absolutely throttled againstht ebest 140 pounder in the enitre world.

Remember its all about love here.

I wish Augustus was fighting Hatton now...you would look like a piece of **** after it was over trying to tell people that Hatton 10-0 shutout at the time of the stoppage was alot closer then it appeared.

Again, this is as bad as you have looked on this site Bozo, easily-you can agree with me hear. Let me know how I can let you save face here buddy?

Oh by the way just because I thought Floyd would make Gatti look like a joke does not mean I dislike a guy like Arturo, I dont I ****ing love him but just like with Augustus and ARturo I see there huge weaknesses, keep turning your head at them...man thats wierd you usually dont do this.


I don't know if it's the ADD, but you continue to illustrate how you're not only missing the point, but tripping over it.

Augustus would make for an exciting fight, and would bring more fans (who like exciting fights) to the table. Those people would be impressed with Ricky, and would wathc him again.

Not many people will watch him fight Collazo, and when he beats him, no one's going to care.


So if he's going to beat both Collazo and Augustus, why choose the one who will be a more boring fight, in front of less fans?

Augustus puts up a good fight, and that's the bottom line here for Hatton. He wants to be in fights that will garner him new fans, and this does that tenfold.

Your looking at a Emanuel Burton expert here son, dont lump me in with the rest and dont bad mouth me like Bozo simply because I believe he will get absolutely throttled againstht ebest 140 pounder in the enitre world.

Remember its all about love here.

First off.....whatever.

Secondly: JLC is at 140 now chief. Lets not rush to say Hatton is the absolute best at that weight.

And don't give me that "who has he fought at 140" bull****. Save it please.

Except Scappy, I know he's seen him fight I just don't get what his issue is.

Apparently when Ward vs Gatti was announced he wanted had a hissy fit because he wanted to see Gatti fight Chris 'the Mechanic' Smith, and thought Ward was pure trash.


Actrually when I first realized that Ward vs. Gatti was signed I ws getting head from a gilr back in college...I remember feeling horrible at the time not because the fight got signed but because I was cheating on my girlfriend who then became my wife...thanks for bringing it up ****head.

As for the fight, I thought to myself...GREAT MATCHMAKING...a couple of fringe contenders that are tailor made for each other.

To compare (if thats what your doing) Gatti vs. Ward to Hatton vs. Burton shows me that you again are being a ****head...give into me Bozo-you always push me around but this time with this fight Im just the bigger kid here.

First off.....whatever.

Secondly: JLC is at 140 now chief. Lets not rush to say Hatton is the absolute best at that weight.

And don't give me that "who has he fought at 140" bull****. Save it please.


JLC is my favorite fighter (easily) but to be the man he must beat the man, right boy?

JLC is my favorite fighter (easily) but to be the man he must beat the man, right boy?

Nope.

I don't buy into that line of thinking. That totally discredits the idea that styles make fights, and I hate Ring Magazine.

I don't know if it's the ADD, but you continue to illustrate how you're not only missing the point, but tripping over it.

Augustus would make for an exciting fight, and would bring more fans (who like exciting fights) to the table. Those people would be impressed with Ricky, and would wathc him again.

Not many people will watch him fight Collazo, and when he beats him, no one's going to care.


So if he's going to beat both Collazo and Augustus, why choose the one who will be a more boring fight, in front of less fans?

Augustus puts up a good fight, and that's the bottom line here for Hatton. He wants to be in fights that will garner him new fans, and this does that tenfold.

Collazo is not going to run away from Hatton, he will have no choice but to fight him...have you seen him win the title agains tJose River...pretty ****ing good scrap there pal, right?

Hatton cant possibly be in a bad fight with his style therefore give me the better fightier which at this point is clearly Collazo.

SERIOUS QUESTION...where is the fight? If it is on the East coast Collazo is from Brooklyn and would draw a pretty damn big crowd. You make it sound like Burton is a huge draw...he is a cult fighter and has a cult following-thats it.

Where is this fight going to be held?

Nope.

I don't buy into that line of thinking. That totally discredits the idea that styles make fights, and I hate Ring Magazine.


You cant try and out weird me spoon...when Im wierd I do it to get a rise out of people, I do it for fun.

Your doing it because you simply are confused...knock it off Spoon. That is if you are being wierd...the other option is that you tried to make sense and it just didnt work out...Ill let you off the hook this time...you were just ebing wierd.

You cant try and out weird me spoon...when Im wierd I do it to get a rise out of people, I do it for fun.

Your doing it because you simply are confused...knock it off Spoon. That is if you are being wierd...the other option is that you tried to make sense and it just didnt work out...Ill let you off the hook this time...you were just ebing wierd.

This is a matter of you being a boxing conformist ****. Quit buying into what everyone tells you scap....and try and think for yourself for once in your life.

This is a matter of you being a boxing conformist ****. Quit buying into what everyone tells you scap....and try and think for yourself for once in your life.


Dont you dare talk to me like my wife does, dont you ****ing dare.

She has put a lot of hours on my **** to be able to speak with me like that...a lot of ****ing hours spoon.

Your gettin there but your not in her league-now why cant you just tell me you love me (at least say Im cute) and then we can move the **** on.

Dont you dare talk to me like my wife does, dont you ****ing dare.

She has put a lot of hours on my **** to be able to speak with me like that...a lot of ****ing hours spoon.

Your gettin there but your not in her league-now why cant you just tell me you love me (at least say Im cute) and then we can move the **** on.

Fact Pilgrim.

Hatton's 1 victory that gives him the supposed right to be called "the best 140 pounder" came over a guy who needed new wheels on his chair...and batteries for his pacemaker.

Lets not get all trigger happy and newsflash: I'll type however I want scappie. That's my style.

Oh and you already know I love you so quit being a little *****.

Fact Pilgrim.

