View Full Version : NEWSFLASH: It's official, Lewis is coming back...*sighs*


Kimmy
01-23-2005, 06:56 AM
http://www.boxing-central.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5668

Site and date yet to be confirmed...

leff
01-23-2005, 07:18 AM
this is to good to be true.

onikami
01-23-2005, 07:25 AM
If this is true, then:

The Brit is Back. Watch out America.

Cletus Funk
01-23-2005, 07:29 AM
It's been on Sky Sports News all morning so it seems genuine.

KJ
01-23-2005, 07:59 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/4199637.stm

From the BBC

Advisors quiet over Lewis return

Lewis lost only two of 44 contests
Lennox Lewis' business advisor has refused to confirm reports Britain's former world heavyweight champion is set for a comeback "later this year".
Lewis told the Sunday Mirror: "The money is up to £21m and I simply can't turn that much cash down."

But Jerome Anderson would not comment on the story to BBC Radio Five Live.

Lewis, 39, retired last January but current heavyweight king Vitali Klitschko is keen to avenge his controversial loss to Lewis in 2003.

Lewis hinted at a return last month after Danny Williams' crushing defeat at the hands of Klitschko.

And the Sunday Mirror quoted Lewis as saying: "I'm going to start training seriously and I'm going back to England to start sorting this out.

"I need the money just like everyone else and it's just too good to be turned down."

Klitschko, the WBC champion, has repeatedly called on Lewis to fight him again since losing a bad-tempered brawl in Los Angeles.

The Ukrainian was well ahead on points before his challenge was ended by cuts.

Klitschko claims the former two-time world champion promised him a rematch after that fight.

AIR_KENG
01-23-2005, 08:09 AM
http://www.boxing-central.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5668

Site and date yet to be confirmed...
dude, that's £21 million, not dollars... well i guess $39.5 million is a difficult thing to turn down... win or lose...

SonnyG8R
01-23-2005, 08:22 AM
I doubt this fight will even happen. I find it hard to believe Lewis is short on cash and he could have had this fight years earlier for similair money. He quit rather than give Vit the rematch he'd promised him because he knew he would get his ass handed to him. I don't think getting a few years older will help his chances. This is just my opinion. That being said, I hope the fight does happen because it will dispell the myth of "the great Lennox Lewis" :p

spinksjinx
01-23-2005, 08:28 AM
I doubt this fight will even happen. I find it hard to believe Lewis is short on cash and he could have had this fight years earlier for similair money. He quit rather than give Vit the rematch he'd promised him because he knew he would get his ass handed to him. I don't think getting a few years older will help his chances. This is just my opinion. That being said, I hope the fight does happen because it will dispell the myth of "the great Lennox Lewis" :p



My point exactly, I cant imagine Lewis saying he needs money just like everybody else when time in and time out he has stated, he doesnt need the money he is financially set.

I call that article bull****! and cant imagine Lennox making such comments.

Truth
01-23-2005, 09:19 AM
Thats big news, at first I was thinking Lennox shouldn't comeback but for 21 million and a huge fight this year,I think this is a great move by Lewis.

spinksjinx
01-23-2005, 09:24 AM
Thats big news, at first I was thinking Lennox shouldn't comeback but for 21 million and a huge fight this year,I think this is a great move by Lewis.


thats £21 as stated which rounds out to be around $40 million U.S. Dollars, This is the biggest heavyweight fight to be made right now. But I dont think anyone would pony up that kind of dough for it though.

Toller
01-23-2005, 09:27 AM
Why would it dispell the "myth"? Did Berbick beating Ali dispell the myth of Ali's greatness?

onikami
01-23-2005, 09:31 AM
thats £21 as stated which rounds out to be around $40 million U.S. Dollars, This is the biggest heavyweight fight to be made right now. But I dont think anyone would pony up that kind of dough for it though.

What the **** does 'Pony up' mean?

spinksjinx
01-23-2005, 09:35 AM
What the **** does 'Pony up' mean?


Pay up.


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Fistecles
01-23-2005, 09:46 AM
I'd like to see this happen, and I'd like Klitko to win.

SonnyG8R
01-23-2005, 09:56 AM
Why would it dispell the "myth"? Did Berbick beating Ali dispell the myth of Ali's greatness?

No, but it did tarnish his legacy somewhat. Ali dominated the greatest era of heavywieghts ever dispite having 3 and a half years of his prime stolen from him. Lewis' claim to fame is beating an overthehill Holyfield and Tyson. No comparison in my opinion.

Truth
01-23-2005, 10:03 AM
Do you think Emanuel Steward will train him still?

spinksjinx
01-23-2005, 10:11 AM
Do you think Emanuel Steward will train him still?


Most definately, Steward said if Lennox were to come back he would be by his side.

BrooklynBomber
01-23-2005, 10:18 AM
Very intersting. I hope this is true.

tri4ben2
01-23-2005, 10:19 AM
It is hard not to get exited about this.

I think that Lewis is coming back because he did not like the way he won his last fight.

