jack_the_rippuh
01-26-2005, 08:59 AM
This fight is becoming more and more possible..
Is De La Hoya finished, who do you think would win this fight?
Is De La Hoya finished, who do you think would win this fight?
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View Full Version : The Golden Boy vs. Pretty Boy jack_the_rippuh 01-26-2005, 08:59 AM This fight is becoming more and more possible.. Is De La Hoya finished, who do you think would win this fight? Truth 01-26-2005, 09:02 AM This fight is becoming more and more possible.. Is De La Hoya finished, who do you think would win this fight? I am saying this from a boxing fan perspective, I think Mayweather would win. I just think that he is the best right now as far as skill, speed and defense and would give De La Hoya trouble. markosg19 01-26-2005, 09:04 AM Oscar will box a very mature fight and box floyd systematically! His advantages in size and strngth at 147 will be too much for floyd. Oscar on pts marvelous_TG 01-26-2005, 09:05 AM DLH wins this fight on points, he's too big for floyd. DLH 5'11 reach:73" PBF 5'7 reach:72"he has a good reach The only way PBF is gonna win is by outboxing DLH, wich i don't think he will. DLH is bigger, stronger, more powerfull. and he's very fast too, he will be the best opponent floyd has ever faced. i think DLH will win this fight on points, with not too much trouble. PS: i recalled DLH saying he would never fight floyd because he is trained by floyd his father. jack_the_rippuh 01-26-2005, 09:47 AM DLH wins this fight on points, he's too big for floyd. DLH 5'11 reach:73" PBF 5'7 reach:72"he has a good reach The only way PBF is gonna win is by outboxing DLH, wich i don't think he will. DLH is bigger, stronger, more powerfull. and he's very fast too, he will be the best opponent floyd has ever faced. i think DLH will win this fight on points, with not too much trouble. PS: i recalled DLH saying he would never fight floyd because he is trained by floyd his father. Well what if Mayweather captures a couple belts at 147. De La Hoya would like to be champ at that division.. I think he fears the fact that Floyd is a big risk with little rewards. It won't look good for De La Hoya if he was to lose t Floyd.. jabsRstiff 01-26-2005, 09:53 AM Oscar DeLaHoya has never, & will never, outbox another boxer. I don't care how much bigger he is than Floyd, he won't beat Floyd at his own game. Oscar would need to be very physical with Floyd....he'd need to impose his size & power advantages on him..... But, I can see Oscar coming out & fighting with the overly tentatitve & always pussified type of approach he offers in the majority of his bigger fights. jack_the_rippuh 01-26-2005, 09:56 AM Oscar DeLaHoya has never, & will never, outbox another boxer. I don't care how much bigger he is than Floyd, he won't beat Floyd at his own game. Oscar would need to be very physical with Floyd....he'd need to impose his size & power advantages on him..... But, I can see Oscar coming out & fighting with the overly tentatitve & always pussified type of approach he offers in the majority of his bigger fights. So you think Mayweather will beat him? Do you think he'll outpoint him or stop him? From what we seen in De La Hoya's last fight, he doesn't like getting hit the body too much.. marvelous_TG 01-26-2005, 09:57 AM Well what if Mayweather captures a couple belts at 147. De La Hoya would like to be champ at that division.. I think he fears the fact that Floyd is a big risk with little rewards. It won't look good for De La Hoya if he was to lose t Floyd.. maybe, but i don't think DLH would lose to PBF unless his confidence is shot after the KO loss to mr. hopkins. but yes if PBF becomes champ at 147 than DLH will have no choise but to fight him. i think mosley will beat PBF too, just read an article about him where he said "i'm gonna be a monster at welterweight" he says he will go to the body early and will start punching with bad intentions. The future is bright for 147 you have mosley, margarito, spinks, judah, DLH, cintron, and soon probably tszyu and cotto, and mitchell will go up to, but he will get KTFO by everybody :cool: jabsRstiff 01-26-2005, 09:59 AM I would actually pick Floyd to win at 147... Not something I'd lay money on....more like a hunch. One thing Oscar DeLaHoya cannot do.....