View Full Version : Floyd Is A Unbelievable Fighter....Who Can Beat Him?
Truth 01-23-2005, 09:28 AM Last night reminded me how great of a fighter Floyd is. I know he was just fighting Bruseles but still, that was a perfect performance. His defense is incredible he bearly got hit the whole fight, he bearly broke a sweat! I think there no question who the pound 4 pound king is a far as skill and talent. The question is who can beat him from 140-154? You can bearly hit this guy! Would Tyzsu even be able to hit him in the head?
onikami 01-23-2005, 09:30 AM Give Ricky Hatton time and he will show this guy how to really box.
Truth 01-23-2005, 09:33 AM The only person that can beat Mayweather is Mayweather himself in my opinion.
BrooklynBomber 01-23-2005, 09:36 AM Yep he schooled the poor kid ollright but in a world of boxing its not how you beat them, its who you beat.
BrooklynBomber 01-23-2005, 09:38 AM The only person that can beat Mayweather is Mayweather himself in my opinion.
dont listen to Roy Jones, nobody is unbeatable, even Roy Jones.
Any way lets hope PBF does as he promised and will fight Kostya
Truth 01-23-2005, 09:44 AM dont listen to Roy Jones, nobody is unbeatable, even Roy Jones.
Any way lets hope PBF does as he promised and will fight Kostya
I know hes not really unbeatable(no one is)but I would favor him to beat anyone from 140-147.
dont listen to Roy Jones, nobody is unbeatable, even Roy Jones.
Any way lets hope PBF does as he promised and will fight Kostya
ur wrong..some ppl are unbeatable for a while in there carrer
BrooklynBomber 01-23-2005, 09:57 AM You got it all wrong. I did not say Roy Jones was gonna get beat in his prime, I said Roy Jones could get beat in his prime, especially because he did not face a lot of very good fighters when he was fightin in his prime(DM,Benn etc) Same goes to PBF, yes he damn looked good in his fight and yes he sure has mad skills(like we did not know this) but beating some no-hope journey man and beating up Kostya is a huge difference(I beleive Floyd can school Gatti)
for a while but not always, him vs mayorga or him vs DLH will be interesting. did he make a mistake fighting this gy b4 fightin gatti?
Truth 01-23-2005, 10:34 AM for a while but not always, him vs mayorga or him vs DLH will be interesting. did he make a mistake fighting this gy b4 fightin gatti?
I think he would beat De La Hoya at 147 because his superior defense and quickness.
Alibata 01-23-2005, 10:40 AM PBF was amazing. He is the most talented fighter in boxing right now. I wonder how he would fair with a big puncher like KT. This division is full of talent and I wonder how Cotto would handle PBF. Brusseles has Cotto's style but has no where near the type of power or the skills of Cotto. I don't think Floyd can KO cotto but would win by UD> Cotto would need a KO to win. If KT can land a flush power shot PBF is in trouble. But at this moment I do not see anyone beating this dude.
aztec13 01-23-2005, 11:29 AM I think cotto has a very good chance against Mayweather, cotto has power in both hands he has pretty good speed plus he comes in the ring bigger than Mayweather does on fight night. DLH would hurt Mayweather at 147. Yeah Mayweather might be quicker than DLH but DLH is a smarter fighter than PBF and PBF doesn't seem to have as much power at 140 let alone at 147. PBF needs to stay at 140 take on the big names there and leave DLH and Sugar Shane alone.
IwatchBoxing 01-23-2005, 11:45 AM Mayweather is like a bigger Ivan Calderon, they can fade in and out, no sweat, being untouchable, but Bruseles was a poor Cotto.
The real Cotto can take him, I think, in a good fight.