The $40 million is just an added bonus.

Expect to see Lewis train as hard as he can and givfve VK a run for his money.

Truth
01-23-2005, 10:25 AM
I would definitley order this PPV, this last year would have been a big fight but this year its a huge fight. Remember though Klitcshko has to get by Rahman first, and that won't be easy.

riz
01-23-2005, 10:34 AM
i still dun think hell come bak hopefully he does tho

JOM'S
01-23-2005, 10:40 AM
No, but it did tarnish his legacy somewhat. Ali dominated the greatest era of heavywieghts ever dispite having 3 and a half years of his prime stolen from him. Lewis' claim to fame is beating an overthehill Holyfield and Tyson. No comparison in my opinion.

absolutely right buddy no comparison at all ...

leff
01-23-2005, 10:56 AM
Do you think Emanuel Steward will train him still?

Manny was asked this question in an interwieve when he signed with the klitschko, and he said he would stay with the klitschko`s even if LL came back.

Fareastwarrior
01-23-2005, 11:41 AM
Is Lennox Lewis fooling us? That guy earned perhaps 50-70 milion dollars in his boxing career. Is he in financial trouble or is he just acting someone who needs a social welfare? Perhaps the taxes in UK increased. :D

spinksjinx
01-23-2005, 12:26 PM
Is Lennox Lewis fooling us? That guy earned perhaps 50-70 milion dollars in his boxing career. Is he in financial trouble or is he just acting someone who needs a social welfare? Perhaps the taxes in UK increased. :D


Which is why, I think that article is Bogus. Lewis had his whole wardrobe handed to him and isnt a big spender. That article is BULL****! to me, Lennox NEVER! brings up his financial issues EVER!

Leff-Steward works with Wladimir now not Vitali. Steward and Vitali had a dispute a while back I think and I have no idea what is up with universum and the klitschkos but they are legally binded to use a certain trainer.


Steward would definatly be next to Lennox.

spinksjinx
01-23-2005, 12:30 PM
BREAKING NEWS
Lewis: I'm coming back!
Former heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis says he's coming back. "I've had to listen to a lot of rubbish from Klitschko and he is starting to get on my nerves," said Lewis to the Sunday Mirror. "I'm making a comeback later this year. The money is up to 21 million pounds (US$39.3 million) right now and I simply can't turn that much cash down. I'm going to start training seriously and I'm going back to England to start sorting this out," said Lewis, who lives in Jamaica's Montego Bay. I need the money just like everyone else and it's just too good to turn down."


ARGH! Lewis you fool!

I stand corrected in my previous posts about Lewis and his financial issues... :mad: LEWIS YOU FOOL!

Making the same mistake every great heavyweight does.

:(

DLT
01-23-2005, 12:31 PM
http://www.boxing-central.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5668

Site and date yet to be confirmed...
I think that Lewis said on Boxing Talk that it is 21 million pounds which is 39 million US dollars and its going up. I think. Go look at it

Pno
01-23-2005, 12:43 PM
Which is why, I think that article is Bogus. Lewis had his whole wardrobe handed to him and isnt a big spender. That article is BULL****! to me, Lennox NEVER! brings up his financial issues EVER!

Leff-Steward works with Wladimir now not Vitali. Steward and Vitali had a dispute a while back I think and I have no idea what is up with universum and the klitschkos but they are legally binded to use a certain trainer.


Steward would definatly be next to Lennox.

They are out of their contract with Universum. They are now a part of their own promotions company, K2.

Pno
01-23-2005, 12:46 PM
YES!!! woooo hoooo!!!
hopefully there will be a solid outcome so there will be no more talk or debate of Lewis / Klitschko etc. It should be an all out war. It might even go to decision... or maybe not.
:p

Atwa_66
01-23-2005, 12:47 PM
Great news!
Vitali is going to own Lennox, It's not even going to be funny. Vitali has only gotten better since the first LL fight, and Lennox has only grown older, I don't see where Lennox thinks he will stand a chance against Vitali Klitschko, it will be fun to watch though...

scap
01-23-2005, 12:48 PM
2005 is going to be one helluva year!

Bryght
01-23-2005, 12:49 PM
Good! Klitschko can now finish the job and batter Lummox Lewis into re-retirement in front of all his mindless fans. He embarassed Lewis before and he'll do it again. The first time they fought, the WBC sent their ring doctor in prematurely to rescue the battered and losing chumpion. Anyway, we all know that his return is nothing but a big payday. Other than being embarassed by Klitschko again, Lummox has nothing to lose here. If he wins (no way expect to bring a gun into the ring), he gets to be the immortal champion (laughs). If he loses, everyone will just say that he was too old and pat him on the back and say, "Hey, Ali and Holmes tried to come back, too." Then he can slink back into retirement and we can be rid of his overrated ass forever.

VK will win the fight regardless.

