Who do u guys think will be the guy who emerges out of the heavyweight division, the guy who will dominate and beat everybody, I think Wladimir Klitschko,Lamon Brewster and guy
like Sam Peter or some of the european prospects will have a good chance because there is really nobody else, who u guys see as the savior of this division????

I don't think its going to be Wladimir, it could be one of the upcoming Russian prospects, there a ton. I'm still behind my boy Denis Boytsov.

right now the heavyweight division is a very open division and it could be anyone but with the top heavyweights right now all of em are **** IMO

i think WLAD come dominate. but him and his bro i think are prone to injury.

I don't see why we need for one guy to dominate. An open division is fine with me; it can be more exciting that way. When I first started following boxing everyone thought Mike Tyson was invincible and that was great for kids. But as a fan it is better to have competitive matchups like we could have now. the problem is not that no one is dominant, it's only that the top 5-6 guys rarely fight each other.

Floyd Mayweather said something along these lines recently when he was asked about unifying welterweight titles; he claims to love the messy situation, multiple titleholders, etc, and I think there is something to that.

Now this is a good topic.
Out of all of the top heavys of today, I think anyone of them could lose to another and none would dominate. I could see Toney catch Wlad with a good combo and put him out. Then again I could see Wlad keep him at a distance for 12.
I could see Brewster catch Byrd and put him to sleep same as I could see Wlad put Brewster out. Point is none of these guys will dominate.

Calvin Brock.

Calvin Brock.
Brock only looks to be decent at everything but not really great at anything. i can see him winning a title or whatever, but i don't think he's anything special.

Vitali could have. Wladimir's chances don't look good. I mean you have to have a decent chin to be able to be the champ. Does anyone else remember a heavyweight champ who was consistently knocked down if not out? I sure don't. Toney is too old to do it now, but he was my pick until the Rahman fight. My pick right now is LAMON BREWSTER. He will knock 'em all out!!!

Vitali could have. Wladimir's chances don't look good. I mean you have to have a decent chin to be able to be the champ. Does anyone else remember a heavyweight champ who was consistently knocked down if not out? I sure don't. Toney is too old to do it now, but he was my pick until the Rahman fight. My pick right now is LAMON BREWSTER. He will knock 'em all out!!!

If Toney would come into fights more motivated, and ten to fifteen pounds lighter, he still could. The problem is that he probably won't do that. He has far more skill than anyone in the division, and he was making Rahman miss him a bunch on the outside, and I think he could do that to anyone in the division.

Vitali could have. Wladimir's chances don't look good. I mean you have to have a decent chin to be able to be the champ. Does anyone else remember a heavyweight champ who was consistently knocked down if not out? I sure don't. Toney is too old to do it now, but he was my pick until the Rahman fight. My pick right now is LAMON BREWSTER. He will knock 'em all out!!!

toney would abuse brewster

if anyone can dominate everyone it has to be Wladimir. BUt the question is will he?

People forget that Peter is only like 26. He's got plenty of time to work on his game. He's got the power and he's got the chin to make it big, the rest can be learned.

Brock only looks to be decent at everything but not really great at anything. i can see him winning a title or whatever, but i don't think he's anything special.
i agreeee...

Vitali could have. Wladimir's chances don't look good. I mean you have to have a decent chin to be able to be the champ. Does anyone else remember a heavyweight champ who was consistently knocked down if not out? I sure don't. Toney is too old to do it now, but he was my pick until the Rahman fight. My pick right now is LAMON BREWSTER. He will knock 'em all out!!!
there was lennow lewis, his chin isnt better then wlads, as for the statemnet u made bout vitali that was right on the money, vitali would have been the guy who had the best chance to be the man, but things happen for a reason....

If Toney would come into fights more motivated, and ten to fifteen pounds lighter, he still could. The problem is that he probably won't do that. He has far more skill than anyone in the division, and he was making Rahman miss him a bunch on the outside, and I think he could do that to anyone in the division.
toney lacks power, even if he was in shape he wouldnt be the man, hell get knocked out by a young gun...

there was lennow lewis, his chin isnt better then wlads, as for the statemnet u made bout vitali that was right on the money, vitali would have been the guy who had the best chance to be the man, but things happen for a reason....

Yeah, but Lewis didn't get hit like Wlad does, that's the difference. Lewis would never have been hit flush by Peter.

it could be anyone u neva know. But itll probs b a russian lol.


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People forget that Peter is only like 26. He's got plenty of time to work on his game. He's got the power and he's got the chin to make it big, the rest can be learned.


people forget wlad is only 29, when he was 26 he was light years ahead of where peter is right now.

