Diaz is a chubby 135 pounder with no power...ultimately he will get seriously hurt against the likes of Castillo, Corrales, Lazcaqno and Diaz.

He could easily cut 5 pounds and fight at 130 and probably start knocking guys cold, plus the bigger money is there too, this is a golden opportunity-rarely do you get too move down and fight for much bigger money!

Diaz could fight Morales, Pac, MAB, Anchondo, Famouso...etc and probably have an edge because of his size...plus a fight with Morales would be a payperview fight....maybe the only payperview opportunity of his life-and all he needs to do is lose five pounds...

What do peopele think...do diaz's people need to wake up and smell the money, not too mention protect there fighter from serious injury...it's an all in one deal, money-safety or less money and death...what do you guys/gals think?

Diaz is a chubby 135 pounder with no power...ultimately he will get seriously hurt against the likes of Castillo, Corrales, Lazcaqno and Diaz.

He could easily cut 5 pounds and fight at 130 and probably start knocking guys cold, plus the bigger money is there too, this is a golden opportunity-rarely do you get too move down and fight for much bigger money!

Diaz could fight Morales, Pac, MAB, Anchondo, Famouso...etc and probably have an edge because of his size...plus a fight with Morales would be a payperview fight....maybe the only payperview opportunity of his life-and all he needs to do is lose five pounds...

What do peopele think...do diaz's people need to wake up and smell the money, not too mention protect there fighter from serious injury...it's an all in one deal, money-safety or less money and death...what do you guys/gals think?
No i disagree.What just because he's a little chubby he should move down he's got good stamina.It wouldn't be any different at 130 against the best there too fast for him.The reason why he would lose is because he would get cauht while he throws a bunch of his punches.

I'd rather get caught by Morales on payperview than I would by Diego or JL on HBO.

No i disagree.What just because he's a little chubby he should move down he's got good stamina.It wouldn't be any different at 130 against the best there too fast for him.The reason why he would lose is because he would get cauht while he throws a bunch of his punches.

I agree, he may not have alot of power, but if he applies pressure without stopping to the body, the ribs, etc.. are gonna feel it evuentally. Last night I kept wishing he'd go to the body more cause that guy had never been knocked out before, and I didnt think a head shot was gonna get the job done. So, if he had kept working that body, all night long, evuentally he may have broken a rib or two and then the fight would have been over. Just cause he doesnt have alot of power does not mean he can compete with the best of them ONE DAY..he's not ready for the likes of Corrales or Castillo yet, not in my opinion, but he's still young with plenty of time and potential.

I think if he stepped it up more he could of stopped him earlier especially when the guy was on the ropes doing nothing. When he put together 4 and 5 rapid punches he would stun or wobble Irwin but then he would step back. That's my only complaint about his performance last night.
He's not ready for Castillo or Corrales but if he keeps improving with his style he will eventually give anybody a tough time even if he doesn't have enough power to knock a guy out with one punch. I don't think his opponents should underestimate his punching power either because when he puts those combinations together they could find themselves wobbling around the ring.

I agree, he may not have alot of power, but if he applies pressure without stopping to the body, the ribs, etc.. are gonna feel it evuentally. Last night I kept wishing he'd go to the body more cause that guy had never been knocked out before, and I didnt think a head shot was gonna get the job done. So, if he had kept working that body, all night long, evuentally he may have broken a rib or two and then the fight would have been over. Just cause he doesnt have alot of power does not mean he can compete with the best of them ONE DAY..he's not ready for the likes of Corrales or Castillo yet, not in my opinion, but he's still young with plenty of time and potential.


you don't need to be a big puncher if you're landing above 30 punches per round, especially to the body. not many fighters can survive a hardcore body attack. Guys like Jirov are not big punchers but they wear their opponents down with an accumulation of punches, Diaz can do the same. i really like Diaz, but he needs better D if he's gonna try and hang with heavy hitters like Corrales, the baby bull isn't ready yet but he could be in a year or two. the kid's still young, he's nowhere near his prime yet

I'm surprised with what everyone has said...really surprised..

So all of you would rather see Juan Diaz fight Diego or JL for 150K on HBO and get his face caved in as opposed to going after a payperview fight worth a cool million vs. Morales...hmmm

The volume puncher that Diaz is makes him the slight favorite against Morales in my book...HE has no chance of winning against Corrales or Castillo...no chance!

As a young champion with 2 defenses already under his belt he is going to have to step it up against other champions or top guys like Lazcano who want a title belt...I envision him becoming a David Ried or a Fernando Vargas...HE is so young yet he is a champion which is going to lead him into deep water sooner rather than later.

