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realheavyhands 03-09-2006, 08:37 AM Jones in the frame for Calzaghe
Joe Calzaghe is being lined up to fight American legend Roy Jones Jr in July.
Calzaghe's stock has rocketed following his masterful points win over Jeff Lacy in Manchester on Sunday morning and he now has a raft of lucrative options.
"We are looking at July next and the ideal opponent would be Roy Jones," said Calzaghe's promoter Frank Warren. "I am sure Joe would do a job on him.
"But Joe will take a break and we'll talk to the TV companies because Joe's reputation has risen significantly."
The IBF and WBO super middleweight champion's biggest decision is whether to remain at 12 stone and attempt to unify the remaining two portions of the title or move up to the more lucrative light heavyweight division.
Neither of the other two super middleweight champions, Mikkel Kessler or Markus Beyer, are big names in America, while Jones is big box office.
Light heavyweight might represent Joe's future and Roy Jones is a fight I would make in a flash
Frank Warren
Calzaghe's promoter
Jones, 37, is a four-weight world champion but has lost his last three fights, twice to former light heavyweight king Antonio Tarver.
Tarver has also been mentioned as a possible opponent, but he is set to fight former undisputed middleweight champion Bernard Hopkins in June.
Another possible opponent is Sheffield's IBF light heavyweight champion Clinton Woods, who has been angling for a match with Calzaghe for some time.
Warren said: "Clinton Woods would be a decent fight but it would be difficult to make and it might also be seen as a step backwards for Joe by those in the United States.
"The same goes for the other super middleweight champions which is why light heavyweight might represent Joe's future and why Roy Jones is a fight I would make in a flash."
Dugo Salapi 03-09-2006, 08:46 AM would beating jones mean anything ?
hes lost his last 3 fights, 2 by brutal ko
SquareCircle 03-09-2006, 08:47 AM wouldnt mean dick but it would be a 45.99 ppv he just wants his meal ticket and resume buffed(calzaghe)
GunStar 03-09-2006, 09:05 AM I will not pay to see this fight. I think Cal should fight Kessler or Glen Johnson in June instead of Jones.
SquareCircle 03-09-2006, 09:11 AM where does roy get has balls?
The Wire 03-09-2006, 09:18 AM This is ****ing ridiculous, worse than Judah/Mayweather. What has Calzaghe got to gain from this fight? He has to dominate Roy Jones just to keep his rep where it is. It wont improve it at all. What does beating a shot Roy Jones prove? And Frank Warren, who has gone up in my estimation recently and who i think should still be promoting Hatton, is off his head. He has been saying over and over that Roy is shot, and before that he said Jones wasnt as good as he thought he was. And if Calzaghe loses then everything that he did against Lacy will be, rightly, forgotten. Clinton Woods has a reason to fight Roy - he could avenge a loss and it would look good on Woods' record. Calzaghe is a level above though and should absolutely NOT fight Roy Jones. It would do nothing for his legacy, and would basically mean his is wasting yet another fight. There are loads of people that would fight Calzaghe. Kessler, Green, Glen Johnson, Antonio Tarver, Clinton Woods, Adamek, Zsolt Erdei - all these fights would be much, much more meaningful than a Roy Jones fight.
Can you tell I'm just a TAD against Calzaghe/Jones!?
GunStar 03-09-2006, 09:19 AM where does roy get has balls?If Roy beats Cal, it will be a good comeback for his career. I don't see Cal knocking him out, I will give Roid a chance to win this, even today.
Dark Destroyer 03-09-2006, 09:25 AM I agree with some comments that have been made already, this fight is pretty pointless. The only person who this could benefit would be Roy and that would only be because if he won he would get more big paydays again and another chance at the big titles. If this fight does happen i know in my mind that Calzaghe will win but it will gain him nothing as Roy has already been beaten by 2 fighters who i persopnally would not call greats at all.