Hatton's 1 victory that gives him the supposed right to be called "the best 140 pounder" came over a guy who needed new wheels on his chair...and batteries for his pacemaker.

Lets not get all trigger happy and newsflash: I'll type however I want scappie. That's my style.

Oh and you already know I love you so quit being a little *****.


You dont know how this has soothed my soul...ooooh that ****in feels good!

So I take it you were one of the few that new Hatton was gonna beat my man Zoo?

So I take it you were one of the few that new Hatton was gonna beat my man Zoo?

Actually I picked Tszyu to win the fight.

Simply because I wasn't prepared to deal with the idea - a guy who fought his first five fights in the States and never returned.....would beat a guy who mortar shelled good opposition. I was in the same boat with the Calzaghe v.s. Lacy deal but whatever.

Those two instances are few and far between on a global scale.

I'm not about to consider the U.K. the mecca of boxing.

Hatton cant possibly be in a bad fight with his style therefore give me the better fightier which at this point is clearly Collazo.



You keep saying that because you don't want to admit you're hatefull towards Augustus for little reason.

When Hatton first announced he was coming over here to fight a few tune ups, his big plan was to fight Gatti. Fresh off a battering from Floyd, that sure makes a lot of sense (according to your logic) doesnt' it?

And WHY it makes sense is because he said he was coming over here to fight a few tune ups in front of American fans to build a following and to set up big audiences in bigger fights. He was thinking Gatti, because he knows with his style it would be a balls out fight in front of a lot of fans.

Sound like someone else we've been talking about?

Nothing you can say about Collazo changes the fact he won't bring nearly the amount of fans to the table that Augustus would, or that it will be close to the entertainment level.

You're just not getting that some times, when it's not exactly going to be an important fight no matter who the opponent is, that the fans just want to see the best fights possible.

You keep saying that because you don't want to admit you're hatefull towards Augustus for little reason.

When Hatton first announced he was coming over here to fight a few tune ups, his big plan was to fight Gatti. Fresh off a battering from Floyd, that sure makes a lot of sense (according to your logic) doesnt' it?

And WHY it makes sense is because he said he was coming over here to fight a few tune ups in front of American fans to build a following and to set up big audiences in bigger fights. He was thinking Gatti, because he knows with his style it would be a balls out fight in front of a lot of fans.

Sound like someone else we've been talking about?

Nothing you can say about Collazo changes the fact he won't bring nearly the amount of fans to the table that Augustus would, or that it will be close to the entertainment level.

You're just not getting that some times, when it's not exactly going to be an important fight no matter who the opponent is, that the fans just want to see the best fights possible.

you make Burton out to be Oscar Delhoya in terms of his marketability...dont do that.

Also i just checked and the fight is in Boston, dam close to Collazo's hoemtown...Collazo will have a huge following Bozo-like it or not.

I cant argue with you anymore-you have made me look bad enough for one day.

you make Burton out to be Oscar Delhoya in terms of his marketability...dont do that.

Also i just checked and the fight is in Boston, dam close to Collazo's hoemtown...Collazo will have a huge following Bozo-like it or not.

I cant argue with you anymore-you have made me look bad enough for one day.

His name is Augustus now, I don't know if you're too dense, or don't know the differnce between he and Courtney Burton,

but the fact is Hatton Augustus would be a much more entertaining fight and you know it. You just don't want to say it because you don't like being proved wrong.

And who cares how close it is to Brooklyn, that doesn't change what the TV rating would be like nation wide.

No matrer how you want to spin it by making dramatic statements about Augustus being Oscar, Augustus brings a much bigger audience than Collazo. Period.

Augustus is trash. Put Hatton in with a guy that at least COULD win.

His name is Augustus now, I don't know if you're too dense, or don't know the differnce between he and Courtney Burton,

but the fact is Hatton Augustus would be a much more entertaining fight and you know it. You just don't want to say it because you don't like being proved wrong.

And who cares how close it is to Brooklyn, that doesn't change what the TV rating would be like nation wide.

No matrer how you want to spin it by making dramatic statements about Augustus being Oscar, Augustus brings a much bigger audience than Collazo. Period.

You mean we werent talking about Courtney Burton? Oh **** I feel so dumb.

If Emanuel Burton brings a much bigger audience then Collazo then what the hell is Ricky thinking?

Again you dummy your getting an ESPN cult following mixed up with HBO and Showtime championship boxing...Ricky is the draw plain and simple and the ratings wont move much regardless of who he fights on SHO or HBO.

Still dont understand why you are dying for this fight-I love Burton as much as the next guy (I bet I like him just as much as you) but I recognize the guy is not an elite level fighter...Luis Collazo is in the process of at the very lest trying to porve that...plus you are overselling this fight so much its ridiculous...

Emanuel Burton has spent the majority of his career going thru the motions-this cannot be denied...it is too late for him, sorry Bozo/Emanuel step the **** aside.

Oh and I think Ive said this ten times already...Collazo will provide the bettter fight dip****!

Augustus is trash. Put Hatton in with a guy that at least COULD win.

Augustus is not trash. Garbage is more like it.

Augustus is a fight fan's fighter. The only strike against him to the casual observer is his record. Ward got his shot with Gatti so why can't Augustus get his chance in the spotlight?

You mean we werent talking about Courtney Burton? Oh **** I feel so dumb.

If Emanuel Burton brings a much bigger audience then Collazo then what the hell is Ricky thinking?

Again you dummy your getting an ESPN cult following mixed up with HBO and Showtime championship boxing...Ricky is the draw plain and simple and the ratings wont move much regardless of who he fights on SHO or HBO.

Still dont understand why you are dying for this fight-I love Burton as much as the next guy (I bet I like him just as much as you) but I recognize the guy is not an elite level fighter...Luis Collazo is in the process of at the very lest trying to porve that...plus you are overselling this fight so much its ridiculous...

