Lets hear it. But please....back up your pcik with some opinions and data. I hate Tito...but I just dont see Winky being able to back Tito up, and thats how Wright wins fights. Whoever establishes the forward momentum takes this one.

I've said it before, the Shane Mosley fight showed us one thing, and that is that Winky is a weak puncher, which a average chin. He is a good boxer. However I think that Trinidad will outbox him because he is much more talented than Winky. Possibly a late KO.

Lets hear it. But please....back up your pcik with some opinions and data. I hate Tito...but I just dont see Winky being able to back Tito up, and thats how Wright wins fights. Whoever establishes the forward momentum takes this one.
winky has good skills but i don't think he has the power to gain trinidad's respect. trinidad will probably walk him down and knock him out b-4 the night is through. does anyone know if is winky leavin 154 altoghether or will he return to defend his titles?

Winky is a second class fighter. I lost all my respect after his last Shane Mosley fight when he said that he would fight him again.

William Joppy is a legit middleweight champion and Tito hurts him like hell with that left hook (im assuming the hand wrapping issue is invalid ).

Winky cant avoid that for 12 rounds IMO. Trinidad via KO

I think Tito is on a class above Winky. Tito has beaten some great fighters and his only loss came against Hopkins and theres no shame in losing to that guy. Plus he is bigger and punches harder than winky. I think Winky will put up a damn good fight though, but I think the power shots are gonna wear him down over the twelve rounds. I like Tito by KO in 10.

Truly, I think Tito stops Winky in the late rounds - wears him down slowly and finally takes him out in about the 10th. Winky isn't a sleek boxer like De La Hoya can be. He used a high guard defence and that's made to order for Tito's bombs. He WILL hit through those gloves if he has to.

This is a stylistic mismatch that equals Trinidad by KO.
Winky Wright is an excellent defensive fighter, however....much of his defense consists of blocking punches with his gloves [in which he is very adept at], standing and fending his opponents off with a steady diet of counter-jabs.

First off, nobody 168lbs and below stands in front of Felix Trinidad, covers up, takes punches to the gloves, and gets away with it. This is Winky Wrights style, putting his gloves to the sides of his head like earmuffs to fend off blows, and if he let's Trinidad rain down bombs on his gloves, he will pay dearly.

Second of all, it takes a quick, patient mover to befuddle Trinidad [see DLH, Hopkins]. Compared to those guys, Winky Wright is not so agile. Trinidad likes to get his feet set in that "sprinter's stance" where he gets up on the ball of his right foot and simply unloads a dynamite left hook or a right cross onto a relatively stationary opponent like Winky Wright. Wright does not have quick enough feet to force Trinidad to set on the move.

One can point out that Winky Wright's southpaw stance will befuddle Trinidad, but according to the old boxing adage, the best weapon against a southpaw is a good left hook, and we all know that Trinidad has one of the most lethal left hooks in Jr.Middle-Middleweight history.

Third of all, if you don't have fancy footwork, then you have to have very good power to get Trinidad's respect [see Vargas, Hopkins, even Mamadou Thiam] and make him circle away from you at times. Otherwise, he'll stalk you all night long, and eventually catch you cold, especially if you're Winky Wright who is slightly-above-average at best in terms of punching power.

The only legitamate weapons Winky Wright has is his jab and counterpunching ability. Defenitely not enough against Felix Trinidad. Winky Wright is an excellent fighter, but this is defenitely the wrong fight for him.

Tito Trinidad by brutal KO or TKO in the early rounds.

I, too, believe that Winky is not in Tito's class. Yes, Winky made his mark by "outpointing" and "outboxing" Sugar Shane. But not by dominating and beating him. I think even Mayorga and Forrest would be too much for Winky, how much more with Tito? I believe this would be Winky's biggest test, and he fails, he will never recover again. On the other hand, if Tito loses, his retirement should then be for good.

P.S. Whatcha think about FORREST vs. TRINIDAD after Winky? I'd sure like to see that. Even thought Forrest went down vs Mayorga twice and Mayorga got beaten by Tito, this should be a great match! And if Tito wins this, a rematch vs. HOPKINS would be in order.

winky has good skills but i don't think he has the power to gain trinidad's respect. trinidad will probably walk him down and knock him out b-4 the night is through. does anyone know if is winky leavin 154 altoghether or will he return to defend his titles?

i've read it in *********.com, they will be fighting in the 160 lbs division.

tito by ko in the middle rounds, maybe in the 8th or 9th. the only guy who could beat tito is hopkins because he's stronger than him. tito will break winky's defense and eat him alive.