& that's boxing & being offensively dominant at the same time. Nor can he be aggressive & defensively sound at the same time. So, against Floyd, he better go for broke & hope to overwhelm him. jack_the_rippuh 01-26-2005, 09:59 AM maybe, but i don't think DLH would lose to PBF unless his confidence is shot after the KO loss to mr. hopkins. but yes if PBF becomes champ at 147 than DLH will have no choise but to fight him. i think mosley will beat PBF too, just read an article about him where he said "i'm gonna be a monster at welterweight" he says he will go to the body early and will start punching with bad intentions. The future is bright for 147 you have mosley, margarito, spinks, judah, DLH, cintron, and soon probably tszyu and cotto, and mitchell will go up to, but he will get KTFO by everybody :cool: He claims he'll be reckless in the ring at 147, but that will all change when he tastes any bit of power from someone who can punch accurately.. Everyone now knows the key to beating Mosley is the jab. riz 01-26-2005, 10:24 AM gotta go with DLH, size and strength, plus his speed is excellent, he'll stick that jab in floyds face all night long DLH on UD12 jabsRstiff 01-26-2005, 10:39 AM gotta go with DLH, size and strength, plus his speed is excellent, he'll stick that jab in floyds face all night long DLH on UD12 Floyd has never been vulnerable to anyone's jab. Oscar has been befuddled by the jabs of Mosley & Oba Carr. Bryght 01-26-2005, 10:48 AM Why would Oscar risk another blowout loss so soon after his last three disasters? Everyone knows that he lost the fight against Felix Sturm...good thing that the judges were in Oscar's pocket. Mayweather by late KO. marvelous_TG 01-26-2005, 11:14 AM Why would Oscar risk another blowout loss so soon after his last three disasters? Everyone knows that he lost the fight against Felix Sturm...good thing that the judges were in Oscar's pocket. Mayweather by late KO. i can understand if you say mayweather decision but by KO mayweather at 147? DLH who's got a good chin? no way does mayweather KO's DLH m00ks 01-26-2005, 11:18 AM Why would Oscar risk another blowout loss so soon after his last three disasters? Everyone knows that he lost the fight against Felix Sturm...good thing that the judges were in Oscar's pocket. Mayweather by late KO. He "loss" to Felix Sturm cuz of the latters lazer jab and turtle defense that just absorbed the DeLaHoya flurries. He didn't have the stamina to box in that fight. When Sturm switched southpaws, DLH ran out of things to do. He played a perfect chess game and got robbed of a decision. It's so hard to bet against DLH specially when he's the bigger, stronger fighter. So I dunno, I'lll have to see him fight at 147 before anything. IwatchBoxing 01-26-2005, 11:21 AM Oscar would be, Mayweathers Hopkins. Explosivo 01-26-2005, 11:27 AM If they do fight and Mayweather wins I hope no one gives him any credit the same way people dont give Oscar any credit when he beats an aging fighter. Saying that, I still think Oscar wins and probably KO's Floyd. Floydmayweather 01-26-2005, 11:29 AM Of course they will give him credit. He is naturally much smaller than DLH and a win would put him on top of the sport. #1 p4p Explosivo 01-26-2005, 11:35 AM But surely you know what I mean. When Oscar beat Ike Quartey and JCC people didnt give Oscar credit for ****. bigdlb12 01-26-2005, 11:41 AM DLH would take PBF to the cleaners. PBF has yet to face anyone near the level of DLH, especialy @ 147 bigdlb12 01-26-2005, 11:42 AM But surely you know what I mean. When Oscar beat Ike Quartey and JCC people didnt give Oscar credit for ****.and they still dont, I believe the word I am looking for is , Haters ;) Explosivo 01-26-2005, 12:04 PM and they still dont, I believe the word I am looking for is , Haters ;) I wasnt going to go there but your exactly right. If PBF beat DLH people here would act like