Emanuel Burton has spent the majority of his career going thru the motions-this cannot be denied...it is too late for him, sorry Bozo/Emanuel step the **** aside.

Oh and I think Ive said this ten times already...Collazo will provide the bettter fight dip****!



You're so childish you can't even refer to the guy by his propper name. That speaks for itself.

You really need to take your meds, because if you think Hatton will bring fans to the table on his own, you're outright wrong. That's exactly why he was considering Gatti for this fight earlier.

You're wrong about the extra viewers Augustus would bring, and you're hating on the guy for no reason.

Collazo isn't going to bring fans to the table, and he won't put up anywhere near the fight Augustus will.

At first, you were speaking out of ignorance. Now you're just repeating yourself because you're a child. Grow up.

It's a clear as day who would be the better fight bringing a bigger audience.

I've seen Augustus fight several times. While it would be an entertaining fight against Hatton, there is no reason whatsoever for Hatton to take it. Augustus is not a household name or a big draw. And he is a risk. Especially if he decides to put on one of his ROFL-dancing performances. Nobody can emulate that or prepare you for it. Hatton could come forward through it and handle Augustus easily, I'm sure. But why should he?

Augustus is a cool fighter, and I really like to watch him fight, but unfortunately he is MUCH better than his terrible record -and therefore is not going to get any top fights without devoting himself to one sanctioning body, and working his way up their ranking to get into an eliminator situation. Top fighters do not like to fight a guy with that poor of a record, because it's a lose-lose situation. If you bring a dollars to the fight, then maybe... but Augustus, while a cult-favorite, is not a significant enough draw to override his record and the style-risk any fighter that fights him takes.

Augustus is not a household name or a big draw. And he is a risk.


He's ten times the house hold name and draw Collazo is, and is no more dangerous than Gatti, who was at the top of Haton's wish list at the begining of this year.

He would bring a significant number more viewers to the table, and that was prority for Hatton in taking a fight in the US.

well, i skipped a thread, but the only thing i can disagree with bozo on is that it would make ricky hatton look good. it is damn near impossible to look good against a guy so unpredictable and slick. remember, this is the guy who landed two ****ing punches at once. anybody see other fighters do that? even against "bums"?

if the ricky does get the balls to fight augustus, i will tell you now, it will not be an easy fight. emanuel is pissed about the **** that went down in the tszyu fight, sees a chance to get some straps, and i garauntee that he would be in top form.

i'm not saying that collazo is a bad fighter at all. but people here in america would rather, for the most part i'd say, see him fight augustus instead of luis collazo. it could be marketed so much better with a certain revenge factor involved. it certainly would be more entertaining.

if the collazo/hatton fight is on ppv, i'm definitely not buying it. that **** better be free for me to watch.

I LOVE Augustus- let me get that out of the way- and I think the guy, as a dedicated fighter, spotty record and all, deserves a break and a good payday as much as anyone. I understand him calling out Hatton, trying to get some paychecks because he realizes the timeline of his career has gone past its apex.

And, while I think he'd bring an interesting fight to Hatton, with Augustus record and style and the way Hatton has largely been coddled for most of his career- well, there isnt a shot in Hell of Augustus getting a chance, even at Hatton in a tuneup. Barring two or three straight performances against impressive opponents, he's not going to get a shot at anyone even near the top ten unless he's a last minute replacement (again) or something.

I don't believe this thread has got so long - Collazo isn't the ideal fight for Hatton, but Augustus, no, no, no, no, no! I don't care about him landing two punches at once, leave that stuff at the circus and take your career a bit more seriously and he might have been wearing the straps himself.

From the interviews I've read this Augustus bloke seems like a ridiculous character and I don't believe he's still attracting attention.

I don't believe this thread has got so long - Collazo isn't the ideal fight for Hatton, but Augustus, no, no, no, no, no! I don't care about him landing two punches at once, leave that stuff at the circus and take your career a bit more seriously and he might have been wearing the straps himself.

From the interviews I've read this Augustus bloke seems like a ridiculous character and I don't believe he's still attracting attention.


Coming from someone who hasn't even seen one of his fights this means absolutley nothing. Speaking about something you have no knowledge of is the definition of ignorance.

He's ten times the house hold name and draw Collazo is, and is no more dangerous than Gatti, who was at the top of Haton's wish list at the begining of this year.

He would bring a significant number more viewers to the table, and that was prority for Hatton in taking a fight in the US.


Neither guy is a household name son.

You are simply talking out of your ass when you talk about Burton being the much bigger draw...you have no clue here son and neither do I. (I can admit things you...you cant)

Burton is from Texas and Collazo is from Brooklyn....the fight is on the east coast...have you ever been to a Collazo fight on the east coast to see what his drawing power is like-does he have a big contingent or a baby one? Showtime and HBO basically have as close to a set rating for their champoionship fights as set can get (excluding PPV obviously dummy)...having Hatton fight Burton is just going to skyrocket the ratings huh? If this was the case how come Burton isnt selected more often on the 2 big networks? (KO NATION was the last time he was seen on these networks disphit)

You have never looked dumber @BS lobbying for this fight...you act like Burton is Gatti in terms of a draw....Collazo is a great oppoenent for Hatton's first match in the states and you would be hardpressed to talk with boxing scribes who disagree with that.

Never looked dumber Bozo and you know it...keep defending yourself, keep defending Burton...you dont look like a ****head often but I have to say Im enjoying this dumb****.

I'm calling for a hit to be placed on this thread!

Augutus is talented, but not worth Hattons while.

Coming from someone who hasn't even seen one of his fights this means absolutley nothing. Speaking about something you have no knowledge of is the definition of ignorance.


When you say Collazo is not the draw that Burton is how do you know? I WANT YOU TO EXPLAIN TO ME YOUR KNOWLEDGE HERE.

If you are stating something that you dont really have a ****ing clue about isnt that ignorance too?