Lets hear it. But please....back up your pcik with some opinions and data. I hate Tito...but I just dont see Winky being able to back Tito up, and thats how Wright wins fights. Whoever establishes the forward momentum takes this one.

Wright won't hurt Tito cause he sustained shots from mayorga that were bigger than any punch winky could land. But Tito will hurt winky at some point...even if he hits the forearms a lot in the 1st rounds, he will eventually make him lower his guard and TKO him.
Why do you hate Tito ??

yeap, i'm with the droves of other posters on this thread. winky'll keep those hands pasted to his face and body the whole night and when he opens up he'll just close right back up, but tito's persistance'll keep him on wink and put him out late in the fight. i hope wink makes it to the final bell cuz i kinda like him, hes getting a good payday, basically giving up his belts and moving up in weight. i hope the dude doesn't get hurt.

Winky Wright is a tough fighter in my opinion and his style can be tricky to the above average fight but Tito is exceptional. The way he dismantled Mayorga after that layoff was frightening. I think Tito will be the first man to stop Winky. I respect Winky as a fighter alot as he is tough and hasn't earned the respect he should have in his career at this stage.

This is a no-win situation for Tito. If he wins he will be acused of beating up smaller fighters moving up in weight; if he loses he lost to a Jr. Middleweight. While I think he'll win, I don't think people will give Winky the credit of being a great fighter after he gets KOd by Tito. Oh, yeah, that's my prediction because I don't think Winky can take Trinidad's power for 12 rounds.

Tito by KO for sure. He won't get tripped up like Mosley did against southpaw Wright. Plus if Mayorga couldn't stun Tito then Winky doesn't have a chance.

The only way to beat Tito is to constantly circle him and counter. You can NEVER let tito's feet stay planted. The younger winky would circle tito and not give tito any chances to unload his power shots. The winky of today may let his pride betray him. I think winky will sit infront of Tito and try to slip his powershots on the inside. He will try to make an example out of Tito because in his mind Tito cant hurt him. He will be wrong, Tito's power and stamina is unreal, he will hurt winky, and probably knock him out.

Now if winkys pride doesnt get the better of him, he will circle and box tito, use the blueprint that hop/dlh set up for him. He has a chance at a decision that way.

The only way to beat Tito is to constantly circle him and counter. You can NEVER let tito's feet stay planted. The younger winky would circle tito and not give tito any chances to unload his power shots. The winky of today may let his pride betray him. I think winky will sit infront of Tito and try to slip his powershots on the inside. He will try to make an example out of Tito because in his mind Tito cant hurt him. He will be wrong, Tito's power and stamina is unreal, he will hurt winky, and probably knock him out.

Now if winkys pride doesnt get the better of him, he will circle and box tito, use the blueprint that hop/dlh set up for him. He has a chance at a decision that way.In his retirement, he should of worked on that.

You know and I know that oscar ran like a ***** for the last 3 rounds because he thought he beat Tito decisivly. I hate him for the way he fought those last 3 rounds but even though it was still a close fight.

As for your arguement hopkins stayed with oscars plan and circled and countered all night, he didnt run at the end and look at the result of that fight!

You know and I know that oscar ran like a ***** for the last 3 rounds because he thought he beat Tito decisivly. I hate him for the way he fought those last 3 rounds but even though it was still a close fight.

As for your arguement hopkins stayed with oscars plan and circled and countered all night, he didnt run at the end and look at the result of that fight!Trinidad before was overwelmed at getting a KO, he even retired, cause of his own fans. Now, he would get back to boxing, like he did with Campas
(hopefully). I think he needed, fresh air.

Thats a very lame excuse. Fact is that Tito looks unbeatable if a guy stands there toe to toe with him. If someone shows him different angles and movement he clearly gets frustrated. B-hop and dlh fought him years apart, yet both of there game plans clearly disturbed him. Anyone with 2 eyes and an unbiased heart can see that.

I'll go out on a limb and say that Wright edges Tito by a very narrow decision...and may have to get off the canvas to do so. Winky would land the cleaner punches and counter Trinidad effectively all night. Tito is not bigger than Winky and will not bully him. It would be a great fight...if Tito lands clean on Wright too much then its night night for Winky.

I wouldn't totally dismiss Winky. I remember Winky fighting Fernando Vargas and I was shocked. Winky kept Vargas against the ropes the whole night. He likes to in-fight with you behind a very tight defense. But I think Tito is many levels above Winky. I'm not as smooth as usual because I was smoking weed last night and I'm all ****ed up now.

I say Winky holds his own in the first half but Tito's punches start wearing on him in the second half and Winky survives the distance.

