Since that's all anyone on here looks at, let's really look at his losses.


Buster Douglas- If you look at Tysons face going into this fight what do see?, someone that's very bored. After Tyson beat Spinks, he just became a head hunter. Just watch his fights against Frank Bruno and Carl Williams. No head movement, no intinsty, just looking to land one big punch. Then the Buster comes along. Now everyone says he was getting his butt handed to him the whole night...BS! One judge had Tyson up on his scorecard and another had the fight even. So it wasnt as one sided as some make it seem. In round 8, Tyson KO's Buster, but the ref only counts to 9. The count seemed VERY slow.

Evander Holyfield- Tyson after sevring 3 and a half years in jail makes a comeback. He KO's Frank Bruno in 3 rounds to win back the WBC belt. Then KO's Bruce Seldon in 1 round to win back the WBA belt. That alone is a huge accomlisment after no training for close to four years in jail. People make it out like Holyfield sent Tyson to the floor every round or something. When it was really Tyson trying to come in on the inside and Holyfield just counter punching. Then the fight was stoped in the 11th round due to Tysons cut. So then comes the rematch, the highest selling PPV in history. The first two rounds where rather even with Holyfield having the edge. Then the infamous 3 round takes place. Tyson is really hitting Holyfield, having the best round of either fight. It even looked like Tyson could KO Holyfield. Then Holyfield throws a headbutt and busts Tysons head open. The ref says the headbutt was an acident. We all know what happens next.

Lennox Lewis- This was Tysons first and only " really real" loss. At the press conference, Tyson actully wrestled with Lennox on the floor and bit Lennox on the leg. Lennox with cloths ripped and leg bitten ran up outta there. This fight was a bad style match up. Lennox being about half a foot taller and had a 13'' reach advantage. Tyson did anything but back down in this fight. He even won the first round. He came charging out of his conner in every round at Lennox. Lennox said himself that Tyson was WAY past his prime and believed he was in his. I strongly believe if this fight had taken place in Tysons prime it would have been a KO victory for Tyson. I mean, does anyone blame Joe Louis for losing to Rocky Marciano? Watch that fight and there's alot of simaliritys to Tyson vs. Lewis.


Danny Willaims- Tyson was winning this fight. He hurt his knee in the 2nd but fought on to the fourth.


Kevin Mcbride- This one really ticks me off. Tyson trainer told him he should quit, cause he was behind in the fight. Even though 2 judges had Tyson ahead!


Well there you have it...the losses. Compare him to other greats like Joe Louis, Jack Dempsey, Sonny Liston, Jack Johnson, he deserves to be mentioned with those guys. There records are similar, Tyson has does many great things. I think the biggest was winning back the WBC and WBA belts after 3 and ahalf years with out training. I dont think some understand how devastating that can be to a Boxers career. But some chose only to look at the above losses.....

stop making exscuses
holyfield would beat tyson 10 times out of 10

stop making exscuses
holyfield would beat tyson 10 times out of 10

Well if it wasnt for Tyson having lunch in the ring, it may have been 1/2.

mike gets props for becoming champ at 20
but thats it he aint even top 20 p4p

ali would whoop him
foreman would crush him
frazier would smoke him
dempsey would beat him into submission
and louis would embarress him with a boxing lesson

mike gets props for becoming champ at 20
but thats it he aint even top 20 p4p

ali would whoop him
foreman would crush him
frazier would smoke him
dempsey would beat him into submission
and louis would embarress him with a boxing lesson

Ali himself said he could not beat Tyson.


The closest one up there would be Foreman and maby Demspey(though Tyson and Dempsey had the same style.)

I still put Tyson in the top 10.

Dempsey beats Tyson? LOL Yeah the 185 lb Dempsey,can beat the 220lb Tyson. :rolleyes: Don't even get me stated with the speed, power, and skill differece.

God some of you people are really stupid, and have never seen Tyson nor Dempsey fight.

Ali himself said he could not beat Tyson.


The closest one up there would be Foreman and maby Demspey(though Tyson and Dempsey had the same style.)

