View Full Version : Pbf Vs Judah


Floydmayweather
01-24-2005, 06:21 PM
I have heard some people say they think Judah could beat Floyd. I see Judah as a guy who is fast like floyd but not as fast. His defense is not near as good but he is a little bigger. It comes down to one thing in my opinion Judah can not play with Floyd at all and Floyd will be serious. In the end Floyd will Ko Judah. ;)

wordsmith
01-24-2005, 06:31 PM
This would be excellent I don't either would knock each other out. Simply because they both try so hard to avoid getting hit, if this were ever to happen this would be the best fight of our generation. Its rare that we see two fighters with that type of speed and power face each other. I actually hope this fight happens but I don't think any one would get knocked out.

People seem to underestimate Judah's defense. He has great defense its just he begins to act like a ****ing idiot clowning he lets his guard down and gets caught. In a fight of this magnitude I don't think he would clown he would be as serious like we've never seen him.

Zab Super Judah
01-24-2005, 06:32 PM
this would be a GREAT FIGHT.......but mayweather wins

QueenCity
01-24-2005, 06:55 PM
Zab's being a southpaw would give him a legitement chance. But since Mayweather is WAY more consistant I'd have to pick him. I would love to see this fight though speed vs. speed.

rsl
01-24-2005, 07:01 PM
On paper it's a great match - up, but in reality it could be a snooze fest for the simple fact that both fighters have already stated that there's no way in hell they would fight each other because they are blood related, their moms are sisters or they're half brothers. They said this during an interview while shoooting a rap video. I think it might've been on B.E.T. for those of you who don't know it stands for Black Entertainment Channel.

The Fix
01-24-2005, 07:01 PM
at what weight? if its at anything above 140 i say judah wins. mayweather has reached his fighting weight limit at 140 so judah beating pbf isnt far fetched and i would def put my money on judah at 140+

adeelr
01-24-2005, 07:05 PM
He is faster than floyd,,but i dont think he can match the skill, he doesn't have much of a chance with floyd..

The Fix
01-24-2005, 07:07 PM
He is faster than floyd,,but i dont think he can match the skill, he doesn't have much of a chance with floyd..

judah is a very skilled fighter and i think he would have a great size advantage against floyd. if the fight happens imo judah wins.

Truth
01-24-2005, 09:45 PM
this would be a GREAT FIGHT.......but mayweather wins

I agree Zab's a very good fighter but Mayweather is a great fighter and does alot of things better than Judah. My prediction Mayweather UD

Floydmayweather
01-24-2005, 10:06 PM
He is not faster than floyd.

The Fix
01-24-2005, 10:09 PM
He is not faster than floyd.

i dont know about faster but it is certainly close. id say they are both top 5 for fastest in boxing

Floydmayweather
01-24-2005, 10:11 PM
Indeed it should be a good one.

Zab Super Judah
01-24-2005, 10:11 PM
i dont know if you can really say either is faster with hand speed...but i think judah is faster with his feet

Sister Sledge
01-24-2005, 11:18 PM
Great match between the two most gifted athletes in the sport. They match each other in speed. Zab has more power. PBF is the more skilled fighter. The safe bet would be on Floyd, but one day Zab might just "get it" and fullfill his potential. I wouldn't put money on this fight because it's too close to call.

xrhythmxnxbluesx
01-24-2005, 11:22 PM
this would be an excellent fight for both fighters... but i say pretty boy's skills will prevail at the end...

phallus
01-24-2005, 11:24 PM
Zab's being a southpaw would give him a legitement chance. But since Mayweather is WAY more consistant I'd have to pick him. I would love to see this fight though speed vs. speed.


this could be fun to watch, but PBF wins this fight. Judah is fast but his chin is suspect, he got knocked down by Cory Spinks, who is not a big puncher. Floyd stops him late

The Fix
01-25-2005, 12:00 AM
this could be fun to watch, but PBF wins this fight. Judah is fast but his chin is suspect, he got knocked down by Cory Spinks, who is not a big puncher. Floyd stops him late

it was just a flash knockdown anybody can get hit with one of those, you dont need a lot of power to stun your opponent like that.

