View Full Version : thoughts on jaun diaz
keystone30pack 03-06-2006, 09:23 AM just curious to see how others who have seen the baby bull fight regard his fihgting style
for me i love his use of multiple angled hooks- he really commits to the body and the head - punches all over
also i love the way he turns his opponents -
seems to lack that ko powr but can definitely overwhelm other opponents with accumulation punching- tko's
his days are numbered as a champion, move over for cottos older brother - jm cotto'll be hurtin' that body while showing him a lot of angles.
but i like his style of fighting.
machotime 03-06-2006, 11:38 AM just curious to see how others who have seen the baby bull fight regard his fihgting style
for me i love his use of multiple angled hooks- he really commits to the body and the head - punches all over
also i love the way he turns his opponents -
seems to lack that ko powr but can definitely overwhelm other opponents with accumulation punching- tko's
I actually see this fight Jose Cotto being a real test for Diaz. Jose Cotto is not the best opposition, but he is solid and poses substantial danger.
borikua 03-06-2006, 11:45 AM He's good, but nothing special. I think that Jose Cotto will knock him out. Let's see if he doesn't pull out of this fight.
Deeznuts 03-06-2006, 12:27 PM I know Jose has a good record but, I never seen him fight. Would love to watch Juan Diaz again and vs. Jose Cotto, a must see for me. Let's see if Jose got any pop like his brother.
RAESAAD 03-06-2006, 12:32 PM For some reason I can't stand him or Rocky Juarez.I hope they both get KTFO someday.
keystone30pack 03-06-2006, 12:32 PM i agree- this as a real test for diaz machotime
not so sure cott will ko diaz he appears to have a good beard from the shots sim gave him - this is a must see for me as well - actually any boxing i can see is a must see for me - i appreciate yall s opinions
GunStar 03-06-2006, 12:37 PM Juan Diaz fight with alot of energy, the guy is very exciting to watch, he will never bore you. Also he's shown he can take a good punch, he lacks power, but he still can hurt you. If Diaz had power like Chico, he would've been deadly. I like Diaz & I hope he has great career ahead of him.
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 03-06-2006, 01:37 PM Diaz stamina is his only real asset.He throws a lot of punches but his punch placement is really poor. He would get beat and stopped by any of the top fighters at 135: Julio Diaz, Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, etc.
AREALFIGHTER 03-06-2006, 01:59 PM He puts a lot of pressure on fighters he can be patient and really thinks in the ring does not get carried away does not have the power or speed to be a top fighter.
MISTA_SANDMAN 03-06-2006, 03:29 PM I agree---- Diaz stamina is his only real asset.He throws a lot of punches but his punch placement is really poor. He would get beat and stopped by any of the top fighters at 135: Julio Diaz, Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, etc.
keystone30pack 03-06-2006, 06:57 PM i disagree - hes got good handspeed and his punch placement is where it needs to be all over the place -
borikua 03-06-2006, 07:05 PM i disagree - hes got good handspeed and his punch placement is where it needs to be all over the place -
He better get ready for JM Cotto... :boxing:
keystone30pack 03-06-2006, 07:08 PM yeah he better his probs with getting a fight and this long ass layoof are not gonna help at all
keystone30pack 03-06-2006, 07:12 PM jm cottos competition has been weak- diaz by ud
look for yourself
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=16680
his last fight was a ko rd 7 v a 20-16-2 fighter well see in a month
DaWayne 03-06-2006, 07:21 PM Diaz stamina is his only real asset.He throws a lot of punches but his punch placement is really poor. He would get beat and stopped by any of the top fighters at 135: Julio Diaz, Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, etc.
My thoughts exactly.As far as him fighting the best at 135.Not taking anything away from Cotto whom I never seen fight.But this kid has got to be most protected champ in all of boxing.what is his handerlers waiting for all the bangers to leave the div.At the very least he could fight Julio Diaz.So jury got to be still out this guy.
keystone30pack 03-06-2006, 07:30 PM mandatory w/ sim fell thru, freitas fight fell thru, cassamayor fight fell thru, his camp wanted hatton- this fight w/ jm cotto will set stage for a top guy
fukanesedragon 03-06-2006, 07:41 PM Juan Diaz is exciting to watch and he's good for boxing. He continues his college education while he also trains as a world champion! Too bad he doesn't have any power. I feel that will be his undoing as he will run into someone with a great punch who can weather the storm and then land his own bombs. Who knows though? Maybe Diaz also has a solid chin.
