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PRboxingfan 01-23-2005, 11:30 AM Well, I was the first to say that I thought it would be a much closer fight; I was wrong. I never doubted Floyd's abilities and (mad) skills but I really thought Bruseles would be a better match.
Floyd never ceases to amaze me with his defense and accuracy. Can't wait to see him blow Gatti out of the water.
IwatchBoxing 01-23-2005, 11:36 AM Bruseles did good, lasting 8 rounds, against pound 4 pound
#2, being unknown.
Well, I was the first to say that I thought it would be a much closer fight; I was wrong. I never doubted Floyd's abilities and (mad) skills but I really thought Bruseles would be a better match.
Floyd never ceases to amaze me with his defense and accuracy. Can't wait to see him blow Gatti out of the water.
Its all good man, theres nothing wrong in rooting for the underdog but I did tell all of you to stop questioning Floyd's chin and defense while fighting offensivley. I told you that it was because Chop was a lefty who caught him while he was swinging and caught him again when he had a perfect D. No right hand fighter including Zoo or Cotto would catch him with those punches and if they did it wouldnt hurt as much because he would see it coming and expect it. I also told you guys that he is a more offensive fighter now and that he would sitdown and trade with this kid and I told you that it wont effect his defense. Chop was just a lefty and might give Cotto problems because of it
Last night Floyd fought as well as a fighter can possibly fight...I don't know if he took a real solid shot all night...his reflexes are something that I have never seen before, not even from Roy Jones in his prime.
Cotto and Zoo (V. HArris = the wildcard) are the only too guys that have a shot against him...their strength will pose problems for PBF just like JL Castillo's strength did...still beating him is going to be one tough thing to do, man what a performance last night!
Bryght 01-23-2005, 01:07 PM Bruseles did good, lasting 8 rounds, against pound 4 pound
#2, being unknown.
He lasted that long because Pretty Boy allowed it to happen. Don't think for a second that Floyd couldn't have blown out this underclassed punching bag in three or less rounds. Ever the showman, Floyd played with his prey like the clever cat that he is until he grew bored and then went in for the kill. It was predictable and systematic.
Floydmayweather 01-23-2005, 01:46 PM Floyds defense is ridulous he played with this kid than finished him when he got bored.
abdiel2k3 01-23-2005, 01:49 PM brussels just seemd to have a case of stage fright
or maybe it was becuz the fighter standing across the ring was PBF
either way
floyd had an easy nite
but at least hes being more aggressive now
my bro was askin me why i think that
becuz it doesnt really make sense to move up in weight and then be willing to trade more and run less
i think he may feel more comfortable at this weight
so he feels a lot more at easy when it comes time to take a punch
IwatchBoxing 01-23-2005, 02:19 PM He lasted that long because Pretty Boy allowed it to happen. Don't think for a second that Floyd couldn't have blown out this underclassed punching bag in three or less rounds. Ever the showman, Floyd played with his prey like the clever cat that he is until he grew bored and then went in for the kill. It was predictable and systematic.Yeah, too bad he wasnt, and the fight lasted to the 8th round :rolleyes: .
The Fix 01-23-2005, 02:20 PM pbf is an amazing fighter and after watching his fight last night i think he has surpassed b-hop for the p4p # 1 spot.
btw i bet that he is on the cover of the next years fight night(b-hop is this years)
Sister Sledge 01-23-2005, 06:38 PM floyd is the best fighter today period. Until someone can give him a good fight(let alone beat him) he's the best P4P.
The Fix 01-23-2005, 06:40 PM floyd is the best fighter today period. Until someone can give him a good fight(let alone beat him) he's the best P4P.
i can see kosta giving him some problems. he would be in a lot of trouble if he were to move up in weight again though
MlLkMan 01-23-2005, 06:41 PM Bruseles did good, lasting 8 rounds, against pound 4 pound
#2, being unknown.
He just needed power.
jack_the_rippuh 01-23-2005, 06:52 PM Well, I was the first to say that I thought it would be a much closer fight; I was wrong. I never doubted Floyd's abilities and (mad) skills but I really thought Bruseles would be a better match.
Floyd never ceases to amaze me with his defense and accuracy. Can't wait to see him blow Gatti out of the water.
He'll kick Cotto's ass too.
Cotto's father got to see first hand what kind of trouble his son would be in if he stepped into the ring with a monster like Mayweather..
