View Full Version : Oleg Maskaev
FibreOptic 01-24-2005, 11:37 AM Is this guy for real? He wants Vitali. He thinks he can beat him based on the fact that Oleg beat Vitali in the amateurs. Before he steps up, why doesn't Maskaev try to get a rematch with McCall, Tua, Johnson, Whitaker, or Sanders?
Mikeystlasvegas22 01-24-2005, 11:48 AM Is this guy for real? He wants Vitali. He thinks he can beat him based on the fact that Oleg beat Vitali in the amateurs. Before he steps up, why doesn't Maskaev try to get a rematch with McCall, Tua, Johnson, Whitaker, or Sanders?
RUSSIA VS URKAINE AINT GOING TO HAPPEN BUT POLSKA VS URKAINE
VITALI VS GOLOTA END OF 2005 WBC POLSKA WINS THE TITLE
!!Captain 01-24-2005, 01:24 PM RUSSIA VS URKAINE AINT GOING TO HAPPEN BUT POLSKA VS URKAINE
VITALI VS GOLOTA END OF 2005 WBC POLSKA WINS THE TITLE
This has nothing to do with Russia vs. Ukraine, this is for the WBC belt. Maskaev calling out Vitaliy is nothing but a marketing strategy - the bigger name you call out the more everybody is going to talk about you.
I would love to see Vitaliy vs. Golota, it's about time Vitaliy starts unifying the belts. No chance in hell Golota wins.
ejk22 01-24-2005, 01:29 PM I think Golota has a better chance of defeating Vitali than Oleg Maskaev does. Vitali would destroy Maskaev within three rounds. One combo to Maskaev's chin would end the evening and send Maskaev to sleep. Golota at least can take a punch and give in return.
!!Captain 01-24-2005, 01:54 PM I think Golota has a better chance of defeating Vitali than Oleg Maskaev does. Vitali would destroy Maskaev within three rounds. One combo to Maskaev's chin would end the evening and send Maskaev to sleep. Golota at least can take a punch and give in return.
I don't know if Golota could take Vitaliy's strategy. Vitaliy would keep avoiding being hit in his usual manner and I think Golota would go nuts again.
Mr. Ryan 01-24-2005, 01:58 PM Is this guy for real? He wants Vitali. He thinks he can beat him based on the fact that Oleg beat Vitali in the amateurs. Before he steps up, why doesn't Maskaev try to get a rematch with McCall, Tua, Johnson, Whitaker, or Sanders?
Oleg Maskaev was a big right hand punching heavyweight contendor at one time. He was considered the 3rd best heavyweight in the world in 99 following his devastating KO's over Hasim Rahman and Derrick Jefferson. But then he ran into an undefeated Canadian named Kirk Johnson, who permanantly halted Maskaev's momentum. He is a very good right hand puncher, but he's slow and has a weak chin. I think he would get blown out by Vitali in a similar way to that of which Williams faced.
Neuraxis 01-24-2005, 02:00 PM This has nothing to do with Russia vs. Ukraine, this is for the WBC belt. Maskaev calling out Vitaliy is nothing but a marketing strategy - the bigger name you call out the more everybody is going to talk about you.
I would love to see Vitaliy vs. Golota, it's about time Vitaliy starts unifying the belts. No chance in hell Golota wins.
I wasn't aware that Golota had any belts.
theironone 01-24-2005, 02:19 PM Even though Oleg ko'd Vit in the amateurs, i'd really have to side with Vitali on this one, yeh Maskaev could get one of his big shots in and do the double but Klit is such an big clumsy awkward sod and is heavy handed himself even though his skills are very basic he'd probaly ko Maskaev in a handful of rounds, probably very similar to what he's gonna do to Rahman, obviously a punchers chance but thats about it
ejk22 01-24-2005, 02:22 PM I don't know if Golota could take Vitaliy's strategy. Vitaliy would keep avoiding being hit in his usual manner and I think Golota would go nuts again.
Golota has a very good reach so connecting with Vitali's face won't be that much of a problem.
ejk22 01-24-2005, 02:24 PM This supposed KO of Maskaev over Vitali is more than likely an exageration.
LuKahnLi 01-24-2005, 02:24 PM I will be cheering for Oleg, but no way can I pick him.
If he did win......I will strip down to my boxers and run outdoors in the snow.....
Neuraxis 01-24-2005, 02:26 PM This supposed KO of Maskaev over Vitali is more than likely an exageration.