The fight is in boston-you have no clue who the bigger draw is (again neither do I but Im not talking like I do you are)...Burton is an ESPN cult fighter...he is not an HBO or Showtime draw...

Bozo your still looking like a ****head here wake up.

What does he bring to the table for Hatton? what belts? why would it be benifical for Hatton to fight him? beating a guy with all those loses will not give him anymore respect than he already has, regardless of how talented and underrated augstus is, and how many of those ''loses'' were robberies. let augustus earn it.

Burton in 26 fights only has 3 knockouts on his record and two of them are TKO's. The fact is that true boxing fans know Emanuel's talent and know that this fight would be good and entertaining and that is what we want to see. I'd watch it for sure.

Hatton shouldnt be fighting Augustus just cos he's an entertaining fighter. Augustus would probably just play act his way through the whole thing. You need to EARN your shot at the world champ and Augustus hasnt done that. ****, I could be entertaining against Hatton and I'd fight him for 45,000 - does that mean I get the fight? Collazo is a good first fight in the states as it's another belt at another weight, puts him back in the same weight class as PBF and the IBF wouldnt sanction Torres which would have been a ****ing exciting fight

Hatton shouldnt be fighting Augustus just cos he's an entertaining fighter. Augustus would probably just play act his way through the whole thing. You need to EARN your shot at the world champ and Augustus hasnt done that. ****, I could be entertaining against Hatton and I'd fight him for 45,000 - does that mean I get the fight? Collazo is a good first fight in the states as it's another belt at another weight, puts him back in the same weight class as PBF and the IBF wouldnt sanction Torres which would have been a ****ing exciting fight

Your absolutely right-you or I could be exciting against Hatton...with his style anyone can...even Oliver McCall during a breakdwon could be exciting against the face first Ricky Hatton.

Burton in 26 fights only has 3 knockouts on his record and two of them are TKO's. The fact is that true boxing fans know Emanuel's talent and know that this fight would be good and entertaining and that is what we want to see. I'd watch it for sure.


You'd watch it for sure...fight fans would watch any fight that includes Ricky Hatton he is as "must see tv" as any fighter in the game.

I can't believe we're not moving forwards with this one. Forget ignorance, I'm NOT COMMENTING ON HIS ABILITIES, even though I am about to watch a few of his fights so that this pointless line of argument can cease and you can listen to my reason.

Augustus isn't the fight to position Hatton for the big shots against Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley etc. Collazo isn't ideal but a pretty good choice considering. If you insist on thinking like a closeted hardcore fight fan rather than someone with one foot in the wider world you'll never appreciate how obvious this is, but believe me mate, it is pretty obvious.

If you could prove how Augustus brings in a 20,000 gate for each fight and is known by the US public at large than I'd reconsider my 'ignorant opinion' about matters where none of us have all the relevant facts cos those 'facts' don't exist.

Neither guy is a household name son.

You are simply talking out of your ass when you talk about Burton being the much bigger draw...you have no clue here son and neither do I. (I can admit things you...you cant)

Burton is from Texas and Collazo is from Brooklyn....the fight is on the east coast...have you ever been to a Collazo fight on the east coast to see what his drawing power is like-does he have a big contingent or a baby one? Showtime and HBO basically have as close to a set rating for their champoionship fights as set can get (excluding PPV obviously dummy)...having Hatton fight Burton is just going to skyrocket the ratings huh? If this was the case how come Burton isnt selected more often on the 2 big networks? (KO NATION was the last time he was seen on these networks disphit)

You have never looked dumber @BS lobbying for this fight...you act like Burton is Gatti in terms of a draw....Collazo is a great oppoenent for Hatton's first match in the states and you would be hardpressed to talk with boxing scribes who disagree with that.

Never looked dumber Bozo and you know it...keep defending yourself, keep defending Burton...you dont look like a ****head often but I have to say Im enjoying this dumb****.


The lengths you're typing to to fell better about being called on your bull **** is getting quite funny.

Augustus brings a much bigger TV audience, Period. This isn't debatable, and suggesting othewise makes you more pathetic than you're already looking.

You've been torn to shreds here Scap, it's time to let it go, take your pills, and have a nap.

If you're upset, just do what you did the first time we talked. Threaten to follow me around waiting for me to slip up. Remember that? :D

The lengths you're typing to to fell better about being called on your bull **** is getting quite funny.

Augustus brings a much bigger TV audience, Period. This isn't debatable, and suggesting othewise makes you more pathetic than you're already looking.

You've been torn to shreds here Scap, it's time to let it go, take your pills, and have a nap.

If you're upset, just do what you did the first time we talked. Threaten to follow me around waiting for me to slip up. Remember that? :D


Hey buddy I was waiting for you to cum callin...

I have to admit your smarter and a better student of the game then I realized but listening to you talk about how "fantastic" a Burton vs. Hatton fight would be and how big of a draw he would be has just got me going.

You have no clue how big a draw Burton is...just because he gets Joe Tessitore excited on Friday Night Fights does not mean he belongs on HBO or Showtime fighting the undisputed Champ.

I guess I'll just take your word for it you dip**** even though you have zero to back it up with...Burton on HBO or Showtime brtinging a bigger crowd to a Hatton fight, hahahahahahahahahah you still wont concede that your wrong-sometimes you get more credibility by giving a bit dummy.

Your my **** ***** betty...Burton vs. Hatton "fantastic"...dumb.

Hey buddy I was waiting for you to cum callin...

I have to admit your smarter and a better student of the game then I realized but listening to you talk about how "fantastic" a Burton vs. Hatton fight would be and how big of a draw he would be has just got me going.

You have no clue how big a draw Burton is...just because he gets Joe Tessitore excited on Friday Night Fights does not mean he belongs on HBO or Showtime fighting the undisputed Champ.