Tito by decision but I hope by knockout.


I wouldn't really compare Hopkins and Delahoya's performance against Tito. Hopkins used side steps after throwing more meaningful punches. Oscar threw fast shoe shine punches and then circled the entire ring before engaging again. Hopkins put on a much better performance and won convincingly. Oscar's performance even if he would of won didn't convince me that he is really better than Tito. There's a difference between dominating every round which Hopkins did and winning the majority of the rounds close which Oscar did.

Winky will use his jab alot, but if I would compare, what this fight would look like, it would be a Parnel Whitaker/Vargas, type fight. If Whitaker didnt beat him, Winky wont.

Winky will use his jab alot, but if I would compare, what this fight would look like, it would be a Parnel Whitaker/Vargas, type fight. If Whitaker didnt beat him, Winky wont.

Whitaker was as shot as you can get when he fought Tito...who was also in his prime and naturally larger. Pea was also all coked out then...Winky is arguably in his prime now...has a much different style then Whitaker, and isn't strung out on dope.

Winky will use his jab alot, but if I would compare, what this fight would look like, it would be a Parnel Whitaker/Vargas, type fight. If Whitaker didnt beat him, Winky wont.
But Whitaker was coming off a 19 month layoff, which he spent in a drug rehab center.

I say Winky holds his own in the first half but Tito's punches start wearing on him in the second half and Winky survives the distance.

Tito by decision but I hope by knockout.


I wouldn't really compare Hopkins and Delahoya's performance against Tito. Hopkins used side steps after throwing more meaningful punches. Oscar threw fast shoe shine punches and then circled the entire ring before engaging again. Hopkins put on a much better performance and won convincingly. Oscar's performance even if he would of won didn't convince me that he is really better than Tito. There's a difference between dominating every round which Hopkins did and winning the majority of the rounds close which Oscar did.


Had Oscar FOUGHT in the championship rounds instead of running and won the fight...you wouldn't believe that he had the edge on Tito?

Wright and Trinidad will go the full 12 rounds, since Trinidad will fail to really nail Wright

and I think since they aren't fighting in florida trinidad will get the decision ;)

But Whitaker was coming off a 19 month layoff, which he spent in a drug rehab center.Well, I'll make Titos excuses, you guys make everyone esle one, how about that.


AND, If Oscar had fought, he would of been KO'd, anything esle, would be an axcuse. :D

Well, I'll make Titos excuses, you guys make everyone esle one, how about that.


AND, If Oscar had fought, he would of been KO'd, anything esle, would be an axcuse. :D
So Marciano deserves all the credit in the world for his destruction of Joe Louis? And Holmes should be ranked above Ali for the beating he put on Ali, huh? There are excuses and then there is being realistic.

I was smoking weed last night and I'm all ****ed up now.

are you an amateur or pro fighter

are you an amateur or pro fighter
Amateur, why?

Amateur, why?

was just curious, if you were pro was going to ask ya about the piss testing

and if any of your trainers/coaches know about it, what was their initial reaction?

was just curious, if you were pro was going to ask ya about the piss testing
Amateurs there is no piss testing.

This has been discussed miltiple times. Like I have said before, I think Tito can win by KO. I say this becuase he has too much power and Winky wont be able to stay away from him all night. I consider Winky an excellent figheter, but his punching power is suspect.

Is this fight signed yet???

This has been discussed miltiple times. Like I have said before, I think Tito can win by KO. I say this becuase he has too much power and Winky wont be able to stay away from him all night. I consider Winky an excellent figheter, but his punching power is suspect.

Is this fight signed yet???

Yep it's official 5/14/05 at MGM...R.I.P Ronald "Winky" Wright

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Winky outbox him and win a decision, I still think Tito tko's him though. At least that is what I'm wishing for.

I'm going with Winky Wright on this one. Tito has passed his prime and considering the layoff I don't think he will be sharp enough to land his best punches against a top notch defensive boxer like Mr. Wright.

You see, one of Tito's greatest assets was his incredible accuracy with his left hook. Tito's hook was THE punch in boxing for several years.

However, I think this accuracy has decreased significantly since the layoff. A prime Tito would have finished off a catcher like Mayorga within the first two rounds. Mayorga actually gave Tito a little trouble in their fight, if you recall, before Trinidad was able to completely establish himself. I think this rustiness will become evident in the face of Wright's skill and reflexes.

I'm not too concerned about Wright's lack of power because I don't think Tito's chin is his strong point. I think Wright has just enough pop in his punches to command Tito's respect.