Fareastwarrior 01-23-2005, 11:46 AM It is difficult to say who's gonna beat Floyd Mayweather. There are not really a lot of guys who's so willingly to face him or they just to pretend to face Mayweather. Let's just wait how the other serious contenders will perform this year, like Gatti, Hatton, Tszyu, De la Hoya, Mosley, Cotto.
wmute 01-23-2005, 01:16 PM at 140 zoo and cotto MAY beat him (hatton, harris?)
at 147... most likely anyone right now... he still has to finish growing in 140
JaNnO 01-23-2005, 01:47 PM at 140 zoo and cotto MAY beat him (hatton, harris?)
at 147... most likely anyone right now... he still has to finish growing in 140
i think he will have difficulty winning over Gatti, Tszyu & De la Hoya. He is arguably one of the best gifterd boxers around but he hasn't fought quality guys like these at 140 and 147.
tracylee 01-23-2005, 01:55 PM Last night reminded me how great of a fighter Floyd is. I know he was just fighting Bruseles but still, that was a perfect performance. His defense is incredible he bearly got hit the whole fight, he bearly broke a sweat! I think there no question who the pound 4 pound king is a far as skill and talent. The question is who can beat him from 140-154? You can bearly hit this guy! Would Tyzsu even be able to hit him in the head?
He's awesome, I'll admit that. But, I think it was unprofessional and disrespectful to Bruseles the cute little 'show' he put on when talking to Merchant about todays games, and who he thought would win, etc..It was unprofessional of Merchant to encourage him that way too. Being great is just fine, but rubbing it in by showing your opponet that you dont even take him serious enough to stay focused during the fight is something else. It made me lose some respect for him, and it would have been funny as hell if Bruseles had cold-****ed his ass while he was busy talking to the commentators like that. I would have laughed anyway! I always seem to catch the 'little' things like that, and that one really bugged me!
tracylee 01-23-2005, 01:57 PM Give Ricky Hatton time and he will show this guy how to really box.
Thats the funniest thing I've read so far today!!! Hatton teach Mayweather how to box?? Oookkkkaaaayyyyy :rolleyes:
Tha Greatest 01-23-2005, 01:59 PM mayweather was GREAT last nite
he was just playing with bruseles all night
he was beating him while talkin about football to lampley
mayweather is #1 p4p
tracylee 01-23-2005, 02:05 PM mayweather was GREAT last nite
he was just playing with bruseles all night
he was beating him while talkin about football to lampley
mayweather is #1 p4p
Exactly..that was my point..and I thought it was wrong, and it would have been halarious if he had got caught while doing that. :D and Lampley is supposed to be a professional but he was encouraging him by pressing the matter when he asked him about the Philly-Atlanta game.
QueenCity 01-23-2005, 02:12 PM I hope Mayweather sticks to what he is saying about fighting four time in 2005. With Hopkins not too far away from retirement he needs to have a big year to prove he is truly the undisputed best in the world. I don't see him losing this year becasue there is now way he will get either Tszyu or Cotto & and I think he will destroy Gatti and be too good for Shane Mosley even at 147.
tracylee 01-23-2005, 02:20 PM I hope Mayweather sticks to what he is saying about fighting four time in 2005. With Hopkins not too far away from retirement he needs to have a big year to prove he is truly the undisputed best in the world. I don't see him losing this year becasue there is now way he will get either Tszyu or Cotto & and I think he will destroy Gatti and be too good for Shane Mosley even at 147.
I totally adore Gatti, but have no problem posting that getting in the ring with Floyd would be a mistake. Gatti doesnt do so good with boxers of Floyds caliber (he is too skilled)...he is much better with those that just come at him and wanna slug. I'd honestly rather him not fight him and keep his record from gaining any more losses. True there are others out there that can beat Gatti, but Floyd really seems to want him, and from the way he talked last night its all but a 'done deal' for this summer! :eek:
Kimmy 01-23-2005, 02:28 PM For Gatti this fight leaves choices. If Gatti is brave me may put up a good enough fight to earn another pay day. However, if Gatti can land that one punch and focus on landing it, it has the chance to score a big win. All logic is focusing on a Mayweather win, but you never know...
duncangerman 01-23-2005, 02:34 PM Pretty boy was impressive last night, however I dont see him having enough finishing power at 140 to knock anyone out, PBF caught Bruseles off balance a few times but never really rocked him. As for PBF moving up to 147 - no, he is just too damn small.
tracylee 01-23-2005, 02:40 PM For Gatti this fight leaves choices. If Gatti is brave me may put up a good enough fight to earn another pay day. However, if Gatti can land that one punch and focus on landing it, it has the chance to score a big win. All logic is focusing on a Mayweather win, but you never know...
