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bigdlb12
01-26-2005, 11:52 AM
Like him, yes or no

marvelous_TG
01-26-2005, 11:54 AM
Like him, yes or no
I like him.

bigdlb12
01-26-2005, 11:56 AM
Can DLH beat PBF?

Can DLH beat Cotto?

Both at 147

marvelous_TG
01-26-2005, 12:02 PM
Can DLH beat PBF?

Can DLH beat Cotto?

Both at 147
I think he beats PBF, because of his reach, height strength, speed, power etc.

i think he beats cotto too, ot much experience, i think he would outbox cotto. cotto doesn't really hold any advantages over DLH.
punching power: DLH
speed:DLH
height:cotto 5'8 DLH 5'11
reach:cotto 68.5 DLH 73"
experience: DLH
better boxer:DLH
chin: equel

Chups
01-26-2005, 12:04 PM
He's ok so I voted yes.

SonnyG8R
01-26-2005, 12:06 PM
I've always liked Oscar, but I wonder if he isn't reaching the down side of his career. That being said I think he could hold his own against either guy at 147.

jabsRstiff
01-26-2005, 12:06 PM
No, I don't.

He makes the big fights, yes. He also has made some big fights straight up suck.

Bombardier
01-26-2005, 12:13 PM
I used to not be able to stand the guy, but I voted yes. I still can't watch any of his fights unless they involve other fighters I like (Hopkins, Trinidad). Thing is though the guy is just what the sport needs right now. His Golden Boy promotions might save boxing. He runs the company honestly and genuinely wants to promote the sport, not himself (well, not just himself, at any rate). Getting Hopkins on board was genius, and now other fighter like Jones Jr. are getting into the promotion business. Hopefully King and Arum will be nothing but bad memories in a few years.

puppy_dogg
01-26-2005, 12:16 PM
always liked oscar, i dont know whats not to like about him as a fighter

jabsRstiff
01-26-2005, 12:18 PM
always liked oscar, i dont know whats not to like about him as a fighter


He's been the main reason the majority of his bigger fights have kinda sucked.

jabsRstiff
01-26-2005, 12:19 PM
He also quit against Hopkins.

puppy_dogg
01-26-2005, 12:25 PM
:D you dont know for sure that he quit, its impossible to be certain about it. lol, you would debate to the end of time about his ko to hopkins would'nt you? :p

jabsRstiff
01-26-2005, 12:28 PM
:D you dont know for sure that he quit, its impossible to be certain about it. lol, you would debate to the end of time about his ko to hopkins would'nt you? :p


I would....because I've been watching boxing, involved with boxing....for 24 years.
Two things I know of & love....are KO's, & KO fighters.

I know what I saw that night.

jabsRstiff
01-26-2005, 12:29 PM
I didn't see what I saw because I hate Oscar....I hate Oscar because of what I saw.

puppy_dogg
01-26-2005, 12:34 PM
fair enough, i respect everyone's personal opinion but let me ask you this, if it were up to you would you put him in the hall of fame?

jabsRstiff
01-26-2005, 01:37 PM
fair enough, i respect everyone's personal opinion but let me ask you this, if it were up to you would you put him in the hall of fame?


Yes, definitely.

I'd hold his quit job against him....but that doesn't diminish an overall very impressive body of work.

I wouldn't let "No mas" keep Duran out.

Mr. Ryan
01-26-2005, 01:44 PM
I am a fan of De La Hoya because he fights the big fights, unlike alot of the top fighters. Look at the guys he's taken on:

Rafael Ruelas
Genaro Hernandez
Julio Cesar Chavez
Pernell Whitaker
Ike Quartey
Felix Trinidad
Shane Mosley
Fernando Vargas
Bernard Hopkins

He comes to fight the fight of his life always, has a good chin, and takes on the best opposition.

jabsRstiff
01-26-2005, 01:50 PM
"He comes to fight the fight of his life always,"


I thought he fought tentatively & foolishly against Trinidad & Mosley (fight#2).
I thought he fought tentatively for the majority of his fight with Quartey.

I thought he had no interest in beating Hopkins....He was only interested in not getting killed.

I'd rather he have never fought Hopkins or Trinidad at all, than fight them the way he did.

Mr. Ryan
01-26-2005, 01:55 PM
"He comes to fight the fight of his life always,"


I thought he fought tentatively & foolishly against Trinidad & Mosley (fight#2).
I thought he fought tentatively for the majority of his fight with Quartey.

I thought he had no interest in beating Hopkins....He was only interested in not getting killed.

