This was Jeff Lacy's first official knockdown in his entire professional career, which occurred last night in the 12th round. Legit or not?

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Calzaghe hit him with a barrage of punches before that and thne hit him wiht 2 left hands. I think it was a combination of the Left and them running into each other.

Yea it was legit.. But i dont like you... You a hater.

i guess its legit...., but to me it just doesnt seem like a punch knocked him down it hit, knocked him off balance. but then he fell because they coolided

Yes it was legit. Lacy wend down from some pushing contact, but it happened because he was rocked and had no legs. Definit knock down.

It's just like the clowns who dispute Peter's knock downs of Wlad.

In both cases, the fighter going down went down because they were hurt and had no legs.

it wasn't really legitimate, but having said so, it meant jack ****........as it was all calzaghe...

i'm sure had the fight been closer till then, the referee would have had a better look at it.....

Yeah, it was legit. Lacy ducked down into an uppercut and reacted poorly. There was contact afterwards, but Joe punched and Lacy went down = KD.

legit legit legit. that was the most one-sided beaten in a 12 round title fight I've ever seen in my life.

the punch hit all gloves and he got pushed down. it doesnt matter he was tired and was punished.

NO NO NO

It was not legit, none of them were.

Lacy got owned, dominated, humiliated....period.

But there was no legit knock downs. Period.


A slow instant reply shows the push.

it's wasn't legit though he was hut later in the round it was a push or a clash of bodies

not legit at all, Lacy was tired and off balanced coming inside.

BUT!!!!! after an ass whoopin like that, it don't matter if it's legit or not, because there was at least one 10-8 round maybe two before the knockdown even happend.......

yea, i guess

*cries* :(

yea, i guess

*cries* :(
dont cry **** happens
hopefully lacy can recover from this beat down

^^haha yea i know, i was jk

ima stay loyal to jeff tho, unlike bandwagoners. im glad to see ppl jump off so the tru fans can root by themselves. jeffs gotta keep training, and get back on top.

^^haha yea i know, i was jk

ima stay loyal to jeff tho, unlike bandwagoners. im glad to see ppl jump off so the tru fans can root by themselves. jeffs gotta keep training, and get back on top.
i knew u werent really crying, i mean who crys when their favorite fighter get owned :o ok ok i did when morales got tko'd :( lol

^^haha yea i know, i was jk

ima stay loyal to jeff tho, unlike bandwagoners. im glad to see ppl jump off so the tru fans can root by themselves. jeffs gotta keep training, and get back on top.
Yup, but I would have traded a bandwagon for a win hahaha



I was so sad last night, it was crazy. I had people over and everything.

It was clearly mostly a push, but there's been worse calls. If Lacy wasn't so weakened over the course of the fight, he wouldn't have gone down. But, in fact, he was pushed down repeatedly. Most have been embarassing to be built like him and get shoved around by a tall, skinny guy....

doesnt look legit, and after that fight i can say that jeff has one hell of a chin. god damn he took a beating

Yeah, it was legit. Lacy ducked down into an uppercut and reacted poorly. There was contact afterwards, but Joe punched and Lacy went down = KD.

The punch went off his forearms and gloves, actually. Then their legs tangled and he fell over.

Also, since it's being discussed, I nearly cried when Jones got KOed by Johnson, but I was at a friend's house, so I didn't. I almost did again during Jones-Tarver III, but that's because I was thinking of all the money I had just lost on buying that POS.

looked to me like he was faling anyway and hit joe's legs.. if he didnt he looked like he was gonna fall straight down as opposed to the way it ended up

looked to me like he was faling anyway and hit joe's legs.. if he didnt he looked like he was gonna fall straight down as opposed to the way it ended up

He got right back up though didn't he? you'll never see Jeff Lacy quit on his stool. that's a real man there. he may not be the fighter I and alot of others thought, but as a man he should have gained alot of respect. he never gave up.

