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Da Iceman
03-18-2006, 12:19 AM
name a former champ from any weightclass with a ****ed up record.
mines neon leon W 26 (14 ko's) | L 17 | D 3 | Total 46
http://www.autographedtoyou.com/celebpics/leon_spinks2.jpg

leow
03-18-2006, 06:39 AM
not only his record his haircut too

dangerousity
03-18-2006, 12:24 PM
Leon was pretty screwed up in the head, sad really because now he's a school janitor....
Sweeps roads and stuff

mokele
03-21-2006, 06:13 AM
Many years ago there was an excellent fighter who got off to a shaky start in his career, taking fights on short notice, not training seriously, etc. Although he had a lot of basic boxing talent it appeared to be going to waste. After 6 fights he was 2-4. After 15 fights he was 7-7-1. After 25 fights he was 12-12-1. Nobody in their right mind would have predicted that he would later turn his career around and win a belt for a world title.

Freddie Pendleton:

http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=489

showed signs of excellence here and there even while he was floundering with a roughly even record.

In April 1984 he went the distance with Hilmer Kenty.
In June 1984 he handed the 12-0 Tyrone Trice his 1st defeat.

Still taking fights on short notice in 1985, he lost to Adolfo Medel, Ricky Young, Joe Manley, Frankie "the surgeon" Randall and Jimmy Paul. That's great company even though he was losing. Perhaps he was slowly learning some tricks about the fight game.

Then in March 1986 something finally clicked. He was put in against Roger Mayweather as just an opponent who could give Roger a good fight but would almost certainly lose. He shocked everyone by stopping the 23-3 Mayweather in the 6th round. I remember watching that fight on TV.

In July 1986 he fought Frankie Randall to a draw. He was always fighting excellent fighters, winning some and losing some, but didn't get a shot at a world title until he fought Pernell Whitaker in 1990. He lost a unanimous decision but didn't disgrace himself.

Finally in 1993 he got another shot at a world title, fighting Tracy Spann for the vacant IBF Lightweight Title. They had fought to a draw a few months earlier, but this time Pendleton beat him. When Pendleton beat him his record was 32-17-4. Spann lost later that year to Ray Oliveira and called it quits. Pendleton held the title until he ran into Rafael Ruelas in Feb. 1994 in a fight that was televised here in the U.S. He beat Jorge Paez along the way. Ruelas beat Pendleton in a great fight that saw Rafael get off the canvas twice in the 1st round to slowly wear down Freddie. It was a memorable fight, a great performance for Ruelas and a disappointment for Pendleton.

Pendleton's last fight was a knockout loss to Ricky Hatton in Oct. 2001. Although not a great champion Pendleton had many good wins in his career, and perhaps is best known for the sheer number of fights he had with other world class fighters from lightweight through welterweight.

Final career record:
W 47 (34 ko's) | L 26 | D 5 | Total 78

mokele
03-21-2006, 06:21 AM
Leon was pretty screwed up in the head, sad really because now he's a school janitor....
Sweeps roads and stuff

Hey, we can't all be Einstein! Leon's doing the best he can as he always did. I wonder what his brother's up to do these days?

Dempsey 1919
03-21-2006, 04:00 PM
name a former champ from any weightclass with a ****ed up record.
mines neon leon W 26 (14 ko's) | L 17 | D 3 | Total 46
http://www.autographedtoyou.com/celebpics/leon_spinks2.jpg

what about this guy?

http://www.antekprizering.com/braddocktraining001.jpeg

http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=012072

Da Iceman
03-21-2006, 06:24 PM
braddok was a good fighter, after he lost in a light heavy title fight he was just a bum until he had to fight for his family then he started winning.

joker
03-21-2006, 07:52 PM
records aren't everything management is.

mokele
03-22-2006, 03:20 AM
Braddock was a good fighter. After he lost in a light heavy title fight he was just a bum until he had to fight for his family then he started winning.

Anyone who could outpoint Max Baer was good, plain and simple. Although Max sometimes clowned in the ring and often didn't train very well he had a big punch and was tall (6'3") with a long reach. The movie "Cinderella Man" portrayed Baer unfairly as a playboy with a temper and a ruthless manner in the ring. He was a celebrity and a bit of a ladies man, but nothing compared to Wilt Chamberlain! :o . After Baer killed Frankie Campbell in the ring he was so broken up about it that he paid for Campbell's 3 children to go through college. "Cinderella Man" also portrayed the Max Baer-Braddock fight as an exciting battle, which it wasn't. It was mostly a jabbing battle and neither fighter was seriously hurt during the fight.

Yogi
03-22-2006, 03:43 AM
Anyone who could outpoint Max Baer was good, plain and simple.

Yep, though nothing flashy about him as far as footwork or handspeed goes, Braddock was a good, tough and very well schooled fighter...Primarily an outside boxer, who possesed a good jab & right cross from out there. But he wasn't shy about coming inside either, and was pretty adept at that part of the game, as well (good uppercuts in there and his short hooks weren't bad either).

mokele
03-22-2006, 03:46 AM
Another guy who spent some time holding a world title belt was Mike Weaver:

http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=405

Weaver was 6-6 after his 1st 12 fights having just lost by knockout in July 1974 to 23-0 Duane Bobick. I remember him as a heavily muscled guy, but that was years later. He weighed under 200 lbs. for all of his 1st 13 fights.

After Weaver's loss to Bobick he had a pretty good run for the next few years. He went 13-2 until he was stopped by Larry Holmes in June 1979. Along the way he lost a 12 round decision to Leroy Jones, a giant heavyweight who suffered a detached retina and ended his career with only a single loss to Larry Holmes.

After Weaver was stopped by Holmes, few thought of him as much more than a good journeyman, someone who can give a world class fighter a good fight but probably lose.