IwatchBoxing 01-23-2005, 06:56 PM He'll kick Cotto's ass too.
Cotto's father got to see first hand what kind of trouble his son would be in if he stepped into the ring with a monster like Mayweather..Mayweather is too weak, he wont beable to handle, Cottos slective shots.
jack_the_rippuh 01-23-2005, 07:01 PM Mayweather is too weak, he wont beable to handle, Cottos slective shots.
Should the fight ever happen and Mayweather beats him, What is the excuse Cotto fans will have ready?
"Cotto's mind wasn't on the fight.."
"Cotto wanted to lift Bruseles' spirits by saying, 'you're not the only one.."
"Mayweather cheated, he's too fast."
"Cotto wins a rematch by knockout, next time he won't go in their head-hunting and looking for the KO."
IwatchBoxing 01-23-2005, 07:03 PM Should the fight ever happen and Mayweather beats him, What is the excuse Cotto fans will have ready?
"Cotto's mind wasn't on the fight.."
"Cotto wanted to lift Bruseles' spirits by saying, 'you're not the only one.."
"Mayweather cheated, he's too fast."
"Cotto wins a rematch by knockout, next time he won't go in their head-hunting and looking for the KO."What will your excuse be? You should worry about the fighters, and forget the "fans".
Mayweather is too weak, he wont beable to handle, Cottos slective shots.The problem is he's(Cotto) not gonna have anything to select from those openings of Mayweather ' cause they 're gonna close up on him real quick and by that time Cotto will have to duck from another missile, launched off Guantanamo Bay by " Ugly Boy " Floyd.
IwatchBoxing 01-23-2005, 07:18 PM The problem is he's(Cotto) not gonna have anything to select from those openings of Mayweather ' cause they 're gonna close up on him real quick and by that time Cotto will have to duck from another missile, launched off Guantanamo Bay by " Ugly Boy " Floyd.Floyd has no power, he wont beable to bomb Cotto, cause he will go through whatever Floyd throws at him, with a counter, like he did with Pinto. I can see Floyd outboxing Cotto, for awhile, but it will end, KO victory for Cotto.
MetalVomit 01-23-2005, 07:53 PM Bruseles did good, lasting 8 rounds, against pound 4 pound
#2, being unknown.
I wouldnt say he did good. I'd say he survived for a while
MetalVomit 01-23-2005, 07:56 PM Mayweather is too weak, he wont beable to handle, Cottos slective shots.
Everyone thinks Cotto is too young for a match like this. But Mayweather's best weight is 130. Cotto will be too big, much like B-Hopkins was too big for Oscar. Cotto will take what Floyd's got and he has a very good chance to beat Pretty Boy. I'd say Mayweather would certainly lose to Mosely, De La Hoya and Tszyu. They are all too big for him, and he doesnt hit hard enough to stop any of them. Against Cotto, I don't know, but I give Cotto a very good chance at beating Mayweather.
Floydmayweather 01-23-2005, 07:57 PM Floyd does not have one punch Ko power but he puts his punches together and hurts his oppenent late. Cotto is green still he has a long ways to go before fighting PBF. Floyd would give him a boxing lesson and would make him chase him for 12 rounds.
Everyone thinks Cotto is too young for a match like this. But Mayweather's best weight is 130. Cotto will be too big, much like B-Hopkins was too big for Oscar. Cotto will take what Floyd's got and he has a very good chance to beat Pretty Boy. I'd say Mayweather would certainly lose to Mosely, De La Hoya and Tszyu. They are all too big for him, and he doesnt hit hard enough to stop any of them. Against Cotto, I don't know, but I give Cotto a very good chance at beating Mayweather.
