View Full Version : top 10 featherweights of all time


SuzieQ49
03-22-2006, 11:27 PM
lets see everyones lists

Verstyle
03-22-2006, 11:28 PM
alot of ppl dont know featherweights so this will be a hard 1 for alot of ppl

wichito_one
03-23-2006, 12:13 AM
Willie Pep
Sandy Saddler
Salvador Sanchez
Henry Armstrong
I can give you four that standout but, it would take me a long time to analyze the rest, but with a division so rich in talented fighters it is kind of hard.I could throw some names though Wilfredo Gomez,Azumah Nelson,Eusebio Pedroza,Abe Attell,Chalky Wright,Tony Canzoneri and the list goes on.

wichito_one
03-23-2006, 12:15 AM
Love those old school pics by the way Suzie.Two of the elites.

MickyHatton
03-23-2006, 04:53 AM
Willie Pep
Davey Moore
Azumah Nelson
Eusabio Pedrosa
Sandy Sadler
Marco Antonio Barrera
Salvador Sanchez
Naseem Hamed
Eric Morales
Barry McGuigan
Kid Chocolate
Suger Ramos

(Henry Armstrong for me should be remembered as a Welterweight)

Da Iceman
03-23-2006, 11:00 AM
wtf is kid chocolate, is that some kind of joke?

wichito_one
03-23-2006, 02:26 PM
Sorry I forgot about Kid Chocolate he was a badass as for Henry Armstrong he conquered the top feathers of his time before he held the welter crown.The only man to hold three titles at once in three divisions(Feather,lightweight,welter.A true badass.I would not rate marco in my top ten though top twenty yes.

fitz1888
03-23-2006, 02:43 PM
I've only ever seen Kid Chocolate fight once and he looked very good, i'd put him up there for the one time i seen him alone.

Yogi
03-23-2006, 04:08 PM
*Quick List*

1. Willie Pep
2. Sandy Saddler
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Salvador Sanchez
5. Abe Attell
6. Kid Chocolate
7. Jim Driscoll
8. Alexis Arguello
9. Johnny Kilbane
10. Johnny Dundee
11. George Dixon
12. Freddie Miller
13. Terry McGovern
14. Vincente Saldivar
15. Eusebio Pedroza
16. Young Griffo
17. Azumah Nelson
18. Tony Canzoneri
19. Battling Battalino
20. Baby Arizmendi
21. Eder Jofre
22. Naseem Hamed
23. Chalky Wright
24. Marco Antonio Barrera
25. Kid Kaplan

HM: Benny Bass, Davey Moore, Young Corbett, Petey Sarron, etc., etc.

*Quick List*

MickyHatton
03-23-2006, 04:14 PM
Sorry I forgot about Kid Chocolate he was a badass as for Henry Armstrong he conquered the top feathers of his time before he held the welter crown.The only man to hold three titles at once in three divisions(Feather,lightweight,welter.A true badass.I would not rate marco in my top ten though top twenty yes.


Dont get me wrong, Armstrong was awesome, a great fighter full stop.
I thought his best weight was welter!

wichito_one
03-23-2006, 04:17 PM
*Quick List*

1. Willie Pep
2. Sandy Saddler
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Salvador Sanchez
5. Abe Attell
6. Kid Chocolate
7. Jim Driscoll
8. Alexis Arguello
9. Johnny Kilbane
10. Johnny Dundee
11. George Dixon
12. Freddie Miller
13. Terry McGovern
14. Vincente Saldivar
15. Eusebio Pedroza
16. Young Griffo
17. Azumah Nelson
18. Tony Canzoneri
19. Battling Battalino
20. Baby Arizmendi
21. Eder Jofre
22. Naseem Hamed
23. Chalky Wright
24. Marco Antonio Barrera
25. Kid Kaplan

HM: Benny Bass, Davey Moore, Young Corbett, Petey Sarron, etc., etc.

*Quick List*

Nice list yogi really close to where I would have mine, though I think Alexis was a much better lightweight, and we never saw Hameds best cuz he retired after the barrera loss.

wichito_one
03-23-2006, 04:21 PM
As far as kid chocolate goes Sugar Ray Robinson said once that he thought kid chocolate was the best fighter he had ever seen and he actually studied Chocolate and incorporated alot of Chocolate's techniques in to his own arsenal.

