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cold

02-16-2006, 11:34 AM

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The fight between Hasim Rahman and James Toney (69-4-2, 43 KOs) is fast approaching, set for March 18, yet the outcome for this bout seems almost academic at this point, if you’ve been following the latest news around. Strange as it may seem, it’s as if Hasim Rahman, who is the younger, stronger and larger man, is going to be schooled by the 37-year-old Toney, if you were to believe all the hype being strewn about.. I don’t know about you people, but from the way I see things, Toney doesn’t have a ghost of a chance against Rahman, mostly due to the long reach of 82,” which is 6 inches longer than Toney’s limited reach. However, it isn’t the height factor alone that will be the biggest issue for Toney; the main problem is the reach disadvantage, since it will be almost impossible for Toney to get inside the range of Rahman without catching something really big on the way in.

For Toney, it will be a case of biting off a little too much for him to chew, for he has never been in with a fighter even remotely as big and as powerful as Rahman (41-5-1, 33 KOs) and I fear that he’s going to find that out as soon as he gets hit with the first bone crushing right hand in the opening moments of the 1st round.

Strange as it may seem, Rahman is probably the best heavyweight in the division right now, bar none. That’s not to say that he has the best skills, because I personally feel that Wladimir Klitschko is the best in that department. However, what makes Rahman so good is his tremendous heart, including his ability to take huge shots without going down and then to come back with his own artillery. To beat him, you’ve got to have a ton of power and you have to have the desire to trade with him because he’ll test his opponent’s chin at some point in the match. I like Toney’s boxing ability; however, he can’t trade shots with a huge puncher like Rahman, which is what he will have to do if he wants to get out of this fight in one piece. No, he really has one chance, and that is to run and stay on the outside as much as possible, avoiding contact until late in the fight, hoping to tire Rahman out. However, that strategy will come up empty, as Rahman has excellent stamina and carries his power to the very end of the fight.

Toney, as of late, doesn’t even appear concerned with his upcoming bout with Rahman, as if he’s already looking past him, while mentioning Lennox Lewis as a desired future opponent, according to the latest rumor mill. There are people, perhaps a lot of them that would like nothing better to see Toney get punched around the ring by Lewis, even a 40-year old, rusty version. However, the chance of this fight ever coming true, is next to impossible, since Lewis would likely not want to step back into the ring and tarnish his reputation fighting someone as small as Toney, a fighter that it not exactly a true heavyweight in the classic mode. Nevertheless, I would really love to see this fight coming off it were possible, although I don’t give Toney even the slightest hope in getting past the 6th round before running into one of Lewis’ tremendous right hand bombs. To be honest, Toney could bob and weave as much as he wants, yet he would eventually get hit with a shot from Lewis and would end up stretched out on the canvas. No, if I were Toney, I would focus entirely on Rahman, as this could end up to be a short, brutal fight, leaving Toney wondering what happened to him as he picks himself up from the canvas after having been starched by a big right hand. :boxing:

jabsRstiff

02-16-2006, 11:35 AM

Thanks for being wrong in such big, bold, colorful, & space-consuming fashion.

Crumble

02-16-2006, 11:46 AM

lol. yeah what font size is that.

RwK

02-16-2006, 12:13 PM

yeah I read about 1/3 of the way down then had a seizure.

thats borderline unscrupulus

RwK

02-16-2006, 12:20 PM

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62960
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55146
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53292
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51877
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47927

damn that's not a very impressive resume chief.

Parody

02-16-2006, 01:20 PM

!! Mr. Soprano

02-16-2006, 01:31 PM

Leo Pradun

02-16-2006, 01:35 PM

this guy cold sounds like a complete idiot...

wmute

02-16-2006, 01:35 PM

RAESAAD

02-16-2006, 01:40 PM

Parody

02-16-2006, 01:58 PM

I think this cold guy does it on purpose, whoever he knows will lose the fight he gathers bull**** information about him to make people think that this guy is going to win, and make people lose their bets.