I still put Tyson in the top 10.

ali himself said it when?
when he was old and riddled with parkinsons
get a grip ali would destroy tyson
tyson cant hurt arguably the best heavyweight chin ever
and ali's speed would make mikes head spin
the bob and weave style is useless agains ali

Dempsey beats Tyson? LOL Yeah the 185 lb Dempsey,can beat the 220lb Tyson. :rolleyes: Don't even get me stated with the speed, power, and skill differece.

God some of you people are really stupid, and have never seen Tyson nor Dempsey fight.

dempsey beats mike end of
tyson is probably the most overrated fighter ever
he was a child in a mans body
he would have shat himself if stood face to face with dempsey

Ali himself said he could not beat Tyson.

I recently saw an interview with Ali. He said he would whup Tyson and lewis at the same time!

get a ****ing grip u tyson sausage jockeys
he was an average fighter at best with power thats all
he lost all his big career defining fights
and when faced with people who refused to be bullied he
wilted

Dempsey beats Tyson? LOL Yeah the 185 lb Dempsey,can beat the 220lb Tyson. :rolleyes: Don't even get me stated with the speed, power, and skill differece.

God some of you people are really stupid, and have never seen Tyson nor Dempsey fight.


Im a huge Tyson fan, but dont EVER count Jack Dempsey out.

If Jack Dempsey can beat 245 pound Jess Willard, knocking him down 7 times in one round, knocking out 5 teeth, broke his jaw and rib...I dare say he has a chance against a 220 lb person. Looks like it's YOU who never saw Jack Dempsey fight.

mike gets props for becoming champ at 20
but thats it he aint even top 20 p4p

ali would whoop him
foreman would crush him
frazier would smoke him
dempsey would beat him into submission
and louis would embarress him with a boxing lesson

u boviously havnt seen most of his fights if u think he's not 20 p4p.ahahaha. short heavyweight. light weight hand speed,and enourmous power

u boviously havnt seen most of his fights if u think he's not 20 p4p.ahahaha. short heavyweight. light weight hand speed,and enourmous power

actually i have seen most of his fights
all against nobodies
and when faced with decent fighters like holyfield and lewis he
had no chance
i mean who has he beat of worth
nobody an old holmes and spinks :rolleyes:

I think if Holmes hadn't of had that 2 year lay off he would have beat Tyson.

tyson is not 20 p4p,hes in top 5 p4p,hes power was like no others and i cant see any1 matching hes power ever again,a pre jail tyson wud of whooped any1 put in front of him including ali

tyson is not 20 p4p,hes in top 5 p4p,hes power was like no others and i cant see any1 matching hes power ever again,a pre jail tyson wud of whooped any1 put in front of him including ali

i can see why you are in the red :rolleyes:

and i give a **** why?

actually i have seen most of his fights
all against nobodies
and when faced with decent fighters like holyfield and lewis he
had no chance
i mean who has he beat of worth
nobody an old holmes and spinks :rolleyes:


Ya, Tony Tucker, Larry Holmes, Micheal Spinks, Frank Bruno, Tony Tubbs, Bone Crusher Smith, Donovan Rudduck, these guys suck. Im sure anyone on these boards could beat them. :rolleyes:

Ya, Tony Tucker, Larry Holmes, Micheal Spinks, Frank Bruno, Tony Tubbs, Bone Crusher Smith, Donovan Rudduck, these guys suck. Im sure anyone on these boards could beat them. :rolleyes:

no they couldnt
tony tucker is nobody of worth
and frank bruno was average at best
to even bring these names up in a how good was tyson argument
is admiting defeat

no they couldnt
tony tucker is nobody of worth
and frank bruno was average at best
to even bring these names up in a how good was tyson argument
is admiting defeat

Im just saying he fought the best that was out there when he was champ.

I mean Tyson is the ONLY person to get all three belts one by one. No one else has done it since.

Im just saying he fought the best that was out there when he was champ.

