First off i'd like to say thank you for any advice I may get.

Well, I've wanted to box since I was 8, my mom was strictly against it, 18 now, and Im starting to box. Got a trainer lined up and everything, and I can't wait, Im dedicated to it 110%.

I recently signed up for a gym for 4 months(weight lifting not boxing) and after a few people telling me Weightlifting and boxing don't mix, i feel like I wasted $140, which brings me to my first question, Is their any weight program that wont make me gain weight(actually i want to lose, but that will be brought up later),keep or raise my speed, and add strength? or is what im hearing wrong?

If i were to have a weakness, it would be one thing, Beer. I love beer, not so much i love to get drunk(i enjoy it, somtimes) but i just love beer.I'd no problem laying off the stuff during training and what not, but since this past summer, I gained a lot of beer weight, going into the summer i was 5'8 135lb, I now way, 170, don't be too shocked, not ALL of that is fat, but I would say too much of it is, does anyone forsee this to be a huge problem? and can anyone recommend an additional running program to lose the weight, even If I can get back down to 140, 145, that would be awsome, my reach is 70" so i have a slightly longer reach than most at my height.

Thanks for all the advice and opinions in advance.

C MaRT

First off i'd like to say thank you for any advice I may get.

Well, I've wanted to box since I was 8, my mom was strictly against it, 18 now, and Im starting to box. Got a trainer lined up and everything, and I can't wait, Im dedicated to it 110%.

I recently signed up for a gym for 4 months(weight lifting not boxing) and after a few people telling me Weightlifting and boxing don't mix, i feel like I wasted $140, which brings me to my first question, Is their any weight program that wont make me gain weight(actually i want to lose, but that will be brought up later),keep or raise my speed, and add strength? or is what im hearing wrong?

If i were to have a weakness, it would be one thing, Beer. I love beer, not so much i love to get drunk(i enjoy it, somtimes) but i just love beer.I'd no problem laying off the stuff during training and what not, but since this past summer, I gained a lot of beer weight, going into the summer i was 5'8 135lb, I now way, 170, don't be too shocked, not ALL of that is fat, but I would say too much of it is, does anyone forsee this to be a huge problem? and can anyone recommend an additional running program to lose the weight, even If I can get back down to 140, 145, that would be awsome, my reach is 70" so i have a slightly longer reach than most at my height.

Thanks for all the advice and opinions in advance.

C MaRT
Hey hows it goin. If you would like to weight train to keep up your strength and power but not gain weight as u box. Just do both its that simple. To not gain weight, get the power and strength from weight training and then nuetralize it with endurance activities. (Hitting the speed bag and heavy bags, running, jumping rope, etc.) You wont gain noticable weight while keeping the power and strength u are gaining. Just remember that roadwork is essential for boxing. Good luck

Heres a work-out

Medicine Ball Warm-Up
Shoulder/Core Prep
Hold a 10-lb ball with both hands, arms extended in front of you, and move it in 10 large clockwise circles. Then move it in 10 counterclockwise circles. Raise the ball above your head and repeat.
Medicine Ball Squat
Hold the ball behind your head with both hands and squat. Two sets of 20
Medicine Ball Calf Raise
Hold the ball behind your head and go up on tiptoe. Two sets of 20

Crisscross
Lie on your back with hands clasped behind your head. Lift your legs so your thighs are perpendicular to the floor and your knees make a right angle. From this starting position bring your right knee toward your chest and extend left leg until it's straight, with the foot about a foot off the floor. At the same time raise your shoulders and rotate so that your left elbow almost touches your right knee. Return to starting position. Repeat with opposite knee/elbow. 15 each side

Speed And Endurance
Treadmill Run
Begin with a one-minute jog at zero incline. Then do the following sprints, slashing the speed between sprints for 30-40 seconds to catch your breath.
12.8 kmph at 5% incline Two 30-second sprints
13.6 kmph at 7.5% Two 30-second sprints
14.4 kmph at 10% Two 30-second sprints
15.2 kmph at 11.5% Two 20-second sprints
16 kmph at 13% Two 20-second sprints
16.8 kmph at 15% Two 15-second sprints

Rubber Ball Hand-Speed Drill
Stand in the middle of a large, open room. Bounce a small superball on the floor and catch it on the first bounce. Repeat, but bounce it a little farther away or a little softer, so you have to move even quicker to catch it. Keep varying bounces. Five minutes

Speed Jump Rope
Go for maximum foot speed. Three three-minute rounds with one minute rest between each.

ShadowBoxing & Heavy Bag Work
Keep your hands and feet moving constantly. Three two-minute rounds with one minute rest between each. Alternate between the two on different workouts.

This is my ab workout. It is a bitch. It does burn like hell. But it works. Well.

Do your stretching or whatever you do, then...

*Tip: When doing this, clench your fists as tight as you can. Doing this, for whatever reason, allows you to contract your abs tighter and harder.

-30 Crunches (2.5 seconds up, 2.5 seconds down; Go slow, and feel the burn go deeper)
-30 Reverse Crunches (Again, slow. Very slow. Do the regular crunches first, so you tire your upper abs out some, making your lower abs work harder on these)
-30 Crunces to each side, touching your elbow to the opposite knee (SLOW)
-30 Side Bends (Squeeze your abs when doing these, and remember: SLOW)

Do this 2-4 times, whichever you choose.