Pno
01-23-2005, 12:51 PM
call me stupid or use standard hater tactics on me or whatever.... but either way, intended or not, this could really hamper VK's match with Rahman... VK is the type to only look at what is right in front of him, so he won't get surprised or under-estimate his opponent... but this is a true test.. This is probably all he's hoped for since it happened (rematch with Lewis).. how can he not think about it now? It almost seems like a tactic, even though it might not be intended.

Despite the fact that this type of thing does happen, why would they hype up these kinds of fights before the participants even pass needed tests i.e. bouts that set it up (in this case VK vs Rahman)

:confused:

spinksjinx
01-23-2005, 12:58 PM
They are out of their contract with Universum. They are now a part of their own promotions company, K2.


That is what I head heard, but Kohl was also quoted as saying they are still in courts about it.

I dont think Manny trains Vitali now though, so I dont see why he would in the Lewis fight.

I always had the vision, that after the brewster fiasco Wladimir and Vitali had exterminated their ties with Manny.

spinksjinx
01-23-2005, 01:04 PM
call me stupid or use standard hater tactics on me or whatever.... but either way, intended or not, this could really hamper VK's match with Rahman... VK is the type to only look at what is right in front of him, so he won't get surprised or under-estimate his opponent... but this is a true test.. This is probably all he's hoped for since it happened (rematch with Lewis).. how can he not think about it now? It almost seems like a tactic, even though it might not be intended.

Despite the fact that this type of thing does happen, why would they hype up these kinds of fights before the participants even pass needed tests i.e. bouts that set it up (in this case VK vs Rahman)

:confused:


That is what I was thinking, but who knows. The WBC is ****ING GREEDY! So Rahman may get the shaft.


BRYGHT-You may want to reassess your opinions and thoughts. The doctor did not stop the fight prematurely. The cut that was on Vitali's face was critical no matter how much Vitali screams he could still see. A cut that deep definately needs to stop a fight. His face looked like newspaper, that was the worst cut I had seen in years.

If Lennox comes in INSHAPE! and hasnt slowed down a bit, which I think he has. Then I give the decision to Lennox. However Vitali's speed will play a major factor, not his power. If Vitali can manage to stay active and come forward he has the fight in the bag. But if Lennox comes in at a low weight, we may have a decision going to Lennox. This match is a toss up but it favors Klitschko due to Lewis's inactivity.

Bad for Lennox
Good for Vitali

Unfortunately, it is the biggest heavyweight fight out their right now.

m00ks
01-23-2005, 01:07 PM
Everyone has a price.

Enayze
01-23-2005, 01:17 PM
Which is why, I think that article is Bogus. Lewis had his whole wardrobe handed to him and isnt a big spender. That article is BULL****! to me, Lennox NEVER! brings up his financial issues EVER!

Leff-Steward works with Wladimir now not Vitali. Steward and Vitali had a dispute a while back I think and I have no idea what is up with universum and the klitschkos but they are legally binded to use a certain trainer.


Steward would definatly be next to Lennox.

It's all over the websites, this is very true.

tracylee
01-23-2005, 01:19 PM
BREAKING NEWS
Lewis: I'm coming back!
Former heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis says he's coming back. "I've had to listen to a lot of rubbish from Klitschko and he is starting to get on my nerves," said Lewis to the Sunday Mirror. "I'm making a comeback later this year. The money is up to 21 million pounds (US$39.3 million) right now and I simply can't turn that much cash down. I'm going to start training seriously and I'm going back to England to start sorting this out," said Lewis, who lives in Jamaica's Montego Bay. I need the money just like everyone else and it's just too good to turn down."


ARGH! Lewis you fool!

I stand corrected in my previous posts about Lewis and his financial issues... :mad: LEWIS YOU FOOL!

Making the same mistake every great heavyweight does.

:(

Wow, I'm shocked! I thought he had to worry about money about as much as Holyfield did..as in not at all.
Ah spinks, dont call the man a fool..atleast this way he can beat Vitali again and put a stop to all the speculation and nonsense ;) I wish he'd stay retired too but not cause I think Vitali can beat him; matter of fact I believe that if Lewis comes in at his normal weight he wont get so tired so quick and it's all over for Klitschko. But he has plenty of money (or so I thought) and a new family to foucs on, and he did go out on top! :confused:

tracylee
01-23-2005, 01:24 PM
Good! Klitschko can now finish the job and batter Lummox Lewis into re-retirement in front of all his mindless fans. He embarassed Lewis before and he'll do it again. The first time they fought, the WBC sent their ring doctor in prematurely to rescue the battered and losing chumpion. Anyway, we all know that his return is nothing but a big payday. Other than being embarassed by Klitschko again, Lummox has nothing to lose here. If he wins (no way expect to bring a gun into the ring), he gets to be the immortal champion (laughs). If he loses, everyone will just say that he was too old and pat him on the back and say, "Hey, Ali and Holmes tried to come back, too." Then he can slink back into retirement and we can be rid of his overrated ass forever.

VK will win the fight regardless.

