???? Now he's british. :rolleyes:

???? Now he's british. :rolleyes:

wales is a part of britain retard

yeah dumbass, learn your geography.

No, they were saying he wasnt british cause hes wale-ish. now he's british. how convenient.
wales is a part of britain retard

???? Now he's british. :rolleyes:

What do you mean? Waleish? LMAO!!! :D

wales is different from britain and now he's a "brit". nice logic.

Wales is a part of Britian.

But I bet if he lost everyone would only say he is welsh and forget the British part. Like when Lennox Lewis lost everybody said he was Canadian until he won again!

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For saying wale-ish...lol

No, they were saying he wasnt british cause hes wale-ish. now he's british. how convenient.

shut the **** up you twat.

hahaha hahaha u prick,lacy lost. he got his ass handed, shall i send you pics of the knock down. haha

GREAT BRITAIN = ENGLAND , SCOTLAND, WALES, N'IRELAND

BLOODSHED U NEED TO BE SCHOOLED JUST LIKE LACY WAS SCHOOLED IN THE MEN ARENA

wales is different from britain and now he's a "brit". nice logic.

only 4% of Americans have passports..I don't believe it.

But I bet if he lost everyone would only say he is welsh and forget the British part.

Err, I dont think so.

Now hes british. How convenient... makes perfect sense.
shut the **** up you twat.

hahaha hahaha u prick,lacy lost. he got his ass handed, shall i send you pics of the knock down. haha

GREAT BRITAIN = ENGLAND , SCOTLAND, WALES, N'IRELAND

BLOODSHED U NEED TO BE SCHOOLED JUST LIKE LACY WAS SCHOOLED IN THE MEN ARENA

Now hes british. How convenient... makes perfect sense.

we dont refer to ourselves as British do we?......we refer to ourselves as English,Welsh or Scottish, we dont say 'im british' only Americans term us in that way. So when a 'Brit' beats an American its gratifying, also take into consideration the size of the tiny island we share.

Joe is Welsh but also British, a race within a race... However Lacy didn't wear an English football shirt to the weigh in for nothing :boxing:

Joe, I believe sees himself as Welsh primarily, as does Ricky sees himself as a Manc/English though we all want our compatriots to beat the Yanks in the ring ;)

Joe, I believe sees himself as Welsh primarily, as does Ricky sees himself as a Manc/English though we all want our compatriots to beat the Yanks in the ring

yep after all to quote football factory 'we are an Island race'

yep after all to quote football factory 'we are an Island race'
Exactly. May have our internal banter between the principalities and provinces but at the end of the day, whether Harrison the Jock, Calzaghe the Taff or Hatton the Lime are fighting against foreign foe, we are all going to be behind them...

Joe is great for wales and great for Britian.

damn is this kid for real?

he is both welsh and british allways has been allways will be.

i gonna remember you next time i discuss if americans are igmorant ore not.

You're the one dumb as hell. People a month ago were saying he wasn't british.
damn is this kid for real?

he is both welsh and british allways has been allways will be.

i gonna remember you next time i discuss if americans are igmorant ore not.

You're the one dumb as hell. People a month ago were saying he wasn't british.
It doesn't matter what people were saying, he's british as wales is part of britain. now go away and cry. :D

You're the one dumb as hell. People a month ago were saying he wasn't british.

your not american!

N. Ireland isn't in Great Britain, sorry to be a pedant. Its in the UK.

But of course Calzaghe is British, not ENGLISH. Wales has a strong identity of its own, but most welsh people I know consider themselves British. No idea about Joe though

Now he's british. How convenient.
It doesn't matter what people were saying, he's british as wales is part of britain. now go away and cry. :D

You're the one dumb as hell. People a month ago were saying he wasn't british.

so im an idiot cause you have spoken with someone who is an idiot?

nice logic

NOOO!!! It was more than one british poster. Anorak and Beowulf were some of them. They were disowning Calzaghe like a red headed step child.
so im an idiot cause you have spoken with someone who is an idiot?

nice logic

N. Ireland isn't in Great Britain, sorry to be a pedant. Its in the UK.

But of course Calzaghe is British, not ENGLISH. Wales has a strong identity of its own, but most welsh people I know consider themselves British. No idea about Joe though
What has Northern Ireland got to do with anything though? Joe is from Wales. the UK and britain are much the same thing anyway, and many people from Northern Ireland would consider themslves british anyway.