I guess I'll just take your word for it you dip**** even though you have zero to back it up with...Burton on HBO or Showtime brtinging a bigger crowd to a Hatton fight, hahahahahahahahahah you still wont concede that your wrong-sometimes you get more credibility by giving a bit dummy.

Your my **** ***** betty...Burton vs. Hatton "fantastic"...dumb.


This is the bottom line:

A) You denied Augustus would be an exciting fight for the fans

B) You won't admit he'd bring more fans to the table than Collazo.

Any way you look at it, that's utter non sense, and now you're just typing away trying to spare yourself from admitting your wrong.

Your unhealthy hate for Augustus, a guy who gives the fans everyting they want to see when he steps in the ring, really makes me wonder about you and why you're watching boxing.

That's it, I'm fed up.

Give me your cell number.

The cell number has been delivered, I await your phone call.

The cell number has been delivered, I await your phone call.


You just made a grave mistake my friend.

Mwhahahahahahahahahaaaaa.... :firedevil

You just made a grave mistake my friend.

Mwhahahahahahahahahaaaaa.... :firedevil


I dont think so...for some reason I trust you...now give me a call dummy!

Make sure to share the wedding photos, guys.

Make sure to share the wedding photos, guys.


Much appreciated Turkey...I mean that.

Cmon Bozo I have a meeting at 1pm, show some repsect and call your uncle while he has a little down time.

Im waiting!

Im still waiting-why cant we talk boxing over the phone...Im not gonna bite you...your gonna find out Im a high quality son of a *****!

The only reason why you dont call me is if your an 11 year old girl...if that is the case the I understand why you wont call me...do you have big tits bozo?

CALL ME!

Im still waiting-why cant we talk boxing over the phone...Im not gonna bite you...your gonna find out Im a high quality son of a *****!

The only reason why you dont call me is if your an 11 year old girl...if that is the case the I understand why you wont call me...do you have big tits bozo?

CALL ME!


Keep dreaming Scappy. Just sit there and watch the phone. Someone's bound to call you eventually, even if it's just a wrong number.

You dumb Canadian just dial the #...

What would be a reason for you not to call?

You dumb Canadian just dial the #...

What would be a reason for you not to call? :mad:


Is that what you say to the ladies as well? ;)

Oh man, this place is fun.

Is that what you say to the ladies as well? ;)


Actually that was a line that I uased to corner the *****es with...the response I used to get is as follows

SCAP "What would be a reason for you not to call sweatheart?"

Sweatheart "Well, for instacne if you fill me full of you man meat and I tear I doubt I will call"

Usually that is how it went...

So like I say to all my *****es-your no exception Bozo :why arent you gonna call me?

There is a reason Augustus has only had two-odd weeks notice for a lot of his fights- he's never a first-choice fighter. Clearly someone who fills in for injured boxers etc, how is Hatton's stock going to rise by fighting someone like that? At least with Collazo he is fighting someone young with something to prove, and stepping up a weight to the (at the moment) superior division gives a clear signal of his intent: He's gonna be a two-weight champion, and although belts are a moot point in comparison to the prestige of a large fight, it says to me that he's more than prepared to challenge in that division as well, and not be left behind in light-welter.

There is a reason Augustus has only had two-odd weeks notice for a lot of his fights- he's never a first-choice fighter. Clearly someone who fills in for injured boxers etc, how is Hatton's stock going to rise by fighting someone like that? At least with Collazo he is fighting someone young with something to prove, and stepping up a weight to the (at the moment) superior division gives a clear signal of his intent: He's gonna be a two-weight champion, and although belts are a moot point in comparison to the prestige of a large fight, it says to me that he's more than prepared to challenge in that division as well, and not be left behind in light-welter.

How the **** can you argue with this, nice post!

There is a reason Augustus has only had two-odd weeks notice for a lot of his fights- he's never a first-choice fighter. Clearly someone who fills in for injured boxers etc, how is Hatton's stock going to rise by fighting someone like that? At least with Collazo he is fighting someone young with something to prove, and stepping up a weight to the (at the moment) superior division gives a clear signal of his intent: He's gonna be a two-weight champion, and although belts are a moot point in comparison to the prestige of a large fight, it says to me that he's more than prepared to challenge in that division as well, and not be left behind in light-welter.


Because Hatton's MO is to gain new fans in North America. The bottom line is that Collazo brings nothing to that agenda.

Not to mention his title is a joke.

How the **** can you argue with this, nice post!

i just personally dont think he has anything to gain in this fight as far as respect or accolades therefore the sole pupose of it should be to garner attention and if that is the sole purpose then obviously he needs to fight the most POPULAR opponent not one that necessarily deserves it.

its kinda like how toney got to fight rahman before maskaev, that what people want to see, why jerk around with this unknown collazo (maskaev)

i just personally dont think he has anything to gain in this fight as far as respect or accolades therefore the sole pupose of it should be to garner attention and if that is the sole purpose then obviously he needs to fight the most POPULAR opponent not one that necessarily deserves it.

its kinda like how toney got to fight rahman before maskaev, that what people want to see, why jerk around with this unknown collazo (maskaev)


We just look at it differently.

Ricky Hatton fighting insided the United States isgoing to garner all the attention in the world from real boxing fans period.

People who tune into HBO and Showtime for big league fights tune in for just that big league fights...the fact that Ricky Hatton is fighting Emanule Agustus is not going to bring any more fans over to watch then if he was fighting you.

Does Agustus get play on the radio? Does he get play in the newspapers? Is he a household name among casual fight fans?

Agan the simple fact that Ricky Hatton has crossed the pond is all the hype this fight needs (he doesnt need Burton-Burton is not Gatti)...plus he is fighting a guy in pretty much the other guys backyard...this is a nice little matchup for his first fight in yankville!