Unreal, and unnecessary. "Mindless fans"? Good thing that his fans dont call all Klit fans something similar :rolleyes:
As how does the fight being stopped before Vitalis eye fell out constitute the ring doctor 'saving' Lennox?? If I remember correctly, Lennox had not a mark on him, but Vitali had to have reconstructive surgery? Funny how fans can twist the facts out of porportion til theyre damn near unrecgonizable :eek:

Bryght
01-23-2005, 01:33 PM
Opinion will always vary on that subject, but which fighter refused a rematch and retired and which fighter wanted the rematch and is now the world champion? Can't twist that fact.

An immediate rematch meant a title loss for Lewis and he KNEW that, so he ran into the safe and warm arms of retirement in order to dodge a career-ending bullet.

Because of his immense greed, now Lummox wants the fight. He can't win, but he's a money whore so he'll take the monster check and retreat after the loss.

Enough said. End of discussion.

tracylee
01-23-2005, 01:37 PM
Opinion will always vary on that subject, but which fighter refused a rematch and retired and which fighter wanted the rematch and is now the world champion? Can't twist that fact.

Only now does Lummox want the fight. If it happens, he's in for a hell of a beating and another retirement and that's for sure!

Enough said. End of discussion.

I was replying to your comment that his fans are mindless, and that the fight was stopped in order to save Lennox, which clearly was not the case. NOW, end of discussion, thank you!

leff
01-23-2005, 01:43 PM
Which is why, I think that article is Bogus. Lewis had his whole wardrobe handed to him and isnt a big spender. That article is BULL****! to me, Lennox NEVER! brings up his financial issues EVER!

Leff-Steward works with Wladimir now not Vitali. Steward and Vitali had a dispute a while back I think and I have no idea what is up with universum and the klitschkos but they are legally binded to use a certain trainer.


Steward would definatly be next to Lennox.

well atleast he said he was with the klits now and wouldent go back to LL even if he should come back.

i know sdunek is vit`s main trainer it doesent mean Manny doesent work with him. ore atleast i think so.

Anyway Manny is a decent guy so i doubt Manny would help LL against VK at the same time as he trains wlad.

tracylee
01-23-2005, 01:47 PM
well atleast he said he was with the klits now and wouldent go back to LL even if he should come back.

i know sdunek is vit`s main trainer it doesent mean Manny doesent work with him. ore atleast i think so.

Anyway Manny is a decent guy so i doubt Manny would help LL against VK at the same time as he trains wlad.

Even as a Lewis fan, I can admit it would be wrong to go back to Lewis as a trainer now, if only cause he knows what he knows about the klits. Gossen did that to Casamayor when he was let go..I understand that he needed work or whatever, but to go directly to the guy (corrales) he was scheduled to fight next?? Just seems wrong to me :confused: Which is what gave Corrales the 'edge' he needed to beat Joel, I think

leff
01-23-2005, 01:51 PM
THIS IS SO GREAT. :)

VK by tko ore ko in 8.

QueenCity
01-23-2005, 02:00 PM
Wow if he is coming back it really surprises me. From listening to his interveiws it sounded like he was happy being retired from boxing, but I guess the big paydays and the unfinsihed business against Vitali was to big to pass up.

tracylee
01-23-2005, 02:02 PM
Wow if he is coming back it really surprises me. From listening to his interveiws it sounded like he was happy being retired from boxing, but I guess the big paydays and the unfinsihed business against Vitali was to big to pass up.

I dont know..its real easy to get caught up in the idea, hell, I'm excited just thinking it's possible..but, until an offical press release where Lennox tells us its for real I hesitate to buy into it completely. It just doesnt sound like Lennox at all..him talking about his finances? Lennox Lewis?? No way! Doesnt sound like the LL I know!

The Fix
01-23-2005, 02:04 PM
wow :eek: i actually thought lewis wouldnt comeback. he is a moron he is past his prime and klit is in the middle of his. hopefully lewis takes this seriously because he will need to train extremely hard. my prediction is Lewis TKO 9. i think an inshape lewis is just too much for v klit.

riz
01-23-2005, 02:05 PM
ye its official just read it on *********.... Klitschko is not going to lose his concentration tho, he'll beat rahman first then start talking about the rematch.. one thing there was the link at box central, and it said a quote from lewis, "that night was the last fight in my proffesional career" sumthing like that.

can't wait for this
i hope kltischko kills him... klitschko has improved even more since the first fight... he's going to go at him early, use his jab, and his right hand

thats all lewis is going to c one two's, one two's. and his ass is gona go down
good night lewis RIP (good night u ungrateful bastard)

Pno
01-23-2005, 02:05 PM
If I remember correctly, Lennox had not a mark on him, but Vitali had to have reconstructive surgery? Funny how fans can twist the facts out of porportion til theyre damn near unrecgonizable :eek:


Lenox did actually have quite a nasty cut on his nose at the end of the fight. An interesting place to have a cut. There were some other marks and cuts here and there, but not as bad as VK's eye gouge..