However, Weaver was getting stronger as he got older, and got a shot at the WBA heavyweight title in March 1980 against "Big" John Tate. Well behind on points on all 3 cards going into the 15th round, a miracle happened. Weaver stopped Tate and became WBA heavyweight champ. He defended his title successfully twice, 1st against 23-1 Gerrie Coetzee Oct. 1980 and then against the 20-0 James "quick" Tillis Oct. 1981. Winning a decision against Tillis was a notable achievement, since Tillis was a fast, skilled boxer at that time and had never tasted defeat before. He next had 2 memorable fights with Michael Dokes. In the 1st fight he was stopped in the 1st round, but the stoppage was controversial. I can't remember the details. In May 1983 Weaver fought Dokes to a draw in their return match.

Weaver fought for a world title once more in June 1985 but was stopped in the 8th round by the 25-0 Pinklon Thomas.

Weaver fought on for many more years, losing a lot of fights but occasionally getting an impressive win against a world class fighter. He finally called it quits after losing in November 2000 against Larry Holmes. Weaver was 48 years old!

mokele
03-23-2006, 04:39 AM
I decided to look up Mike Weaver on google and found the following fine article, which has some details about his career that I didn't mention:

http://www.ringsidereport.com/bbb9032004.htm

McGoorty
08-07-2011, 07:59 AM
name a former champ from any weightclass with a ****ed up record.
mines neon leon W 26 (14 ko's) | L 17 | D 3 | Total 46
http://www.autographedtoyou.com/celebpics/leon_spinks2.jpg
My pick is Al McCoy, the lol MW champion of 94 years ago.

McGoorty
08-07-2011, 08:01 AM
name a former champ from any weightclass with a ****ed up record.
mines neon leon W 26 (14 ko's) | L 17 | D 3 | Total 46
http://www.autographedtoyou.com/celebpics/leon_spinks2.jpg
Trevor Berbick

Barn
08-07-2011, 09:34 AM
Fritzie Zivic has the most losses of any world champion I believe.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=9437&cat=boxer

GJC
08-07-2011, 11:30 AM
Fritzie Zivic has the most losses of any world champion I believe.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=9437&cat=boxer
That's what I've always believed too

IronDanHamza
08-07-2011, 11:37 AM
That's what I've always believed too

Fritzie Zivic has the most losses of any world champion I believe.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=9437&cat=boxer

You are both absolutely right.

goblin213
08-07-2011, 02:45 PM
Former jr. welterweight champion Saoul Mamby.
W 45(KO 19) L 34(KO 1) D 6

Former jr. flyweight champ Gilberto Keb Baas
W 35(KO 22) L 21(KO 6) D 4

RubenSonny
08-07-2011, 02:52 PM
Former jr. welterweight champion Saoul Mamby.
W 45(KO 19) L 34(KO 1) D 6

Former jr. flyweight champ Gilberto Keb Baas
W 35(KO 22) L 21(KO 6) D 4

I could swear Mamby is still fighting.

goblin213
08-07-2011, 02:57 PM
I could swear Mamby is still fighting.

I hope not. That would just mess up his legacy.

RubenSonny
08-07-2011, 02:59 PM
I hope not. That would just mess up his legacy.

Worse his health - Mamby is like 60.

GoogleMe
08-08-2011, 05:18 AM
Jim Braddock came to mind

McGoorty
08-09-2011, 02:32 PM
Jim Braddock came to mind
Satoshi SHINGAKI is up there with Al McCOY, Marvin Hart and,.... well there a quite a few isn't there,

hhascup
08-11-2011, 06:11 PM
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:DoNotOptimizeForBrowser/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]-->Francisco Quiroz finished with a record of 11-15-1

Here's some of the worse in other weight classes.

Aquiles Guzman was 14-14-3
Eddie Connolly was 25-21-17
Steve (Kid) Sullivan was 30-26-4
Mike Ballerino was 43-37-17
Johnny Jadick was 85-57-8
Saoul Mamby was 45-33-6
Wallace (Bud) Smith was 31-23-6
Joey Archibald was 61-42-5
Ricky Parkey was 22-20
Nico Thomas was 29-23
Manny Melchor was 38-35-6
JB Williamson was 26-16
Tommy (Spider) Kelly was 5-9-4 by boxrec and 24-11-4 (1 NC) by Ring Record Book.
Frankie Neil was 29-17-5
Monte Attell was 27-29-21 by boxrec and 46-38-21 (1 NC) by Ring Record Book.
Harold Dade was 43-30-6
Eleoncio Mercedes was 14-12-2
Leon Spinks was <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:DoNotOptimizeForBrowser/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]-->26-17-3

Fritzie Zivic had the most losses with 65
If you count Newspaper Decisions, Johnny Dundee lost 74 bouts

McGoorty
08-11-2011, 09:31 PM
Fritzie Zivic has the most losses of any world champion I believe.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=9437&cat=boxer
That might be true about Fritzie,....But Zivic would smash AL McCOY,.. easily, and Didn't Zivic defend his title a few times ??.... AL NcCOY defended after only 3 tears ONCE, And LOST..... In the intervening years, McCoy was beaten at least 6 to 10 times in Newspaper decisions.......... And HE & some other TOOLS thought That AL McCoy was THE Champion,..... I don't see it that way .....

Forza
08-11-2011, 11:28 PM
I just read that spinks now works at his local Mcdonalds. Damn, from beating Ali and taking his belt to flipping burgers. Ouch....................

ghns1133
08-11-2011, 11:40 PM
guts ishiamtsu

McGoorty
08-12-2011, 12:09 PM
guts ishiamtsu
I like Ol' GUTS........... an apt name, ain't it ????