The knock down wasn't legit but it did put an exclamation point on the great performance of Calzaghe.

It was mos def legit. It had to do more with Lacy being exausted and off balance but Lacy hit him and he fell like the overrated bum he is.

LEGIT

To me it seems as though, there was enough on it and what Lacy caught was sending him down, but he could have clinched and avoided the knock down.. and since that was avoided by the way they clashed, i'd say no KD.

It's just like the clowns who dispute Peter's knock downs of Wlad.



You just can't stop talkin about one of them Klitschko brothers..
hehe
it's cute!


:p

You just can't stop talkin about one of them Klitschko brothers..
hehe
it's cute!


:p


Gee, I wonder which comment drew you into this thread? :rolleyes:

The punch went off his forearms and gloves, actually. Then their legs tangled and he fell over.

Also, since it's being discussed, I nearly cried when Jones got KOed by Johnson, but I was at a friend's house, so I didn't. I almost did again during Jones-Tarver III, but that's because I was thinking of all the money I had just lost on buying that POS.

RJJ the best boxers in the 90s

Yes it was legit cause Calzaghe was bashing him all night and it just took the energy out of him. it was just a matter of time

no knockdown. they showed it from another angle and that punch didnt land at all.

ofcourse it was legit he got caught with the left...

It was a beautiful, legit knock down. Beautiful. Graceful. Amazing. Lovely. Pure. Handsome. Attractive. Knock Down.

I didn't think it was a knockdown at the time, and I don't after watching the clip. Still his corner should have pulled him out of there before then, none of this warrior crap, he had only the smallest chance after the 7th, and not much hope after the 3rd.

the knockdown had more to do with joe pushing jeff to be off balance, than punch damage causing the knockdown.

More of a wrestle down of a very tired and beaten up fighter....IMO Either way Joe whooped his ass regardless of whether that was an actual KD.

Yeah it was legit. I also never seen Jeff hold on for dear life as he did in that 12th round.

People are saying this isnt legit? :rolleyes:

**** me, wake up. A left uppercut followed by a slight push from the momentum that Joe had behind the punch. Are you telling me he would have been standing up had Joe not nudged him down on his way?

Whatever....

Yes it was legit. Lacy wend down from some pushing contact, but it happened because he was rocked and had no legs. Definit knock down.

It's just like the clowns who dispute Peter's knock downs of Wlad.

In both cases, the fighter going down went down because they were hurt and had no legs.



It was a push, idiot.

Are you telling me he would have been standing up had Joe not nudged him down on his way?

Whatever....

take a look at jeff's body movement after he falls down, he immediately gets up coordinated..the KD was more from the push than the punch, trust me.

So what? what does it matter?

doesnt matter at all

Gee, I wonder which comment drew you into this thread? :rolleyes:



It is extremely pathetic how you talk about Klichko in Lacy-Calzage thread.

doesnt matter at all
You are right.........but for the record IF it was a close fight and Joe ended up winning based on that KD I would be extremely pissed off because it was questionable no matter what anyone on here says.

take a look at jeff's body movement after he falls down, he immediately gets up coordinated..the KD was more from the push than the punch, trust me.
No. Take a look at the legs of Lacy and the position his body in, the split second the punch lands. He is off balance, tired from the rest of the fight, and just before this he was holding on like his life depended on it... the man was gone, the punch lead to the KD, not the push... the push had less force than the punch...

Let me put it this way. If Joe just walked up to him and pushed him the way he did, he wouldnt have gone down. Clearly the punch made all the difference, there really isnt any excuse... the point deduction in the 11th was generous to say the least also.

you are silly for thinking a punch did that, but think what you will. not like it matters anyway..truth of the matter is that a push caused the knockdown, not the punch, regardless of what you try to make yourself believe.

take a look at how jeff tries to catch himself on the way down. when have you seen a fighter getting knocked down from a punch with his equalibrium all ****ed up try to catch himself and regain balance before going down?

take a look at how jeff tries to catch himself on the way down. when have you seen a fighter getting knocked down from a punch with his equalibrium all ****ed up try to catch himself and regain balance before going down?I agree with you 100%.

take a look at how jeff tries to catch himself on the way down. when have you seen a fighter getting knocked down from a punch with his equalibrium all ****ed up try to catch himself and regain balance before going down?
That happens all the time...

