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chosen_one
03-25-2006, 03:48 AM
when i say fastest i mean punching speed, footwork and reflexes

i would say ali or sugar ray

hellfire508
03-25-2006, 04:11 AM
What P4P? P4P handspeed probably...Taylor, Ali, Leonard, Jones...meh.

Overall P4P fastest, I say Ali. For a heavyweight, he was like lightning.

SuzieQ49
03-25-2006, 04:35 AM
1960s ali, he was special. hes # 1


others

sugar ray leonard
sugar ray robinson
ezzard charles
willie pep
roy jones

Yaman
03-25-2006, 11:40 AM
Pacman has the fastest hands EVER..no contest.

And just being a fast boxer overall, its Roy Jones JR.

Dynamite76
03-25-2006, 12:05 PM
Muhammad Ali

-Antonio-
03-25-2006, 12:13 PM
The stuff Ive seen of Meldrick Taylor is pretty amazing.

TheHoff'sGhost
03-25-2006, 12:29 PM
ali closely followed by leonard

paul750
03-25-2006, 12:32 PM
In terms of reflexes, Chris Byrd deserves a mention.

Jarlaxle
03-25-2006, 12:41 PM
fastest uppercuts I have ever seen are Judahs. The uppercut he hit Tszyu with was lighting

Dempsey 1919
03-25-2006, 12:59 PM
fastest boxer ever? a prime roy jones jr. :boxing:

Shanus
03-25-2006, 04:43 PM
Fastest P4P hand speed, Sugar Ray Leonard, from Welter up to Middle, he still had the fastest hands in the business.

Violent Demise
03-25-2006, 06:50 PM
Meldrick Taylor was the fastest. Terry Norris also had fast hands. A prime Jorge Paez had underrated hand speed.

Stiv Rex
03-26-2006, 07:50 PM
how about pernell whitaker, pre-coke?

Verstyle
03-26-2006, 07:56 PM
Fastest P4P hand speed, Sugar Ray Leonard, from Welter up to Middle, he still had the fastest hands in the business.


that is very true

Verstyle
03-26-2006, 07:57 PM
the way i throw my punches r fast but once u add power shots to your punches your power decreases alot. so that gets me thinking if tyson didnt use power shots all the time and threw his shots like floyd. i wonder how fast would he be. :confused:

Morley
03-26-2006, 11:19 PM
SUGAR RAY LEONARD had the fastest hands ever and his footwork and reflexes were amazing. That one fight he had in the Olympics was extraordinary.

Texasboy34
03-27-2006, 03:18 PM
Meldrick Taylor
Roy Jones Jr
SRL

Texasboy34
03-27-2006, 03:20 PM
fastest uppercuts I have ever seen are Judahs. The uppercut he hit Tszyu with was lighting

That punch that made Zab do the chicken dance must have bee Thunder! LOL.. thats still one of the funniest things I have ever seen in boxing.

The Raging Bull
03-27-2006, 03:23 PM
Ali then leonard. Ali was soooooo fast its unbelievable and he had great stamina to go with it.


:boxing:

Shanus
03-27-2006, 08:04 PM
Ali then leonard. Ali was soooooo fast its unbelievable and he had great stamina to go with it.


:boxing:

You can't compare Ali's hand speed to Leonards, Ali was extraordianry fast for a heavyweight, SRL was just extraordinary fast.. I forgot to mention one name, RJJ had extremely fast hands, One would have to compare their flurries by the milisecond.. but of course nobody will ever do that, because it's damn near impossible.
Imagine these two both fighting at Middleweight prime for prime, Damn.

opethdrums
03-27-2006, 08:34 PM
sugar ray leonard

Dynamite76
03-28-2006, 11:29 AM
In terms of reflexes, Chris Byrd deserves a mention.

I respect Chris Byrd, but Page and Dokes were faster.

ferocity
03-28-2006, 04:47 PM
No one has mentioned Hector Camacho Sr.yet, he had very fast hands in his prime, and he could get out of the way of punchs just as fast. Delahoya had fast hands at the lighter weights, once he moved up his speed decressed.

*!#@PBRick@#!*
03-29-2006, 09:57 AM
How has no one mentioned PBFloyd yet?

chris_cov
03-29-2006, 10:46 AM
ali, meldrick taylor, ray leonard, pbf

machotime
03-29-2006, 10:57 AM
This video answers that question.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=CVE9yE3t-Mo&search=leonard%20boxing

*!#@PBRick@#!*
03-29-2006, 11:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTdSOkgq4zc&search=floyd%20mayweather