Bloodshed, how are Anorak and other disowing Calzaghe?

They were saying he wasn't british and that england was neutral territory for the lacy fight? Remember? Calzaghe isnt british...
Bloodshed, how are Anorak and other disowing Calzaghe?

There is nothing wrong with being proud to be Welsh or English or Scottish, but Calzaghe is British. He is a British citizen. He has an MBE from the queen. He is British.

They were saying he wasn't british and that england was neutral territory

well it was in theory, its not Joe Calzaghe's hometown.

They were saying he wasn't british and that england was neutral territory for the lacy fight? Remember? Calzaghe isnt british...

I thought he is british... :confused:

There is nothing wrong with being proud to be Welsh or English or Scottish, but Calzaghe is British. He is a British citizen. He has an MBE from the queen. He is British.
He is Welsh and British though. Don't see him accompanied to the ring with a Welsh flag for nothing :cool:

People were saying he wasn't ENGLISH, and thats right, he's still not english, he welsh. Hence why Jeff was trying to get the english crowd behind him to make it a England vs Wales. England, Wales, Scotland = Great Britain = British.

What your saying is like, hes from New York so he's not american... Or that he's French so he's not from Europe.

he is both british and welsh case closed

People were saying he wasn't ENGLISH, and thats right, he's still not english, he welsh. Hence why Jeff was trying to get the english crowd behind him to make it a England vs Wales. England, Wales, Scotland = Great Britain = British.

Hit it on the head near enough...

Though the media is sometimes commonly criticised so for example when Andy Murray in the tennis does well, he is British but when he plays crap, he is Scottish. The same could be said for Joe, when he boxes poorly, he is Welsh but when he fights well, the English are quickly to embrace him. Tongue in cheek really :boxing: But Joe is a proud Welshman firstly :cool:

I think he's talking about juyjuy here...who was convinced that joe wouldn't get very much support from english fans because he's welsh...and england "hates" wales.

Exactly, and now all these *****es are claiming Calzaghe as their father.
I think he's talking about juyjuy here...who was convinced that joe wouldn't get very much support from english fans because he's welsh...and england "hates" wales.

look guys as much as i hate this **** **** thread starter he is right. England is just one part of the United Kingdom, as is Wales. Referring to England when you mean the UK is the quickest way to upset the Welsh!

im scottish but im also british
joe's welsh and he is also british

hey crack head, i took your ass off block and you come back to flaming. lay that pipe down you younger version of raetaard.
look guys as much as i hate this **** **** thread starter he is right. England is just one part of the United Kingdom, as is Wales. Referring to England when you mean the UK is the quickest way to upset the Welsh!

Joe Calzaghe is a British boxer of half Italian and half Welsh descent, based in Wales. He was born on March 23, 1972, at Hammersmith Hospital, London, UK. Joe's father Enzo was born in Sardinia but had already spent many years living in England.

When Calzaghe was two years old the family moved to South Wales, from where Calzaghe's mother hailed. He is sometimes referred to as the "Italian Dragon" as a nod to his mixed heritage (the dragon being a Welsh emblem), or the "Pride of Wales".

we all have British passports. Unlike the thread starter, he certainly doesn't have a passport.

Anorak's too scared to reply. I caught his stupid ass here with this thread. Beowulf is scared too.

Hammersmith Hospital, London, UK.

I was born in that hospital, humm another reason to like him.

Really interesting thread because I can kinda relate it to my own country, the Philippines. There are many different type of Pinoys like Visayan, Ilocano, Tagalog, Cebuano, etc., etc. in an country with over 7000 islands. Each with their own dialect and very proud of their background. Alot of rivalries between these Pinoys too but againts non-pinoys we all come together and support our man. Manny Pac is Visayan. Visayans are known for being humble yet tough and rugged having alot of heart. Most of the Pinoy boxers that we see now are Visayan.

The Welsh are one of the 7 tribes of Gaels. The others are Irish, Scots, Cornish, Galician, Bretons, and Manx. Although part of Great Britain, like Scotland, they speak their own language and have their own culture. Anyway, Calzaghe is Italian, raised in Wales.

