Who is the greatest MMA guy all time? I know Royce Gracie and Shamrock were beasts. I know Ernesto Hoost is the king of that K-1 stuff.

What do you think of Michael McDonald and Remy Bonjasky?

Whatever happened to that Mark Kerr dude? I saw a show on him and it looked like his life went down the ****ter after the Vovchanchyn fight.

What's the deal with this Fedor dude? Who'd win between him and Cro-Cop?

What's the deal with Bob Sapp? I think Warren Sapp should get into MMA and they can form a big ass tag team.

Answer me now. :D

Who is the greatest MMA guy all time? I know Royce Gracie and Shamrock were beasts. I know Ernesto Hoost is the king of that K-1 stuff.

What do you think of Michael McDonald and Remy Bonjasky?

Whatever happened to that Mark Kerr dude? I saw a show on him and it looked like his life went down the ****ter after the Vovchanchyn fight.

What's the deal with this Fedor dude? Who'd win between him and Cro-Cop?

What's the deal with Bob Sapp? I think Warren Sapp should get into MMA and they can form a big ass tag team.

Answer me now. :D

In order

Fedor is the greatest of all time. Royce was the first great, but he was great because the world hadn't been exposed to BJJ yet.

Hoost is the greatest Kickboxer ever in my opnion.

Micheal McDonals had very good hands. I think he would have made a hell of a boxer if he has choosen to go that route. Remy Bonjasky is my favorite Muay Thia fighter. He's the K-1 Champion right now and a 2 time Champion. He's the best kickboxer on the planet right now.

Mark Kerr could have been an all time great, but drugs and a ****ed up woman ruined his life. i thought he has self esteem issues also. He didn't handle losing real well.

Fedor would win, but Cro Cop always has a stikers chance.

Bob Sapp is to MMA what Butterbean is to boxing.

Next set of questions...

Who's that great middleweight guy? I forget his name but they say he's like the p4p best MMA guy...

Does Bonjasky have the best flying kick in the game? I saw him absolutely decapitate some dude in this one event. It was the event where he slightly edged McDonald in the finals to win.

How would Shamrock stack up against guys like Fedor?

How good is KEvin Randleman? I've seen him crush people and he looks like a good fighter.

Another dude I've seen who looks invincible is Cung Li(or whatever his name is). He looks unstoppable in his technique (San-Sho?)

Next set of questions...

Who's that great middleweight guy? I forget his name but they say he's like the p4p best MMA guy...

Does Bonjasky have the best flying kick in the game? I saw him absolutely decapitate some dude in this one event. It was the event where he slightly edged McDonald in the finals to win.

How would Shamrock stack up against guys like Fedor?

How good is KEvin Randleman? I've seen him crush people and he looks like a good fighter.

Another dude I've seen who looks invincible is Cung Li(or whatever his name is). He looks unstoppable in his technique (San-Sho?)

BJ Penn? He's awsome. I dont really see a weakness in him. Fedor is like prime Tyson he's a heavyweight who is p4p the best.

Yes Bonjasky has the best flying kick.

Frank or Ken? dont matter either one gets killed. Thats a middleweight and a light heavyweight.

Kevin Randleman sucks and sucks hard.

Cung Li is a bad joke and San So is a joke. He's never fought in any real MMA event.

BJ Penn? He's awsome. I dont really see a weakness in him. Fedor is like prime Tyson he's a heavyweight who is p4p the best.

Yes Bonjasky has the best flying kick.

Frank or Ken? dont matter either one gets killed. Thats a middleweight and a light heavyweight.

Kevin Randleman sucks and sucks hard.

Cung Li is a bad joke and San So is a joke. He's never fought in any real MMA event.


I dont think the dudes name was BJ Penn...although I hear he's ****in sweet too.

So Ken Shamrock would get killed against top comp? I know he's smaller than Fedor so thats a bad comparison. But how would he have stacked up against top guys his size?

To me it looks like Cung Li owns everybody he fights but if you say his field of expertise is gay then i'll take your word for it. It looks cool when he slams people and does that flying scissor kick though.