I mean Tyson is the ONLY person to get all three belts one by one. No one else has done it since.

put ali
foreman
frazier
dempsey
louis
and holyfield all prime and they would have done the same
mike cleaned up piss poor opposition
untill he was stopped by buster douglas :rolleyes:

Mike at his peak in the late 80's was a very dominant, frightening, and overpowering heavyweight champion.
I agree that Evander would have beaten him had they fought after Holyfield ko'd Douglas, but Mike was a great one to me.
His career at the top was meteoric, short-lived and very exciting, and brought lots of attention back to boxing after the boring post Larry Holmes era.
I would have Mike in my Top Twenty, but not in the Top Ten.
Jack

Mike at his peak in the late 80's was a very dominant, frightening, and overpowering heavyweight champion.
I agree that Evander would have beaten him had they fought after Holyfield ko'd Douglas, but Mike was a great one to me.
His career at the top was meteoric, short-lived and very exciting, and brought lots of attention back to boxing after the boring post Larry Holmes era.
I would have Mike in my Top Twenty, but not in the Top Ten.
Jack

good post k for u

put ali
foreman
frazier
dempsey
louis
and holyfield all prime and they would have done the same
mike cleaned up piss poor opposition
untill he was stopped by buster douglas :rolleyes:

Ya, and Jack Johnson would whoop everyone on that list and laugh at them. No can prove who can whoop who, these are all opinions.

Tyson is the reason why boxing is still around today. No one watched boxing back in the mid 80's. Then Tyson came along and made many a Boxing fan like myself.

Look at the people on your list and study their records like I have. Tysons 52-6 isnt that bad, He just had some mental problems...probly may have been the main factor in his downfall.


Name someone else that beat micheal Spinks?

Ya, and Jack Johnson would whoop everyone on that list and laugh at them. No can prove who can whoop who, these are all opinions.

Tyson is the reason why boxing is still around today. No one watched boxing back in the mid 80's. Then Tyson came along and made many a Boxing fan like myself.

Look at the people on your list and study their records like I have. Tysons 52-6 isnt that bad, He just had some mental problems...probly may have been the main factor in his downfall.


Name someone else that beat micheal Spinks?
er an old parkinsons riddled ali beat spinks
imagine what a prime ali would do to him

and your right mike gave spark to boxing
but thats it

ali would beat him 10/10
as would foreman
and frazier
and holyfield

i stand by that

er an old parkinsons riddled ali beat spinks
imagine what a prime ali would do to him

and your right mike gave spark to boxing
but thats it

ali would beat him 10/10
as would foreman
and frazier
and holyfield

i stand by that

I think even the biggest Tyson haters would have Tyson winning at least one of those fights.


Still, Tyson beat two people that Ali couldnt. There's just no way Holyfeild would have beaten an 87' Tyson.

Why do you have Holyfeild as so great? 38-8-2 isnt that great, his biggest win was against Tyson...a fight that was stopped cause of a cut...how impressive.

I think even the biggest Tyson haters would have Tyson winning at least one of those fights.


Still, Tyson beat two people that Ali couldnt. There's just no way Holyfeild would have beaten an 87' Tyson.

Why do you have Holyfeild as so great? 38-8-2 isnt that great, his biggest win was against Tyson...a fight that was stopped cause of a cut...how impressive.

styles make fights
all mike can do is ko
he aint winning on pts

and ali and holyfield
and foreman aint getting ko'd thats a fact

Mike Tyson AWESOME!!!!! I like this guy. His style, his power, his speed. The way he put fear in his opponents when he fought him. His opponents in his prime literraly got scared to throw punches at him. Tyson is a legend!

Since that's all anyone on here looks at, let's really look at his losses.


Buster Douglas- If you look at Tysons face going into this fight what do see?, someone that's very bored. After Tyson beat Spinks, he just became a head hunter. Just watch his fights against Frank Bruno and Carl Williams. No head movement, no intinsty, just looking to land one big punch. Then the Buster comes along. Now everyone says he was getting his butt handed to him the whole night...BS! One judge had Tyson up on his scorecard and another had the fight even. So it wasnt as one sided as some make it seem. In round 8, Tyson KO's Buster, but the ref only counts to 9. The count seemed VERY slow.