They don't speak their own launguages, thats only a minority. and he's a welsh italian, not italian.

???? Now he's british. :rolleyes:

LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZ.

???? Now he's british. :rolleyes:
It is indeed funny how the rascism of the mainland Britain and the hypocrisy of their media works.

In truth Cali deserved a better treatment from these B?>tards than what they treated him. He's no big name in Brit and is just dismissed as another fighter.

It's funny how the hypocrisy sets in when he wins against Lacy when we all know had he lost he would have been labeled that "welshman" lost. :)

Now they're saying that "brit" won.

Rascism and hypocrisy at its best.

It is indeed funny how the rascism of the mainland Britain and the hypocrisy of their media works.

In truth Cali deserved a better treatment from these B?>tards than what they treated him. He's no big name in Brit and is just dismissed as another fighter.

It's funny how the hypocrisy sets in when he wins against Lacy when we all know had he lost he would have been labeled that "welshman" lost. :)

Now they're saying that "brit" won.

Rascism and hypocrisy at its best.

if we are giving out awards for hypocritical media
then america wins hands down

if we are giving out awards for hypocritical media
then america wins hands down
Well, I'm not comparing American media to yours pal. It's no secret theirs is a lot worse and comical.

But the point is... How convenient it is to call Cali a brit when years ago they dismiss him as another "welsh" fighter.

How convenient is that?

Well, I'm not comparing American media to yours pal. It's no secret theirs is a lot worse and comical.

But the point is... How convenient it is to call Cali a brit when years ago they dismiss him as another "welsh" fighter.

How convenient is that?

u can be welsh and brit
english and brit
and scottish and brit so if someone calls him british they are right if another cals him welsh they are also right

I dont think anyone has ever claimed he WASNT british, I read many saying he wasnt English but saying he's not british cos he's welsh is like saying UK is not Europe. This is more or less like saying Jeff Lacy isnt black. Him being british or not isnt a matter of opinion, its a fact.

Now wether the English were supporting for him before or not and is now supporting for him now is a different story. I know in another forum alot of English were rooting against him cos Lacy claimed to be english therefore making it England vs Wales. Never once have I seen someone claim he wasnt British.

Someone find me one article, one post, thread that claims he isnt british?

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It is indeed funny how the rascism of the mainland Britain and the hypocrisy of their media works.

In truth Cali deserved a better treatment from these B?>tards than what they treated him. He's no big name in Brit and is just dismissed as another fighter.

It's funny how the hypocrisy sets in when he wins against Lacy when we all know had he lost he would have been labeled that "welshman" lost. :)

Now they're saying that "brit" won.

Rascism and hypocrisy at its best.

100% correctus.

Wales is a part of Great Britain, so Joe is British. But he is not English. England and Wales are different countries, so England can not and should not claim him as their own. It's like Americans claiming Canadien fighters as our own. Get the point?

On a second note, who really gives a ****? Lacy tried for the first time ever to actually fight someone and we found out he isn't the fighter everyone thought he was. Great fighters rise to the occasion, and this proved Lacy is not a great fighter. Case closed, live goes on.

I had numerous arguments on here with people saying that this fight was in Calzaghe's home town. Well it was in ENGLAND so if he's not ****ing BRITISH then it wasnt on his home turf. So well done to Joe for travelling abroad and winning a world title.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING!? YOU MUST BE!! JOE IS BRITISH AND WELSH. END - ****ING - OF

I think Im gonna change my name to Waleishwales in dedication to this post!!!

:D

Thank you... I wasn't the only one who noticed it...
It is indeed funny how the rascism of the mainland Britain and the hypocrisy of their media works.

In truth Cali deserved a better treatment from these B?>tards than what they treated him. He's no big name in Brit and is just dismissed as another fighter.

It's funny how the hypocrisy sets in when he wins against Lacy when we all know had he lost he would have been labeled that "welshman" lost. :)

Now they're saying that "brit" won.

Rascism and hypocrisy at its best.