Mech. 03-06-2006, 07:44 PM I actually see this fight Jose Cotto being a real test for Diaz. Jose Cotto is not the best opposition, but he is solid and poses substantial danger.
Yeah Im really looking forward to this,I wouldnt say I was terribly impressed by cotto when I saw him fight,but he still got the KO and I think it spells trouble for diaz because of the style,great fight either way.
Mech. 03-06-2006, 07:48 PM jm cottos competition has been weak- diaz by ud
look for yourself
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=16680
his last fight was a ko rd 7 v a 20-16-2 fighter well see in a month
I think Diaz has been lacking himself dude,Such as recently fighting arthur cruz,a guy he had already KO'ed in 4.
borikua 03-06-2006, 08:50 PM jm cottos competition has been weak- diaz by ud
look for yourself
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=16680
his last fight was a ko rd 7 v a 20-16-2 fighter well see in a month
That doesn't mean ****, you have to see him fight.
keystone30pack 03-06-2006, 08:57 PM i plan on it- against someone who can fight back
keystone30pack 03-06-2006, 09:00 PM i gotta admit though its pretty impressive to ko guys in the first round who have almost as many losses as wins
AREALFIGHTER 03-06-2006, 09:07 PM My thoughts exactly.As far as him fighting the best at 135.Not taking anything away from Cotto whom I never seen fight.But this kid has got to be most protected champ in all of boxing.what is his handerlers waiting for all the bangers to leave the div.At the very least he could fight Julio Diaz.So jury got to be still out this guy.Lakva Sim could teach some of the bangers how to bang the guy punches like a mule it was his overall skill that let him down agienst diaz. One thing that Diaz does really well is think how can I beat this guy while the fight is taking place the guy can ajust nicely but does just not have the power to hold off a power punching pressure fighter. Diaz relies on his volume but I do not think he has the experiance or movement to fend off or out boxing the top guys who are able to punch and put combos together I think it is somewhat of a moot point and I could eat my words but I really dought it Diaz just does not have enough to win. He reminds me of a younger steve johnston but with out the level of skill that johnston had and johnston could hit harder as well Diaz does slap with his punches at times.
Versastyle 03-06-2006, 09:23 PM ive probably seen him fight more then alot of ppl since he's from houston. but i like him alot he puts alot of pressure on. and never stops throwing. i think manny would have probelms
Mech. 03-06-2006, 10:00 PM i gotta admit though its pretty impressive to ko guys in the first round who have almost as many losses as wins
Like i said, you have to look at diaz's record before you talk **** about JM's.
oldgringo 03-06-2006, 10:10 PM Cotto is going to be a pretty tough opponent for Diaz...like someone already said, I'd be surprised if the fight goes down.
Diaz looks good against shopworn guys like Irwin and face first guys like Sim. We haven't really seen him fight a true test, although Sim was a game fighter with a good chin.
I like Diaz and the way he fights...but I agree with Ultimate. Castillo, Corrales, Julio Diaz and the other top guys at 135 outclass and stop Juan.
Memorex 03-06-2006, 10:11 PM diaz is a ***** boy, that *** aint from houston. this guy fights washed uop up champs and takes their belts and then calls himself a champ. he's a paper champ and i hope he gets his ass knocked out. his fists are made out of marshmellows and i hate him lol. i hope cotto knocks his ass out cold!
oldgringo 03-06-2006, 10:12 PM Also, Jesus Chavez/Juan Diaz would be a great great action fight.
bigsmoothh 03-06-2006, 10:15 PM For some reason I can't stand him or Rocky Juarez.I hope they both get KTFO someday.
i know both of them the go to hcc, and their cool.
keystone30pack 03-06-2006, 10:25 PM diaz is a ***** boy, that *** aint from houston. this guy fights washed uop up champs and takes their belts and then calls himself a champ. he's a paper champ and i hope he gets his ass knocked out. his fists are made out of marshmellows and i hate him lol. i hope cotto knocks his ass out cold!
thats what called grooming a fighter so he is fully prepared to take on the best at o young of an age- see vargas, fernando
Memorex 03-06-2006, 10:33 PM thats what called grooming a fighter so he is fully prepared to take on the best at o young of an age- see vargas, fernando
please dont compare juan diaz to a warrior like vargas :cool: i hope juan diaz gets knocked out and takes his pillow hands home.
keystone30pack 03-06-2006, 10:47 PM Like i said, you have to look at diaz's record before you talk **** about JM's.
i have
diaz last 6 194-42-9
jms last 6 137-107-11
Mech. 03-06-2006, 11:07 PM i have
diaz last 6 194-42-9
jms last 6 137-107-11
Im not trying to discredit either fighter,I dont have a favorite here, but fact is,they would be eachothers best faced competition thus far.