Kessler or Beyer are good fights for Calzaghe or a British matchup against Clinton Woods. He has everything to gain from these guys :)
As everyone has already stated, this fight is pointless.
Joe wins, then people will question him. He has to knock him out, and even then, he is still supposed too.
Roy wins, and Joe is called overrated.
Bad fight.
TheHoff! 03-09-2006, 09:51 AM This fight shouldnt happen. If Calzaghe wins it'll prove nothing as Jones is shot...and if Jones wins (which I dont think theres any chance of) then I dont think it will do that much for his reputation or legacy because people will go back to saying that Calzaghe slaps and has no power. The question marks over Jones' glass jaw will still remain.
If this fight gets made the only reason for it happening is because Jones is still big box office and Calzaghe wants a big pay day after being in the shadows for so long. The fight itself will be meaningless and imo result in a comfortable win for Calzaghe.
A Jones v. Calzaghe makes little sense unless...
If Joe and Mr. Waren come over to America and smoke Jones then it serves as a wonderful advertisement for the big upcoming fight with Toney Tarver.
Calzaghe is still relitively unkown here in the states, fighting Roy in this state of his career would be a walk in the park and it would set the stage for a real showdown.
I know Clinton Woods would be real big in Wales but cmon does anyone on the palanet think Woods is gonna beat Joe? Roy aint gonna beat him either but Calzaghe needs the marketing before a fight with Tarver and Roy may be the perfect lamb to provide that marketing.
Thanks Roy-all we need from you is one more KO.
JoeTheRock7 03-09-2006, 10:04 AM Yo if this fight happens which i hope it does because I am a big fan of Roy Jones, then i got RJJ with no bias. Calzaghe beat the **** out of Lacy who has a totally different style then RJJ. I got Roy by KO in ten.
Yo if this fight happens which i hope it does because I am a big fan of Roy Jones, then i got RJJ with no bias. Calzaghe beat the **** out of Lacy who has a totally different style then RJJ. I got Roy by KO in ten.
The chances of Roy Ko-ing you let alone Calzaghe are zero.
Roy is not a serious fighter anymore, the faster you realize this the better off you will be.
Calzaghe will beat him down eerily similiar to the fashion in which Glenn Johnson beat him. (Roy cant handle someone who will go straight at him and attack)
If Roy has any shot at all he will have to let his hands go for 12 rounds, meaning he needs to throw 50-60-70 punches a round to keep Joe off-at this stage that is impossible.
DIEGO DA HITMAN 03-09-2006, 10:17 AM Roy Jones has looked like ass for a couple years now, and Calzaghe put on the best performance of his career last week, arguably. Calzaghe will pick Jones apart at this point of his career, and I could easily see Roy getting stopped. If Jones was in his prime, this would have Fight of the Year written all over it. Now, Calzaghe's going to use Jones as a stepping stone, and to collect a fat paycheck. I won't criticize Joe for this, he's earned it.
DIEGO DA HITMAN 03-09-2006, 10:20 AM The chances of Roy Ko-ing you let alone Calzaghe are zero.
Roy is not a serious fighter anymore, the faster you realize this the better off you will be.
Calzaghe will beat him down eerily similiar to the fashion in which Glenn Johnson beat him. (Roy cant handle someone who will go straight at him and attack)
If Roy has any shot at all he will have to let his hands go for 12 rounds, meaning he needs to throw 50-60-70 punches a round to keep Joe off-at this stage that is impossible.
I hate to say it, but you're right. Roy throwing his hands for 12 rounds isn't going to happen. This is the same guy who was overcome with joy because Tarver didn't KO him in the last bout of their trilogy. Calzaghe doesn't knock guys out with one punch, he wears them down with flurry after flurry; however, I could see him KO'ing Jones with one big shot, because Jones is shot.
RAESAAD 03-09-2006, 10:20 AM I will not pay to see this fight. I think Cal should fight Kessler or Glen Johnson in June instead of Jones.
