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Heckler
03-25-2006, 11:33 PM
Now, im sure my list may be different if i sat and thought about it for a while. But ill slap together a quick list that reflects my general thoughts.

Use whatever criteria you like except head to head (that just stupid).

1)Sugar Ray Robinson
2)Joe Gans
3)Muhammad Ali
4)Roberto Duran
5)Henry Armstrong
6)Joe Louis
7)Harry Greb
8)Sugar Ray Leonard (people will dislike this i know, duran, hagler, hearns - enough said)
9)George Foreman (closest thing to invincible boxing has ever seen IMO)
10)Archie Moore

Verstyle
03-25-2006, 11:35 PM
how come u jus dont add to the millions of threads on here about there top 10 greatest fights or heavyweights. u should search it u will be shocked. there probably 1 somewhere on these pages now

Heckler
03-25-2006, 11:37 PM
Is there one asking you to compile your 10 greatest BOXERS (ANY DIV) using whatever criteria you choose. To give some insight into your thoughts and how you judge boxers?

Yogi
03-26-2006, 12:39 AM
Umm...I don't have a set-in-stone ranking, but my top four would look like this;

1. Sam Langford
2. Sugar Ray Robinson
3. Harry Greb
4. Henry Armstrong

These remaining fighters would all get top 10/15 consideration from me;

Willie Pep (possibly 5th), Jimmy Wilde, Ezzard Charles, Benny Leonard, Joe Gans, Joe Louis, Roberto Duran, Tony Canzoneri, Jack Dempsey, George Dixon, Eder Jofre, Mickey Walker, Archie Moore, Bob Fitzsimmons, Gene Tunney, and Muhammad Ali.

SuzieQ49
03-26-2006, 12:57 AM
here are my top 10 fighters of all time

1. sugar ray robinson
2. henry armstrong
3. Willie Pep
4. Harry Greb
5. Roberto Duran
6. Sam Langford
7. Joe Louis
8. Joe Gans
9. Ezzard Charles
10. Muhammad Ali

Kid Achilles
03-26-2006, 01:06 AM
I can't see Foreman being on any kind of P4P list Heckler, with all due respect. A heavyweight version of Fullmer who had strength, chin, inside fighting ability and stamina would have killed him. LaMotta, Cerdan, Ketchel, or any of those tough guys with a chin, high workrate, and stamina would have withstood those early bombs and taken him out late in any kind of P4P marchup. Foreman's style worked for him because he was a heavyweight, one of the biggest of his era, but he wouldn't have had nearly as much success if he was a middleweight or smaller.

I may be alone here but I think Foreman is highly overrated these days. I think he's a top ten heavyweight champion but I don't list him in my top five. P4P he would probably not make my top forty. Stamina is, and always will be, one of the most important assets a fighter can possess and Foreman lacked it in his prime big time.

Dempsey 1919
03-26-2006, 01:52 AM
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Gans
3. Archie Moore
4. Ezzard Charles
5. Suger Ray Robinson
6. Sugar Ray Leonard
7. Roy Jones Jr.
8. Sonny Liston
9. Sam Langford
10.Billy Conn

Honerable mentions: George Foreman, Willie Pep, Gene Tunney, Henry Armstrong, Charlie Burley, Roberto Duran, Michael Spinks, and Joe Frazier.

TheGreat1
03-26-2006, 02:21 AM
in no order

1. Ray Robinson
2. JCC
3. Duran
4. RJJ
5. Hagler
6. Joe Louis
7. J. Toney
8. Ali
9. Foreman
10.Holyfield

TheGreat1
03-26-2006, 02:22 AM
in no order

1. Ray Robinson
2. JCC
3. Duran
4. RJJ
5. Hagler
6. Joe Louis
7. J. Toney
8. Ali
9. Foreman
10.Holyfield

i think PBF will be on this list very soon

Heckler
03-26-2006, 02:51 AM
Fair enough Kid. Its not necessarily a p4p List. I think Foreman deserves to be on my list because i sincerely believe that only one boxer in history could beat him (73-74), and that boxer did beat him. I believe him to be the closest thing to invincible boxing has seen and thus i have him in my top 10.

Frazier's 15th round
03-26-2006, 02:55 AM
Invincible? Ali and Young made him look like a fool. Pretty much anybody who boxed and moved a little bit gave him problems.

Heckler
03-26-2006, 03:00 AM
As usual you are being simplistic. The fighter that young beat differed from the fighter that Ali beat. He was hesitant, emotionally damaged, trying to adapt a measured style that didn't suit him. The notion that any clever boxer could give Foreman problems is ridiculous, did Ali move? could he move? No, because Foreman was too profficent at cutting off the ring. Ali did what no others could, he sat on the ropes and let Foreman throw shots at will until he tired.

Yogi
03-26-2006, 03:04 AM
So Foreman had only a three fight prime, is that it?

CRESCENDOPOWER
03-26-2006, 03:23 AM
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Sugar Ray Robinson
3. Joe Louis
4. Marvin Hagler
5. Roy Jones Jr.
6. Julio Cesar Chavez
7. Rocky Marciano
8. Sugar Ray Leonard
9. Bernard Hopkins
10.Roberto Duran

Heckler
03-26-2006, 03:35 AM
So Foreman had only a three fight prime, is that it?

lol, we have been through this before Yogi. My view on this is set in stone, the best version of foreman was Pre-rumble in the jungle.
Physically he was still fine, but mentally he was not all together.