After that, grab a medicine ball.

Lie down, with your shoulders and head slightly off the ground, and with your feet off the ground, too. Grasping a medicine ball, touch it on each side, beside you. Try to go fast, exploding, but also under control. Do it until you can't do anymore.

Then, stand up, and grasp the ball. Do trunk twists, again, explosively, but also under strict control. Do them, again, until you can't do them anymore.

Do this 2-4 times, whatever feels comfortable.

Now, put the ball down, and grab a plate. 25-45 lbs., whatever you want. Get on an incline bench.

Do reps of slow, slow, slow crunches, holding at the top, squeezing your abs. Do them until you feel like you're going to throw-up.

Do this 2-3 times.

Finally...grab the medicine ball again. Lie down, hold it up, over your stomach, and drop it. Squeeze your abs, and breathe out as the ball hits your stomach. Use the heaviest you can deal with.

Do it until...you want to stop, really. Don't count the reps, just do it.

---

There you go. This trains everything. Explosiveness, strength, endurance, and punch-resistance. And you don't need any fancy equipment. Just a medicine ball, weight, and incline to do some crunches on. You can mix in some bicycle crunches, 6-inches, Supermans, whatever. Be sure to mix it up every now and then. Add some other core exercises. Try them on a body ball.

First off i'd like to say thank you for any advice I may get.

Well, I've wanted to box since I was 8, my mom was strictly against it, 18 now, and Im starting to box. Got a trainer lined up and everything, and I can't wait, Im dedicated to it 110%.

I recently signed up for a gym for 4 months(weight lifting not boxing) and after a few people telling me Weightlifting and boxing don't mix, i feel like I wasted $140, which brings me to my first question, Is their any weight program that wont make me gain weight(actually i want to lose, but that will be brought up later),keep or raise my speed, and add strength? or is what im hearing wrong?

If i were to have a weakness, it would be one thing, Beer. I love beer, not so much i love to get drunk(i enjoy it, somtimes) but i just love beer.I'd no problem laying off the stuff during training and what not, but since this past summer, I gained a lot of beer weight, going into the summer i was 5'8 135lb, I now way, 170, don't be too shocked, not ALL of that is fat, but I would say too much of it is, does anyone forsee this to be a huge problem? and can anyone recommend an additional running program to lose the weight, even If I can get back down to 140, 145, that would be awsome, my reach is 70" so i have a slightly longer reach than most at my height.

Thanks for all the advice and opinions in advance.

C MaRT
start with a small run like 1.4 miles in the morning or at night. it may sound like alot if you're out of shape but just remember to pace yourself and youll be fine. dont have a shufflin ass jog though. go at a decent pace, if u feel yourself getting exhausted slow it up a notch until you regain your composure.

the main reason beer puts weight on you is that it eats up the vitamins in your system, some of which are used to burn fat. if you drink 2-3-4 beers, (thats the most ill drink) take a multivitamin with your post-drink meal. it will lessen the weight gain from beer.

also...i just realized you have a pretty good reach, so I hope you're developing a crisp, solid jab. with that kind of reach your jab should double as a rangefinder and a power punch if need be.

also...i just realized you have a pretty good reach, so I hope you're developing a crisp, solid jab. with that kind of reach your jab should double as a rangefinder and a power punch if need be.


yeah the jab is one of my favorites to throw and work on, i've been told i have a nice quick snap on it, plus i've always admired jabbers in the ring, such as winky wright.


thanks for the advice everyone

Since your a Noob I just started myself about 8wks ago, lesson's learned that payed off..
1.Be persistant even if your feeling lazy go train..
2.Start with light weigths for everything upperbody around 10-20lbs max.. do high reps for atleast 6wks.
3.Train cardio twice a week with sufficient rest and always push yourself hharder each time you go..
4.Your not gonna be Tyson right off tha bat, if your tired after a mile than take a rest, find your pace at the beginning..

I've been training for about 8wks as said this is what i started at.. My 2 biggest improvements.
1.Jogging-Focused on a mile at first didnt' run the whole thing walked as weell, but never stopped.. Just found different paces.
2.Bench was like 120lbs at 15reps 3sets. then 140lbs @10reps 3sets
Now.
1.Jogging-1.5miles in 30mins all on incline only walking for 1-2min at a time but always moving.
2.Bench-can't put anymore weight on my bar, have the plastic weights i'm at 190LBS 6reps and 3sets..
I have this work out DVD that i've been doing as well. The improvement is in the weights and I can already see physical results..

Persistance and patience are KEY...Results don't happen in 1 session.

Heres a work-out.......



Thanks for sharing Piston! :boxing:

Its cool...

There's a retired pro here named Rafa. Won 37 fights. Started out at 118 (He's only about 5' tall). Started drinking and finished his career at 147 (Still only 5' tall). The beer has a lot of calories and may also impair your desire to work out (or maybe not). Bottom line again: Eat less calories than you burn until you make your weight. You're going to have to watch your diet unless you can put in 10 miles a day of roadwork, which is too much. Jake LaMotta said, as he got older, fighting was not the hard part. Making the weight was the killer...