I agree.I will watch the fight tho because I do like seeing RJJ KOed I don't know why I just like it for some odd reason.
I agree.I will watch the fight tho because I do like seeing RJJ KOed I don't know why I just like it for some odd reason.
Ditto that I like watching Roy being KO'd myself-it makes me feel real good inside.
xzworks 03-09-2006, 10:59 AM Roy jones is a great fighter.. but i still recommends him to focus on his rapping career..and what the ****s jones have been to have a shot to calzone?
Am I the only one that wants to see Joppy vs. Jones?
Crumble 03-09-2006, 11:03 AM the fight should happen because Joe has wanted him for years, and it will be a great fight while it lasts, styles make fights even if this is a 'shot' Roy Jones, its a big pay day for Joe and a big name on his resume and sets a Tarver fight up nicely.
RAESAAD 03-09-2006, 11:12 AM Am I the only one that wants to see Joppy vs. Jones?
I would like to see them play one on one basketball.
Left2body 03-09-2006, 11:19 AM This fight makes perfect sense if you look at it from a business point of view for Cal instead of a fans point of view. Cal isn't trying to solidfy a legacy with this fight he is trying to solidfy his bank account. Cal is still pretty unknown in US and wouldnt generate significant PPV numbers vs any other opponent other than Light heavies. With this fight he gets instant cash and (if he wins) becomes a more marketable name in US for future fights.
Now in terms of legacy, No it doesnt make a lot of sense. Cal's reputation can only be hurt by this fight not improved. If he wins they'll say he beat a shot RJJ. If he loses then they'll say (rightly so) that he was an over hyped fighter who's marquee victory was against another over hyped 1 dimensional fighter.
For Cal to secure a reputation as a great fighter he will have to beat some other top guys.
Now for RJJ, this is also a win win if you discount the fact that he could possibly take a serious beating. If RJJ wins he is a great champ who even with considerably diminished skills reclaimed a title. He also gets a big pay day from this fight and, if he wins a couple of HUGE pay days.
The real bad part is that RJJ could get his first real punishment of his career. He never took punishment throughout his career. Even in his KO losses he didnt take punishment, it was devastating KO's but no sustained multi-round accumaltive punishment. Cal, whom I regard as a decent puncher but not that one punch lights out punch could possibly inflict real damage on RJJ over several rounds.
realheavyhands 03-09-2006, 11:20 AM the fight should happen because Joe has wanted him for years, and it will be a great fight while it lasts, styles make fights even if this is a 'shot' Roy Jones, its a big pay day for Joe and a big name on his resume and sets a Tarver fight up nicely.
styles make fights and jones is faster and hits harder then calzaghe plus a reach advantage which is what killed him against tarver..calzaghe shouldn't fight jones unless its the biggest money fight because jones will probably beat him.. too much speed and calzaghe not enough reach 72 to 74
DIEGO DA HITMAN 03-09-2006, 11:26 AM Am I the only one that wants to see Joppy vs. Jones?
That's some ****... Jones might actually walk away with a W, though... might.
oldgringo 03-09-2006, 11:29 AM Seriously Calzaghe needs to fight someone who isn't washed up with 3 losses in their last 3 fights.
Glen Johnson, Kessler, Beyer...all more intriguing fights than this one. Roy Jones needs to retire.
For money purposes yeah it makes sense for Calz but **** that.
Left2body 03-09-2006, 11:32 AM First off let me say I'm a RJJ fan. However I think Cal showed some good inside work vs Lacy and would swarm RJJ like Glen Johnson did. Remember even in RJJ prime he use to let guys put him against the ropes, but back then they couldn't hit him even against the ropes ala Mayweather. If Cal uses that ruff swarm clinch, hit break, swarm hit style I see it being bad for RJJ. Now I do think RJJ still has alot of speed and more power than anyone ever really gave him credit for but I'm not sure if its enough at this point in his career. He appeared a little gun shy in his last fight and a bit unwilling to take a chance or exchange.