6OVER6LORD6
03-29-2006, 11:56 AM
Tie between Ruiz and butterbean. Ali got so lucky that he never had to face either of these men in his era

wpink1
04-18-2006, 10:45 PM
You have to study their speed before just simply saying who is the fastst..first of camcho speed was bull..he never had nothing behind it..nothing..bum....Now Roy jones was awkward but the left hook was amazing...Roy's reflexes to counter is the fastest ever, that I have seen. when fighters are scared to jab or even throw punches because of the counter that they will catch befor their hands are able to pull back to defend that is fast...Now with that said, as far as combination..just look at the olympics that leonard was in, look at his fight with mayweather sr,,,etc....duran 2...even kevin howard...you will combinations that no one has ever been able to replicate..Difference leonard pulled back (most of time) and launched his punches from angles with the entention of hurting you before he retired...one classic example of this is the kalule fight..After leonard retired he lost a lot of his speed pre the hagler fight (he simply looked fast against a much slower hagler but he was very slow in that fight for him) he lost his angles, and his punches were softer and and thrown to score not to hurt....he only tried to hurt when he sinced he had a person hurt after retirmenet..before retirment ..you simply need to see the dvds....

Verstyle
04-18-2006, 10:57 PM
the hl video of sugar ray was sorta against him cause u saw alot of slapping punches.but he still is the fastest

wpink1
04-18-2006, 11:15 PM
Yes in the hagler fight I agree, but as i posted leonard in retirment lost a lot of his speed and combinations..so the 1987 version of ray 5 yrs removed form consistent boxing was much slower, no legs, no stamina...just simply ring generalship against hagler...he actually if you rplay that fight many times,,,and then look at 82 leonard and before...even 84 kevin howard..he was much much slower when he fought hagler, and being winded as he was after round 5 slows you down as well....

Azteca
04-18-2006, 11:22 PM
camacho pre-rosario had the fastest hands i've ever seen. rosario wrecked him, but before that camacho would throw punches with intentions. it was only until after rosario that he turned into the safety first, defensive fighter that we have been accustomed to. don't be fooled !!

wpink1
04-19-2006, 12:59 AM
camacho had fast hands but even as a lightweight his combinations were nothing like leonards....he tried to shoe shine like leonard..but his punches he never pulled back..leonard if you look at when he shoe shined he was actually pulling his hands back on each shot, but he was soooo fast that rjj and camacho.simply flurried with their hands in front of them,,no power on the punches...Now I am referring to the 76-82 ray leonard...the 87 and after ray's speed ws gone..look at how he shoe shinned against hagler..nothing on it...Now if you look at mayweather sr vs leonard,,you will see speed, look at round 9..then look at leoanrd in the olympics..dammmmm never before has a fighter put combinations together like that....Also, anybody can get their punches off whtn they dont have to fear punches coming back at them...ala camacho..

catskills23
04-19-2006, 01:03 AM
dose tyson deserve a mention?.

Verstyle
04-19-2006, 03:42 PM
dose tyson deserve a mention?.


when tyson was on the red bag on the video i saw some hand speed i've never seen before, hell i dont think i could ever duplicate that sorta speed :eek:

hellfire508
04-21-2006, 12:08 AM
If it's in a P4P sense, it has to be Ali. If it's not, it's probably some straweight or something.

Look at the combination Ali threw against Brian London. Obviously they were 'taps', but damn that is fast for big man.

Dempsey 1919
04-21-2006, 01:00 AM
If it's in a P4P sense, it has to be Ali. If it's not, it's probably some straweight or something.

Look at the combination Ali threw against Brian London. Obviously they were 'taps', but damn that is fast for big man.

no, they weren't taps, they were just so fast that they looked like taps. ali knocked him out with that combo, so they couldn't have been taps. some of the fastest shots in boxing history.

Piggu
04-21-2006, 01:14 AM
Look at the combination Ali threw against Brian London. Obviously they were 'taps', but damn that is fast for big man.
I've never seen that fight. Do they have tapes of that? I've never seen it on ESPN Classic.

zelley
09-25-2008, 11:06 PM
What P4P? P4P handspeed probably...Taylor, Ali, Leonard, Jones...meh.

Overall P4P fastest, I say Ali. For a heavyweight, he was like lightning.

To pick Ali has the fastest boxer ever is a stretch. He of course was a fast heavyweight
but it is likely the fastest were flyweights to featherweights.

mspiegelo
09-26-2008, 12:27 AM
pound for pound? roy jones!

Idgas
09-26-2008, 01:07 AM
fastest uppercuts I have ever seen are Judahs. The uppercut he hit Tszyu with was lighting

i agree. his uppercuts are vicious. i remember cotto getting cut below his lower lip with one which i thought was an odd place for a cut.

Miburo
09-26-2008, 01:42 AM
Fastest overall in a P4P sense I'm going to say Jones. Fastest period, probably Taylor. Camacho always deserves a mention as well.

MaTTuP
09-26-2008, 02:48 AM
pacman or zab

Dynamite76
10-03-2008, 04:23 PM
If not Ali, then Howard Davis Jr, or Bernard Taylor.