GasPed
01-25-2005, 12:27 AM
this could be fun to watch, but PBF wins this fight. Judah is fast but his chin is suspect, he got knocked down by Cory Spinks, who is not a big puncher. Floyd stops him late
I agree that Judah's chin is suspect, but he's got legit 147 pound power, and I don't think PBF does. Would be a very interesting fight, but I doubt we'll ever see it...

phallus
01-25-2005, 12:29 AM
I agree that Judah's chin is suspect, but he's got legit 147 pound power, and I don't think PBF does. Would be a very interesting fight, but I doubt we'll ever see it...


you're right, i think Judah is the bigger puncher, but Floyd is faster and more skilled

Link
01-25-2005, 01:31 AM
Zab Judah wins easy and shocks boxing fans but not coaches and fighters. Mayweather fights real hamburgers, besides his one great performance against Corrales he hasn't been looking super good against GOOD competition. Corrales was not that great of a boxer back then, he had no head movement, was slow, and had bad reflexes. Floyd's speed was too much but against real fighters like Mexican superstar Jose Luis Castillo, Floyd looked terrible, Castillo counter punched Floyd's counterpunchers and made it look amazing, Castillo was also too strong and too rough for boy toy floyd. He didn't win that fight everyone knows, in the rematch he looked bad again. Against Sosa he barely won the fight due to Sosa's strength, and Floyd always goes the distance or just too long with gimmes like Bruseles, Corley, and N'Dou. Zab on the other hand is massive with both hands. When Zab connects people crumble. Zab is a southpaw and will give Mayweather a fit. Zab never gets hit with Mayweather style punches, mayweather just jumps in with lead rights or left hooks. NO WAY he can hit Zab with that. Zab will be too powerful, fast and a Better Boxer who has fought better people for Floyd. Zab wins easy. Floyd should never fight guys like Zab, Spinks, or Vernon Forrest. Floyd has got most boxing fans under his spell with his cool personality and pretty boy looks, people look past his close decisions and lack of good competition and just see a fighter that THEY want to suceed.

Floydmayweather
01-25-2005, 01:47 AM
U are dreamin buddy. and in the rematch he made castillo look like garbage.

Floydmayweather
01-25-2005, 01:48 AM
And Judah is a better boxer than Floyd who is this kid, get a clue.

Link
01-26-2005, 05:47 AM
And Judah is a better boxer than Floyd who is this kid, get a clue.

Who is this kid? Someone who is half your age but had 100 times more ring experience than you. Who the hell are you? You act like you are Floyd Mayweather himself. I swear Mayweather fans are just as bad as Pacquaio fans.
What? are you saying that Floyd's win against Castillo the 2nd time was a Great performance? The fight was boring, there were no memorable moments, and he just stayed on his horse for half of the fight. It was not a P4p performance. I see that you have just ignored the fact that Castillo beat his ass from start to finish in the first fight. I don't get why Mayweather lovers seem to always forget to mention that when they defend him. Please explain his performance to me....come on, please explain it for us, we are dieing to hear. Also please explain the fact that Floyd seems to get hurt badly against Southpaws. Demacus Corley is way beyond shot, he is dead in that ring. He has no strategy and he give no effort in that ring, mentally he gives up around the 3 rounds when he is not winning, and Floyd still couldn't put him away. Infact Floyd got hurt badly in that fight. Lucky for him, DeMarcus didn't have the brain capacity to finish him. That fight was supposed to be a gimmie for Floyd.

How about we analyze Floyd's career, style and perfomances. Floyd's people always seem to find him the same kind of opponents. Its called careful match making. You see, Floyd always chooses fighters that don't box, he always finds guys who just likes to chase people around the ring. Floyd fights better when people close the distance for him, you see he moves side to side or back, waits till they get close enough and then he gets off before them, he then moves out at an angle to avoid counters or he just stands there and rolls his shoulders. Because his opponents only know how to come forward they get destroyed by the shoulder roll. Floyd rolls his shoulders only in one direction, he bumps the straight right hand off his shoulder and comes back with his own right hand that always connects hard because of their style. Fighters who only know how to come forward will not be able to go to a side, or quickly step out of range on time when Floyd counters back during his rolling. Zab knows how to get combinations off and get out of the way, Zab can punch and pivot out to his right or left, Zab can get in and quickly get out(unlike any of mayweathers opponents), Zab can also get off and counter punch mayweathers counterpunches because he is fast enough. Also notice how Floyd only fights people with a looping right hand not a straight one. Jesus Chavez only throws a looping right hand which is easily deflected by the classic shoulder roll, it is also much easier to duck or slip. Castillo usually only throws a hook like right hand, so did Corrales back then. Also notice how Mayweather's opponents don't have particulary good head movement. Now Mayweather's defense just like his offense is based off the shoulder roll. With the shoulder roll, Mayweather's left side of his face is protected by the shoulder and his right side is protected by his right hand to block left hooks. But now there is that huge opening that forms, Southpaw DeMarcus rocked Mayweather many times with that straight left hand because the shoulder roll protects from all punches BUT the area where you get hit with jabs or straight left hands. NOW THAT IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM FOR MAYWEATHER ESPECIALLY AGAINST ZAB. So you see that Mayweather's whole style is based on one move...the SHOULDER ROLL. James Toney uses the Shoulder but he rolls both ways to protect from jabs and straight lefts, while Floyd only rolls back clockwise which gives him no defense to lefts. Now I want you to go back and watch Floyds fights and you will see that the only punches that seem to snap floyd's head back are left hands(Chavez nailed Floyd with Jabs and left uppercuts all night, Bruseles' only clean punches were jabs, Demarcus rocked Floyd with lefts). Now you see that Zab is a more complete fighter, he moves his head more, when he rolls he rolls both sides. The only thing that makes Zab look bad is the fact that he wanted too much too soon and he payed for it against Tzysu. But this also means that Zab has fought Far better competition than Floyd. Zab fought an undisputed champion named Cory Spinks who also was much taller and bigger, and I thought that Zab won the fight. Zab also fought the LIVING legend Kostya Tzysu and almost killed him that first round. Now you see why I think Zab will win.