Truth
01-23-2005, 02:07 PM
Lennox is going to be so motivated to not screw up because he will think about the past fighters who came back and got beaten up.

tracylee
01-23-2005, 02:10 PM
Lenox did actually have quite a nasty cut on his nose at the end of the fight. An interesting place to have a cut. There were some other marks and cuts here and there, but not as bad as VK's eye gouge..

Hmmm, interesting..you'd think that if Lennox has the weak set of whiskers that so many claim he owns that with Vitali hitting him on the nose hard enough to cut him it would have knocked him out...see, this can open a whole different can of worms! Good thing I'm not like some Klit fans, cause then I'd have to ask if those little cuts and scratches could have come from headbutts and/or tape, etc. :D

Pno
01-23-2005, 02:11 PM
That is what I head heard, but Kohl was also quoted as saying they are still in courts about it.

I dont think Manny trains Vitali now though, so I dont see why he would in the Lewis fight.

I always had the vision, that after the brewster fiasco Wladimir and Vitali had exterminated their ties with Manny.

I don't think Kohl will ever admit that he doesn't still have the Klitschko brothers... check out www.klitschko.com for news regarding the court case.. that site could be biased, but I doubt they would out and out lie about that outcome..

Clash of Interests might be a reason to question Immanuel Stewart's training, concerning WK, LL, etc.

I may be a conspiracy theorist, but I can be quoted as saying way back when Stewart started working with the Klitschko brothers, that Stewart was just trying to sabotage them for LL. Sounds silly and prolly not true, but the only one that has fallen so far is WK, and he's the one the Stewart is so involved with..
:eek: :D

Pno
01-23-2005, 02:12 PM
Even as a Lewis fan, I can admit it would be wrong to go back to Lewis as a trainer now, if only cause he knows what he knows about the klits. Gossen did that to Casamayor when he was let go..I understand that he needed work or whatever, but to go directly to the guy (corrales) he was scheduled to fight next?? Just seems wrong to me :confused: Which is what gave Corrales the 'edge' he needed to beat Joel, I think

that's a good point..
so should IS not train EITHER? since he spent so much time with LL and now works at least some with VK?

leff
01-23-2005, 02:15 PM
Hmmm, interesting..you'd think that if Lennox has the weak set of whiskers that so many claim he owns that with Vitali hitting him on the nose hard enough to cut him it would have knocked him out...see, this can open a whole different can of worms! Good thing I'm not like some Klit fans, cause then I'd have to ask if those little cuts and scratches could have come from headbutts and/or tape, etc. :D

now your just beeing ridicolus, vk landet like 120 to LL 80, had more gas left, won 4 of 6 rounds, rocked LL which LL couldnt even do to vit with those monster uppercuts.

And the cut came from scraping get real.

tracylee
01-23-2005, 02:15 PM
that's a good point..
so should IS not train EITHER? since he spent so much time with LL and now works at least some with VK?

No, neither..but thats unrealistic, and I admit it. In a perfect world it may go down that way, but this world is far from it. I was very unhappy with Steward when he took the Klits under his wing, but, then again, Lewis WAS retired, and I honestly didnt think he'd ever return (has no need to) so I didnt see the harm. Now I do, if Lennox really does come back. But, like I said, I will believe it when I see the press conference ;)

Pno
01-23-2005, 02:15 PM
Hmmm, interesting..you'd think that if Lennox has the weak set of whiskers that so many claim he owns that with Vitali hitting him on the nose hard enough to cut him it would have knocked him out...see, this can open a whole different can of worms! Good thing I'm not like some Klit fans, cause then I'd have to ask if those little cuts and scratches could have come from headbutts and/or tape, etc. :D

actually sources say that it was from pulling his corn-rows too tight...

:D

Kimmy
01-23-2005, 02:16 PM
That might be true. if so, Lennox is a whore for money!

leff
01-23-2005, 02:19 PM
That might be true. if so, Lennox is a whore for money!

Hey who wouldent take a baeting for 21millin pounds?

i sure would, besides they got unfinished buizness

Pno
01-23-2005, 02:19 PM
No, neither..but thats unrealistic, and I admit it. In a perfect world it may go down that way, but this world is far from it. I was very unhappy with Steward when he took the Klits under his wing, but, then again, Lewis WAS retired, and I honestly didnt think he'd ever return (has no need to) so I didnt see the harm. Now I do, if Lennox really does come back. But, like I said, I will believe it when I see the press conference ;)

plus, IM's gotta be thinking that he may somehow be blamed or praised for a loss/win for either side.... does he want to become a scape-goat for either side?