Holy **** I am sitting in a starbucks right now and guess what I just heard...there were these two guys talking and one said, "hey dude did you hear Ricky Hatton is fighting on Showtime in the states"...the other guy said "who is Ricky Hatton?"...."some white guy that supposed to be pretty tough thats all I really know"...."who's this white guy fighting?" ..."thats the best part of this deal dude, he's fighting Emanuel Augustus!"...."no ****ing way-looks like were havin a keg dude!"

No one outside of our little ****ing cult group gives a rats ass about Emanuel Burton!

We just look at it differently.

Ricky Hatton fighting insided the United States isgoing to garner all the attention in the world from real boxing fans period.

People who tune into HBO and Showtime for big league fights tune in for just that big league fights...the fact that Ricky Hatton is fighting Emanule Agustus is not going to bring any more fans over to watch then if he was fighting you.

Does Agustus get play on the radio? Does he get play in the newspapers? Is he a household name among casual fight fans?

Agan the simple fact that Ricky Hatton has crossed the pond is all the hype this fight needs (he doesnt need Burton-Burton is not Gatti)...plus he is fighting a guy in pretty much the other guys backyard...this is a nice little matchup for his first fight in yankville!

Holy **** I am sitting in a starbucks right now and guess what I just heard...there were these two guys talking and one said, "hey dude did you hear Ricky Hatton is fighting on Showtime in the states"...the other guy said "who is Ricky Hatton?"...."some white guy that supposed to be pretty tough thats all I really know"...."who's this white guy fighting?" ..."thats the best part of this deal dude, he's fighting Emanuel Augustus!"...."no ****ing way-looks like were havin a keg dude!"

No one outside of our little ****ing cult group gives a rats ass about Emanuel Burton!


lol, what a joke.

Hatton isn't going to garner big interest just for showing up here. That's outright non sense.

He'll attract the people that know about him and a few more.

In fighting Augustus, he brings the people you mention who'd watch him fight anyway AND all of Augustus' fan base, which is hands down larger than that of Collazo's.

When you add in how it would be a more exciting fight, everything you're trying to put forth just because you want to save face looks like even more non sense.

Let it go Scap, your logic doesn't make sense, and you're only posting because you're sore about it.

can't believe this is still going on. Augustus sucks, let it go. He STRUGGLED against JAMIE RANGEL

lol, what a joke.

Hatton isn't going to garner big interest just for showing up here. That's outright non sense.

He'll attract the people that know about him and a few more.

In fighting Augustus, he brings the people you mention who'd watch him fight anyway AND all of Augustus' fan base, which is hands down larger than that of Collazo's.

When you add in how it would be a more exciting fight, everything you're trying to put forth just because you want to save face looks like even more non sense.

Let it go Scap, your logic doesn't make sense, and you're only posting because you're sore about it.

Is Ricky Hatton's following or at least the people who no about him smaller then that of Agustus?

If Augustus is bigger then Hatton your right he should fight him but what fight fan that you know will tune into this fight not because of Hatton but because of Burton?

Why havent you called me you 11 year old girl?

Is Ricky Hatton's following or at least the people who no about him smaller then that of Agustus?

If Augustus is bigger then Hatton your right he should fight him but what fight fan that you know will tune into this fight not because of Hatton but because of Burton?

Why havent you called me you 11 year old girl?


You're acting like one, so it goes without saying.

Hatton hasn't been on free TV in the US before. He's been on showtime, and there's still a large amount of fans who haven't seen much of him.

The bottom line is that Agusutus is a more popular fighter than Callazo by far, and brings more interest and fans to watch Hatton fight.

This passed the point of it being that simple long ago, and now like an 11 year old girl, you're arguing just to try to avoid admitting you're wrong.

can't believe this is still going on. Augustus sucks, let it go. He STRUGGLED against JAMIE RANGEL


He stopped Rangel.

You have no business providing an opinion, becuase you never know what you're talking about.

You commmenting on anything to do with scoring rounds or scoring a fight is a joke.

can't believe this is still going on. Augustus sucks, let it go. He STRUGGLED against JAMIE RANGEL

http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~bgamble/webquest/noose.JPG

Use it Cabron.

You're acting like one, so it goes without saying.

Hatton hasn't been on free TV in the US before. He's been on showtime, and there's still a large amount of fans who haven't seen much of him.

The bottom line is that Agusutus is a more popular fighter than Callazo by far, and brings more interest and fans to watch Hatton fight.

This passed the point of it being that simple long ago, and now like an 11 year old girl, you're arguing just to try to avoid admitting you're wrong.


Are you gonna use my cell phone number that I gave you to phone me or are you an 11 year old girl who doesnt want uncle scap to know your an 11 year old girl?

What the **** is the big deal...pick up your phone and dial my number...are you low on minutes?

Bozo-you need to call me...or your just a little ***** right?

Im not looking to fight over the phone Im looking to talk boxing....are you a little *****?

Are you gonna use my cell phone number that I gave you to phone me or are you an 11 year old girl who doesnt want uncle scap to know your an 11 year old girl?

What the **** is the big deal...pick up your phone and dial my number...are you low on minutes?

Bozo-you need to call me...or your just a little ***** right?

Im not looking to fight over the phone Im looking to talk boxing....are you a little *****?

Give me your ****ing cell phone number.

I'll call you nonstop and ***** you out in Spanish, untill you call the F.B.I. or the I.N.S. and have them record the phone conversation.

Give me your ****ing cell phone number.

I'll call you nonstop and ***** you out in Spanish, untill you call the F.B.I. or the I.N.S. and have them record the phone conversation.


I will give anyone my cell # if they are serious about talking boxing...I ****ing eat sleep and hump this sport!

I dont know if what you write above is apporpriate however...let me know if your serious spoon.

Bozo I think it is safe to assume that you are an 11 year old girl with nice tits so I have a few questions for you and I expect an answer out of you regardless of how shy you may be.

1) Do you like anyone from boxingscene?

2) Do you like anyone from boxingscene more than a friend? (myabe someone that has a name that rhymes with crap?)