This is all just speculation and I'm really just trying to play the devil's advocate. Someone's gotta root for Winky, ya know?

tito kayo 10, winky holds his own for the first 6 or 7, but tito hits him with a bomb in round 8 and he suffers through a tremendous beating before succumbing in 10 by tko

Before the first fight with Shane did anyone think Winky would dominate like that, no! Most people thought he was about to get ****ed up. Before Tito anybody giving him a shot, not really. We dont know really how good Tito is anymore, I think not that great, remember when Mayorga was just letting Tito pound him, I don't think anyone could have taken that punch three years ago. Plus Hopkins and DLHoya both showed ways to beat Tito even if Oscar did get the credit. All Winky needs to do is watch the films, go out there and do it. I'm predicting Winky with a decision, and if I have any points left after betting them on GAtti v. Leja I'll bet them all on it.

tito most likely will knock winky out by round 10

Before the first fight with Shane did anyone think Winky would dominate like that, no! Most people thought he was about to get ****ed up. Before Tito anybody giving him a shot, not really. We dont know really how good Tito is anymore, I think not that great, remember when Mayorga was just letting Tito pound him, I don't think anyone could have taken that punch three years ago. Plus Hopkins and DLHoya both showed ways to beat Tito even if Oscar did get the credit. All Winky needs to do is watch the films, go out there and do it. I'm predicting Winky with a decision, and if I have any points left after betting them on GAtti v. Leja I'll bet them all on it.
Well, nobody had ever knocked Mayorga down, much less KO'd him, until Tito got in the ring with him. Yes, he had an iron chin by everyone's definition until the iron-chin-busting power of Trinidad's left hand got to him. Tito by brutal KO.

trinidad ko, only way winky could win would be a decision from trinidad falling down a couple times in the earlier rounds and maintaining a point lead. his defensive fighting is his stronger asset but i do not think he could keep up with trinidad's accuracy and activeness in the long run. this fight boils down to the action in the first few rounds of the fight where felix hasn't found his rythm and winky can stack the cards in his favor being a more defensive fighter with very little chance of koing trinidad. also i think trinidad only sees this fight as a warm up for better competition. even if i'm way off base of the rest trinidad by ko.

Anyone who knows me knows that I'm not a Trinidad fan, however, if Winky tries to engage with him in a war (i.e. moving forward into Tito's moving forward..) it's going to be an early night for Winky. I think the key to beating Tito is boxing..if you try to go to war with him he'll eventually physically overwelm you with his power punches. My pick is Tito by TKO in 6 or 7.

Perfect fight for Tito. Tito KO7

Trinidad just overpowers him, and has better skills
Trinidad will knock Winky out, I gurantee it

Winky by UD

Trinidad By crushing knockout....i see this fight going the same way the david reid fight went.

anyone know if they have posted a line for the fight cause an excellent southpaw is worth betting on for the right price... everyone thought I was crazy for taking spinks over mayorga but six and half to one? are you kidding

I'm going with Winky Wright on this one. Tito has passed his prime and considering the layoff I don't think he will be sharp enough to land his best punches against a top notch defensive boxer like Mr. Wright.

You see, one of Tito's greatest assets was his incredible accuracy with his left hook. Tito's hook was THE punch in boxing for several years.

However, I think this accuracy has decreased significantly since the layoff. A prime Tito would have finished off a catcher like Mayorga within the first two rounds. Mayorga actually gave Tito a little trouble in their fight, if you recall, before Trinidad was able to completely establish himself. I think this rustiness will become evident in the face of Wright's skill and reflexes.

I'm not too concerned about Wright's lack of power because I don't think Tito's chin is his strong point. I think Wright has just enough pop in his punches to command Tito's respect.

This is all just speculation and I'm really just trying to play the devil's advocate. Someone's gotta root for Winky, ya know?

winky is no bernard hopkins that's all i can say.

winky will get knocked the **** out

Tito TKO 10

Wright is a good fighter but against TITO he's a joke. He Has NO Power whatsoever. He is purely a defensive fighter. Wright couldn't even KO Vargas in their fight and let's not mention that TITO Knocked him the %$#@ OUT!!! On top of all that who has Wright fought? Mosely and Vargas? COME ON!!!! Mosely got his ass handed to him by Forrest who is MIA! So all ya'll talkin that stuff bout how IF TITO gets passed Wright need to realize that your boy is going to get smoked. Wright can defend all he wants but there will be a blow that will find its way and then BAM....Who's next....B-Hop! FO SHO!!!!

Tito is simply a much more well rounded fighter than Winky so I'll pick Tito on this one. Tito by K.O. or T.K.O.