Evander Holyfield- Tyson after sevring 3 and a half years in jail makes a comeback. He KO's Frank Bruno in 3 rounds to win back the WBC belt. Then KO's Bruce Seldon in 1 round to win back the WBA belt. That alone is a huge accomlisment after no training for close to four years in jail. People make it out like Holyfield sent Tyson to the floor every round or something. When it was really Tyson trying to come in on the inside and Holyfield just counter punching. Then the fight was stoped in the 11th round due to Tysons cut. So then comes the rematch, the highest selling PPV in history. The first two rounds where rather even with Holyfield having the edge. Then the infamous 3 round takes place. Tyson is really hitting Holyfield, having the best round of either fight. It even looked like Tyson could KO Holyfield. Then Holyfield throws a headbutt and busts Tysons head open. The ref says the headbutt was an acident. We all know what happens next.

Lennox Lewis- This was Tysons first and only " really real" loss. At the press conference, Tyson actully wrestled with Lennox on the floor and bit Lennox on the leg. Lennox with cloths ripped and leg bitten ran up outta there. This fight was a bad style match up. Lennox being about half a foot taller and had a 13'' reach advantage. Tyson did anything but back down in this fight. He even won the first round. He came charging out of his conner in every round at Lennox. Lennox said himself that Tyson was WAY past his prime and believed he was in his. I strongly believe if this fight had taken place in Tysons prime it would have been a KO victory for Tyson. I mean, does anyone blame Joe Louis for losing to Rocky Marciano? Watch that fight and there's alot of simaliritys to Tyson vs. Lewis.


Danny Willaims- Tyson was winning this fight. He hurt his knee in the 2nd but fought on to the fourth.


Kevin Mcbride- This one really ticks me off. Tyson trainer told him he should quit, cause he was behind in the fight. Even though 2 judges had Tyson ahead!


Well there you have it...the losses. Compare him to other greats like Joe Louis, Jack Dempsey, Sonny Liston, Jack Johnson, he deserves to be mentioned with those guys. There records are similar, Tyson has does many great things. I think the biggest was winning back the WBC and WBA belts after 3 and ahalf years with out training. I dont think some understand how devastating that can be to a Boxers career. But some chose only to look at the above losses.....

no excuse for the douglass, holyfield or lewis lost. tyson was done in the mcbride fight as well.

Mike Tyson AWESOME!!!!! I like this guy. His style, his power, his speed. The way he put fear in his opponents when he fought him. His opponents in his prime literraly got scared to throw punches at him. Tyson is a legend!


Someone with sense around here.


That's something Ali could NEVER do...make his opponents afraid of him. People where so scared of him they would forget to fight back, they just tryed to live another round. Not even Foreman put that kind of fear into fighters.

Someone with sense around here.


That's something Ali could NEVER do...make his opponents afraid of him. People where so scared of him they would forget to fight back, they just tryed to live another round. Not even Foreman put that kind of fear into fighters.

no ali relied on genuine talent and skill
not fake fear and bravado :rolleyes:

no excuse for the douglass, holyfield or lewis lost. tyson was done in the mcbride fight as well.


Guess you didnt read the first post. Well noone can say anything about the 52 wins. You can't take away the fact that Tyson put all three belts together. Not even Lewis could win each belt one by one.

Who did Lennox ever beat? An old Tyson and Holyfield.

no ali relied on genuine talent and skill
not fake fear and bravado :rolleyes:

Who did Ali beat? George Foreman. That's it. Fraizer was old in their last two mettings. And Sonny Liston was 35.

Mike Tyson made boxing very popular all over the world. When the casual people are asked about boxing, they automatically think and say Mike Tyson. No one in history has done what Mike did in terms of the popularity of the sport. The excitement he brought in the ring is just insane. Mike Tyson is/was the biggest draw in boxing.

Mike Tyson is GREAT! AWESOME! An icon to boxing.

Mike Tyson made boxing very popular all over the world. When the casual people are asked about boxing, they automatically think and say Mike Tyson. No one in history has done what Mike did in terms of the popularity of the sport. The excitement he brought in the ring is just insane. Mike Tyson is/was the biggest draw in boxing.