I think his promoters know what they are doing with him. They know that he is not ready for Corrales or Castillo yet. I read that his next fight could be against Ebo Elder so that lets me know they are not trying to ruin him by matching him up with the fighters that he is not ready for. I also saw that he failed to make weight the first time around for this fight so maybe 130 wouldn't be easy for him to make.

I think scap makes the best case. He's a professional boxer. If he trains well, looses a few pounds, he might fair well. The weight loss isn't drastic either. And he gets to make more money.

Ebo Elder won't be an easy fight. He's not a great fighter, but that is one tough little ****er. Did you see his last fight? Face swollen up so bad he looked even more inbred than normal, beaten soundly for 12 rounds, yet still pulled out the KO in the last round.
If I were trying to prime a fighter in the lightweights, Ebo Elder is someone I would avoid just because of his toughness. He could really kill the confidence of a young fighter.

Ebo Elder won't be an easy fight. He's not a great fighter, but that is one tough little ****er. Did you see his last fight? Face swollen up so bad he looked even more inbred than normal, beaten soundly for 12 rounds, yet still pulled out the KO in the last round.
If I were trying to prime a fighter in the lightweights, Ebo Elder is someone I would avoid just because of his toughness. He could really kill the confidence of a young fighter.

I saw that, and spent the remainder of the night wondering if the praying he did after the fight was for real, or for the cameras...that bugged the hell out of me for hr's :confused: , not knowing which was the case!

Ebo Elder won't be an easy fight. He's not a great fighter, but that is one tough little ****er. Did you see his last fight? Face swollen up so bad he looked even more inbred than normal, beaten soundly for 12 rounds, yet still pulled out the KO in the last round.
If I were trying to prime a fighter in the lightweights, Ebo Elder is someone I would avoid just because of his toughness. He could really kill the confidence of a young fighter.


Are you kidding?

Elder would be a walk in the park for any top guy at 135 or 140. Yes he is tough and his fights are exciting, but they are exciting because he doesn't have the skill to seperate himself from his opponents and has to fight that way.

A win against Courtney Burton is nothing to brag about the guy is horrible especially when a fighter struggled so badly with him.

Ebo Elder is a very tough ****er as someone said earlier but he will never win a legitimate world championship...hte guy is a b level fighter at best...easy pickings for the top guys in the division, easy pickings!

I like Juan Diaz.His problem is he slaps his punches instead of the end of his fist.Diaz might have a little more power if he did use the end of his fist.

I think Diaz should move down as well. He already gets hit too much, at least if he moved down, he might face some slightly shorter opponenents with less power, however slight the difference might be, and be able to make more money fighting the big names at 130. Besides, he looked soft in there, and the Canadian punching bag just made everything look worse. Did anyone else notice that there were a lot of spots in the fight where Diaz stopped punching? I don't believe that Billy's hook was hard enough to worry Diaz, he just stepped back because he was afraid of running out of gas.

I think Diaz should move down as well. He already gets hit too much, at least if he moved down, he might face some slightly shorter opponenents with less power, however slight the difference might be, and be able to make more money fighting the big names at 130. Besides, he looked soft in there, and the Canadian punching bag just made everything look worse. Did anyone else notice that there were a lot of spots in the fight where Diaz stopped punching? I don't believe that Billy's hook was hard enough to worry Diaz, he just stepped back because he was afraid of running out of gas.


alot of spots where diaz stopped throwing punches? what the hell were you watching? how many punches do you want the kid to throw? he throws about 90 puncher per round. tell me somebody at 135 and up who throws more leather than juan?

Yeah, I know what you're saying, and I know he throws a high volume of punches any way you look at it. He just seemed like if he was in with someone that made a real effort to make a fight of it, he would probably run out of gas. It seemed like he would go all out, and then have to rest...go all out and then rest, like he was working the heavybag. So, I'm not trying to knock his punch output, he a good fighter, but IMO it seems like he's already as good as he's going to be.

I don't think I mentioned him as a possible champion, but I wouldn't put my young fighter in against him.

Yeah, Ebo's a tough guy, did he sound a little "punchy" to anyone else last night?

Yeah, Ebo's a tough guy, did he sound a little "punchy" to anyone else last night?