That is utter crap! He's the second most popular boxer in Britain. Hatton is more popular because he is from Manchester which is a real fight town and because he has a very exciting style. Calzaghe had a big 'Good lucky Joe' column in The Sun, all the papers did big spreads on it - it received good coverage. All my mates - all English - watched it cheering on Joe. I travelled 500 miles to go watch it live, and I'm English. It was the fifth time i've seen Joe live.

Its different over here than you think. When England play cricket, the Welsh support us. When Wales play someone at a sport - unless its us - we support them.

You are talking about something you know nothing about. The media was one hundred per cent behind Joe because guess what - the press are BRITISH not ENGLISH!!! They wouldnt sell all that many papers or get many viewers/listeners if they slagged off whole countries that they broadcast to, would they!?

i dont get how the yanks can call britain racist over this
what im gonna say is gona offend a few if not lots but im 100% against racism of anyway but here it goes
the only way a coloured person gets recocnised in america is if hes good at sports

GREAT BRITAIN = ENGLAND , SCOTLAND, WALES, N'IRELAND
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The north of Ireland isn't actually part of Great Britain as you'll notice by the offical definition of the UK.

ie - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

GO ON JOE! FOOKIN SUPERB FIGHT! Best fight I've seen in a long while!

GO ON JOE! FOOKIN SUPERB FIGHT! Best fight I've seen in a long while!

You must have simply been impressed by the way Joe fought. Because that fight was a 1 sided ass beating and would not consider it a good fight.

LOL.

LOL Your right there!

A superb lesson on boxing 101 then.

And you would know this from what?
i dont get how the yanks can call britain racist over this
what im gonna say is gona offend a few if not lots but im 100% against racism of anyway but here it goes
the only way a coloured person gets recocnised in america is if hes good at sports

the only way a coloured person gets recocnised in america is if hes good at sports

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Not forgetting Dave Chappelle.

shut the **** up you twat.

hahaha hahaha u prick,lacy lost. he got his ass handed, shall i send you pics of the knock down. haha

GREAT BRITAIN = ENGLAND , SCOTLAND, WALES, N'IRELAND

BLOODSHED U NEED TO BE SCHOOLED JUST LIKE LACY WAS SCHOOLED IN THE MEN ARENA

It wasn't a knockdown, you tard. It hit his gloves, and their legs tangled causing him to fall.

By the way, it's Welsh, not Wale-ish.

Also, I said that the Brits were just hyping Calzaghe because he was British once, and at least ten of the ****ers got all on me about how he was Welsh, and not British, so that's not why they hyped him up.

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wow i posted somut and all you could come back with was 3 famous black ppl outta how many hundreds of million black citizens and another post asking me to explain myself.
i dont need to explain my opinion but you need to explain to me some hard facts to make me think otherwise.
and obviosuly i aint alone on what i said cause ive recieved some rep points for saying it

Jimmy Hendrix a black rock star!

Back to the subject at hand, stop trying to derail it. Why were you made to stay up at 3am to see a fight?
wow i posted somut and all you could come back with was 3 famous black ppl outta how many hundreds of million black citizens and another post asking me to explain myself.
i dont need to explain my opinion but you need to explain to me some hard facts to make me think otherwise.
and obviosuly i aint alone on what i said cause ive recieved some rep points for saying it

calzaghe beat an american
calzaghe beat an american
calzaghe beat an american

and why dont u put that gif back up blood
u know the one of what was supposed to happen

Back to the subject at hand, stop trying to derail it. Why were you made to stay up at 3am to see a fight?
and your a ****ing retard because the subject at hand in this thread is indeed joes nationality
and if your so clever go read my lastfew posts in this thread and u may understand

Responding to a question with a question is the first sign of defeat.
and your a ****ing retard because the subject at hand in this thread is indeed joes nationality
and if your so clever go read my lastfew posts in this thread and u may understand

N. Ireland isn't in Great Britain, sorry to be a pedant. Its in the UK.

But of course Calzaghe is British, not ENGLISH. Wales has a strong identity of its own, but most welsh people I know consider themselves British. No idea about Joe though

Sorry only seeing this now. Oops.

go back to school retard in my last post when did i present you with a question
apart from the above i never

Responding to a question with a question is the first sign of defeat.
Did you not get any attention when you were a kid or something?