Who has the best kick in MMA now and all-time? I know Cro Cop can kick with the best of em.

Who is the best puncher?

I dont think the dudes name was BJ Penn...although I hear he's ****in sweet too.

So Ken Shamrock would get killed against top comp? I know he's smaller than Fedor so thats a bad comparison. But how would he have stacked up against top guys his size?

To me it looks like Cung Li owns everybody he fights but if you say his field of expertise is gay then i'll take your word for it. It looks cool when he slams people and does that flying scissor kick though.

Who has the best kick in MMA now and all-time? I know Cro Cop can kick with the best of em.

Who is the best puncher?

Keep in mind Ken Shamrock is also about 40 years old. The guy is well past his best. His last big fight was against Tito Ortiz and Ortiz gave him a brutal beating. I dont count Kimo as a big fight.

Very gay

now and all time Cro Cop

Best Puncher? maybe Pedro Rizzo

Keep in mind Ken Shamrock is also about 40 years old. The guy is well past his best. His last big fight was against Tito Ortiz and Ortiz gave him a brutal beating. I dont count Kimo as a big fight.

Very gay

now and all time Cro Cop

Best Puncher? maybe Pedro Rizzo


I'm talkin about a prime Shamrock.

Tito Ortiz got his ass handed to him last time I saw him fight. He actually looked afraid of the guy he was facing.

What's the difference between Pride, K-1, and whatever Fedor and Vovchanchyn are involved with? I know in K-1 you aren't allowed to take people down and use submissions or ground pound.

Who are the 5 best, or who are 5 of the best MMA guys all time? Like an all-time p4p list.

Who's the poor bastard that got put in the crucifix by Gary Goodridge in UFC? That was the most brutal ending I've ever seen.

Who is the best at submissions and holds? now and all time

Who is the best defensive fighter? now and all time

Why does Kevin Randleman suck?

I'm talkin about a prime Shamrock.

Tito Ortiz got his ass handed to him last time I saw him fight. He actually looked afraid of the guy he was facing.

What's the difference between Pride, K-1, and whatever Fedor and Vovchanchyn are involved with? I know in K-1 you aren't allowed to take people down and use submissions or ground pound.

Who are the 5 best, or who are 5 of the best MMA guys all time? Like an all-time p4p list.

Who's the poor bastard that got put in the crucifix by Gary Goodridge in UFC? That was the most brutal ending I've ever seen.

Who is the best at submissions and holds? now and all time

Who is the best defensive fighter? now and all time

Why does Kevin Randleman suck?

Tito is a little past it himself.

You can go to the sites to see all the official rules, but this is just a summary

UFC: Fight in an octagon(biggest difference), No knees on the ground, Favors ground fighters alot more.

Pride: Fight in a ring. No elbows, but they allow Knees on the ground. Alot quicker to break it up on the ground thats why stikers prefer Pride.

Really not a whole lot different. The cage and ring is by far the biggest difference and then the elbows and knees.

K-1: pretty much just Muay Thai rules. No ground stuff unless they write that in.

Of all time

1. Fedor
2. Randy Couture
3. Royce Gracie
4. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
5. Sakuraba

When you ask a question like who is the best all time in MMA your gonna get pretty much all guys that fight right now. The sport has changed so much. If you take a guy like Sakuraba and put him in any of those old UFC tournements he would destroy everyone. The skills have gone through the roof, now guys cross train they train in ground and stand up back then they usually just did one or the other.


Paul Herrera is the guy Goodrige abused if im not mistaken.

Best at submissions

All Time: Rickson Gracie

Now: Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira

Best defense out of the guard same as the submissions

Take down defense now and all time: Cro Cop

Kevin Randleman sucks because he is a wrestler and nothing else. His chin is also made of china.

Gringo....

I think the name you're looking for....is Vanderlei Silva.

I respect your MMA knowledge fella, but I think you're a bit harsh on Kevin Randleman. He was a good fighter a few years back.

Agree about Cro Cop being the best striker though.