Mike Tyson is GREAT! AWESOME! An icon to boxing.

but he aint the best
which is what this discussion has become

Who did Ali beat? George Foreman. That's it. Fraizer was old in their last two mettings. And Sonny Liston was 35.

frazier and liston
at that age would have still owned tysons ass
patterson
foreman and remember this is an old ali against a seemingly unstopppable monster

ali owns tyson time and time again
mike aint beating ali

but he aint the best
which is what this discussion has become

Prime Mike Tyson would beat Prime Lewis if that's what you askin.

Prime Mike Tyson would beat Prime Lewis if that's what you askin.

i agree prime tyson would beat lewis
but ali
foreman
frazier
holyfield
dempsey and louis
all beat him

i agree prime tyson would beat lewis
but ali
foreman
frazier
holyfield
dempsey and louis
all beat him


but
Rocky Marciano
Jack Johnson
Mike Tyson
would all beat Ali.


Ali vs. Tyson would have been a bad match up for Ali. Tyson is WAY more powerful than Liston,Foreman, or Frazier. Ali NEVER fought someone as powerfull and quick as Tyson.


Im not saying Tyson is the greatest, but he's top 10 in my book.

but
Rocky Marciano
Jack Johnson
Mike Tyson
would all beat Ali.


Ali vs. Tyson would have been a bad match up for Ali. Tyson is WAY more powerful than Liston,Foreman, or Frazier. Ali NEVER fought someone as powerfull and quick as Tyson.


Im not saying Tyson is the greatest, but he's top 10 in my book.

plz foreman is ten times more powerful than tyson
ali beats any form of tyson
gey over it
your boy would get beat
and ali is faster than tyson
liston couldnt land a punch neither would tyson
and ali took foreman shots
he would take tysons

look i can see u like mike
and i give him proprs he was the best for his period
but to say he beats ali is ridiculous

plz foreman is ten times more powerful than tyson
ali beats any form of tyson
gey over it
your boy would get beat
and ali is faster than tyson
liston couldnt land a punch neither would tyson
and ali took foreman shots
he would take tysons

look i can see u like mike
and i give him proprs he was the best for his period
but to say he beats ali is ridiculous

Look, I live Ali county, just a county away from where he was born. I like him, but Tyson just hits too hard. If Ali got caught by one of those Tyson uppercuts...it's over.


Frazier,Norten,Spinks,Holmes,Berbick


Those 2 are people Tyson beat that Ali didnt. And just to say he beat them is an understatement. He put them down a totall of 7 times combined .

wrong foreman landed an uppercut in the rumble flush
and ali took it
foreman is more powerful than tyson
end of discussion

wrong foreman landed an uppercut in the rumble flush
and ali took it
foreman is more powerful than tyson
end of discussion

And Ali admitted he was out on his feet several times in that fight. That's FACT.

And Ali admitted he was out on his feet several times in that fight. That's FACT.

yeah but was he ko'd no
tyson aint ko'ing ali
ali out boxes tyson
and puts him down in th 8th after a constant barrage of flurries

yeah but was he ko'd no
tyson aint ko'ing ali
ali out boxes tyson
and puts him down in th 8th after a constant barrage of flurries

Here's the fight.

Ali comes out for the first. He's so scared, he forgets to move. Tyson knocks him out in under 60 seconds.

Here's the fight.

Ali comes out for the first. He's so scared, he forgets to move. Tyson knocks him out in under 60 seconds.

haha
u could have at least provided a decent arguement
well done u have proved your mentality :rolleyes:

The count seemed VERY slow.

so he got a 14 count, so what. at least he didnt spit out his piece 3-4 times to buy an extra minute like corrales did vs castillo.

He KO's Frank Bruno

bruno sucked
Then KO's Bruce Seldon

so did seldon

When it was really Tyson trying to come in on the inside and Holyfield just counter punching.