Versastyle 03-06-2006, 11:53 PM diaz is a ***** boy, that *** aint from houston. this guy fights washed uop up champs and takes their belts and then calls himself a champ. he's a paper champ and i hope he gets his ass knocked out. his fists are made out of marshmellows and i hate him lol. i hope cotto knocks his ass out cold!
why would cotto fight him did he move up in weight classes?
Piggu 03-06-2006, 11:54 PM Does he fight on TV?
I haven't seen him fight but I heard he's impressive.
keystone30pack 03-07-2006, 12:09 AM agreed upon mech-
not comparing the fighters memorex - but vargas was a young fighter brought along maybe to fast - so if jauns handlers want to bring the kd around slowly why push too fast- he needs a couple more fights anyhow- besides the fact the kid shows class and talks absolutely no ****- his handlers schedule the fights he shows up and fights
mystyal2k5 - he is fighting cottos younger bro
Versastyle 03-07-2006, 12:15 AM agreed upon mech-
not comparing the fighters memorex - but vargas was a young fighter brought along maybe to fast - so if jauns handlers want to bring the kd around slowly why push too fast- he needs a couple more fights anyhow- besides the fact the kid shows class and talks absolutely no ****- his handlers schedule the fights he shows up and fights
mystyal2k5 - he is fighting cottos younger bro
oh ok i heard he undefeated also i think 25-0
lmfao.
The topic starter is from texas like I am....So I understand his user name handle. We drink that cheap stuff down here....religiously.
borikua 03-07-2006, 12:47 AM It's going to be a great fight.
borikua 03-07-2006, 12:49 AM Jose Miguel Cotto
ferocity 03-07-2006, 04:55 AM From Cottos last performance I say Diaz takes him in deep waters and tko's him.
JackSlack 03-07-2006, 11:52 AM I like him as well, but the problem with him is that he hasn't fought much lately as you guys pointed out.
And it's always-"The other guy's fault" that these fights don't happen. :rolleyes:
Very good stamina and exceptional handspeed and reflexes for a lightweight, but no real knockout power.
I think he should beat Cotto, but I picked Lacy to stop Calzaghe as well, so that goes to show you how much I know.
I think Diaz may need a change in promoters and management as he has blown one complete year due to inactivity.
I don't think he can beat either Castillo or Corrales, though.
He is a very good fighter that I have seen since his amateur days, but he isn't ready for the elite level yet.
He may do well fighting the elder Cotto and perhaps Julio Diaz, or the Raheem-Freitas winner perhaps.
But Juan isn't beating any of the big boys right now.
JS
machotime 03-07-2006, 06:17 PM agreed upon mech-
not comparing the fighters memorex - but vargas was a young fighter brought along maybe to fast - so if jauns handlers want to bring the kd around slowly why push too fast- he needs a couple more fights anyhow- besides the fact the kid shows class and talks absolutely no ****- his handlers schedule the fights he shows up and fights
mystyal2k5 - he is fighting cottos younger bro
Jose Cotto is Miguel Cotto's Older brother not younger brother.
keystone30pack 03-07-2006, 11:39 PM Yesterday, 01:09 AM #37
agree older brother- shouldve been sleeping- thanks
multiply 03-08-2006, 01:38 AM Diaz stamina is his only real asset.He throws a lot of punches but his punch placement is really poor. He would get beat and stopped by any of the top fighters at 135: Julio Diaz, Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, etc.My thoughts exactly as far as placement of punches. By the way is Julio related to "Baby Bull"?
Anyway I'd much rather see Julio vs. Miguel @ 140lbs.
diaz is a ***** boy, that *** aint from houston. this guy fights washed uop up champs and takes their belts and then calls himself a champ. he's a paper champ and i hope he gets his ass knocked out. his fists are made out of marshmellows and i hate him lol. i hope cotto knocks his ass out cold!
You have no clue as to what you speak.
Diaz is one of the hardest working gym rats that I've ever had the pleasure to meet, and especially work with. His chin is solid, his workrate is insane, and his heart is huge.
You say he fights washed up fighters, etc etc...you're going to blame him for this when all of his fights have been selected by Top Rank, and he's been getting ****ed around. He will get the chance to show some true skill come this time next month, that is a promise.
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