Denis Boytsov, right enough looks a contender. His record so far is one of the best early records i've ever seen AND he's young (20).

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=267630

Not Toney. He looks like a tube of half-melted chocolate.

Yeah, but Lewis didn't get hit like Wlad does, that's the difference. Lewis would never have been hit flush by Peter.
i dont agree wit u, he was hit flush by mccal he was hit flush by rahman, come on man...

http://www.arcade2084.com/boxing/wladleft.gif

i dont agree wit u, he was hit flush by mccal he was hit flush by rahman, come on man...

Not to mention the beating he took from Mercer.

there was lennow lewis, his chin isnt better then wlads, as for the statemnet u made bout vitali that was right on the money, vitali would have been the guy who had the best chance to be the man, but things happen for a reason....

dude, you're a dumbass if you think Wlad's chin is on the same level as Lewis's. Lewis only went down when he was floored by monstrough shots from McCall and Rahman that would put anybody down.

this question is one of the more pointless ones people ask on this forum, no offense to hte original poster but everyone who knows anything about heavyweight boxing resigned themselves a long time ago to the fact that these guys arent gonna unify the division.

don king is not gonna just let his guys fight wlad, i foresee wladamir klitschko retiring at some point because flat out people just wont be allowed to fight him. we'll see if lamon brewster has been bluffing after wlad wins the IBF, somehow i feel like hes already gonna have a fight lined up in the 3 weeks between his and wlad/byrd fight, that way he will have his excuse ready.

wlad is the only guy who can beat everyone else. the other top guys all pose serious style problems for each other in a variety of different ways.

dude, you're a dumbass if you think Wlad's chin is on the same level as Lewis's. Lewis only went down when he was floored by monstrough shots from McCall and Rahman that would put anybody down.


youre a dumbass too, lewis got knocked unconscious twice

wlad has gotten up from every KD leveled on him his entire career. and it seems to be his legs and not his chin that have the problem.

not sayin one is better than the others, but getting knocked down and getting up reflects much better than lennox lewis taking two 60 seconds counts to get up

to say one is better than the other and actually believe it you have to be biased cause there really no good way of telling.

None of them will dominate. You could take Toney, Wladimir, Byrd, Peter and Rahman put them in a round robin tournament and none of them would come out with less than two losses.

A single fighter dominating the division rightnow would be very difficult due to the fact that all these fighters belongs to the same category in terms of skills. I mean nobody is really exceptional and anybody can knockout anybody in any given day. In this division one punch can always make the difference between
winning and losing.

If there's anybody among these top contenders who will be able sum up 5 to 6 consecutive victories against fellow top contenders then I'll call that domination. That is even if the belt is not unified.

i'd say brewster and w klitschko have the best chance for dominating the heavies.

imo, brewster needs to polish his defense and wladimir has to get his killer instinct back.

toney's not in the equation anymore cuz he cant even beat rahman. ruslan chagaev has my eye, but i dont think it'll be him. if you say valuev, brock, or fields, i will ***** slap you to the other side of the moon. not briggs. none of the champions. not peter. not williams. i think the guy who has the best chance is wlad. hes got plenty of tools to take him to the top. whether or not he can stay there (or even get there) is yet to be seen.

the division has been reduced to ashes. even if some guy came up and conquered the division, he would conquer nothing but ashes. he would have his own empire of dirt.

Denis Boytsov, right enough looks a contender. His record so far is one of the best early records i've ever seen AND he's young (20).

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=267630


I would hardly call opposition records of 88w-121 lost-5 draws a good early record. There are only 3 people with .500 records on there.

nobody I see is the savior..but I feel the guy with the best chance to unify is Brewster.

He has power,heart and a great chin....oh yeah, and King is his guy.

I love Wlad's skills, but his chin will fail him like it always does. Rahman is too inconsistent and lazy in the ring. Toney is too fat.

Lamon brewster seems to stand the best chance but i dont know if i'd rely on him though. It took a gift decision against Meehan to wise up for his fight against Golota, if he has to be encouraged this early in his career things dont look too good.

Frankly the heavyweight division will probably continue to be open for a while, and the fights to look at will continue to be at 147 and below for a long time. Which isnt a bad thing cus those guys know how to fight.