Exactly it was amateurs and when Vitali went down in the fight it wasn't even ruled a KD.
!!Captain 01-24-2005, 02:32 PM I wasn't aware that Golota had any belts.
I should correct myself. If Golota wins over Brewster, Golota vs. Klichko would be unification. In my mind, Golota will win the fight with Brewster, King seems to be set on making Golota the champion, setting him up for a third championship fight in the row.
Eyeh8you 01-24-2005, 03:51 PM I should correct myself. If Golota wins over Brewster, Golota vs. Klichko would be unification. In my mind, Golota will win the fight with Brewster, King seems to be set on making Golota the champion, setting him up for a third championship fight in the row.Yeah and if Golota loses (hey you never know w/him) Look for King to try and get him to Fight Vitali. I would lose alot of respect for VK if he were to fight Golota for no wbo belt. Hell if VK were to Hold the WBC/WBO straps he would be able to say he is the real champ by default 2 to 1 to 1. UNIFICATION GODDAMIT :mad:
!!Captain 01-24-2005, 04:13 PM Yeah and if Golota loses (hey you never know w/him) Look for King to try and get him to Fight Vitali. I would lose alot of respect for VK if he were to fight Golota for no wbo belt. Hell if VK were to Hold the WBC/WBO straps he would be able to say he is the real champ by default 2 to 1 to 1. UNIFICATION GODDAMIT :mad:
VK must be nuts to fight Golota without a belt or any other King's boxer for that matter, so I doubt it will ever happen. It wouldn't help VK's ratings at all. I am surprised he is fighting Rahman but I guess he doesn't have a choice but to fight his mandatory.
dansweeney 01-24-2005, 04:22 PM Exactly it was amateurs and when Vitali went down in the fight it wasn't even ruled a KD.
actually it was a one punck knock out, vitali was on the canvas for 20 minutes motionless, and that's with headgear on
Neuraxis 01-24-2005, 04:32 PM actually it was a one punck knock out, vitali was on the canvas for 20 minutes motionless, and that's with headgear on
Someone is lying.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/negative4.jpg
Tha Greatest 01-24-2005, 04:33 PM i think golotas sort of cured
he didnt seem to do anythin tha night he fought RUIZ
and ANYONE would get frustrated with ruiz
dansweeney 01-24-2005, 04:35 PM Someone is lying.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/negative4.jpg
just playin man, i wish i could see it though, its hard to believe he could stop vitali with headgear on
i agree that king would like golota to win a belt... king can make alot more money off him then lame-ass brewster...
enegue 01-25-2005, 07:32 AM Vitali is no amateur now, he has vastly improved while Oleg has not improved much. His weak chin will betray him. Right now, I can't see him winning against Vitali.
dagame328 01-25-2005, 08:34 PM This would be a good defense for VK after the Rahman fight. An easy stay busy fight.
Enayze 01-25-2005, 09:07 PM Is this guy for real? He wants Vitali. He thinks he can beat him based on the fact that Oleg beat Vitali in the amateurs. Before he steps up, why doesn't Maskaev try to get a rematch with McCall, Tua, Johnson, Whitaker, or Sanders?
Maskaev never knocked out Vitali in the ameaturs as he wants you to believe. Vitali's corner stopped the fighter after the first round, because Vitali injured his hand, and the corner didn't want to further hurt it, as he was preparing for Kickboxing championship at Paris.
And of course if the corner halts a bout, it's ruled as a TKO, but its the type of TKO, you would rather not have. No where in the fight did Maskaev have Vitali hurt, or on the ground or anything similiar to the matter.
Kid Achilles 01-25-2005, 10:33 PM You guys are making too big of a deal about the headgear. It's there to protect you from cuts and make it so that every little jab and light punch is softened a bit. A punch that would knock you out without protection would do so even if you were wearing headgear. A KO occurs because you're head is smashed back so violently that your brain is jarred loose from its contact with the inside of your skull. A relatively thin layer of material is not going to prevent your head from snapping back. You'd need some kind of steel neck brace apparatus to accomplish that, and then you'd just get laughed out of the gym.
I've been hit with headgear and without and never noticed much of a difference except that your face is not so sore afterwords. A nice shot is a nice shot, and a puncher like Maskaev would KO a guy if he hit him flush on the chin regardless of what he had on his head. Chalk that loss up to inexperience and not a fault with Vit's chin.