Hey, I totally dig that scenario! But, Bruseles tried like hell all night and just couldnt touch him..dont see Gatti having better luck. He is my favorite fighter so him knocking out Floyd would be fantastic, but I just dont see him being able to connect. If he did however, it would be interesting to see how Floyd handled it ;)
adeelr 01-23-2005, 02:45 PM kostya zu can beat him, zab judah can beat him, oscar delahoya can beat him, felix trinidad will kill him.
mic573 01-23-2005, 02:49 PM Hey, I totally dig that scenario! But, Bruseles tried like hell all night and just couldnt touch him..dont see Gatti having better luck. He is my favorite fighter so him knocking out Floyd would be fantastic, but I just dont see him being able to connect. If he did however, it would be interesting to see how Floyd handled it ;)
I think Floyd will handle Gatti's power well. Corley got everybody excited when he buzzed Mayweather for a second. Floyd has a great chin and his power is being underestimated. Those punches are not soft and I think his opponents realized that when they get tagged a few times.
Dark Destroyer 01-23-2005, 02:52 PM I'll go the full way and say that NOBODY can beat Floyd at Welterweight. :cool:
tracylee 01-23-2005, 02:58 PM I think Floyd will handle Gatti's power well. Corley got everybody excited when he buzzed Mayweather for a second. Floyd has a great chin and his power is being underestimated. Those punches are not soft and I think his opponents realized that when they get tagged a few times.
Maybe so..it would be interesting to see though ;) But unfortunately its probably a mute point anyway, cause I just dont see Gatti landing much on Floyd
Zab Super Judah 01-23-2005, 04:14 PM I dont think anyone could beat mayweather at 140..i think he would destroy tsyzu....his toughest opponent would be cotto at 140
jack_the_rippuh 01-23-2005, 06:44 PM Mayweather will stop Gatti too..
By the way, who was covering the fight...Lampley, Merchant, and who?
Solo322 01-23-2005, 06:51 PM the other guy was roy jones
jack_the_rippuh 01-23-2005, 06:54 PM the other guy was roy jones
Did Roy Jones Jr. have anything to add to boost himself up?
obaioghill 01-23-2005, 07:10 PM I think PBF is great - but I think moving up to 147 fo Mosley and DLH would be tough. Mosely realy was Sugar Shane at 147. It would be a great fight - but Mosely's power was huge at 147! It would be a great fight. DLH is really never impressed me with power and I don't see him out boxing PBF at 147 - but he would have a power edge - another great fight. Any of the Great players at 140 will have problems - including Tzu.
Pullcounter 01-23-2005, 07:11 PM To beat PBF you have to make him one-dimensional, that means you have to be a faster counter-puncher than him and let him lead, or you have to be a strong power-puncher that can cut off the ring and put alot of pressure on him.
phallus 01-23-2005, 07:13 PM I totally adore Gatti, but have no problem posting that getting in the ring with Floyd would be a mistake. Gatti doesnt do so good with boxers of Floyds caliber (he is too skilled)...he is much better with those that just come at him and wanna slug. I'd honestly rather him not fight him and keep his record from gaining any more losses. True there are others out there that can beat Gatti, but Floyd really seems to want him, and from the way he talked last night its all but a 'done deal' for this summer! :eek:
PBF wants gatti for two reasons, he's a big draw financially and has a huge fan base - it'll be a very high profile fight which Floyd wants for the second reason, he'll TKO Gatti and he wants everyone to see it. i too, think PBF is a bad move for Gatti, he's gonna get roughed up bad. Gatti has become a decent boxer puncher in the last few years but when he's trying to outbox PBF he's gonna get schooled and then TKO'd. if mayweather were to move up to 147, he'll lose most of his punching power but his speed and skills will still give his opponents massive problems. The best fight for PBF at 140, if he decides to stay ( i don't think he will ) is Kostya. KT is big and strong ( on fight night he'll be a junior middleweight ) and skilled enough to get to PBF's chin and check it.