Then Holyfield throws a headbutt and busts Tysons head open. The ref says the headbutt was an acident. We all know what happens next.

i love the taste of an ear. really unwinds me after a tough day
Lennox Lewis- This was Tysons first and only " really real" loss.
:sleeping:
Compare him to other greats like Joe Louis, Jack Dempsey, Sonny Liston, Jack Johnson, he deserves to be mentioned with those guys. There records are similar, Tyson has does many great things.
no. tyson had great ambition when cus was alive. once cus died, all of that ambition tyson had went with him, a person that mentally unsound shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence next to guys like louis. which is why ring magazine ranks him around #20 on the atg heavyweight list. in 2002 they had him at #15, that was before his loss to mcbride. he's probably #21 or #22 now. he has been stopped 5 times which is more than any other heavyweight champion. he cheats when he is about to lose. he never beat a world champion in his prime. sure, it was great watching him get bums outta there early in the late 80s, but besides that, what has tyson been good for.

so he got a 14 count, so what. at least he didnt spit out his piece 3-4 times to buy an extra minute like corrales did vs castillo.


bruno sucked

so did seldon


i love the taste of an ear. really unwinds me after a tough day

:sleeping:

no. tyson had great ambition when cus was alive. once cus died, all of that ambition tyson had went with him, a person that mentally unsound shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence next to guys like louis. which is why ring magazine ranks him around #20 on the atg heavyweight list. in 2002 they had him at #15, that was before his loss to mcbride. he's probably #21 or #22 now. he has been stopped 5 times which is more than any other heavyweight champion. he cheats when he is about to lose. he never beat a world champion in his prime. sure, it was great watching him get bums outta there early in the late 80s, but besides that, what has tyson been good for.


Im sure you would say all that to Mike Tysons face.




The bottem line......Iron Mike Tyson is great in my opinion. If he's not in yours, it your loss. I mean he's only a 2 time HW Champ.

He did what Holyfield and Lewis NEVER could....win each belt one by one.

"Im Sonny Liston, Im Jack Dempsey, and I can't be beat!"
-Iron Mike Tyson

Here's the fight.

Ali comes out for the first. He's so scared, he forgets to move. Tyson knocks him out in under 60 seconds.
you just have proven yourself retarded. no i mean it you must have some sort of brain deformity.

you just have proven yourself retarded. no i mean it you must have some sort of brain deformity.

well said k for u

you just have proven yourself retarded. no i mean it you must have some sort of brain deformity.


NO YOU ALL ARE THE RETARDS. THIS STUFF NEVER HAPPENED. THEY ARE CALLED OPINIONS. SOME YOU KIDS NEVER SAW TYSON FIGHT BACK IN 87'. TYSON BEATS ALI HANDS DOWN. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF JOE FRAZIER KICKIN THE CRAP OUT OF ALI?



Youre just mad cause Tyson is great. And he won back the belts.

NO YOU ALL ARE THE RETARDS. THIS STUFF NEVER HAPPENED. THEY ARE CALLED OPINIONS. SOME YOU KIDS NEVER SAW TYSON FIGHT BACK IN 87'. TYSON BEATS ALI HANDS DOWN. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF JOE FRAZIER KICKIN THE CRAP OUT OF ALI?



Youre just mad cause Tyson is great. And he won back the belts.

hahahahahah u ****ing clown
go smoke tysons **** ***** thats all u are good for
coz your opinion is ****

NO YOU ALL ARE THE RETARDS. THIS STUFF NEVER HAPPENED. THEY ARE CALLED OPINIONS. SOME YOU KIDS NEVER SAW TYSON FIGHT BACK IN 87'. TYSON BEATS ALI HANDS DOWN. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF JOE FRAZIER KICKIN THE CRAP OUT OF ALI?

I remember Joe Frazier nearly dying in Manila. At least he had heart to continue unlike a Mr Tyson. I never saw Tyson beat anybody worth mentioning. Although I've seen complete nobody's like Buster Douglas KO'ing a prime Tyson.