James Lights Out Toney will be the most dominant Heavyweight.

dude, you're a dumbass if you think Wlad's chin is on the same level as Lewis's. Lewis only went down when he was floored by monstrough shots from McCall and Rahman that would put anybody down.
say what u want, but lewises chin was on the same level as wlads is, wlads problem is not his chin its his head and confidence, he doent react well to pressure, eversince the sanders fight its been like that....

this question is one of the more pointless ones people ask on this forum, no offense to hte original poster but everyone who knows anything about heavyweight boxing resigned themselves a long time ago to the fact that these guys arent gonna unify the division.

don king is not gonna just let his guys fight wlad, i foresee wladamir klitschko retiring at some point because flat out people just wont be allowed to fight him. we'll see if lamon brewster has been bluffing after wlad wins the IBF, somehow i feel like hes already gonna have a fight lined up in the 3 weeks between his and wlad/byrd fight, that way he will have his excuse ready.

wlad is the only guy who can beat everyone else. the other top guys all pose serious style problems for each other in a variety of different ways.
don king has nothing to do with the division, hes got brewster and valuev for another 3 fights, hes lost rahman and byrd, hes not a factor to be worried about now...

toney's not in the equation anymore cuz he cant even beat rahman. ruslan chagaev has my eye, but i dont think it'll be him. if you say valuev, brock, or fields, i will ***** slap you to the other side of the moon. not briggs. none of the champions. not peter. not williams. i think the guy who has the best chance is wlad. hes got plenty of tools to take him to the top. whether or not he can stay there (or even get there) is yet to be seen.

the division has been reduced to ashes. even if some guy came up and conquered the division, he would conquer nothing but ashes. he would have his own empire of dirt.
vitali was the man to clean the division up, he had the complete package, the offense the defense, the chin, and he fought his fights smart, wlad is shaky cause of the mental problem he has when hes pressured, but hopefully thats something that will get fixed...

toney's not in the equation anymore cuz he cant even beat rahman. ruslan chagaev has my eye, but i dont think it'll be him. if you say valuev, brock, or fields, i will ***** slap you to the other side of the moon. not briggs. none of the champions. not peter. not williams. i think the guy who has the best chance is wlad. hes got plenty of tools to take him to the top. whether or not he can stay there (or even get there) is yet to be seen.

the division has been reduced to ashes. even if some guy came up and conquered the division, he would conquer nothing but ashes. he would have his own empire of dirt.

yet you have lamon brewster listed as one of "my boys"

vitali was the man to clean the division up, he had the complete package, the offense the defense, the chin, and he fought his fights smart, wlad is shaky cause of the mental problem he has when hes pressured, but hopefully thats something that will get fixed...


i don't cosnider him to have the whole package , a wooden pinocchio was more fluid than him
http://www.rjohnwright.com/images/chronology/pinocchio/pinocchio.jpg

some 15 year old

Right now the HW is a joke, no one is fighting as real champs, Peters got schooled by WK, Rahmans sucks, Byrd hits like Ivan Calderon, Toney, hum... too much McDonald, Brewster is the only one that "semms" like he can do something and I dont even think so.

as of right now wladimir klitschko is the most dominate as long as hes in shape he will be fine

I see. Are you from Ukraine?

Maybe someone like Alexander Povetkin in a few years. I think Brewster is overrated. I really like Brewster, he is my favourite heavyweight because he takes high risk fights and has a freaking truckload of heart, but don't be shocked if he gets upset soon. I just don't think someone with losses to Cliff Etienne and Charles Shufford on his record can last too long at the top. Plus the close one with Kali Meehan and he was behind on points with Krasniqi in his last fight. In fact, you just might see an upset against Liayakovich (blatantly misspelt, I know).

All I know is it will be a black guy.

mt to main pics are brewster and wlad but both have big weaknesses so its hard to tell.

brewster can be outboxed and decisoned.

wlad can get knocked the **** out.

also think peter and ibramigov are both interesting, a fast technical,southpow with a hard straight left and great body shots vs a raw powerpunching ironchinned peter.

brewster-wlad 2 and ibramigov-peter are the fights i want right now.

All I know is it will be a black guy. good call.

I think as it stands wlad has the best shot. He's got the most complete package at heavy right now. Hes got the size, hes got power, and he throws good combos. If its not him, dont be surprised if calvin Brock comes in and turns it all upside down. He may not have dynamite in both hands but hes got enough to get it done. It might be boring to watch, but just because hes boring doesnt mean hes not any good.

I believe that the best in the heavyweights is Samuel Peters once he matures

I believe that the best in the heavyweights is Samuel Peters once he matures

in other words he may be the best one day, but the topic is who is the best right now

in other words he may be the best one day, but the topic is who is the best right now

i think peter will be beaten again the next time he steps up

1. Lamon Brewster
2. Wladamir Klitchko
3. Ben Wallace
4. Chris Byrd
5. Hasim Rahman

i think peter will be beaten again the next time he steps up

possibel, i would like to see him against ibramigov, the winner should get a tittel shot.

btw who is ben wallace?