Floydmayweather 01-23-2005, 07:53 PM Floyd will beat Gatti into pieces. He is faster, smarter, his reflexes are far superior and Gatti will be to tired and hurt to land the big punch late. As for Cotto he is to young right now but he has a chance. He will have lots of trouble with Floyds speed and will get hurt but does have the kind of body work that fight pay off. Hatton will lose. So, that brings it to Zoo. Thats the fight everyone wants to see and its the best matchup for both fighters.
the0source 01-23-2005, 07:53 PM PBF wants gatti for two reasons, he's a big draw financially and has a huge fan base - it'll be a very high profile fight which Floyd wants for the second reason, he'll TKO Gatti and he wants everyone to see it. i too, think PBF is a bad move for Gatti, he's gonna get roughed up bad. Gatti has become a decent boxer puncher in the last few years but when he's trying to outbox PBF he's gonna get schooled and then TKO'd. if mayweather were to move up to 147, he'll lose most of his punching power but his speed and skills will still give his opponents massive problems. The best fight for PBF at 140, if he decides to stay ( i don't think he will ) is Kostya. KT is big and strong ( on fight night he'll be a junior middleweight ) and skilled enough to get to PBF's chin and check it.
Most of Mayweather's opponents are patsies... he's in gonna be in trouble at 140 if he stays... and he will be killed at 147...
And fighting Gatti... he might do a Marquez, price himself out...
Floydmayweather 01-23-2005, 07:55 PM In trouble at 140 what the hell are u talking about. He killed Chop , he will kill Gatti (and it will happen) and he has a good shot at beating Zoo stoping hating.
MetalVomit 01-23-2005, 07:58 PM Last night reminded me how great of a fighter Floyd is. I know he was just fighting Bruseles but still, that was a perfect performance. His defense is incredible he bearly got hit the whole fight, he bearly broke a sweat! I think there no question who the pound 4 pound king is a far as skill and talent. The question is who can beat him from 140-154? You can bearly hit this guy! Would Tyzsu even be able to hit him in the head?
Tszyu can beat him, as well as Mosely, De La Hoya, almost any good fighter 147 to 154 because Floyd's power has already bottomed out at 140. He is immensely talented, but he is too small for those guys.
Floydmayweather 01-23-2005, 08:01 PM Yes, Zoo has a shot but to say he is in trouble is ridiculous.
ThunderGatti 01-23-2005, 08:14 PM Gatti will beat PBF come summer time. That is unless Mayweather can stay out of jail. But besides that I think it was absoletly BS to say PBF is #1 P4P. The guy hasent fought anybody in almost 3 years. Brussles is a joke. Mayweather will lose to Gatti or if he moves up to 147 De La Hoya will beat him too. Cmon PBF is P4P the most over rated fighter in boxing. And remember this Mayweather fans, PBF need the Gatti fight more than Gatti himself does. Arturo is in the drivers seat and calling the shots at 140!
tracylee 01-23-2005, 08:24 PM PBF wants gatti for two reasons, he's a big draw financially and has a huge fan base - it'll be a very high profile fight which Floyd wants for the second reason, he'll TKO Gatti and he wants everyone to see it. i too, think PBF is a bad move for Gatti, he's gonna get roughed up bad. Gatti has become a decent boxer puncher in the last few years but when he's trying to outbox PBF he's gonna get schooled and then TKO'd. if mayweather were to move up to 147, he'll lose most of his punching power but his speed and skills will still give his opponents massive problems. The best fight for PBF at 140, if he decides to stay ( i don't think he will ) is Kostya. KT is big and strong ( on fight night he'll be a junior middleweight ) and skilled enough to get to PBF's chin and check it.
I agree that if anybody has a chance against Floyd is hard hitting Tszyu. He not only hits very hard, but is an excellent boxer..those two combined can cause Floyd touble! ;)
phallus 01-23-2005, 08:32 PM I agree that if anybody has a chance against Floyd is hard hitting Tszyu. He not only hits very hard, but is an excellent boxer..those two combined can cause Floyd touble! ;)
Kostya is the only man at 140 who can pressure PBF like no one else. if the same KT shows up to their figth as the one that destroyed Sharmba Mitchell, he'll KTFO Floyd in the late rounds, probably by catching him on the ropes after PBF gets tired of doing the Ali shuffle
Tha Greatest 01-23-2005, 08:39 PM Floyd will destroy gatti,hatton,and harris.
i'd have to give it to floyd against cotto(i'm a big cotto fan)
but cotto has to fight a few more fights then fight pbf
Tszyu can be a very dangerous opponent, that right hand can take out ANYONE! Tszyu is very accurate and will wait for that moment to throw the right hand. if floyd can fight smart he can beat tszyu. He should clear out 140 pound limit before goin to 147.