SuzieQ49
03-23-2006, 05:37 PM
*Quick List*

1. Willie Pep
2. Sandy Saddler
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Salvador Sanchez
5. Abe Attell
6. Kid Chocolate
7. Jim Driscoll
8. Alexis Arguello
9. Johnny Kilbane
10. Johnny Dundee
11. George Dixon
12. Freddie Miller
13. Terry McGovern
14. Vincente Saldivar
15. Eusebio Pedroza
16. Young Griffo
17. Azumah Nelson
18. Tony Canzoneri
19. Battling Battalino
20. Baby Arizmendi
21. Eder Jofre
22. Naseem Hamed
23. Chalky Wright
24. Marco Antonio Barrera
25. Kid Kaplan

HM: Benny Bass, Davey Moore, Young Corbett, Petey Sarron, etc., etc.

*Quick List*


interesting and well informed list! i loved the way u included top 25 and mentioned many forgotten names like young corbett, chalky wright, etc.


* im VERY bias toward willie pep. hes one of my favorite fighters, but i truelly believe he deserves this ranking.



heres my list



1. Willie Pep
2. Sandy Saddler
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Salvador Sanchez
5. Terry Mcgovern- PAST HIS PRIME AT JUST 21 YEARS OLD
6. George Dixon
7. Kid Chocolate
8. Abe Atell
9. Alexis Arguello- his best work was at super feather
10. Azumah Nelson

SuzieQ49
03-23-2006, 05:43 PM
Dont get me wrong, Armstrong was awesome, a great fighter full stop.
I thought his best weight was welter!

no mickey. armstrongs best weight was DEFINTLEY featherweight.


in most of his welter title fights he was weighing around 135lb

Yogi
03-23-2006, 06:03 PM
interesting and well informed list! i loved the way u included top 25 and mentioned many forgotten names like young corbett, chalky wright, etc.


* im VERY bias toward willie pep. hes one of my favorite fighters, but i truelly believe he deserves this ranking.



heres my list



1. Willie Pep
2. Sandy Saddler
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Salvador Sanchez
5. Terry Mcgovern- PAST HIS PRIME AT JUST 21 YEARS OLD
6. George Dixon
7. Kid Chocolate
8. Abe Atell
9. Alexis Arguello- his best work was at super feather
10. Azumah Nelson

A whole ****load of historically great fighters to chose from in this division, so it was pretty easy coming up with 25-30 names for inclusion/mention in it.

Biased or not, going by what's available of him on film, contemporary fight reports/opinions, and by browsing his record, it's pretty easy to rate Pep as the best in this division for all-time...Unless somebody absolutely spectacular comes along sometime in the future and dominates this division like no other, Pep will be my number one Featherweight until the end of my days (besides maybe Robinson & Wilde in their respective best divisions, he's about the clearest number one out there for me).

You've come up with a excellant looking list too, Brockton, and it seems the only difference we really have is me probably giving more credit to both Dixon & McGovern as Bantamweights than Featherweights (Dixon defended the Featherweight title plenty of times while weighing in under the modern Bantamweight limit...Also McGovern beat Dixon while both weighed around 116, so again, I count that more on his Bantamweight resume)...Both would rank very high amongst my list of the greatest Bantamweights in history, as I'd have no problem including them in my top five in that division.

MickyHatton
03-24-2006, 04:46 AM
no mickey. armstrongs best weight was DEFINTLEY featherweight.


in most of his welter title fights he was weighing around 135lb

No Suzie thats your opinion and your entitled to it, IMO his best weight was welter!

hellfire508
03-24-2006, 10:54 PM
1. Henry Armstrong
2. Willie Pep
3. Sandy Saddler
4. Salvador Sanchez
5. Freddie Miller
6. Terry Mcgovern
7. Johnny Kilbane
8. Alexis Arguello
9. Azumah Nelson
10. Kid Chocolate

Something like that.

SuzieQ49
03-25-2006, 12:45 AM
No Suzie thats your opinion and your entitled to it, IMO his best weight was welter!


that doesnt make any sense. armstrong was A HUGE FEATHERWEIGHT AND DOMINATED THE DIVISION.

armstrong was a small 133lb welterweight. how the hell's he gonna be able to beat some of the all time great welters like HUGE 137lb tommy hearns or leonard weighing 133lb?



armstrong was FAR more effective at featherweight, and historians agree with me.