Pno
01-23-2005, 02:21 PM
That might be true. if so, Lennox is a whore for money!

they say we all 'live according to our means', but I can't see how someone can possibly (wisely) spend so much cash personally...
!!!
:confused:

The Fix
01-23-2005, 02:23 PM
what is happening to the rahman fight? i was looking forward to that

tracylee
01-23-2005, 02:25 PM
plus, IM's gotta be thinking that he may somehow be blamed or praised for a loss/win for either side.... does he want to become a scape-goat for either side?

and thats a good point too! I'm not trying to piss anyone off, but when Wlads corner blamed Sousa for his loss it made me think that anybody that can be blamed other than themselves..BLAME THEM!! So, it would be best if all parties invovled removed themselves from this 'supposed' rematch. Then there will be nobody to blame at all. Sousa is an excellent cut man..one of the sports best, and to blame him was just so wrong and possibly a blemish in alot of the publics eye where Wlad is concerned. Even alot of commentators had a problem with that one!

ejk22
01-23-2005, 02:26 PM
When Vitali defeats Rahman, this rematch against Lewis will be even bigger. As far as the money is concerned, I doubt Lewis will get paid the full 40 million. It will probably be split between the two fighters.

tracylee
01-23-2005, 02:28 PM
now your just beeing ridicolus, vk landet like 120 to LL 80, had more gas left, won 4 of 6 rounds, rocked LL which LL couldnt even do to vit with those monster uppercuts.

And the cut came from scraping get real.

It was meant as a joke (you'll notice the smiley face) but the minute you call me rediculous is the min. were thru debating. Thats okay..I've been going back and forth with other klit fans that dont feel that type of **** is necessary!

tracylee
01-23-2005, 02:29 PM
actually sources say that it was from pulling his corn-rows too tight...

:D

Oooohhhh, you got me!!!!! :D

ejk22
01-23-2005, 02:31 PM
and thats a good point too! I'm not trying to piss anyone off, but when Wlads corner blamed Sousa for his loss it made me think that anybody that can be blamed other than themselves..BLAME THEM!! So, it would be best if all parties invovled removed themselves from this 'supposed' rematch. Then there will be nobody to blame at all. Sousa is an excellent cut man..one of the sports best, and to blame him was just so wrong and possibly a blemish in alot of the publics eye where Wlad is concerned. Even alot of commentators had a problem with that one!
Not saying that this theory the Klits had with Souza is true, but anyone can be bought or bribed. Especially when Don King is involved. If he shells out money to Souza to sabotage Wladimir who's to say he wouldn't do it.

leff
01-23-2005, 02:31 PM
It was meant as a joke (you'll notice the smiley face) but the minute you call me rediculous is the min. were thru debating. Thats okay..I've been going back and forth with other klit fans that dont feel that type of **** is necessary!

The ridiculos was stated to what i didnt know was a joke.

no harm intended

tracylee
01-23-2005, 02:32 PM
Not saying that this theory the Klits had with Souza is true, but anyone can be bought or bribed. Especially when Don King is involved. If he shells out money to Souza to sabotage Wladimir who's to say he wouldn't do it.

True, but I cant see him being bought. He's been in the business way too long, I just dont buy it :confused:

tracylee
01-23-2005, 02:34 PM
The ridiculos was stated to what i didnt know was a joke.

no harm intended

It was a joke (cause to have meant it WOULD be rediculous)..I love the back and forth banter with the respectful Klit fans cause they are so few in number. and alot of them are quite knowledgable too! ;)

Kimmy
01-23-2005, 02:44 PM
This is the biggest fight in heavyweight division and the biggest pay day for everyone involved. I see allot of bending in wills for this to take place. I reckon Klit takes the short end of the purise, about 40%, cause he knows a win over Lewis would reep its own rewards. Lewis might get a 20 milllion payday. Can`t be bad business, but Lewis is risking a legacy!

adeelr
01-23-2005, 02:49 PM
IF lewis takes this fight he will get his head knocked into his body...because Vitali has been hungry of this fight for a long long time..had it not been for the cut he developed, he would have won the first battle...so this is a stupid mistake...Lewis will destroy his legacy that he built in peculiar fashion.

duncangerman
01-23-2005, 02:56 PM
Lewis is taking a risk, but a risk against an overated donkey with no style who just walks forward with his hands down and his chin hanging out. Cant see VK winning, too easy for Lewis to hit.

!! Anorak
01-23-2005, 03:11 PM
A Lewis return would be a good thing, but how long would he be back for? One fight? It's just a temporary stop gap on the division... we need the next guy.

spinksjinx
01-23-2005, 03:20 PM
Wow, I'm shocked! I thought he had to worry about money about as much as Holyfield did..as in not at all.
Ah spinks, dont call the man a fool..atleast this way he can beat Vitali again and put a stop to all the speculation and nonsense ;) I wish he'd stay retired too but not cause I think Vitali can beat him; matter of fact I believe that if Lewis comes in at his normal weight he wont get so tired so quick and it's all over for Klitschko. But he has plenty of money (or so I thought) and a new family to foucs on, and he did go out on top! :confused:



The only reason, Lewis was so heavy was he was fighting a guy who was heavy and wanted to use his weight to lean on him and take away the hand speed kirk johnson possessed.

Vitali was in tip top shape, he was fighting a hot prospect in Boswel who posed a threat at the time.