He needs to show his p4p best.
Sister Sledge 01-23-2005, 08:39 PM I don't think KT's can beat PBF. Floyd does just about everything better than Tzyu expect punch and Floyd is not stupid enough to trade with KT. It would take a guy like Vivian Harris, who is tall and rangy and may create a problem with his style to beat Floyd. Cotto is good, but he doesn't have the experience to beat Floyd yet.
the0source 01-23-2005, 09:14 PM In trouble at 140 what the hell are u talking about. He killed Chop , he will kill Gatti (and it will happen) and he has a good shot at beating Zoo stoping hating.
I'm not hating dumb@$$... its my opinion and everybody is entitled to one...
Mayweather, is fighting sissies... he keeps on talking he wants Gatti and yet he choose to fight a patsy... cmon' cut the crap...
He even has trouble getting past her girl in a fight, that sometimes he has to use his foot to kick her to get the upperhand...
davico 01-23-2005, 09:19 PM KT is one of the best boxers in the world at cutting off the ring and is also one of the most patient boxers in the world. True PBF loves to counter punch and is super quick. I think KT's best weapons are exactly what is needed to beat PBF. If he is patient and cuts off the ring well, he will put alot of pressure on PBF and force him into the corners. Once that happens, forgetaboutit, the power comes and it's all over.
lapulapu 01-23-2005, 09:29 PM I'm not hating dumb@$$... its my opinion and everybody is entitled to one...
Mayweather, is fighting sissies... he keeps on talking he wants Gatti and yet he choose to fight a patsy... cmon' cut the crap...
He even has trouble getting past her girl in a fight, that sometimes he has to use his foot to kick her to get the upperhand...
Is this fight with his girl true? No wonder, the depressing write up about him. We should vote Floyd for GAY PRESIDENT...
PacME 01-23-2005, 09:35 PM I think he would beat De La Hoya at 147 because his superior defense and quickness.i dont think so buddy.........De La Hoya would knock Mayweather down i the late round if they ever fight, but since he beat bruseles the one who spared with Cotto maybe he should fight Cotto how about that?!?!?!?!
Floyd Mayweather is a good boxer but not entertaiing :mad: :mad:
Floydmayweather 01-23-2005, 11:38 PM Whatever pal he will fight Gatti soon and he will work him bad. Then it will be Floyd and Zoo. Speed and Reflexes Vs Power it should be great.
MetalVomit 01-23-2005, 11:39 PM Whatever pal he will fight Gatti soon and he will work him bad. Then it will be Floyd and Zoo. Speed and Reflexes Vs Power it should be great.
Floyd will beat Gatti, not as easily as everyone thinks, but without a doubt he will beat him. Definently
enegue 01-24-2005, 05:56 AM No one is unbeatable! But I think he would beat Gatti though. He will only have that aura of invincibility if he will fight and beat all the king pins of the welterweights, no more no less.
Mikeystlasvegas22 01-24-2005, 08:58 AM Maybe so..it would be interesting to see though ;) But unfortunately its probably a mute point anyway, cause I just dont see Gatti landing much on Floyd
WARD VS GATTI 2 LOOK AT THE FIGHT IF GATTI LANDES STRONG BODY SHOTS TO FLOYD MAYWEATHER FLOYD WILL BE KNOCKED OUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT BUM GET KO'ED FLOYD IS GOING TO BE LIKE ROY JONES JR
Bombardier 01-24-2005, 09:01 AM WARD VS GATTI 2 LOOK AT THE FIGHT IF GATTI LANDES STRONG BODY SHOTS TO FLOYD MAYWEATHER FLOYD WILL BE KNOCKED OUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT BUM GET KO'ED FLOYD IS GOING TO BE LIKE ROY JONES JR
What makes you think that Gatti could even catch Floyd? He's older, slower, and less talented. Look at PBF against Bruseles. He did not get hit hard once. It's not like Gatti's got much better skills that that guy. He's one tough SOB and a hell of a brawler, but there's no way he'll catch a dancing PBF in the ring.