hes the second coming of Christ. DLH beats some great fighters who may have been a little past their prime and he doest get credit for ****. This whole thing about Oscar being naturally bigger is bull**** too. You people have to remember how little Oscar was when he started to fight pro. guru 01-26-2005, 12:14 PM i'd take oscar cause of height/reach/size... he's almost as fast as floyd with his hands.... i think it'd be a stinker fight with oscar getting a thin decision.... Floydmayweather 01-26-2005, 01:29 PM I see what u mean. Mr. Ryan 01-26-2005, 01:36 PM I think De La Hoya is too big for Mayweather. Mayweather-DLH would be a boring ass fight. riz 01-26-2005, 01:52 PM for sure DLH, too big for mayweather i think Sir_Jose 01-26-2005, 04:30 PM This fight is becoming more and more possible.. Is De La Hoya finished, who do you think would win this fight? Easy fight for DLH. He's just way to strong for Floyd. MetalVomit 01-26-2005, 04:35 PM I am saying this from a boxing fan perspective, I think Mayweather would win. I just think that he is the best right now as far as skill, speed and defense and would give De La Hoya trouble. Oscar is too big, has too much power, and has a very good chin. Floyd would be biting off more than he could chew, much like Oscar did against Bernard. De La Hoya is a fast, skilled powerful counterpuncher and would give better than he takes from mayweather. MetalVomit 01-26-2005, 04:37 PM and they still dont, I believe the word I am looking for is , Haters ;) nice avatar. Yeah, JCC was past his prime, and I think the Ike fight was close, but that 12th round sealed the deal and Oscar deserves credit for both fights. Floyd is a amazing fighter, but Oscar will take him out if they fight. bigdlb12 01-26-2005, 04:48 PM I wasnt going to go there but your exactly right. If PBF beat DLH people here would act like hes the second coming of Christ. DLH beats some great fighters who may have been a little past their prime and he doest get credit for ****. This whole thing about Oscar being naturally bigger is bull**** too. You people have to remember how little Oscar was when he started to fight pro. Oscar may still have a few 3or 4 good fights in him, maybe a DLH vs PBF,Kostya,spinks or Zab and closing the career with a cotto fight, at that time cotto should be on the top of his game dino 01-27-2005, 04:52 AM mayweather is too small...de la hoya is nasty at 147 The Golden Boy 01-27-2005, 05:13 AM Oscar would be, Mayweathers Hopkins. Really, thats all that has to be said. chito 01-27-2005, 06:32 AM it could be very interesting match-up but will dela hoya bite it? dela hoya's pride is too much that he won't take this match very seriously. jabsRstiff 01-27-2005, 07:22 AM mayweather is too small...de la hoya is nasty at 147 Really ? Last I saw him at 147 was almost 5 years ago....& he was LOSING to a guy who had only two prior fights at 147, after coming up from 135. Oscar was supposed to be way too big & powerful for Shane Mosley, wasn't he ? diz82 01-27-2005, 08:03 AM Pretty boy aint got a chance diz82 01-27-2005, 08:04 AM Oscars just too good and too big pinaldino 01-27-2005, 08:14 AM Really ? Last I saw him at 147 was almost 5 years ago....& he was LOSING to a guy who had only two prior fights at 147, after coming up from 135. Oscar was supposed to be way too big & powerful for Shane Mosley, wasn't he ? nah he never was jabsRstiff 01-27-2005, 08:34 AM The conscensus back in 2000 was that Shane Mosley was not a real welter, & that Oscar would simply overpower him. ****, I thought that was the case myself. SonnyJ 01-27-2005, 08:51 AM mayweather pulls out a surprise split decision. Pullcounter 01-27-2005, 09:42 AM PBF wins a close fight. DLH is outspeed and outboxed. AintGottaClue 01-27-2005, 02:23 PM we all wanna see DLH/tszyu who cares about PBF it wont happen cause dlh trains with his father what is he suppsoe to do fire him Silverfox 01-27-2005, 11:40 PM Oscar DeLaHoya has never, & will never, outbox another boxer. I don't care how much bigger he is than Floyd, he won't beat Floyd at his own game. Oscar would need to be very