I remember Joe Frazier nearly dying in Manila. At least he had heart to continue unlike a Mr Tyson. I never saw Tyson beat anybody worth mentioning. Although I've seen complete nobody's like Buster Douglas KO'ing a prime Tyson.

well said lets put this tyson ***** nuthugger to sleep

NO YOU ALL ARE THE RETARDS. THIS STUFF NEVER HAPPENED. THEY ARE CALLED OPINIONS. SOME YOU KIDS NEVER SAW TYSON FIGHT BACK IN 87'. TYSON BEATS ALI HANDS DOWN. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF JOE FRAZIER KICKIN THE CRAP OUT OF ALI?



Youre just mad cause Tyson is great. And he won back the belts.
your joking right? i was definately old enough to watch tyson in 87, i loved watching him when i was a kid and i still do. tyson was the ****. he is one of the best heavyweights ever but there is no way he kicks ali's ass like you are saying. and saying that joe frazier ko'ed ali as a means of proving that ali wasnt that good is just stupid. getting knocked out by joe frazier is nothing to be ashamed of.

your joking right? i was definately old enough to watch tyson in 87, i loved watching him when i was a kid and i still do. tyson was the ****. he is one of the best heavyweights ever but there is no way he kicks ali's ass like you are saying. and saying that joe frazier ko'ed ali as a means of proving that ali wasnt that good is just stupid. getting knocked out by joe frazier is nothing to be ashamed of.

joe frazier never knocked ali out

actually i have seen most of his fights
all against nobodies
and when faced with decent fighters like holyfield and lewis he
had no chance
i mean who has he beat of worth
nobody an old holmes and spinks :rolleyes:


sure u have seen most of his fights. ;)

lets see legends gold medalist undefeated fighters,hmmmm titlest. your a real dumb **** ya know :D

no they couldnt
tony tucker is nobody of worth
and frank bruno was average at best
to even bring these names up in a how good was tyson argument
is admiting defeat


and pinklon thomas was in a top 50 hardest hitters list also

sure u have seen most of his fights. ;)

lets see legends gold medalist undefeated fighters,hmmmm titlest. your a real dumb **** ya know :D

i dont know who u are but its clear u are a tyson **** sucker
get the facts right *****

in fact oasis is probably the only person on this thread with sense
u are the dumb ****

stop making exscuses
holyfield would beat tyson 10 times out of 10
bull****, not in his prime.i would give him 1 out of three

joe frazier never knocked ali out
you know what i mean.

I like Tyson because he reminds me of Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano, Sonny Liston. All are fighters we will NEVER see anything like again. Then Tyson came along, but it's hard to live up to those above Legends.



I think Tyson would beat Ali, maby not in 60 seconds, but I believe he would catch him sooner or later. Or it would be like his fights against James Smith or Tony Tucker. No one ever beat an 80's Tyson, I dought anyone could.

er an old parkinsons riddled ali beat spinks
imagine what a prime ali would do to him

and your right mike gave spark to boxing
but thats it

ali would beat him 10/10
as would foreman
and frazier
and holyfield

i stand by that


u dont know **** about boxing to talk. ali beat LEON spinks not michael spinks. i think u owned your self there. so your knowledge doesnt get ne credit from me

no ali relied on genuine talent and skill
not fake fear and bravado :rolleyes:


fake fear??? how can fear be fake. your not makin sense at all :confused:

ali tko's ****e mike tyson can we move on please

Look, I live Ali county, just a county away from where he was born. I like him, but Tyson just hits too hard. If Ali got caught by one of those Tyson uppercuts...it's over.


Frazier,Norten,Spinks,Holmes,Berbick


Those 2 are people Tyson beat that Ali didnt. And just to say he beat them is an understatement. He put them down a totall of 7 times combined .

a prime ali rips tyson a new one. those were the last two fights of ali's career. bc vitali beat danny williams doesnt mean hes better than tyson. and danny was dropped 4 times in that fight

Ya, Tony Tucker, Larry Holmes, Micheal Spinks, Frank Bruno, Tony Tubbs, Bone Crusher Smith, Donovan Rudduck, these guys suck. Im sure anyone on these boards could beat them. :rolleyes:

haha your right!! this was one of the weakest era's in hw boxing history!