Lewis, was prepared for Johnson, Vitali was a different man and would require a different training regimen. Vitali was prepared for a lewis'esque type fighter.

leff
01-23-2005, 03:25 PM
The only reason, Lewis was so heavy was he was fighting a guy who was heavy and wanted to use his weight to lean on him and take away the hand speed kirk johnson possessed.

Vitali was in tip top shape, he was fighting a hot prospect in Boswel who posed a threat at the time.

Lewis, was prepared for Johnson, Vitali was a different man and would require a different training regimen. Vitali was prepared for a lewis'esque type fighter.

Do you realy think he was prepared for LL while he was supposed to fight boswell????

LL is in an completly different league than boswell, LL was preparing for johnson, so logically LL should have been in better shape than Vk cause he was preparing for a better fighter

Pno
01-23-2005, 03:26 PM
The only reason, Lewis was so heavy was he was fighting a guy who was heavy and wanted to use his weight to lean on him and take away the hand speed kirk johnson possessed.

Vitali was in tip top shape, he was fighting a hot prospect in Boswel who posed a threat at the time.

Lewis, was prepared for Johnson, Vitali was a different man and would require a different training regimen. Vitali was prepared for a lewis'esque type fighter.

I see some of the concept of what you're talking about...
BUT.. at the same time, champions become champions by doing what they do best.. the minute they change what they do, they LOSE.
I don't think there's ever a reason for a HW champ to not be at his best, and in my opinion is NOT fat/overweight, doesn't muscle weigh more? isn't fat bad for many other conditining aspects? I don't think LL would allow being fat as a part of his preparation, but I could be wrong.
:)

Pno
01-23-2005, 03:43 PM
True, but I cant see him being bought. He's been in the business way too long, I just dont buy it :confused:

so WK blamed Sousa for the loss to Brewster?
they blamed him as the inside man that sabotaged the water bottle? is that right?
I'm just curious, I didn't know he was blamed, and I didn't think that there was a cut in that fight.
:confused:

spinksjinx
01-23-2005, 04:18 PM
I see some of the concept of what you're talking about...
BUT.. at the same time, champions become champions by doing what they do best.. the minute they change what they do, they LOSE.
I don't think there's ever a reason for a HW champ to not be at his best, and in my opinion is NOT fat/overweight, doesn't muscle weigh more? isn't fat bad for many other conditining aspects? I don't think LL would allow being fat as a part of his preparation, but I could be wrong.
:)


It's easier to come in a few pounds heavier with fat than with muscle. Lennox did just that, I dont think he trained like a champion for the preparation of Johnson, but I do believe he was going to come in heavier due to him fighting a smaller guy and he could use his weight to press against him.

riz
01-23-2005, 04:43 PM
without manny on his side can he win??? i doubt it, he'll tell klitschko all of lewis's flaws, every one of them. who's lewis gona get buddy mcgirt, no disrespect to buddy, u my boy, but starting off with a new trainer at age 39, past ur prime, and taking on a 6'9 250 pound giant is a hard situation

MlLkMan
01-23-2005, 04:46 PM
Too much money to turn down.

jack_the_rippuh
01-23-2005, 06:46 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
I guess Lewis is coming back, because he doesn't want people to see Vitali as being the other undefeatable fighter in the era..
He also wants to erase any doubt from some of you ****ers' mind that Vitali could have beat him..

Pno
01-23-2005, 06:57 PM
He also wants to erase any doubt from some of you ****ers' mind that Vitali could have beat him..


that's right..
this next fight will erase any doubt that Vitali can beat LL from minds....

phallus
01-23-2005, 07:43 PM
Lennox is going to be so motivated to not screw up because he will think about the past fighters who came back and got beaten up.


i only wish it were that simple, coming out of retirement when you're 39 is way different from being an active fighter who is 39. stopping training, and then starting again is a nightmare, and the ring rust, **** lennox, this is a mistake. a prime lennox lewis destroys frankenstein, but lennox's ego won't let him see that he'll never be prime lennox again. ****, i thought he was smart for getting out just at the right time, when his skils were starting to go, now he decides after sitting on his lard ass for a year getting rusty he's gonna come back. **** WHY LENNOX??? his timing will be off, his legs are history, his reflexes will be diminshed, but he's still got the big right hand. ****, ****, ****...???

fist-of-fury
01-23-2005, 08:43 PM
i only wish it were that simple, coming out of retirement when you're 39 is way different from being an active fighter who is 39. stopping training, and then starting again is a nightmare, and the ring rust, **** lennox, this is a mistake. a prime lennox lewis destroys frankenstein, but lennox's ego won't let him see that he'll never be prime lennox again. ****, i thought he was smart for getting out just at the right time, when his skils were starting to go, now he decides after sitting on his lard ass for a year getting rusty he's gonna come back. **** WHY LENNOX??? his timing will be off, his legs are history, his reflexes will be diminshed, but he's still got the big right hand. ****, ****, ****...???