3) If you had to rate me on a 1-10 scale how cute do you think I am, 1 being but ugly and 10 being Scott Bao type cute.

4) Do you ever tell your girlfriends about me on the playgound playing tag or teather ball-if so what do you tell them about me...I mean us?

5) Does it matter to you that Im an older man?


Call me you queer Im not gonna bite you...what are you hiding? I dont care if your gay...Im all over gay marriage you folks should be allowed to do what you please...call me Im a liberal who isnt gonna judge...even if you are an 11 year old girl with nice tits.

Bozo I think it is safe to assume that you are an 11 year old girl with nice tits


how cute do you think I am

Does it matter to you that Im an older man?


Call me you queer Im not gonna bite you


11 year old girl with nice tits.

hijo es su scap. Tu eres el pinche cucui o que?

You just keep waiting by your phone Scappy. Someone's bound to call eventually. :rolleyes:

Bozo I think it is safe to assume that you are an 11 year old girl with nice tits so I have a few questions for you and I expect an answer out of you regardless of how shy you may be.

1) Do you like anyone from boxingscene?

2) Do you like anyone from boxingscene more than a friend? (myabe someone that has a name that rhymes with crap?)

3) If you had to rate me on a 1-10 scale how cute do you think I am, 1 being but ugly and 10 being Scott Bao type cute.

4) Do you ever tell your girlfriends about me on the playgound playing tag or teather ball-if so what do you tell them about me...I mean us?

5) Does it matter to you that Im an older man?


Call me you queer Im not gonna bite you...what are you hiding? I dont care if your gay...Im all over gay marriage you folks should be allowed to do what you please...call me Im a liberal who isnt gonna judge...even if you are an 11 year old girl with nice tits.


Gay or not. Ladies and gentlemen this what you call getting punked on a boxing post board. Poor Bozo.

can't believe this is still going on. Augustus sucks, let it go. He STRUGGLED against JAMIE RANGEL

Back to boxing, i couldn't agree with you more. Augustus is a joke.

i luv this guy. no ones ever really wooped his ass.all judges and all home town refs hate him. and if he's on his "A" game he would be more than competative stateside or over there.

He stopped Rangel.

You have no business providing an opinion, becuase you never know what you're talking about.

You commmenting on anything to do with scoring rounds or scoring a fight is a joke.

Name-calling is a good sign that you have run out of weapons. *****.

Name-calling is a good sign that you have run out of weapons. *****.


Then you ran out of things to say the day you created your account.

You're an angry college kid who's been watching boxing for a year, and you embarass yourself everytime you speak to someone about "scoring".

Augustus is overrated...

He ain't nothing more than a C level fighter, he may be entertaining, but he has looked average against D level fighters...

Hatton will destroy this guy, flame me if you want, but it is what I believe.

Augustus is overrated...

He ain't nothing more than a C level fighter, he may be entertaining, but he has looked average against D level fighters...

Hatton will destroy this guy, flame me if you want, but it is what I believe.


You couldnt be more right...maybe Augustus is a C+ fighter....maybe.

Augustus is overrated...

He ain't nothing more than a C level fighter, he may be entertaining, but he has looked average against D level fighters...

Hatton will destroy this guy, flame me if you want, but it is what I believe.

mayweather sure don't think he's a third tier boxer.

mayweather sure don't think he's a third tier boxer.


mayweather also thinks judah is the legitimate champion, i dont see the point

can't believe this is still going on. Augustus sucks, let it go. He STRUGGLED against JAMIE RANGEL

Yeah, who the **** is Jamie Rangel?
It's funny how people with Runwithknives can't come back with anything and all they do is post a pic of a hanging rope and say use it.

Just because Fuego is right doesn't mean you have to ****ing cry about it.

Augustus=overrated as ****

He struggled with Rangel and a bunch of other people I have never heard of...

This guy wouldnt last 3 rounds with the Hitman and everybody knows it why would Ricky want this fight when he can make twice the payday with someone like Luis Collazo

He struggled with Rangel and a bunch of other people I have never heard of...

Yes or no question: Did you see that fight?

He did not 'struggle' with Rangel.

Bozo, I've watched a few of Augustus' fights now to completely negate your flimsy argument that not seeing him fight prevents me from having a sensible opinion about the suitability of the fight, (that would NEVER happen!) and from the limited evidence I've seen I'm worried you're a delusional as he is! Almost no chance vs Hatton, he could get seriously hurt in that fight. As for PBF saying it was one of his toughest fights, he talks a lot of sh*t as well. It was only tough in so much it went 9 rounds, 9 rounds of hitting a punchbag.

This guy wouldnt last 3 rounds with the Hitman and everybody knows it why would Ricky want this fight when he can make twice the payday with someone like Luis Collazo


Stop him in 3?

Please.

And Collazo's taking 500 Grand, where Augustus would have fought for a fraction of that, and would have brought a bigger audience.

Bozo, I've watched a few of Augustus' fights now to completely negate your flimsy argument that not seeing him fight prevents me from having a sensible opinion about the suitability of the fight, (that would NEVER happen!) and from the limited evidence I've seen I'm worried you're a delusional as he is! Almost no chance vs Hatton, he could get seriously hurt in that fight. As for PBF saying it was one of his toughest fights, he talks a lot of sh*t as well. It was only tough in so much it went 9 rounds, 9 rounds of hitting a punchbag.


You're completely ignorant, and up Hatton's ass before the conversation even began.

And which fights did you watch?

The Mayweahter fight? Because you wouldn't be saying that if you did. Augustus had Floyd's face looking more beat up than anyone who's fought him.

Anyone who suggests Hatton would blow him out is ignorant.

But you're a step beyond that because you're a nut hugger who's so attached to Hatton that the suggestion of any other fighter being competitive with him makes your ******* tingle.

Seriously, find something else to talk about.