a prime ali rips tyson a new one. those were the last two fights of ali's career. bc vitali beat danny williams doesnt mean hes better than tyson. and danny was dropped 4 times in that fight


SO. 5 of Tyson losses came after his 4 years of no training in jail.

i dont know who u are but its clear u are a tyson **** sucker
get the facts right *****

in fact oasis is probably the only person on this thread with sense
u are the dumb ****


ya got me trembling.ahahahaha i might be on tysons dick but look whos on oasis dick at least on on the dick of a famous person.your on the dick of a nobody :confused:

ya got me trembling.ahahahaha i might be on tysons dick but look whos on oasis dick at least on on the dick of a famous person.your on the dick of a nobody :confused:

LOL! There just mad cause they know Tysons great and they can't do anything about it.

ya got me trembling.ahahahaha i might be on tysons dick but look whos on oasis dick at least on on the dick of a famous person.your on the dick of a nobody :confused:
u are a clear nobody i seen your me on the bag thread
what a sad ass trying to prove how macho u are
tyson was overrated and u want a 1/4 of his power
man u are gonna get smoked in a real fight

u are a clear nobody i seen your me on the bag thread
what a sad ass trying to prove how macho u are
tyson was overrated and u want a 1/4 of his power
man u are gonna get smoked in a real fight


macho? im going to get smoked in a real fight. so whos going to shoot me?and ima sad ass. all what u said doesnt make sense besides tyson is overrated which isnt true ne way

and of course im a nobody right now who said i was a somebody? did i say i was famous? nooooooooooo. i can tell your little immature cause u said im a nobody ahahahaaha. ppl in middle school say that.ahahaha

These people are just mad because Tyson set records that will never be broken. He's a two time HW Champ with 10 successfull defenses. And KO's 21 people in the first round.....DEAL WITH IT!

Ok guys.....Ali had the best chin in heavyweight history DONT TALK ****...he got floored by Sonny Banks (18-7(14KO's) in the first round by aLeft HookHe then went on to get floored again by a Left Hook from Sir Henry Cooper (40-14 55 KO's)Then Ali got beat and Knocked down by Frazier by a Left Hook Ken Norton broke and beat ali, Chuck Wepner floored ali in the 9th im sure it was a body punch tho? corret me if im worng tho... Leon Spinks beat Ali for his title, then Larry Homles ****ed him up before Berbick whopped on his ass two...Now if you really look at it Ali fought good punchers..

Liston- never hit him

Cooper- Put him down and had his ass knocked out and would hav won if ali's corrner didnt cheat

Frazier - 2 to 1 to Ali but ali was the only man to touch the canvas in 3 brutal fights

Foreman- Had him out on his feet but was to big tired and dumb to finish the ****ing fight, but ali showed amazin champion courage and heart and knocked his big ass out

So thats Banks,Cooper,Frazier and "Dumb as a truck" Chuck have all floored the so called greatest

Now Iron Mike Tyson youngest heavyweight champion in history...Knocked out Marvis Fraizer not as skilled as his dad but what a heart...Destroyed Berbick...who was the last man to beat Ali...Knocked out Thomas,Briggs, Holmes the second last man to beat Ali...Tubbs...Spinks..Bruno..Williams...
Got knocked down for the first time against Buster Douglas..not goin to make excues we hav all heard them before...
Knocked Down by Evander...
Knocked down by Lewis ...
Sat down against williams, he could hav won this fight even 2 years ago, he had no heart at all in this fight i dont care if he was fightin with a sore leg or ne other bull****...corrner decided he had, had enough of tyson vs kev so stopped tyson from himself

So Douglas...Evander..Lewis
vs
Banks...Cooper...Frazier...Dumb Truck Chuck.....
The men that beat tyson would easly beat the men who beat ali. with exception of douglas vs frazier, you could maybe say lewis frazier depending on wat lewis showed up, so really i would say the knock down/ chin are not bad on both parts, because before williams tyson was never down before half way through the fight...Ali went down with left hooks, and let frazier bank into his body all nite, think about tyson better head movement, feetmovement and higher work rate than frazier against a ali that wants to lay against the ropes?