I be peepin the **** that you say and you be fakin. You try to act like you like Floyd and he's your boy but then you say that everyone would kick his ass, so why dont you just stop fakin and admit that you dont like him
MetalVomit 01-23-2005, 11:23 PM I be peepin the **** that you say and you be fakin. You try to act like you like Floyd and he's your boy but then you say that everyone would kick his ass, so why dont you just stop fakin and admit that you dont like him
I be fakin? LOL. I have always said that I admire Floyd's skills, but not the way he acts. You know, talking about himself in the third person, oh, and HITTING WOMEN. Also the fact that he always says he wants the top guys, then he fights N'dou, he KO's N'dou and says he wants the top guys. Then he fights Corley, he KO's Corley and calls out the top guys again. Then he fights a top guy. OH WAIT, no, then he fights Brusseles (?!!?). I dont hate him, but I dont like him either. I'm undecided I guess. So relax. And there is no way that Floyd will beat Oscar, Shane or KT. Even if I was a fan I would still stand by that. I'm a fan of Oscar and I knew he couldnt beat Hopkins. And I never said that everyone could beat him. KT is about his size and is too patient and powerful. Shane and Oscar are naturally too big for him. I'm just realistic. I dont blindly follow a fighter like certain (Tito & Pacman) fans do. I "be fakin". Word Yo.
Floydmayweather 01-23-2005, 11:30 PM Floyd can beat Zoo but probably not DLH.
I be fakin? LOL. I have always said that I admire Floyd's skills, but not the way he acts. You know, talking about himself in the third person, oh, and HITTING WOMEN. Also the fact that he always says he wants the top guys, then he fights N'dou, he KO's N'dou and says he wants the top guys. Then he fights Corley, he KO's Corley and calls out the top guys again. Then he fights a top guy. OH WAIT, no, then he fights Brusseles (?!!?). I dont hate him, but I dont like him either. I'm undecided I guess. So relax. And there is no way that Floyd will beat Oscar, Shane or KT. Even if I was a fan I would still stand by that. I'm a fan of Oscar and I knew he couldnt beat Hopkins. I'm just realistic. I dont blindly follow a fighter like certain (Tito & Pacman) fans do. I "be fakin". Word Yo.
Well you need to look at the thread "Floyds resume vs Zoo's resume" and you tell me who's fought the better people and Zoo has never moved up in weight. And dont try to say that your just talking about Floyds last 2 fights because you sound like a hypocrite saying that "Floyd says he's the best but he doesnt fight anyone". I guess that means that Zoo is the worst because Floyd has a better resume and has did more in much less time
MetalVomit 01-23-2005, 11:38 PM Well you need to look at the thread "Floyds resume vs Zoo's resume" and you tell me who's fought the better people and Zoo has never moved up in weight. And dont try to say that your just talking about Floyds last 2 fights because you sound like a hypocrite saying that "Floyd says he's the best but he doesnt fight anyone". I guess that means that Zoo is the worst because Floyd has a better resume and has did more in much less time
Floyd may have a better resume. A while back I asked for someone to help clear that up. The way KT cuts off the ring, and the way he is so accurate with his devestating power, I think he will be Floyd. And like I said, whether they are or arent more talented, Shane and Oscar are just plain too big. Floyd has been saying he's the best but he ISNT fighting anyone. I didnt say he never did. The bottom line is that if you are going to talk about yourself in the third person and say your the best, you go out and ****ING FIGHT THE BEST, not 3 ****ing bums in a row. Yes N'dou is an average fighter. Yes Corely is an average fighter(and he wears women's underwear). And Brusseles is an average fighter. You cant claim to be the best and then fight MUCH, MUCH LESSER fighters.
Floydmayweather 01-23-2005, 11:44 PM Chop Chop is not average but Floyd does need to step up at 140 and fight the best now. Which he will do this year. :D
MetalVomit 01-23-2005, 11:45 PM Chop Chop is not average but Floyd does need to step up at 140 and fight the best now. Which he will do this year. :D
Chop Chop is most certainly average. The only things not average about him is his penciled in eyebrows and women's underwear.
Floyd may have a better resume. A while back I asked for someone to help clear that up. The way KT cuts off the ring, and the way he is so accurate with his devestating power, I think he will be Floyd. And like I said, whether they are or arent more talented, Shane and Oscar are just plain too big. Floyd has been saying he's the best but he ISNT fighting anyone. I didnt say he never did. The bottom line is that if you are going to talk about yourself in the third person and say your the best, you go out and ****ING FIGHT THE BEST, not 3 ****ing bums in a row. Yes N'dou is an average fighter. Yes Corely is an average fighter(and he wears women's underwear). And Brusseles is an average fighter. You cant claim to be the best and then fight MUCH, MUCH LESSER fighters.