And is it not a little premature to say Fedor is the best ever? Sure he's destroying everyone, and is the best right now, but Nogueira did that too a couple of years ago.
I'd say the best ever in terms of longevity would be Randy Couture. Especially dropping down a weight class to become champion again.

Another of my fave's, just for pure technical skill, is Frank Shamrock.

the main problem with mma and kickboxing is their followers.

just look at the freakin retards in the audience , the way they react like rednecks to anything , this is disgusting.

it s worldwide , here the MMA fans are limited guys sayin "pride is better , i train in muay thai BJJ and sambo i can beat anybody " , OMG their stupidity is limitless.

look at boxing fans , when you go a live fight the audience is calm amd mannered, they aprrciate the athletes performances.

plus MMA lacks fighters with "something" , 250 pounds bouncers with tattos arent what i would call "special people".
plus it never generated fights like hagler hearns.

only place where they were really entusiasts and knew what they were watching is japan , were i had the opportunity to go in december.

so in one word change the followers , make it something more mature than 2 steroids monkey rollin on the floor with "adrenaline" wrote in their shorts and it has a real potential , cause it can be quite entetrtaining and has mass apeal.

Randleman has lost something like 5 of his last 6 or 6 of his last 7. Something like that.

He has pretty much loss every time he has every stepped up.

Yeah If someone wanted to say Couture is the greatest ever I would not argue.

Couture is not the greatest because a fighter must showcase his skills and have success under all kinds of rules. Couture is great in the UFC because of the cage. The UFC rules benefit a guy like Couture, because there are no knees on a down fighter, no soccer kicks allowed. Couture loves to trap fighters against the cage and land his punches. Couture does not do good in the ring, he has three loses against journeymen. You put Couture in a Pride ring and his not effective because of the rules. I think guys like Fedor and Mino can fight under UFC and Pride rules with huge success.

Couture is not the greatest because a fighter must showcase his skills and have success under all kinds of rules. Couture is great in the UFC because of the cage. The UFC rules benefit a guy like Couture, because there are no knees on a down fighter, no soccer kicks allowed. Couture loves to trap fighters against the cage and land his punches. Couture does not do good in the ring, he has three loses against journeymen. You put Couture in a Pride ring and his not effective because of the rules. I think guys like Fedor and Mino can fight under UFC and Pride rules with huge success.


Couture is also a different fighter now. Like you said some of those guys have never fought in UFC and alot of UFC guys have never fought in Pride so you just have to take what they do in there brand.

randys a remarkable athlete. and extremley intelligent he studies his opponents riligously( i apolagise 4 the spelling, i am alergik to dicktionaries ). Plus the mans got more wrinkles then a pensioner in stitches. meaning hes got more experiance then most of his enemeis being up there in his 4ortys. the fella is a legend full stop or across the atlantic PERIOD.

Couture is also a different fighter now. Like you said some of those guys have never fought in UFC and alot of UFC guys have never fought in Pride so you just have to take what they do in there brand.

Randy is the best fighter in UFC history. Couture is a smarter fighter, he learned from his defeats.

How about tito ortiz vs. vitor belfort.Who will win?

How about tito ortiz vs. vitor belfort.Who will win?


I think Tito wins...or at least im pulling for him.

I think Tito wins...or at least im pulling for him.
I've never seen Belfort what are his strength's and weakness's?

I've never seen Belfort what are his strength's and weakness's?


He's a bit on the downside. He used to have the fastest hands in MMA and he's a great finisher, good punch.


He's not real great on the ground, his heart and dedacation have always been questioned.

I'll upload a Vitor video for you right now.

I saw Ricco Rodriguez vs. Tim Sylvia last night.That fight was a while ago right?Is Sylvia still undefeated and does rodriguez still fight?

I saw Ricco Rodriguez vs. Tim Sylvia last night.That fight was a while ago right?Is Sylvia still undefeated and does rodriguez still fight?


That fight happend two years ago.

No Sylvia is not undefeated anymore. He fought Frank Mir and Mir broke his arm.