Mikeystlasvegas22 01-24-2005, 09:12 AM What makes you think that Gatti could even catch Floyd? He's older, slower, and less talented. Look at PBF against Bruseles. He did not get hit hard once. It's not like Gatti's got much better skills that that guy. He's one tough SOB and a hell of a brawler, but there's no way he'll catch a dancing PBF in the ring.
IM TELLING YOU FLOYD FOR LONG WHEN HE FACES TOP FIGHERS AND FIGHTS HE WILL NOT STAY UNDEFEATED WILL FINALLY LOSE TO SOMEONE. HE GOING TO GET JACKED UP BY SOMEONE
Bombardier 01-24-2005, 09:20 AM IM TELLING YOU FLOYD FOR LONG WHEN HE FACES TOP FIGHERS AND FIGHTS HE WILL NOT STAY UNDEFEATED WILL FINALLY LOSE TO SOMEONE. HE GOING TO GET JACKED UP BY SOMEONE
Sure, I guess. Most guys lose eventually. I don't think it will be Gatti who beats him, though. And I don't think he's going to get beat anytime soon.
pinkpanther 01-24-2005, 09:33 AM Sure, I guess. Most guys lose eventually. I don't think it will be Gatti who beats him, though. And I don't think he's going to get beat anytime soon.
No question that Gatti will loose to Floyd, but lets be honest there are far bigger tests for him at 140, Zoo, Cotto and Hatton would all catch up to him eventually then we would see how good he is, Interestingly I would like to see him in with Mitchell, Mayweather wouldn't have the power to take him out and Mitchell is slippery, I would always fancy floyd to come through but it would be a much stiffer test.
Bombardier 01-24-2005, 09:36 AM No question that Gatti will loose to Floyd, but lets be honest there are far bigger tests for him at 140, Zoo, Cotto and Hatton would all catch up to him eventually then we would see how good he is, Interestingly I would like to see him in with Mitchell, Mayweather wouldn't have the power to take him out and Mitchell is slippery, I would always fancy floyd to come through but it would be a much stiffer test.
A fight with Cotto would be HUGE. I could see this one happening if (and when) he beats both Gatti and Kostya. Hatton might be out of the picture if (and when) he loses to Kostya. Not a big enough name and, like you say, it could be a bit of a risky one, though I just can't see any of these guys beating Floyd. He only half-cared about the Bruseles fight through training and during the fight and didn't even break into a sweat. If he trains hard for bigger names I could see it being just as easy.
pinkpanther 01-24-2005, 09:54 AM A fight with Cotto would be HUGE. I could see this one happening if (and when) he beats both Gatti and Kostya. Hatton might be out of the picture if (and when) he loses to Kostya. Not a big enough name and, like you say, it could be a bit of a risky one, though I just can't see any of these guys beating Floyd. He only half-cared about the Bruseles fight through training and during the fight and didn't even break into a sweat. If he trains hard for bigger names I could see it being just as easy.
Its strange in a division which is probably the hottest in boxing at the minute why none of the big figghts are being made, Hatton V Zoo is the biggest we have seen made for a while. Alot of the top guys are being protected. I think everyone is waiting for Zoo to move to 147, but credit to Hatton for stepping up and trying to take him out while the others just hang around.
Raekwon 01-24-2005, 10:03 AM okay first up Mikeystlasvegas22 press that damn caps locks key man u dont need to type everything in caps
2nd off pbf is a far better boxer than gatti
3rd i dont think many people want cotto at the moment, they all know he has mad skills but will it be a big money fight? thats the main worry when taking on fights like cotto where you could easily lose, yeah pbf has an attitude but thats all part of being a boxer, i know u can have a bit of modesty but if u think urself as the best you want to stay that way and prove it to anyone who doubts you so you constantly have that determination...
either way pbf will beat gatti, probs a ko/tko about 9/10 imo
pinkpanther 01-24-2005, 10:07 AM okay first up Mikeystlasvegas22 press that damn caps locks key man u dont need to type everything in caps
2nd off pbf is a far better boxer than gatti
3rd i dont think many people want cotto at the moment, they all know he has mad skills but will it be a big money fight? thats the main worry when taking on fights like cotto where you could easily lose, yeah pbf has an attitude but thats all part of being a boxer, i know u can have a bit of modesty but if u think urself as the best you want to stay that way and prove it to anyone who doubts you so you constantly have that determination...
either way pbf will beat gatti, probs a ko/tko about 9/10 imo
I don't think he has the power to take Gatti out, it would be a UD
Bombardier 01-24-2005, 10:13 AM Its strange in a division which is probably the hottest in boxing at the minute why none of the big figghts are being made, Hatton V Zoo is the biggest we have seen made for a while. Alot of the top guys are being protected. I think everyone is waiting for Zoo to move to 147, but credit to Hatton for stepping up and trying to take him out while the others just hang around.