I'd rather he have never fought Hopkins or Trinidad at all, than fight them the way he did.
He wasn't tentative against Quartey, he was being severely outjabbed. Jabs have always given him trouble. In the Trinidad and Mosley rematch, he was fighting the perfect fight in his mind. If he would've gotten foolish against Trinidad, he would've gotten KO'ed. Against Hopkins, he had no business in there with that big a guy. But DLH was the aggressor.

bigdlb12
01-26-2005, 02:09 PM
more yes than no's, wow I had no idea

marvdave
01-26-2005, 02:44 PM
one of my favorites. He is unfairly judged becuase he is a pretty boy. He always fights top guys. Alot of his "big" fights are stinkers, but respect for trying. I also question the Hopkins punch, but I choose to give him a pass this time becuase of his "body" of work...pun intended.

jabsRstiff
01-26-2005, 02:55 PM
He wasn't tentative against Quartey, he was being severely outjabbed. Jabs have always given him trouble. In the Trinidad and Mosley rematch, he was fighting the perfect fight in his mind. If he would've gotten foolish against Trinidad, he would've gotten KO'ed. Against Hopkins, he had no business in there with that big a guy. But DLH was the aggressor.


He did lose the Trinidad fight, didn't he ?
Why ? Because he overexecuted his plan like a ring dummy !
The way to beat Trinidad is NOT to run around the ring, love-tapping him.
You better hit Trinidad with enough to make sure he has had something taken out of him (Hopkins brilliantly did this).

He fought the same dumb-ass way against Mosley.
He didn't put enough of a hurt on Moes to keep him from being effective down the stretch. That is why you saw the same guy who looked like a midget against Wright & Forrest playing the role of the bigger guy with Oscar.

The Fix
01-26-2005, 02:57 PM
i dont like him but i admit that he is a very good fighter

SweetScience
01-26-2005, 03:10 PM
Oscar's best performance was against damage goods Vargas, who was not actually a world-beater.

borikua
01-26-2005, 03:49 PM
I don't like that fraud...his last competitive fight was the Vargas fight...

borikua
01-26-2005, 03:54 PM
He and Mosley will get KTFO at welter...they will feel weak once they go back down in weight...

phallus
01-26-2005, 11:52 PM
He and Mosley will get KTFO at welter...they will feel weak once they go back down in weight...


nah, they'll feel safe because they're both natural welters. i'd like to see Occar fight Cotto, though, Miguels' power will feel like nothing after taking shots from Hopkins. dlh will beat Cotto unless he lets the fight slip away like he did with Tito

adeelr
01-27-2005, 02:14 AM
everyone has to believe in dela hoya, he has been a warrior throughout his career and hasn't lost his hunger, PBF cant beat him. Cotto is inexperienced and DLH will punish him..DLH should fight shane Mosley and knockhim out, shane is nobody i dont know how he got away with 2 wins over DLH..

AintGottaClue
01-27-2005, 02:26 PM
no he stole sturms title

Mr. Ryan
01-27-2005, 03:33 PM
He did lose the Trinidad fight, didn't he ?

I don't think there was a winner in my opinion.

onikami
01-27-2005, 05:28 PM
The guys is a ****ing legend. What more do you need to say?

Mikeystlasvegas22
01-27-2005, 05:32 PM
i dont like him but i admit that he is a very good fighter


THE FIRST FIGHT WITH MOSLEY HE LOOKED IN GOOD SHAPE HES HAD IT WON BUT THE JUDGES SCREWED HIM. I DO LIKE HIS FIGHTS AND LIKE, OR THE FIGHT WITH VARGAS ****Y VARGAS PUSHES OSCAR AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENS TO VARGAS THAT NIGHT THEY FOUGHT

PBDS
01-27-2005, 05:40 PM
Like him, yes or no


....I rooted for him against Tito and Mosley. I think he is a little overated but whats not to like about the guy. Nice, well spoken, skilled boxer, with a definite future outside the ring.

elveiel
01-27-2005, 05:59 PM
Do i like DLH,

As a Fighter = Yes
As a Personality = No

jabsRstiff
01-28-2005, 07:27 AM
I don't think there was a winner in my opinion.

That's what I think. But, that doesn't mean Oscar didn't lose the fight.

He fought a stupid fight....be it because he actually thought too much, or because he really doesn't have the proper balls...
either way, he went out there & fought a dumb fight.

bigdlb12
02-11-2005, 01:35 PM
Vargas Doesnt

http://www.lvrj.com/lvrj_home/2002/Aug-18-Sun-2002/photos/hoya.jpg

bigdlb12
02-11-2005, 01:38 PM
http://www.insideboxing.com/Columnist/frank_gonzalez/photos/dlhwhoopsvargas.jpg

AintGottaClue
02-11-2005, 02:30 PM
i dont liek peopel who steal liek DLH did

loangunZ
02-11-2005, 02:33 PM
I like em, can't wait to see his next fight

ottoevans
02-11-2005, 04:19 PM
one of the best of all time. has only lost 1 fight in my opinion

AintGottaClue
02-11-2005, 04:41 PM
one of the best of all time. has only lost 1 fight in my opinion

u mean 2 right? a KO lost to B-hop and a bad whooping by sturm

bigdlb12
02-11-2005, 04:53 PM
i dont liek peopel who steal liek DLH did
DLH doesnt steal, if that was the case then he would have gotten the W from Trinidad,Mosley 2.
I heard DLH doesnt like people who cant spell ;)

joeboxer
02-11-2005, 05:14 PM
Ya all fighters who go to the cards get some lucky decisions and then they get robbed sometimes too.