Yes Rodriguez still fights. He has alot of talent he's just lazy and he'll never be as good as he could be until he gets his act together.

yep....Silva's arm visibly snapped and he was pissed off that they stopped the fight. He is one tough mother****er! I know Matt Hughes got beat by BJ, but he's still gotta be considered one of the best at his weight.

Who is the greatest MMA guy all time? I know Royce Gracie and Shamrock were beasts. I know Ernesto Hoost is the king of that K-1 stuff.

What do you think of Michael McDonald and Remy Bonjasky?

Whatever happened to that Mark Kerr dude? I saw a show on him and it looked like his life went down the ****ter after the Vovchanchyn fight.

What's the deal with this Fedor dude? Who'd win between him and Cro-Cop?

What's the deal with Bob Sapp? I think Warren Sapp should get into MMA and they can form a big ass tag team.

Answer me now. :D

Royce Gracie's only merit was to in a way, introduce mma in the US. But all his wins have no merit. Even when you take into concideration the weight difference. He and His family made sure that He was only fighting against Non experienced Bjj fighters. He avoided ground specialists as much as He could.

Shamrock is a hack. And only a legend for those who believed the hype about this guy.His only important wins are against Bas Rutten. and most of his fighting record is filled with "cans".He lost against Fujita, Ortiz,Severn,Frye,Gracie,Funaki and some others I can't remember of. Worthy opponents always defeated him.

And the greatest mma fighter of all time is currently active , He's russian, looks like your average joe, but is capable of deploying incredible punchs on the ground. His name is Fedor Emelianenko. If mma fighters were payed as much as boxing pros, Pride fc and The ufc would have more guys with Fedor's incredible technic and force.

Michael Mcdonald is great,(imo is win against Mirko crocop was a fluke), Remy Bonjasky is K1's current poster boy. He was humiliated and looked like an amateur when He was fighting vs Crocop. Other thn that, He's one of K1'current best. But He wouldn't last long vs Andy Hug (rip), Aerts,Mark Hunt or LeBanner or even schilt.

Who'd win between Fedor and crocop? Only time well tell. Fedor just recently signed and accepted to fight vs Mirko. The fight is supposed to happen in June I think. Fedor has more chances on his side tho.

Mark Kerr, like shamrock looked good vs cans, had some decent wins but nothing else. Fighters such as Fujita, Kharitonov, Mirko, Silva, Rampage,Hunt,Randleman,Waterman,Herring,and so much more...Could destroy this guy with ease.

The deal with Bob Sapp? is that He's 370lbs of muscles that He's beast. He miraculously managed to destroy Hoost Twice. and Gave Nogueira (one of mma's best fighter) one hell of a battle.
He recently fought against LeBanner in a mixed mma K1 rules.

1rst round, LeBanner was destroying Sapp. 2nd round mma rules, Sapp was destroying LeBanner. 3rd round K1 rules LeBanner had the advantage again. 4th round MMA rules Both fighter were struggling on the ground. it was a Draw.

Next Sapp is going to fight vs a Judo olympic champion in mma rules.
Sapp's worst humiliation was in K1 vs Crocop, (Crocop broke Sapp's orbital bone with a single punch. And was crying like a baby afterwards. And also in mma, He was humiliated by Fujita. and got soccer kicked to the cranium endlessly, till the ref ended the combat.

There.

He's not real great on the ground, his heart and dedacation have always been questioned.

His ground game is pretty solid. He is a Carlson Gracie black belt who placed third in the 2001 Abu Dhabi Absolute WC.

Yeah, but you never see his ground game. If Vitor cant get the KO or atleast hurt his opponent early, it looks like he just kinda gives up...

so bad because of all mma fighters , belfort had aal the tools to become the "MMA de la hoya" .

but sure he lacks heart. and yeah he is a BJJ balck belt but even on the ground he relies on ground and pound.

Who is the greatest MMA guy all time? I know Royce Gracie and Shamrock were beasts. I know Ernesto Hoost is the king of that K-1 stuff.

What do you think of Michael McDonald and Remy Bonjasky?

Whatever happened to that Mark Kerr dude? I saw a show on him and it looked like his life went down the ****ter after the Vovchanchyn fight.