Bozo No No do you really dont know anything about boxing do you c`mon, I dont even like Hatton fighting but anybody with a brain could see that this guy isnt in rickys league and saying that Augustus could generate more interest is just not happening, before you open your mouth why dont you just think about what your saying

Bozo No No do you really dont know anything about boxing do you c`mon, I dont even like Hatton fighting but anybody with a brain could see that this guy isnt in rickys league and saying that Augustus could generate more interest is just not happening, before you open your mouth why dont you just think about what your saying


You just suggested he'd get blown out in 3 rounds. I think that underlines how much you know about what you're trying to say.

And Augustus does bring more fans to the fight than Collazo, that's a no brainer.

You need to think about what you're saying before you call someone else out.

I`ll call who i want out, The fact of the matter is Collazo is a world champion and Augustus hasnt that`s a no brainer my friend, why would Hatton risk what he has just to fight a guy without a belt to his name

I`ll call who i want out, The fact of the matter is Collazo is a world champion and Augustus hasnt that`s a no brainer my friend, why would Hatton risk what he has just to fight a guy without a belt to his name


Collazo is not a champion. Stop it.

And Augustus would have been a good fight because it's a winable fight that would be very explosive in front of the fan base Augustus brings.

He'd look exciting in front of new fans who'd want to see more of him. There's no question Augustus would be a more popular choice and have more people watching.

WBA Welterweight champion enough said you dont know sh*t

http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/467/Jose%20Antonio%20Rivera%20-%20Luis%20Collazo4.jpg

WBA Welterweight champion enough said you dont know sh*t

http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/467/Jose%20Antonio%20Rivera%20-%20Luis%20Collazo4.jpg


You think that belt means anything?

Come off it. You just exposed yourself.

That's a paper title, and everyone knows it. It's meaningles.

I havent exposed anyone except you, you said he wasnt a world champion you were wrong saying augustus would bring more sales you would be wrong you probably watch football or baseball but boxing is a proper sport my friend and you dont know anything about it

I havent exposed anyone except you, you said he wasnt a world champion you were wrong saying augustus would bring more sales you would be wrong you probably watch football or baseball but boxing is a proper sport my friend and you dont know anything about it


Thinking Collazo brings more fans to the table than Augustus is ignorant enough,

but suggesting that title is legitimate is outright laughable.

It was a vacated title that means nothing. Putting stock in bull **** titles is everything that's wrong with boxing.

Sorry, you have no business critisizing anyone else with that logic.

He`s got one more belt than Augustus enough said doesnt matter if it`s a paper belt you have to be ranked in order to fight for it

He`s got one more belt than Augustus enough said doesnt matter if it`s a paper belt you have to be ranked in order to fight for it


It's a meaningless paper title which makes him a "title holder", not a "World Champion".

You know that belt isn't worth a damn.

The point is that Hatton's looking for exposure infront of new North American fans.

the bottom line is that Augustus would bring more fans to the table than Collazo would. It's better exposure in what's sure to be an exciting fight for the fans.

Okay Okay so we disagree on the Title and on the Exposure but c`mon Augustus`s record speaks for itself the guy losses to has beens.

Micky Ward has a very similar style to Hatton except Hatton probably hits alot harder and Ward beat Augustus all around the ring no probs what makes you think Hatton wouldnt stop him within three

Okay Okay so we disagree on the Title and on the Exposure but c`mon Augustus`s record speaks for itself the guy losses to has beens.

Micky Ward has a very similar style to Hatton except Hatton probably hits alot harder and Ward beat Augustus all around the ring no probs what makes you think Hatton wouldnt stop him within three

The fact that Augustus has huge chin, and lesser fighters have lasted with Hatton. Hatton is an accumulation guy who breaks you down. No way does he walk through someone as durable as Augustus. Hatton would surely be favord, but Augustus would put up an exciting fight that would make Hatton look good. It's the same reason Hatton originally wanted to fight Gatti.

I'm not saying Augustus is a world beater, but the bottom line is this:

How many times has Hatton been on TV in the US?

How many times has Collazo been on TV in the US?

How many times has Augustus been on TV in the US?

Augustus has the TV exposure, because he's exciting, and people like to watch him. His fight with Ward is played once a month.

Hatton's taking a fight to tune up, to look impressive in frot of new US fans, and to increase his viewership over here to make future PPV's bigger.

Augustus would fight for a fraction of the purse Collazo wants, brings more fans to the table who'd see Hatton in an exciting fight.

Don't tell me that doesn't make sense to you.

Collazo v Hatton has the making`s of being the best fight of the year skills wise mate

Hatton isnt going to walk through Collazo has easy as he would Augustus thats fact

Collazo v Hatton has the making`s of being the best fight of the year skills wise mate

Hatton isnt going to walk through Collazo has easy as he would Augustus thats fact

You thinking Hatton 'walks through' Augustus is a fact huh?

lol

Come off it. Hatton wants exposure, and Augustus brings more fans to watch and would be a more exciting fight. End of story.

You thinking Hatton 'walks through' Augustus is a fact huh?

lol

Come off it. Hatton wants exposure, and Augustus brings more fans to watch and would be a more exciting fight. End of story.


Your right Augustus has a huge following and would increase the broadcast a ton...man what is Ricky thinking...people in Boston would come out in droves to watch Burton fight Ricky...Showtime's ratings would explode...Im with you Bozo I just cant understand why Emanuel didnt get the nod over this Collazo guy, just cant understand it?

Your an 11 year old girl that is obviously hiding something by not wanting to speak with me...you were the one that said give me your cell #...I did....there is probably something wrong with you that you that would be made evident over the phone.

Call me and prove me wrong...remember if your a girl I dont care, if your gay and you talk with a bit of a limp I dont care...I want to talk boxing with the most argumentative member of Boxingscene...but he doesnt want to talk boxing with me...why?

Your an 11 year old girl-how can I think anything else...remember Im cool with queers too.