21 million pounds is a LOT of moolah, big enough to raise even the dead from the grave! While this news is certainly GOOD news, the thing is Lennox should be honest with himself (and us fans).

If he honestly think he still got what it takes to be in the ring one more time with Vitaly and can give us our money's worth, then the fans will forever extol him for bringing HW boxing back to life. :)

Otherwise, if he knows he's already washed up but nevertheless grabs the offer solely because of the big money, then the boxing world will never forgive him for life for being unfair and making big fools of us! :(

phallus
01-23-2005, 08:47 PM
21 million pounds is a LOT of moolah, big enough to raise even the dead from the grave!

Otherwise, if he knows he's already washed up but nevertheless grabs the offer solely because of the big money, then the boxing world will never forgive him for life for being unfair and making big fools of us! :(


you said it, bro!

BrooklynBomber
01-23-2005, 09:15 PM
I just heard ********** reports Lewis does not come back. WTF, have we been fooled once again?

BrooklynBomber
01-23-2005, 09:24 PM
Lennox Lewis: "I am not returning to the ring!"
********** Gets It Straight From The Horses Mouth!

By G. Leon

January 23, 2005 - Former undisputed heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis released the following statement to **********.com, "I'd like to address the stories that are circulating in the press regarding my return to the ring. I want to reiterate what I said when I retired in February 2004 that I was fortunate to leave the sport on my own terms and that I will be one of the few heavyweight champions in history to retire on top and stay retired. I boxed professionally for many years and there will always be an attraction to the sport, but I am not returning to the ring. The recent attention given to the possibility of a comeback is flattering and evidences the public's desire for someone to establish a legacy similar to the one I left behind as the true heavyweight champion of the world," said Lewis. Much more to follow.

Just dont shoot the messenger.

paulmmv
01-23-2005, 09:48 PM
good now vitali can finaly beat lewis all the way to next week

kadyo
01-23-2005, 09:57 PM
http://www.boxing-central.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5668

Site and date yet to be confirmed...
21 million sterling is too good to be true and if something is too good to be true then it probably is.
I will rejoice after the signing of contracts.

Truth
01-23-2005, 09:59 PM
Lennox is not coming back check my thread

PBDS
01-23-2005, 10:16 PM
If this is true, then:

The Brit is Back. Watch out America.


....If it is true then the "Brit" will be on his back.

Pno
01-24-2005, 12:53 AM
hey, did you all hear!?!?!?!

the fight's BACK ON AGAIN!!!

:p ;)

LOL

Bryght
09-14-2009, 07:12 PM
I always win.

Pullcounter
09-14-2009, 07:45 PM
thats £21 as stated which rounds out to be around $40 million U.S. Dollars, This is the biggest heavyweight fight to be made right now. But I dont think anyone would pony up that kind of dough for it though.
***** i don't blame him for not turning down $40 million. he could show up and get KOed in the 1st round... he'd still be getting paid.

Jim Jeffries
09-14-2009, 07:49 PM
***** i don't blame him for not turning down $40 million. he could show up and get KOed in the 1st round... he'd still be getting paid.

You do realize this thread is almost 5 years old?

Pullcounter
09-14-2009, 07:51 PM
You do realize this thread is almost 5 years old?
omfg... who bumped this ****!!!! lol

Danny Gunz
09-14-2009, 08:03 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/4199637.stm

From the BBC

Advisors quiet over Lewis return

Lewis lost only two of 44 contests
Lennox Lewis' business advisor has refused to confirm reports Britain's former world heavyweight champion is set for a comeback "later this year".
Lewis told the Sunday Mirror: "The money is up to £21m and I simply can't turn that much cash down."

But Jerome Anderson would not comment on the story to BBC Radio Five Live.

Lewis, 39, retired last January but current heavyweight king Vitali Klitschko is keen to avenge his controversial loss to Lewis in 2003.

Lewis hinted at a return last month after Danny Williams' crushing defeat at the hands of Klitschko.

And the Sunday Mirror quoted Lewis as saying: "I'm going to start training seriously and I'm going back to England to start sorting this out.

"I need the money just like everyone else and it's just too good to be turned down."

Klitschko, the WBC champion, has repeatedly called on Lewis to fight him again since losing a bad-tempered brawl in Los Angeles.

The Ukrainian was well ahead on points before his challenge was ended by cuts.

Klitschko claims the former two-time world champion promised him a rematch after that fight.

Everyone else hasnt made millions for ten years, im sick of these dumbass celebrities and sports players somehow going broke

mellow_mood
09-14-2009, 08:37 PM
You do realize this thread is almost 5 years old?

omfg... who bumped this ****!!!! lol

lmaooo!!! :rofl: :rofl:

Piggu
09-14-2009, 08:47 PM
hahahahahahahaha

bojangles1987
09-14-2009, 08:49 PM
Ah crap, come on Lennox. Why don't any of these boxers have any money sense? He is going to get murdered if he comes back and fights Vitali now.

Oops, fell for it.