What's the deal with this Fedor dude? Who'd win between him and Cro-Cop?

What's the deal with Bob Sapp? I think Warren Sapp should get into MMA and they can form a big ass tag team.

Answer me now. :D


Its hard to say who is the greatest MMA fighter of all time because MMA is still a fairly new sport. Fighters are only now starting to evolve. Graice dominated in the early UFCs because he had tools that no other fight had or even knew he needed. Kung-fu karate tai kawn do fighters might of been tough and had their thousand year old technquies but Gracie had something that actually worked. He had brazilian jiu jitsu. There were no katas, no mystical super natural powers. He was practical and it worked. It was however, imcomplete.

Mark Kerr was a dominating force in MMA for a short time simply because fighters hadn't yet learned how to defend against a overpowering wrestler. Kerr would get the takedown and proceed to beat the living stuffings out of fighters that simply weren't strong enough or good enough to defend against his attack. Mark Kerr was one of a group of wrestlers (Mark Coleman being the other noteable one) that invented the ground and pound style. In Coleman's case he actually coined the phrase. "I am going to ground him and ummmm ****ing pound him!" Once fighters learned how to deal with wrestlers, they started defending and causing these huge wrestlers to gas out. They were then easy pickings. This is what happend to Kerr. Kerr was never a great MMA fighter. He had skills other fighters didn't know how to defend against. Once they figured out how, he was exposed. A lot of people might disagree with me but if you look at Kerr's record, you can see when it happend. That and the fact Kerr was a headcase for much of his fighting career.

Right now, Fedor is the dominate force in the HW divison. He is an excellent wrestler, has excellent submissions and hits like a ****ing truck. A lot of people call him the most powerful arm puncher in the world. This could very well be true. When striking on the ground, and even standing in most cases, its impossible to throw yourself into your shots. The foot movement and quick tight punches you see in boxing are less common place and even down right less useful in MMA. As a boxing fan I am sure you know the majority of power on your bunches comes not from your arms but your over all body. In MMA you don't have time to set yourself up to throw that perfect left hook off your jab like you do in boxing. You are defending takedowns, going for underhooks in a clinch, throwing kicks ect. ect. Fedor seems to of found a way to get an insane amount of power out of just arm punching. Its scary. He doesn't even use elbows. Elbows to the head are illegal in the major japanese MMA orginzation known as PRIDE. This is where Fedor fights. Elbows hit roughly 4 times as hard as hands do. This is based on pounds of pressure per square inch. This isn't something I made up. Elbows are legal in most MMA bouts however. These include UFC fights as elbows are legal in both the rules approved by the Nevada and New Jeresy athletic commissons.

As for Fedor Emelianenko vs Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic most people agree Fedor would beat Mirko as Fedor is a monster on the ground. He is also pretty good standing, much better than Filipovic is on the ground, thats for sure.

The UFC's best Heavyweight fighters are Andre "The Bitpull" Arlovski and Frank Mir. Arlovski is a stud. He has excellent hands and excellent submissions. He is probably the most well rounded heavywegiht out there right now. He is a jack of all trades, a master of none but he is probably better in one area of the fight game when stacked up against anyone. He has better hands than Fedor and a MUCH better ground game that Mirko. Frank Mir is probably the best jiu jitsu fighter in the HW ranks. Some people might disagree with me and say that is Antonio Rogrigo "Minotaruo" Nogueira but Mir has a nasty streek that Nogueira lacks when it comes to finishing submissions. Minotaruo once let a submission go when his opponet wouldn't tap. Mir has broken at least two arms in the UFC and has sent one fighter to the hosbital with serious damage to his ankles and knees.