I already asked you who else could he fight? Hatton and Gatti turned him down. Theres not enough money in a Zoo fight right now for the networks to team up. Maybe after Zoo fights Hatton and Floyd fights Gatti. Arum's not going to put Cotto in with him yet. The only one he couldve fought was Harris and if he did that then he loses his #1 ranking in the WBC for the big money PPV Gatti fight and you know that Gatti isnt going to fight him if he doesnt have to. He already tried to fight Oscar. He was going to jump straight from 135 to 154 to fight Oscar but DLH said he wont fight Floyd because of his father. Im not saying that Oscar is scared of him because he's not but Floyd was going to fight him so stop trying to act like he hasnt been trying to get the big fights
Floydmayweather 01-23-2005, 11:48 PM Well i disagree but thats pretty funny.
Chop Chop is most certainly average. The only things not average about him is his penciled in eyebrows and women's underwear.
Ive talked to Chop before and he's a good guy. His only 2 recent losses were to Zab and Floyd. You tell me how many people wouldve beaten them. He will give Cotto a hell of a fight
MetalVomit 01-23-2005, 11:51 PM Ive talked to Chop before and he's a good guy. His only 2 recent losses were to Zab and Floyd. You tell me how many people wouldve beaten them. He will give Cotto a hell of a fight
He'll give Cotto a hard time for about a round or 2. I'm sure he is a nice guy. Taking care of all them kids and whatnot. That doesnt make him a good fighter. No disrespect. He's a trialhorse. No more.
He'll give Cotto a hard time for about a round or 2. I'm sure he is a nice guy. Taking care of all them kids and whatnot. That doesnt make him a good fighter. No disrespect. He's a trialhorse. No more.
How can you say that? because he lost to Zab and Floyd? The guy was the champ and a top 5 guy. He has sparred with Joppy, Mayorga, and Zoo. Cotto will not hurt him. He is much better then you think and would beat Gatti and Hatton. and he would be 50/50 with Harris and Cotto. as a matter of fact, he would beat Harris
He'll give Cotto a hard time for about a round or 2. I'm sure he is a nice guy. Taking care of all them kids and whatnot. That doesnt make him a good fighter. No disrespect. He's a trialhorse. No more.
Hey, did you read post #29
MetalVomit 01-24-2005, 12:03 AM How can you say that? because he lost to Zab and Floyd? The guy was the champ and a top 5 guy. He has sparred with Joppy, Mayorga, and Zoo. Cotto will not hurt him. He is much better then you think and would beat Gatti and Hatton. and he would be 50/50 with Harris and Cotto. as a matter of fact, he would beat Harris
I tried to post the exact link, but it wouldnt work. Go to www.boxrec.com and look at his record
This explains why he is a trialhorse. Look at his record. If he fights a good (Judah) or great (PBF) fighter, he wont win. I've seen him fight 4 times. And he is simply not good. No way he beats Gatti. I HATE Hatton and he can't beat Hatton. Harris will plain and simple **** Corely up. Cotto by TKO 9.
MetalVomit 01-24-2005, 12:04 AM Hey, did you read post #29
I dont know. Which one is it?
I tried to post the exact link, but it wouldnt work. Go to www.boxrec.com and look at his record
This explains why he is a trialhorse. Look at his record. If he fights a good (Judah) or great (PBF) fighter, he wont win. I've seen him fight 4 times. And he is simply not good. No way he beats Gatti. I HATE Hatton and he can't beat Hatton. Harris will plain and simple **** Corely up. Cotto by TKO 10.
Thats stupid. Like I said, how many fighters wouldve beaten those 2. Theres no shame in losing to them. You talk like there scrubs or something
I dont know. Which one is it?
Dont you see the numbers on the top of each post?
MetalVomit 01-24-2005, 12:07 AM Thats stupid. Like I said, how many fighters wouldve beaten those 2. Theres no shame in losing to them. You talk like there scrubs or something
If i thought they were scrubs i wouldnt call them good and great. When he steps up, he loses. It's a fact. It's what seperates him from being a good fighter. It's not my opinion. It's facts.
MetalVomit 01-24-2005, 12:10 AM Dont you see the numbers on the top of each post?
OK, gotcha. So your telling me for the past few years it's his promoter and the networks fault he has been fighting average fighters? I really dont feel like arguing about this anymore, both of us made our points and shared our opinions. Agree to disagree
If i thought they were scrubs i wouldnt call them good and great. When he steps up, he loses. It's a fact. It's what seperates him from being a good fighter. It's not my opinion. It's facts.