jack_the_rippuh
01-26-2005, 08:42 AM
Floyd would TKO Zab and then hug him after the fight..

Bryght
01-26-2005, 10:55 AM
If such a fight was to ever happen, Floyd beats the classless Judah via TKO.

Enough said.

Floydmayweather
01-26-2005, 11:12 AM
Link Judah is not in the same class as Mayweather until he stops clowing. And i spar everday in Milwaukee and i would drop your ass in one punch punk. Just playin but not really. ;)

Link
01-26-2005, 05:52 PM
Drop me???Sure you would. Sparring in a rape defense/boxercise class set up by the local women's outreach center doesn't really count as real boxing my friend. And sparring with your 10 year old younger brother in the basement doesn't count either. Milwaukee..never heard of any good amateurs or pros coming out of there. I've known people like you, I bet you come from one of those upperclass white boy gyms where you are not allowed to spar to the head. I trained under Richard Steele's gym in Las Vegas. I've been fighting under USA boxing since I was 13 years old. I fought for so many state and national titles that I got a schoolarship from University of Nevada Las Vegas. I started last semester. What have you accomplished? You just only spar with other rich suburb kids, right?? You think you can drop me with one punch??? Only in your dreams ..the only way you can drop my ass is if you really are floydmayweather. In reality what would happen is that after I drop you with a single jab, I would toy with you just to embarrass the hell out of you. With my tight defense and fast hands you begin to think midway through the 1st about how sparring your 10 year old brother in your living room was much funner. If you don't throw in the towel or the ref doesn't stop the fight from excessive bleeding and crying, I would knock you out with a clean left hook to the jaw timed behind your lazy suburbian jab at 2:50 of the final round. thats a fact

bigdlb12
01-26-2005, 06:24 PM
Judah would die in the ring

Floydmayweather
01-26-2005, 10:45 PM
First off that is a joke i train at Martin Luther King Dr. in the ghetto. Most people i spar with have a big weight advantage on me. Knock me out with a jab ok. If your boxing knowledge is anything like your ring prowless than u are full of it. I could careless if u think u could beat me. I am a club fighter now and have not lost. And i plan on moving my training to the Jab in chicago. This is pointless though because your a little punk like Judah. :D

Floydmayweather
01-26-2005, 10:47 PM
And i also train with pan american fighters not my little brother.

jack_the_rippuh
01-26-2005, 10:51 PM
Why are you guys challenging each other to a boxing match out of anger, Shouldn't it just be a street fight?

When will you guys ever meet with each other?

Look what a difference in OPINION can spark..

MetalVomit
01-26-2005, 10:55 PM
Link Judah is not in the same class as Mayweather until he stops clowing. And i spar everday in Milwaukee and i would drop your ass in one punch punk. Just playin but not really. ;)


I'm from Milwaukee too. Cold as **** here. Mayweather will easily outpoint Judah.

jack_the_rippuh
01-26-2005, 11:04 PM
They share a sort of recent common opponent and that would be Demarcus Corley. I think Judah's only chance is the KO on Floyd, but the trick to it is landing it.

P.S. What is Jose Luis Castillo's fighting style like, since he came the closest to beating Mayweather so far, anyone see it? Can you tell me how exactly he fought that fight?

Floydmayweather
01-27-2005, 12:34 AM
nah just playin with him i could really careless. Mayweather beats Judah though thats for sure.

Knicksman20
01-27-2005, 12:37 AM
They share a sort of recent common opponent and that would be Demarcus Corley. I think Judah's only chance is the KO on Floyd, but the trick to it is landing it.

P.S. What is Jose Luis Castillo's fighting style like, since he came the closest to beating Mayweather so far, anyone see it? Can you tell me how exactly he fought that fight?

He put alot pressure on PBF & did a little rough-house tactics. He kept trying to press the action throwing punches to his body & coming up to the head. It looked nice but alot of his punches were being caught on the arms. The crowd was for Castillo so anything that would touch PBF & they'd start yelling. The last few rounds were him & PBF standing in the middle of the ring with PBF "in the pocket". Just how he fought N'Dou & his last fight Bruseles. Catching punches on the arms & countering very effectively.