Larry Holmes - Tyson.

Griffin - Jones II.

Morales did it against Pac Man also... he was going down and held onto the ropes... technically that was a KD but the ref didnt call it, so it wasnt deducted from the scorecards officially.

That happens all the time...

Larry Holmes - Tyson.

Brannon - Jones.

Morales did it against Pac Man also... he was going down and held onto the ropes... technically that was a KD but the ref didnt call it, so it wasnt deducted from the scorecards officially.
Bad comparisons.........look he went down who cares.It was clearly more from exhaustion and the knee nudge than Calzaghes punch but either way he went down and thats how the ref ruled it.

Bad comparisons.........look he went down who cares.It was clearly more from exhaustion and the knee nudge than Calzaghes punch but either way he went down and thats how the ref ruled it.
Why where they bad comparisons ... there are loads of instances outside of those 3 also... it happens all the time. I can think of a couple of Naz fights where the opponent is going down, but takes ages to because he is stumbling around the ring trying to get his balance, but in the end just falls...

Why where they bad comparisons ... there are loads of instances outside of those 3 also... it happens all the time. I can think of a couple of Naz fights where the opponent is going down, but takes ages to because he is stumbling around the ring trying to get his balance, but in the end just falls...
OK well Lacy would have not just fallen if Joe stayed away from him rather than charging in and nudging him with his knee.

Doesn't matter now. Joe Calzaghe completely outclassed Lacy.

OK well Lacy would have not just fallen if Joe stayed away from him rather than charging in and nudging him with his knee.
Raesaad let me ask you this...

1) Joe walks up to Jeff -- "knee pushes" him -- does he fall down?
2) Joe walks up to Jeff -- uppercuts him and then "knee pushes" him -- does he fall down?

yep legit lacy got his self a ass whooping backed lacy to win as well

It is extremely pathetic how you talk about Klichko in Lacy-Calzage thread.


And how it would upset you and cause you to react to it.

Such a predictable loser. :rolleyes:

It was a push, idiot.

You're a wounded little girl.

He was hurt, and had no legs. That's why he went down. It was a number of shots that happened just before that.

It was more of a knockdown than Barrera's no-hit-knockdown of Pac in the first round.

althought Lacy did trip he got punched before he tripped so it should be(and was) called a knock down

Definitely a push; not to mention it looks as if there feet got tangled too.

I don't think it was a knockdown, but it's very, very insignificant. He lost the knockdown point because of a picky foul point, anyway...

I don't think it was a knockdown, but it's very, very insignificant. He lost the knockdown point because of a picky foul point, anyway...
The only significance was that it was the first KD of Lacy's career, and the way he bought that left uppercut out of the floor and landed it straight on the money shows that the punch lead to the KD not the push... but people simply wont see that... I think the results speak for themselves anyway. :cool:

He was hurt, but if they didnt clash, or he wasnt 'pushed', he wouldnt have gone done.

No punch caused the knockdown.

Not a knockdown.

Never saw this thread at the time. I voted "no".

Technically, Lacy went down from accidental body contact, not a punch. So technically it's not a legitimate knockdown.

Sure, it was a deserved call, because without all Lacy's holding in that round and the ref getting his gloves redressed without calling time there would have been a KD anyway. It was a "there but for the grace of God" KD, a much more valid one than, say, Colloza's "feet together" flash knockdown. If Lacy hadn't have taken the count he probably would have been KD'd straight after anyway.

But the fact remains that it WASN'T a legitimate KD under the rules of boxing. That much should be beyond dispute.

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