The big fights will happen eventually...obviously there's a lot of BS going on right now but it's also a bit of a confusing time in the division. You have an aging superstar (Kostya), a big name warrior with limited skills (Gatti), a bunch of fading old guys (Sharmba, for one), a guy who might be good but who's never really been tested (Hatton), and a bunch of young guys eager for big fights. Mayweather's a wildcard because he just stepped up. Usually big name fighters will wait to take on young guys until they can generate big money, or else they pick off the pretenders until the real deals have built themselves up enough. With so many young hotshots with big potential though it's though for the big names to know who to pick.
In a year or two things should hopefully start to pick up, and we'll get the fights we want.
Mikeystlasvegas22 01-24-2005, 11:51 AM There No Way Floyd Wins Against Kostya Look The Mitchelle Fight
Awesome Kostya Ko In 5
bandito 01-24-2005, 04:17 PM The only person that can beat Mayweather is Mayweather himself in my opinion.
hell no. do'nt give me that roy jones bull**** he said that night. i think tszyu knocks him out. too strong, and too good. i think cotto in about 2 more fights can give floyd a run for his money and maybe beat him. i think mosley can beat him and dlh can too. we will see. kostya stops him!!
Colonel Jones 01-24-2005, 08:35 PM I salute every boxing fan on this site just for choosing the greatest sport to follow. As someone once told me "there are alot of things in boxing just like life, but there is nothing in life just like boxing." Boxing captures the very essence of mankind like no other sport. It has no rivals. However, there is one thing, after many years of observing this sport, that I can say with 100 % accuracy. No Matter how great you, or the experts, perceive a fighter, he can and WILL get beat. I remember when KO magazine picked Wilfredo Gomez as the lb. 4 lb. champ right before Salvador Sanchez dismantled him, People talk about how great Sanchez was, but few realize that he wasn't given due respect until he beat Gomez, alot of this talk of being great is mainly after the fact. I remember Donald CUrry was the next big thing: Boom, he's done. Edwin Rosario, knocked out, Jose 'the threat' barret, knocked out; John Tate, Iced by Mike Weaver; Vladimir Klitshcko, exposed; Roy Jones Jr. was eventually beat, Foreman was stopped By Ali, DeJesus upset Duran. If you've been a boxing fan for a short time then you probably are still too in awe of the fighters, and actuallly believe some of the hype. However, if you've been watching this game for awhile, then you know, that every fighter out there will get beat, doesn't mean he isn't great, quite the opposite, like said before, "a fighter can only be great once he's been beat, it's what he does after defeat that defines his greatness" So yes Mayfield can, and one day will, be beat, that is a fact, but what he does after that defeat will truly define how great he is. Remember, there is always someone out there whose bigger badder,stronger. jUst because a can beat b, and b can beat c, doesn't mean that a can beat c. Mark my word, Mayweather will lose,(although that may seem as absurd as saying Jones Jr. will lose) but if he's truly great, then we will see his masterpiece after the loss, much like we saw Ali's painting of Foreman, and Holyfield's masterpiece performance of Tyson.
Sister Sledge 01-24-2005, 08:42 PM Bravo Colonel Jones on a great post
oldgringo 01-24-2005, 09:57 PM I'd take Cotto to beat Mayweather. I wonder how Mayweather would react to a guy who hits harder, is quick, throws to the body as well as anyone, cuts the ring off well, has a huge left hook, and can counter punch very well. I think it'd actually be a chess match for awhile as both guys are very patient. It'd be a great fight. If Mayweather won I think it'd be a close decision and Mayweather may have to get off the canvas.