However, Mir is not nearly as close to being the total package that Nogueria is. Nogueria has excellent hands, great cardio, a heart the size of a pumpkin and a chin that would most likely stand up to a direct hit from a small nuclear missle. Mir has weaknesses where Nogueria has strengths. While he does have excellent hands, Mir doesn't have the cardio or the heart Nogueria has. He also doesn't know when to let go when something that isnt working. In his fight with Ian Freeman, Mir was stopped when Freeman wouldn't tapout dispite the fact Mir had him in TWO very painful leg submissions. Freeman, who was fighting for his dying father, fought threw the pain and layed a beating on Mir. Mir refused to let go of the leg and just ate the punches. After a re-start on the feet Mir couldn't stand and the fight was stopped.

Here are my rankings for the HW divison

Top 5.

1. Fedor
2. Arlovski
3. Cro Cop
4. Nogueria
5. Mir

And in closing

Sapp is a joke. He has no talent. Its what I call the Godzilla effect. The Japanese loving seeing tiny japanese men get crushed by huge scary monsters. Thats what Sapp was good at. When fighting anyone clsoe to his size he was quickly out matched and humiliated. Ethier that or he would go nuts and get D.Qed. Sapps only victories were two K-1 stoppages over Ernesto Hoost. Even in thoses fights, he was lucky. Hoost got proud and started trading punches with Sapp insted of using body shots and leg kicks. Lack of talent aside, Sapp is huge. He hits hard.

Forgive the long post, but I tend to rant. I need a glass of water now. Bye.

so bad because of all mma fighters , belfort had aal the tools to become the "MMA de la hoya" .

but sure he lacks heart. and yeah he is a BJJ balck belt but even on the ground he relies on ground and pound.

Vitor also has a lot in common with De La Hoya in the fact both men have model like good looks and are almost as well known for what they do outside the ring than inside.

fallout it seems to me that punching is the main weapon for mma fighters , and that kicks are rarely seen.

i fought in boxing , savate and muay thai , and i always thought punches were the main part of striking .

i know cro cop can kick , but who else relies on high kicks ? because you se a mix on punches and knees when in close , mainly.

and some low kicks sometimes .

fallout it seems to me that punching is the main weapon for mma fighters , and that kicks are rarely seen.

i fought in boxing , savate and muay thai , and i always thought punches were the main part of striking .

i know cro cop can kick , but who else relies on high kicks ? because you se a mix on punches and knees when in close , mainly.

and some low kicks sometimes .

Bonjasky relys on kicks.

His punches are realy weird and uneffective.

oh yeah i forgot tino.

Going inside using punches and knees realy works well.

I box and have done some kickboxing and jiu jitsu and knees and punches has worked very in real fights for me.

oh yeah i forgot tino.

Going inside using punches and knees realy works well.

I box and have done some kickboxing and jiu jitsu and knees and punches has worked very in real fights for me.

yeah me too . those are the top weapons if youre not an incredible jicjer , they are less risky , faster and can be put into combos .

and bojansky fights only in K1 i think , remains to be seen if he can kick that well if his opponent is allowed to grapple his legs.

fallout it seems to me that punching is the main weapon for mma fighters , and that kicks are rarely seen.

i fought in boxing , savate and muay thai , and i always thought punches were the main part of striking .

i know cro cop can kick , but who else relies on high kicks ? because you se a mix on punches and knees when in close , mainly.

and some low kicks sometimes .

Yeah, a lot of MMA guys use boxing for their stand up. Punching when standing is an excellent idea. Most guys dont even throw high kicks because if you miss it leaves you in a horrible position to defend a takedown. The most common kick you will see in MMA is a leg kick. Leg kicks are normaly thrown to your opponents lead leg. This is another reason why the foot movement in boxing is less useful in MMA. In boxing when you move forward you move your lead leg first and then the rear one so you will keep your balance if you are tagged. In MMA doing this will only get your leg slammed over and over by powerful inside leg kicks. They work a lot like body shots in a sense. While they don't take away as much stamina as a good liver shot, they slow your opponent down by wearing out one of his legs. Legs welt and knot up very quickly. A few well placed leg kicks will quickly cripple your opponents movement, speed and leg strength. Leg kicks are also excellent ways to setup a takedown. Leg kicks are basicly blocked by lifting your leg up off the ground and "checking" it. 90% of the damge is done when your leg is firmly planted on the ground and can't move with the blow. So your leg ends up taking the full power. When your leg is up in the air, it moves with the kick and less damage is done. However, it also makes it harder to sprawl should someone shoot for a single or double leg takedown.