physical with Floyd....he'd need to impose his size & power advantages on him..... But, I can see Oscar coming out & fighting with the overly tentatitve & always pussified type of approach he offers in the majority of his bigger fights. Oscar is finished as a top contendor. He has slowed down with the weight increase and has not increased in power, as he should have. He should hang up his gloves before some damage is done. Macho, ego bull****! miron_lang 01-28-2005, 02:52 AM This fight is becoming more and more possible.. Is De La Hoya finished, who do you think would win this fight? ODLH rolled over guys physically smaller than him. The version that destroys arturo gatti would be too much for PBF IMO. BUT Oscar's performance as of late clearly shows that he's on the downward path of his career. If the fight happens at 140 Mayweather by UD, but at 147 Oscar might have a chance but if its really close judges will give it to floyd. (e.g Mosley II ). mayweather by thin decision.... Neuraxis 01-28-2005, 02:53 AM DLH would destroy PBF at 147 lbs. Why are we even discussing this? miron_lang 01-28-2005, 02:57 AM DLH would destroy PBF at 147 lbs. Why are we even discussing this? What makes you so sure? Dela Hoya has slowed down he is older and pbf is just peaking. Neuraxis 01-28-2005, 03:03 AM What makes you so sure? Dela Hoya has slowed down he is older and pbf is just peaking. I wouldn't know whether PBF is peaking or not. Corley and Bruseles are not championship quality opponents. And then again neither is Gatti. DLH is up way too far in weight and in case you missed out he won more rounds against Hopkins than Trinidad did. miron_lang 01-28-2005, 03:16 AM he won more rounds against Hopkins than Trinidad did. Yeah but he lasted 4 rounds less. Im not saying PBF will surely beat DLH or he's favored to win but he's chance is greater than what you're insinuating. AeroSixxDynamite 01-28-2005, 04:02 AM The last time PBF's power was a serious threat was at 130. PBF has a significant size and power disadvantage against frickin' Arturo Gatti and Diego Coralles. Imagine how big of a despairity it would be with DLH. It would be like man against child. Not to mention that DLH is a skilled, athletic, experienced, and tough boxer in his own right regardless of size, who has tasted the power of the big boys, and believe it or not, that kind of stuff toughens you up mentally. DLH weathered the deadly barrage of a roided' up Fernando Vargas to knock him out....Mayweather cannot hurt DLH. DLH, on the other hand, can take Mayweather's head off. DLH by decapitation in rounds 8 or 9 I believe that the new DLH will be less athletic, less reckless, but much tougher, much smarter, much stronger, and much more experienced. Counter Puncher 01-28-2005, 04:45 AM I don't think PBF could and would slug it out with DLH, so it will be a "catch me if you can" defensive game for Floyd, with DLH having also the height advantage. But if DLH catches him, it would be over by KO. If not and he counters effectively, PBF by SD. Just my opinion. :o Counter Puncher 01-28-2005, 04:50 AM Yeah but he lasted 4 rounds less. Im not saying PBF will surely beat DLH or he's favored to win but he's chance is greater than what you're insinuating. Bro, marami ka nakalabas na points, daming kawatan d2 di ba? I banko mo na siguro. Wala lang... miron_lang 01-28-2005, 06:36 AM Bro, marami ka nakalabas na points, daming kawatan d2 di ba? I banko mo na siguro. Wala lang... Salamat pre. ok lang yan pre. di na papatulan ng mga ugok yan. me 200+ M ako sa bangko pre. ang laki ng interes :D bonafuwa 01-28-2005, 07:26 AM All I know is there is no way in hell Mayweather can stop De La Hoya. The best Floyd can hope for is to win on points. On the other hand, De La Hoya can very well knock Mayweather out. If this fight happens soon, I favor De La Hoya on points. The size differential, plus I don't think Floyd can hurt Oscar, is enough to give De La Hoya confidence to attack and execute his game plan. Floydmayweather 01-28-2005, 01:26 PM Floyd would have to punch and run then he has a chance otherwise DLH is to big. |