Dont get me wrong I still like RJJ and my heart (possibly even a small amount of my money if I get good odds) will be with RJJ. However my mind tells me Cal will win.
DIEGO DA HITMAN 03-09-2006, 11:33 AM Seriously Calzaghe needs to fight someone who isn't washed up with 3 losses in their last 3 fights.
Glen Johnson, Kessler, Beyer...all more intriguing fights than this one. Roy Jones needs to retire.
For money purposes yeah it makes sense for Calz but **** that.
I agree 100 %, but if that's what Joe feels he needs to do to make it big over here, then more power to him. I would definitely like to see him fight someone other than Jones, though.
oldgringo 03-09-2006, 11:39 AM I agree 100 %, but if that's what Joe feels he needs to do to make it big over here, then more power to him. I would definitely like to see him fight someone other than Jones, though.
I suppose if he's aiming at gaining a little recognition and loot then sure...go ahead and beat up on a huge name in Jones.
Honestly the only one I REALLY want to see him in the ring with is Mikkel Kessler...but a Glen Johnson fight would be pretty damned entertaining too.
Brz_Pugilist 03-09-2006, 12:03 PM Roid is on the juice :rolleyes: , Calzaghe by brutal KO on 8 rounds if it happens, Calzaghe would kill him now and back then, dont take the fight Roid, otherwise u asking for trouble!
Crumble 03-09-2006, 12:11 PM Beyer...all more intriguing fights than this one.
Beyer, easy nights work for Joe, if he got offered the same kind of money he did for Veit if not more, to fight Beyer in Germany he could take it and just wait for Tarver, Calzaghe would Knock him out Beyer that is.
DIEGO DA HITMAN 03-09-2006, 12:22 PM Beyer, easy nights work for Joe, if he got offered the same kind of money he did for Veit if not more, to fight Beyer in Germany he could take it and just wait for Tarver, Calzaghe would Knock him out Beyer that is.
Beyer's lucky to even still have his title. Calzaghe would destroy him, and I would've said that before the Lacy fight.
Crumble 03-09-2006, 12:47 PM Beyer's lucky to even still have his title. Calzaghe would destroy him, and I would've said that before the Lacy fight.
definetely, as long as he didnt break his hand like he did against Ashira he would knock him out 9 out of 10 times, Beyer has no power and is smallish, Calzaghe could do whatever he wanted to him.
quake 03-10-2006, 02:31 AM [QUOTE=DIEGO DA HITMAN]If Jones was in his prime, this would have Fight of the Year written all over it. QUOTE]
What's with these stupid statements? Are you on crack or just retarded? If Jones were in his prime theb if would be the same boring one sided fight we were accostomed to...unless you are going to say Joe is better than Hopkins, Johnson and Toney. In that case you would be clearly boosting Joe up because he is white and you would have zero credilility.
quake 03-10-2006, 02:33 AM I agree.I will watch the fight tho because I do like seeing RJJ KOed I don't know why I just like it for some odd reason.
Everyone knows the reason. Whiteboys always become irate when a blackman is ****y and they start rooting against them. Everyone knows that so just be honest.
joeboxer 03-10-2006, 02:45 AM Am I the only one that wants to see Joppy vs. Jones?
That's ****ed up.
The Fix 03-10-2006, 04:45 AM come on, this fight is 5 years too late..
everybody knows that jones is done, he is just risking his health now. this is one fight i do not want to see, being a jones fan, calzaghe is one fighter i dont want to see own a win over jones.
keystone30pack 03-10-2006, 06:04 AM jones has stated that he would take a couple of tune up fights first this time if he were to come back
blockhead 03-10-2006, 06:10 AM looks like we get to see glass jones on his back again.
realheavyhands 03-10-2006, 08:23 AM jones wouldn't take a fight unless he knows for sure he can win at this point..if jones does beat calzaghe ..tarver is one hell of a fighter
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