Dempsey1238
03-26-2006, 07:32 AM
yeah I agree a heavyweight Fullmer, could beat Foreman. Foreman is over rated pound for pound.

my top ten are

1 Gans
2 Robinson
3 Greb
4 Pep
5 Armstron
6 Dixion
7 Benny L
8 Toney C
9 Galvian
10 Bob Fitz

Yaman
03-26-2006, 09:09 AM
1-Roy Jones JR.
2-Joe Louis
3-Sugar Ray Robinson

And these guy deserve a mention..Hagler, Leonard, Ali.

SuzieQ49
03-26-2006, 12:52 PM
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Gans
3. Archie Moore
4. Ezzard Charles
5. Suger Ray Robinson
6. Sugar Ray Leonard
7. Roy Jones Jr.
8. Sonny Liston
9. Sam Langford
10.Billy Conn

Honerable mentions: George Foreman, Willie Pep, Gene Tunney, Henry Armstrong, Charlie Burley, Roberto Duran, Michael Spinks, and Joe Frazier.


roy jones jr has no businnes being there


- sonny liston has NO BUSINESS BEING THERE



sonny liston over willie pep and henry armstrong :confused: :confused:

Dempsey 1919
03-27-2006, 01:17 AM
roy jones jr has no businnes being there


- sonny liston has NO BUSINESS BEING THERE



sonny liston over willie pep and henry armstrong :confused: :confused:

jones jr. was a beast in his prime.

liston was as well, the best hw ever, besides ali of course. :D

Heckler
03-27-2006, 04:28 AM
Remember this isn't specifically P4P, like i specified its your OWN criteria, except head to head because comparing across divisions head to head is ridiculous.

IAMTHEGREATEST
03-28-2006, 12:51 AM
M.ali
R.Marciano
J.louis
r. Robinson
G.Foreman
M.Tyson
R.Leonard
J.Dempsey
RJJ
PBF

mokele
03-28-2006, 03:42 AM
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Sugar Ray Robinson
3. Joe Louis
4. Marvin Hagler
5. Roy Jones Jr.
6. Julio Cesar Chavez
7. Rocky Marciano
8. Sugar Ray Leonard
9. Bernard Hopkins
10.Roberto Duran

This list is so close to my own that I'll endorse it with 1 or 2 changes.

I wouldn't put Ali ahead of Joe Louis. Ali dominated his division in 1964 through 1967 but after his comeback he was really more like 1st among equals. Louis stood alone on top for much longer.

I just can't include Bernard Hopkins in spite of his longevity as champion. He did too much running and clinching sometimes. In his place I would put Gene Tunney. Tunney's career was nothing short of brilliant from start to finish. He lost only twice, both times to Harry Greb, but he defeated Greb 3 times, including a 1-sided thrashing in their 5th and final fight. I was never a Gene Tunney fan until I took a closer look at his career. I was a Jack Dempsey fan and Tunney was the "bad guy" ;) . Tunney's an acquired taste for me as a boxing fan, but I just can't overlook him.

The whole rest of the list is fantastic, filled with immortal greats that combined great skill with the heart of a warrior.

well, I just saw a compilation of video clips of Bernard Hopkins fights, starting with his fight in 1993 with Roy Jones, then his fights with Bo James, Glencoffe Johnson, Antwun Echols, William Joppy and Taylor. After looking at it I must admit that Bernard Hopkins does not disgrace any list of 10 best fighters all time. The running and holding have characterized only his later years, starting perhaps around the year 2000 or so.

JDizzle79
03-28-2006, 03:48 AM
1) Ali/Clay
2) Robinson
3) Louis
4) Hagler
5) Leonard--I know, I know...gimme a break
6) Marciano--it was hard to place him here but look at the names above
7) Foreman
8) Duran
9) Hopkins
10) Lennox Lewis

The Raging Bull
03-28-2006, 04:31 AM
My top 5 is

1. Muhammad Ali- So talented
2. Rocky Marciano- Undefeated
3. Sugar ray leonard- sooo quick
4. George Forman- A beast
5. Joe Louis- Just an amazing fighter


As you can see i kinda like heavyweights lol


:boxing:

oldgringo
03-28-2006, 11:37 AM
Robinson (goat)
Armstrong (close to goat)
Duran (animal)
Charles (best 175'er in my estimation and a good hw)
Langford (a bear)
Pep (maybe the best little guy ever)
Ali (greatest)
Greb (windmilling tunney beater)
Leonard (benny that is)
Whitaker (modern marvel)

oldgringo
03-28-2006, 11:43 AM
i havent really studied gans enough to put him in anywhere :(

K-DOGG
03-28-2006, 12:42 PM
Best "Pure Boxers"...? Okay, off the cuff...

1. "Sugar" Ray Robinson
2. Willie Pep
3. Joe Gans
4. Benny Leonard
5. Pernell Whitaker
6. Carlos Zarate
7. Eder Jofre
8. Charley Burley
9. Ezzard Charles
10. Alexis Arguello


Like I said, that's off the cuff, so hold up on the crucifictions.