How does that seperate him from being a good fighter if he lost to a good and great fighter. If 2 people fight someone has to win dont they. If a good guy fights another good guy and loses, that means he's not good? If a good guy fights a great guy and loses, that means he's not good?
MetalVomit 01-24-2005, 12:14 AM How does that seperate him from being a good fighter if he lost to a good and great fighter. If 2 people fight someone has to win dont they.
I'm saying when he has stepped up he has lost. That's what seperates an average fighter from a good fighter. Not to mention when he did step up and lose to those two guys, he certainly didnt do anything to suggest he even belonged in the same ring as judah and floyd. Like i said i've seen him fight more than a couple times and he is average. He has beaten Mostly guys with horrible records, and when he has stepped up he has lost. It's just a fact man.
I'm saying when he has stepped up he has lost. That's what seperates an average fighter from a good fighter. Not to mention when he did step up and lose to those two guys, he certainly didnt do anything to suggest he even belonged in the same ring as judah and floyd. Like i said i've seen him fight more than a couple times and he is average. He has beaten Mostly guys with horrible records, and when he has stepped up he has lost. It's just a fact man.
Who has Judah and Gatti beat?
MetalVomit 01-24-2005, 12:25 AM Who has Judah and Gatti beat?
do we really need to keep on going? I could just say who has Corely beat? If you honestly think that Corely is as good as Judah (who is very talented but unfocused) and Gatti (who is above average and better than decent, although not that great) then we are done arguing. Because that is nonsense. Plain and simple. I'm done.
davico 01-24-2005, 12:38 AM pbf is an amazing fighter and after watching his fight last night i think he has surpassed b-hop for the p4p # 1 spot.
btw i bet that he is on the cover of the next years fight night(b-hop is this years)
So now beating journeyman and unknowns get's you the 1# spot on the pound for pound list. Wait why don't we give Johnson the No 1 spot because he beat Tarver and Tarver said he was the best. Better yet why don't we give it to Joe Calzaghe he has a record of 38-0 and is the WBO Supermiddle champ!
Give me a break. At least Hopkins fights half decent fighters instead of punching bags.
do we really need to keep on going? I could just say who has Corely beat? If you honestly think that Corely is as good as Judah (who is very talented but unfocused) and Gatti (who is above average and better than decent, although not that great) then we are done arguing. Because that is nonsense. Plain and simple. I'm done.
Im not going to respond anymore because Im tired of arguing about it but your still not getting my point. You said before that Corley hasnt beaten anyone so thats why he's not good. Thats why I responded with, Judah and Gatti have lost everytime they stepped up so why do you cosider them good
So now beating journeyman and unknowns get's you the 1# spot on the pound for pound list. Wait why don't we give Johnson the No 1 spot because he beat Tarver and Tarver said he was the best. Better yet why don't we give it to Joe Calzaghe he has a record of 38-0 and is the WBO Supermiddle champ!
Give me a break. At least Hopkins fights half decent fighters instead of punching bags.
Who's your top 5 P4P
davico 01-24-2005, 12:59 AM 1. Hopkins
2. Tszyu
3. PBF
4. Pacquiao
5. Wright
1. Hopkins
2. Tszyu
3. PBF
4. Pacquiao
5. Wright
How can Zoo be over Floyd when Mayweather has the better resume and has fought in 4 different weight classes and did all this while being much younger
miron_lang 01-24-2005, 01:14 AM I lost 10M :mad: i bet on PBF by UD. :(
1. Hopkins
2. Tszyu
3. PBF
4. Pacquiao
5. Wright
this is a good list, but if pac beat EM,
1. Hopkins
2. Pacquiao
3. PBF
4. Tzyu
5. Wright
this is a good list, but if pac beat EM,
1. Hopkins
2. Pacquiao
3. PBF
4. Tzyu
5. Wright
Pac cant jump over Floyd just because he beat Morales who was coming off a loss hiw ownself and he didnt beat Marquez. He also has losses and by KO too so how can he jump over a undefeated guy who has been a champ for 7 years
wmute 01-24-2005, 01:51 AM So now beating journeyman and unknowns get's you the 1# spot on the pound for pound list.
apparently it gets you there
hopkins is #1
and jones was #1 before him
and they have been fighting nobodies for ages...