On the ground however, punches are only one of many options fighters have. Depending on the rules they are able to throw punches, knees, elbows, forearms and shoulder butts. Even soccer kicks, which are called that because you wind up and kick the guys head like you were going to kick a soccer ball and stomps with the heel are legal in some orginzations. The UFC does not allow kicks or knees to the head of a downed opponent or stomps of any kind. Kicks and knees to the body or legs of a downed opponent are legal however. Stomps to the body are not. PRIDE allows all manner of kicks knees and stomps. However, they do not allow elbows to the face. Standing or on the ground.

I hope the UFC soon legalizes kicks and knees to the head of a downed opponent. Stomps are dangerous and only used to finish off someone thats already hurt so I would prefer they stay illegal as the heel is the hardest striking bone in the body and you can do some serious damage with a single stomp to the face if someone is K.Oed. Even if the ref is running over to stop the fight, a lot of injuries could happen stomping the face of someone that is out cold. Stomps to the body could be legalized as they are not nearly as dangerous.

Kicks and knees to the head of a downed opponent would make a huge difference however. Espically for a striker fighting someone with very strong takedowns. Knees on the ground could be used by both grappling based fighters and striking based fighters, but in different positions. Just another weapon for fighters to use. I would like to see them legalized in the united states.

yeah me too . those are the top weapons if youre not an incredible jicjer , they are less risky , faster and can be put into combos .

and bojansky fights only in K1 i think , remains to be seen if he can kick that well if his opponent is allowed to grapple his legs.

A lot of K-1 guys can, some can't. Mark Hunt is a K-1 fighter who has had some sucess in MMA, Mirko "Cro Cop" is another former K-1 fighter who has done very well in MMA. In fact, Mirko is more of an MMA fighter now than a k-1 fighter.

I am not a big fan of K-1 in japan. In Japan almost everything is done with a pro wrestling feel to it. I hate that. I put up with it in MMA because I love MMA. I like K-1, but I hate the atmosphere that goes with it.

A lot of K-1 guys can, some can't. Mark Hunt is a K-1 fighter who has had some sucess in MMA, Mirko "Cro Cop" is another former K-1 fighter who has done very well in MMA. In fact, Mirko is more of an MMA fighter now than a k-1 fighter.

I am not a big fan of K-1 in japan. In Japan almost everything is done with a pro wrestling feel to it. I hate that. I put up with it in MMA because I love MMA. I like K-1, but I hate the atmosphere that goes with it.

talkin about atmosphere , that s what kept me away form UFC , altough i m a former amateur boxer and kickboxer and praticed jiujitsu for years .

the people in the arena , those rednecks screaming and eating french fries (oups sorry pdbs , patriotic fries) , it s just disgusting.

i went to japan and enjoyed sumo fights and the last pride event , and the public was GREAT , they were really respectful and knew about the sport .

in france thats the same , i just cant stand those limited minded guys masturbating in front of expensive DVDs , thinking they are tuff because they watch ultimate fighting.

guys like you , fallout , give me a better image of the fans , so thx.

Yeah, that is a huge problem. A lot of people show up to UFC events thinking that they will see a bloodbath. Boxing has that problem too, but its not as bad. When its not a farce of a match (e.g a 350 lb Sapp vs a 170 lb japanese pro wrestler) its a real treat to watch a MMA fight that took place in japan. Everyone is so quiet and when something really nice happens, like a submission or a reversal on the ground, everyone politey claps and then go quiet again.

Its like watching Tennis. Vegas is a bit better than the rest of the country. The worst places for uneducated fans seems to be on the rest coast, mainly atlantic city and miami.

Jesus Creed, You're going all Hojak on this thread...

Jesus Creed, You're going all Hojak on this thread...

I miss that wonderful bastard. I will never forget when he Kimmie roughneck and I went to Del Taco and he started beating the **** out of the speaker. That was priceless.