!!Captain 01-26-2005, 01:57 AM Maskaev never knocked out Vitali in the ameaturs as he wants you to believe. Vitali's corner stopped the fighter after the first round, because Vitali injured his hand, and the corner didn't want to further hurt it, as he was preparing for Kickboxing championship at Paris.
And of course if the corner halts a bout, it's ruled as a TKO, but its the type of TKO, you would rather not have. No where in the fight did Maskaev have Vitali hurt, or on the ground or anything similiar to the matter.
I read an interview with the judge that was judging that fight. They stopped the fight because Vitaliy kept hitting Maskaev with the injured right hand. What's with Vitaliy and his hands, anyway? I never heard anybody having so many problems with hands after the fight. I hope this is nothing serious, it would suck if he had any problems with fighting on.
Neuraxis 01-26-2005, 05:25 PM I think that this is what you are talking about.
Here, the details of this fight described by former official, Vladimir Zolotaryov, who was present at that fight. “When talking about that fight, it’s necessary to begin with Ukrainian Games, that took place in spring of 1991 in Lutsk. Vitali while carring out three fights, won all of them in clear advantage, and injured his right fist in the last fight. Then he took the third place at the USSR Games, without taking a break for his hand to heal. Following that, he passed qualifications and made it into the championship of USSR Armed Forces. We’ll skip details of those fights, and focus on the final fight in Tashkent. The matter of fact, we didn’t have any desire to go there since Vitali had to prepare for Kickboxing world championship that took place in July in Paris.
We wanted to give Vitali time to heal so that he would be prepared for that championship since going to the world championship was much more prestigious. But the head of sports (USSR) gave order not only to go to Tashkent but also to return with a victory. That’s were the fight between Vitali and Oleg took place. I perfectly remember that fight. It was a semifinal. In Vitali’s corner – Michael Jakovlevich Matsih, and I was one of tournament’s judges. Before the fight, Michael and I warned Vitali that he must protect his right hand or we will remove him from competition.
Vitali carried out the first round strongly, boxing with only left. But at the end of round, Maskaev rushed towards him and Vitali met him with a right. In between rounds we warned Vitali again, and told him that if he strikes again with his right hand we will stop the fight. In second round Maskaev began aggressively and Vitali countered him with another right. That’s when I signaled Michaely Jakovlevichy to immediately throw in the towel. Even to this day I remember how angry was Vitali at me.
What happened after – Vitali became kickboxing world champion in Paris. And whenever I hear Oleg’s words that in the first round he knocked down Vitali thee times, I just start to smile.”
!!Captain 01-26-2005, 05:55 PM I think that this is what you are talking about.
That's it, I read it on Klichko's website
ejk22 01-26-2005, 07:42 PM Hey boxing2005 I asked you in another thread, is that picture on your avatar for real? or is it some computer generated image.
Neuraxis 01-26-2005, 10:50 PM Hey boxing2005 I asked you in another thread, is that picture on your avatar for real? or is it some computer generated image.
Its probably from Ocean's 11. Its on the Klitschko site.
Nautilus 01-26-2005, 10:51 PM Its probably from Ocean's 11. Its on the Klitschko site.
Who is the chick on the right in boxing2005's avatar?
freirui 01-27-2005, 12:50 AM No way king would like golota to win a belt!king hates all white boxers.
ejk22 01-27-2005, 10:07 AM Its probably from Ocean's 11. Its on the Klitschko site.
Is that Wlad or Vitali?
!!Captain 01-27-2005, 01:09 PM Hey boxing2005 I asked you in another thread, is that picture on your avatar for real? or is it some computer generated image.
Sorry ejk22, didn't see your question in another thread. It is for real, I believe that this is when they met in London after their fight. I know that Klichko met Lewis at Lewis' house, met his mother, had tea, talked, etc. I have seen this picture before and finally was able to download it from Klichko's web site.
!!Captain 01-27-2005, 01:10 PM Who is the chick on the right in boxing2005's avatar?
Nautilus, where have you been? It's been a while since I saw a post from you.
ejk22 01-27-2005, 03:24 PM Sorry ejk22, didn't see your question in another thread. It is for real, I believe that this is when they met in London after their fight. I know that Klichko met Lewis at Lewis' house, met his mother, had tea, talked, etc. I have seen this picture before and finally was able to download it from Klichko's web site.
No ****? These guys remind me of wrestlers, they act like they dislike one another in public then in private they play house together. LOL!!
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