oh wait hopkins fought Tito and De La Hoya... this is called taking on the best... yes the best junior welters-welters
I think hopkins is one of the few fighters who foughtr a 130titlist champ and a HWtitlist (hoya and jones)
pbf is apparently closer to the p4p top in the mind of the public now that he fights lesser fighters than when he cleaned up 130, looking incredibly good in the process
go figure
apparently it gets you there
hopkins is #1
and jones was #1 before him
and they have been fighting nobodies for ages...
oh wait hopkins fought Tito and De La Hoya... this is called taking on the best... yes the best junior welters-welters
I think hopkins is one of the few fighters who foughtr a 130titlist champ and a HWtitlist (hoya and jones)
pbf is apparently closer to the p4p top in the mind of the public now that he fights lesser fighters than when he cleaned up 130, looking incredibly good in the process
go figureThats not true. He was always on the list but he had already established fighters infront of him but one by one they have lost.
SweetScience 01-24-2005, 06:13 AM Guys, are ranking what Floyd has done lately and I mean some big fights. Kind of like RJJ, around 2001 when he did some work awhile back. I had Trinind P4P #1 during the time, Tito beat DLH, Reid, Vargas and Joppy. The guy moved up in weight and fought dangerous fighters. RJJ, has a better career then Tito but what did RJJ prove during that time?
You see where I'm coming from?
PRboxingfan 01-24-2005, 10:26 AM He'll kick Cotto's ass too.
Cotto's father got to see first hand what kind of trouble his son would be in if he stepped into the ring with a monster like Mayweather..
Quit showing your ignorance. Evangelista Cotto is Miguel's uncle, not father.
Also, I don't think Cotto would beat Floyd right now but if he gets 3-4 more fights under his belt (which he will since Floyd isn't interrested in fighting him right now) then I give him more than a good chance at beating Floyd.
Clay AikSkins 01-24-2005, 10:48 AM Quit showing your ignorance. Evangelista Cotto is Miguel's uncle, not father.
Also, I don't think Cotto would beat Floyd right now but if he gets 3-4 more fights under his belt (which he will since Floyd isn't interrested in fighting him right now) then I give him more than a good chance at beating Floyd.
If Cotto actually would weigh in at 140 and not 155...he can never beat PBF
theironone 01-24-2005, 11:02 AM He does weigh in at 140, PBF is just a naturally smaller man this will be his highest, maybe 147 at a push, but Cotto will probably end up at 154 - coming in around 162, nothing wrong with that it's how the game works
jack_the_rippuh 01-24-2005, 11:05 AM Quit showing your ignorance. Evangelista Cotto is Miguel's uncle, not father.
Also, I don't think Cotto would beat Floyd right now but if he gets 3-4 more fights under his belt (which he will since Floyd isn't interrested in fighting him right now) then I give him more than a good chance at beating Floyd.
My bad, I seriously thought that was his father..
PRboxingfan 01-24-2005, 12:04 PM He does weigh in at 140, PBF is just a naturally smaller man this will be his highest, maybe 147 at a push, but Cotto will probably end up at 154 - coming in around 162, nothing wrong with that it's how the game works
Exactly! That is the game. Every fighter (except for maybe HWs) gains weight after the weigh in and before the fight. Floyd is fighting closer to his natural weight, Miguel is making the weight.
Also, don't think that the extra weight is an automatic advantage. Look at how much slower Morales was against MAB just because he came in so heavy.
Clay AikSkins 01-24-2005, 12:52 PM If you are gonna be 15 pounds over the limit then move up....the weighin should be on the day of the fight.
PRboxingfan 01-24-2005, 12:55 PM If you are gonna be 15 pounds over the limit then move up....the weighin should be on the day of the fight.
Well, that is your opinion. I agree with you but it is the fighter's prerogative on how much weight he thinks he can safely lose and still be competitive the next day.
rapidrio 01-24-2005, 12:59 PM If you are gonna be 15 pounds over the limit then move up....the weighin should be on the day of the fight.
I think there would be too many fights canceled if they weigh in the day of the fight. Dont you think?
Clay AikSkins 01-24-2005, 01:02 PM I hear what you are saying but if you sign to fight at 140 then fight at 140..if not move up....it's not Cotto's fault but the commissions...they need to enforce this.
theironone 01-24-2005, 01:29 PM I hear what you are saying but if you sign to fight at 140 then fight at 140..if not move up....it's not Cotto's fault but the commissions...they need to enforce this.