Anybody else think Hatton/Mayweather would kind of look like Toney/Jirov?
borikua 01-24-2005, 09:59 PM Floyd and Miguel will clean up the division and then fight each other on a mega-match....
Floydmayweather 01-24-2005, 10:05 PM Mayweather is much smarter than any of Cottos oppenents to date. If pinto gave him trouble early Floyd will give him hell. Cotto will adapt and it should make for a terrific fight.
bandito 01-24-2005, 11:01 PM cotto is a monster. but he is still young. but cotto hits way harder than mayweather, isn't faster but is fast himself. he is bigger and physically stronger and floyd will not hurt cotto. floyd has no big power at 140. his speed is his power but eventually he will need physical and big power punching power to knock guys out!! whoever said that no one at 140 can beat floyd has floyd's **** down his throat right now. he is going to have trouble at 140 and you are saying no one at 147 can beat him? ha ha ha. i think there are guys called mosley, delahoya, spinks, judah who might have something else to say. i think mosley and delahoya will win!!
xrhythmxnxbluesx 01-24-2005, 11:13 PM i'll give it to mayweather... he has the best defense... and i dun think he will be beaten any time soon...
Sister Sledge 01-24-2005, 11:38 PM Wether we love him or hate him, Floyd Mayweather's talent cannot be denied. Many people thought he was too small, or not strong enough, or just a punk. Then he fought and shut us all up.
Many people thought Corrales was too big and too strong, and Floyd proceeded to beat the crap out of him.
Many people thought Cassilas won their first fight and he wip PBF the second time around and Floyd boxed his ears off.
He may not be too big or too strong, and he may well be a punk. But he is smart and he comes to fight every time. He is ready.
He's the most consistent fighter we have today
Floydmayweather 01-24-2005, 11:56 PM Floyd will only get stronger as he adapts to the new weight he wears his oppenenets down. He will go to the body early against Gatti and Ko, you can bet on that. As for Zoo everyone thinks he is unstopable since he puttin a hurting on mictchell. First of Mitchell is no wear near as fast as Floyd. Secondly, his defense is not great, floyds is the best. Also, floyd is an excellent counter pucncher. Yes, zoo hits real hard but Floyd does not have a glass jaw. He has been hit with some punches and been fine. I think Mitchell has more of a problem taking punches than Floyd. Anyway i think the fight will be close and anyone excepting a blow out will be sadly mistake as Floyd will be at his all time best for that fight.
Peace
INFAMOUZ 01-25-2005, 03:13 AM I Think Dela Hoya By Ud Thought
Silverfox 01-25-2005, 09:45 PM Last night reminded me how great of a fighter Floyd is. I know he was just fighting Bruseles but still, that was a perfect performance. His defense is incredible he bearly got hit the whole fight, he bearly broke a sweat! I think there no question who the pound 4 pound king is a far as skill and talent. The question is who can beat him from 140-154? You can bearly hit this guy! Would Tyzsu even be able to hit him in the head?
Bearly break a sweat? Surely that only happens to grizzlies!
Oh sorry....You must have meant barely! LOL. :D
Silverfox 01-25-2005, 09:52 PM Give Ricky Hatton time and he will show this guy how to really box.
I tend to agree.
Everyone is touting Kostya. He can be hit and relies on getting his right hand in to effect damage. I believe that Hatton is too hard a puncher for him and Cotto is definitely too strong for him.
At this stage, Cotto would come out the winner, all around!
Jose Rizal 01-25-2005, 10:08 PM PBF definitely needs to fight a big name real soon and get in the PPV arena. Right now, he's not bringing in the money fighting 2nd-rate fighters. He's getting more attention out of speculation on what he could do with the other popular fighters than what he's achieved. He's definitely got the talent but he won't get p4p no. 1 in my list until he proves himself with the host of great fighters out there, and stays off the brusselsprouts. It's time to bring in the elite in the menu.
Floydmayweather 01-25-2005, 10:34 PM no doubt its gonna happen soon. (Gatti, Zoo, and then maybe cotto)
I think Floyd at Mosley would be a perfect matchup. Both guys are fast and has boxing skills.
Dela hoya will beat Floyd. It is up to who will engage first. But I'm sure Dela Hoya will be the aggressive boxer. Floyd cannot attack DLH easily because DLH has a great jab and so fast.
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