Marcos
02-12-2005, 12:26 PM
One thing that can't be ignored, though I feel he is a great boxer (one of the best in the last 2 decades) The guy is down right smart! A great business man!
Has done great for boxing as a fighter and will do even more for boxing as a promoter.

Unlike King and Arum, He's a fighters promoter.
Nothing wrong with helping the sport you love and make money in the process.

Slipx
02-12-2005, 03:42 PM
DLH doesnt steal, if that was the case then he would have gotten the W from Trinidad,Mosley 2.
I heard DLH doesnt like people who cant spell ;)


w/e fanboi he clearly stole the sturm bout. that fight wasn't even remotely close, dlh got his ass handed to him, and if you disagree then I question if you even watched the same fight

dont play

Tha Greatest
02-16-2005, 12:33 AM
i dont liek peopel who steal liek DLH did
shut up!!!

trinidadpr87
02-16-2005, 03:35 PM
Did anyone see him on best damn sports show last night?They asked him about the body shot that Hopkins gave him and he said it still hurts(fooling around)than he grabbed his left side(the body shot was on his right side.

Tha Greatest
02-16-2005, 04:29 PM
Did anyone see him on best damn sports show last night?They asked him about the body shot that Hopkins gave him and he said it still hurts(fooling around)than he grabbed his left side(the body shot was on his right side.

lol no i didnt see it

if he was jokin then it dont matter what side it iwas

bigdlb12
02-16-2005, 04:54 PM
w/e fanboi he clearly stole the sturm bout. that fight wasn't even remotely close, dlh got his ass handed to him, and if you disagree then I question if you even watched the same fight

dont playOK I guess you are right :rolleyes: DLH got his ass handle :boxing: and the fight wasnt even close :eek: , now you are talking about the Sturm vs DLH fight or are you talking about the DLH vs Sturm fight? Cause no matter what you say or think, the fact of the matter is that it was indeed a close fight, could have gone either way, so dont be :(

AintGottaClue
02-16-2005, 06:06 PM
OK I guess you are right :rolleyes: DLH got his ass handle :boxing: and the fight wasnt even close :eek: , now you are talking about the Sturm vs DLH fight or are you talking about the DLH vs Sturm fight? Cause no matter what you say or think, the fact of the matter is that it was indeed a close fight, could have gone either way, so dont be :(


a close fight ha ha ha woo i dont care how much people hate me or sturm but 98% of them will say he won and thats that

trinidadpr87
02-16-2005, 06:10 PM
a close fight ha ha ha woo i dont care how much people hate me or sturm but 98% of them will say he won and thats that
Is was a close fight,i had sturm winning by a round. :boxing: (I aint german)

AintGottaClue
02-16-2005, 06:11 PM
Is was a close fight,i had sturm winning by a round. :boxing: (I aint german)


nope srry u said sturm won u r german how it works around here deal

trinidadpr87
02-16-2005, 06:16 PM
nope srry u said sturm won u r german how it works around here deal
I guess im going to have to change my username to trinidadgr87. :D

AintGottaClue
02-16-2005, 06:18 PM
I guess im going to have to change my username to trinidadgr87. :D

pretty much or lose all yr karma

trinidadpr87
02-16-2005, 06:20 PM
I thought a lot of people thought Sturm won.

ottoevans
02-16-2005, 06:25 PM
whos Sturm??

AintGottaClue
02-16-2005, 06:27 PM
whos Sturm??


future middlewieght champ of the world and he can beat tito

trinidadpr87
02-16-2005, 06:30 PM
future middlewieght champ of the world and he can beat tito
I'd like to see him fight someone like Fernando Vargas.

ottoevans
02-16-2005, 06:31 PM
i dunno about that, i think Tito would lose to any boxer(not slugger) in the middleweight division whos decent. But i dont think Sturm has the movement to back away from the bombs tito has, and he definetly does not have any power to hurt him

AintGottaClue
02-16-2005, 06:34 PM
i dunno about that, i think Tito would lose to any boxer(not slugger) in the middleweight division whos decent. But i dont think Sturm has the movement to back away from the bombs tito has, and he definetly does not have any power to hurt him


im guessing u only saw him in DLH fight right?

ottoevans
02-16-2005, 06:38 PM
yeah ur right i cant assume he doesnt move cause ive only seen him in one fight. But i know he doesnt have any power

AintGottaClue
02-16-2005, 06:45 PM
yeah ur right i cant assume he doesnt move cause ive only seen him in one fight. But i know he doesnt have any power

he does move alot actually but you would have to watch his older fights cause

in DLH he stood toe to toe with DLH cause he is sturms hero

in frazier sturm didnt move cause fraizer was runnign around the ring liek a mad man and sturm had to stalk him for a while

KO'd cheriffi in 3 rounds and didnt have time.

so i can see why people say tito would beat sturm cause im guessing they see sturm standing in front of tito liek he did with DLH that is not true actually go back to round 3 of that fight and listen what larry merchant said. that is why i think sturm will beat tito he will do the exact same thing oscar did, use his monster left jab to stop tito and stay away from him.