Your right to say it's the commissions fault, but if cotto can boil down to 140 and put 15lbs on then it's up to him, loads of fights wouldn't happen if fighters fought at their 'natural' weight, if you know what i mean, but maybe some poundage restrictions should come in to play to make it 'fairer'.
Say for example no more than 7lbs over that limit or maybe even only allowing to weigh in with the next weight limit eg fights at 140 fighters aren't allowed to come in more than 146
Clay AikSkins 01-24-2005, 02:05 PM Your right to say it's the commissions fault, but if cotto can boil down to 140 and put 15lbs on then it's up to him, loads of fights wouldn't happen if fighters fought at their 'natural' weight, if you know what i mean, but maybe some poundage restrictions should come in to play to make it 'fairer'.
Say for example no more than 7lbs over that limit or maybe even only allowing to weigh in with the next weight limit eg fights at 140 fighters aren't allowed to come in more than 146
i could live with that look what gatti did to gamache..you can kill someone like that.
theironone 01-24-2005, 02:11 PM I know what you mean that KO was as brutal as hell
Mr. Ryan 01-24-2005, 02:12 PM I had absolutely no expectations of an upset with Bruseles. I was surprised he made it that far.
Dark Destroyer 01-24-2005, 02:34 PM Well, I was the first to say that I thought it would be a much closer fight; I was wrong. I never doubted Floyd's abilities and (mad) skills but I really thought Bruseles would be a better match.
Floyd never ceases to amaze me with his defense and accuracy. Can't wait to see him blow Gatti out of the water.
You made yourself look bad if anyone did. Floyd just did his job.
Floydmayweather 01-24-2005, 02:41 PM Top 5 pound for pound
1. Hopkins
2.PBF
3.Morales
4.Zoo
5.Pac
borikua 01-24-2005, 04:27 PM Great fight by Floyd...
MetalVomit 01-24-2005, 04:50 PM Top 5 pound for pound
1. Hopkins
2.PBF
3.Morales
4.Zoo
5.Pac
How can you possibly have Morales ahead of Barrera after the lesson Marco gave Erik?
Texasboy34 01-24-2005, 04:54 PM Yeah, I remember all the Corrales fans out there trying to tell me how much harder he hits than PBF. Remember guys it don't matter what kind of power you have if you can't hit the mofo. Floyd is too slick, and would TOTALLY outclass Cotto. Word has it Cotto's pops was using Henry as a measuring stick for his son against Floyd. I hope Floyd didn't scare them off! Kostya would be a good fight for Floyd though. I would love to see that. I also believe Kostya would flatten Cotto as well. The kid (Cotto) has good skills, but thats it honestly. Everyone that is comparing him (Cotto) to Tito is in for a rude awakening if he ever decided to fight either one of these guys. Again.. just my opinion. :cool:
MetalVomit 01-24-2005, 04:54 PM Im not going to respond anymore because Im tired of arguing about it but your still not getting my point. You said before that Corley hasnt beaten anyone so thats why he's not good. Thats why I responded with, Judah and Gatti have lost everytime they stepped up so why do you cosider them good
Because of the performances they have given when stepping up. When they have stepped up competition, even in losing they have shown that they could at least hang with the guy they were in with. Chop Chop looks like an ******* when he steps up. He looks like he doesnt deserve to share the ring with the other guy when he steps up in competition. And you'll see Chop Chop get his ass chopped down when he fights Cotto.
borikua 01-24-2005, 05:35 PM Yeah, I remember all the Corrales fans out there trying to tell me how much harder he hits than PBF. Remember guys it don't matter what kind of power you have if you can't hit the mofo. Floyd is too slick, and would TOTALLY outclass Cotto. Word has it Cotto's pops was using Henry as a measuring stick for his son against Floyd. I hope Floyd didn't scare them off! Kostya would be a good fight for Floyd though. I would love to see that. I also believe Kostya would flatten Cotto as well. The kid (Cotto) has good skills, but thats it honestly. Everyone that is comparing him (Cotto) to Tito is in for a rude awakening if he ever decided to fight either one of these guys. Again.. just my opinion. :cool:
Just wanna say that Evangelista Cotto (Cotto and Bruseles trainer) is Cotto's uncle, not his father...
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