Ha ha, hard to tell really! He always sounds a little 'funny' to me :D

This Juan Diaz kid is pure hype, ugly as f*ck and nothing more, I give him credit for he seems to be someone w/ alot of discipline being a " college student " and a pro - fighter all at the same time. I would be more surprise if they actually put him in w/ someone that has a heartbeat, but I don't think it's gonna happen AT ALL in anytime, the kid is a local favorite and tons of people show up for his matches against inbreds and drunk farmers so why mess w/ something that works. In a way I don't think I wanna see this kid get thrown in w/ real pro fighters 'cause he'll get laid out in the worse way, his cerebrum might end up like Mesi's. What seperates Juan Diaz from the rest of us who have had some boxing experience is his dedication and deep passion for the sport. He's nothing special talent wise. I'd love to see Julio Diaz get more exposure though, now that's one hell of a fighter.

Ebo Elder won't be an easy fight. He's not a great fighter, but that is one tough little ****er. Did you see his last fight? Face swollen up so bad he looked even more inbred than normal,

LOL. That's a funny line. :p

Wow..I'm absolutely shocked at some of the posts on this thread...First let me just say that the Elder family
is a very spiritual,warm and devoted family that devote countless hours to church and community.Ebo takes
the time to go to area hospitals to visit with sick kids.He has the hart of a champion and conducts himself
like a champion should outside the ring.He's worked very hard in 04 to get where he's at.Ranked 4th by the
WBC is quite an acievement.I don't know if anybody on this thread has even boxed before but to be ranked that
high is something we can only dream of.As for Juan Diaz he's the WBA champion of the WORLD! no matter what anybody
here thinks of his talent.I look forward to the Elder-Diaz match-up.It's going too be a great nite for boxing...You know,let me just say one more thing here guy's, there is a lot of young people that use the internet to read about their heros...Remember when great hard working athletes were our Heros?

Diaz is a chubby 135 pounder with no power...ultimately he will get seriously hurt against the likes of Castillo, Corrales, Lazcaqno and Diaz.

He could easily cut 5 pounds and fight at 130 and probably start knocking guys cold, plus the bigger money is there too, this is a golden opportunity-rarely do you get too move down and fight for much bigger money!

Diaz could fight Morales, Pac, MAB, Anchondo, Famouso...etc and probably have an edge because of his size...plus a fight with Morales would be a payperview fight....maybe the only payperview opportunity of his life-and all he needs to do is lose five pounds...

What do peopele think...do diaz's people need to wake up and smell the money, not too mention protect there fighter from serious injury...it's an all in one deal, money-safety or less money and death...what do you guys/gals think?
When are people gonna learn. If you went out on the street, would 5 pounds keep you from knockin people out? No it wouldnt. It comes down to skill;, heart,& stamina. If diaz cant knock out a 135 pounder, how will he knock out a 130 pound morales, MAB, pac, any of them. They been through wars with people who hit a lot harder than him

When are people gonna learn. If you went out on the street, would 5 pounds keep you from knockin people out? No it wouldnt. It comes down to skill;, heart,& stamina. If diaz cant knock out a 135 pounder, how will he knock out a 130 pound morales, MAB, pac, any of them. They been through wars with people who hit a lot harder than him


In a street fight 5 pounds does not mean **** but in a championship prizefight those 5 pounds can make all of the difference in the world.

5 little bitty pounds is the difference between taking a left hook from Corrales and having your face caved in or taking a left hook from Marco Antonio Barerra and thinking you are in a pillow fight.

Plus with Morales and MAB you get to fight on PPV and mkae serious money...fighting Castillo or Chico lands you on HBO and you make a fraction of the purse.

5 pounds doesn't mean **** huh...hmmm

Juan should be fighting at 130

at 135 he has too much wiggle room and he uses it.. he straight fat.

I'm surprised with what everyone has said...really surprised..

So all of you would rather see Juan Diaz fight Diego or JL for 150K on HBO and get his face caved in as opposed to going after a payperview fight worth a cool million vs. Morales...hmmm
.I dont like protected fighters, the more weight the better, why strave yourself just to be a champion? The best fighters pack on weight, not lose it.

I dont like protected fighters, the more weight the better, why strave yourself just to be a champion? The best fighters pack on weight, not lose it.


What do you think of your boy Cotto? Does he starve himself? I guess you could say he packs on weight right? Where does Cotto fit in these words you speak?

Cotto is a guy that starves hismelf, cuts his weight as low as possible and when he steps in the ring he is twice the size of his opponents. Manny Steward siad that his frequent schedule allows him this luxury but it wont last long.

Iwatch, by your own logic how does Cotto fit here?

I think there is a difference between starving yourself to make weight, and just toning yourself down to a point where you are solid. Juan Diaz has some bodyfat, and he could stand to lose 5 lbs. at least. IMO that wouldn't be cheating, just fighting at his natural "in shape" weight.