Konstantin

02-16-2006, 02:35 PM

Easy-E

02-16-2006, 02:37 PM

Thanks for being wrong in such big, bold, colorful, & space-consuming fashion.

i cant believe this dude is actully trying to say rahman has a good chin

-Jay-

02-16-2006, 02:56 PM

I've got a thread on this fight in fantasy betting, noone has bet a decent amount on Rahman yet, anyone want in?

lopez12

02-16-2006, 03:20 PM

Toney will get inside & roll with Rach's punches and pull out a decision
Thats why they call him "The Mongoose"

The Wire

02-16-2006, 03:25 PM

This guy clearly just goes with the underdog to try and look smart. As you can see from my sig though, picking em aint exactly my game either ha ha!

As for the fight, Rahman is not entirely clueless but he's getting there. He does have a lot of heart and a big right hand, and I give him loads of respect for being afraid of no one (Lennox Lewis, Klitschko, now Toney), but he's pretty limited really and can't hope to compete with the silky skills of my p4p king James Toney.

Undefeated

02-16-2006, 03:28 PM

This guys predictions suck! lol

I'll take a bet for toney vs rahman..

anyone?? i got toney

50 mil anyone?

cold

03-05-2006, 04:17 PM

Just like Calzaghe beat Lacy and Baldomir beat Judah-

Rahman Beats Toney

RwK

03-05-2006, 04:24 PM

Just like Calzaghe beat Lacy and Baldomir beat Judah-

Rahman Beats Toney

Wrong.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62960

Wrong.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61014

Wrong.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55146

Wrong.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53292

Wrong.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47927

Wrong.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63400

Quit being such a wrong bastard all the time.

george costanza

03-05-2006, 04:24 PM

If Toney doesn't win the heavyweight divison will be doomed forever. And for the record I expect JT to dominate he's made a living out of taking apart slow flatfooted guys like Rahman.

cold

03-05-2006, 04:26 PM

Rahman is so much bigger than Toney- so get ready.

I actually want to see the winner of this fight go against Valuev

Yaman

03-05-2006, 04:31 PM

Rahman is gonna knock this monkey out.

Im gonna make a thread about this as soon as im right :cool:

Man, im just awesome.

Floydmayweather

03-05-2006, 05:45 PM

Toney will be in better shape for this fight and he will make Rahman look real bad. Toney by ud or late ko. ;)

Lights0ut

03-05-2006, 05:46 PM

As most have pointed out cold knows nothing about the boxing game.

Hitman Homer

03-05-2006, 06:11 PM

Holy crap, this dude is going to make me rich. Knowing who's going to lose is just as good as knowing who's gonna win. And this guy doesn't know how to pick 'em. EVER. Gonna ride this gravy train straight to hell.

keystone30pack

03-06-2006, 08:29 PM

TheEvilSaint

03-06-2006, 08:31 PM

wow, cold just keeps making the dumbest predictions just for the hell of it. he predicted guinn to beat toney, for ****'s sake.

Kayo

03-06-2006, 09:26 PM

cold i hope you dont visit the casino often

cold

03-08-2006, 08:05 PM

Rahman will WIN by KO

psychopath

03-08-2006, 08:29 PM

We don't expect our picks and predictions to be 100% correct :D but this guy "cold" is a consistent loser. It's either he is doing that in purpose or he a real dumb. :p

My call? Rahman can be competitive against JT on the first 5 rounds after that, if Rahman fails to do something to hurt JT, JT will finish him off. :cool:

Katz

03-08-2006, 09:02 PM

Toney by UD :)

GattiFan

03-11-2006, 02:58 AM

I keep seeing Rahman getting outboxed for several rounds then getting his slow ass knocked clean out of the ring by Oleg Maskaev. And we all know how skillfull oleg is as a boxer. Then...there is that stunning points victory over the likes of Alfred Cole. Yea. Hes gonna out box James Toney. Right up till when the fight starts. At which point he takes a 12 round beating and not only loses the fight, but also looks so bad getting his ass handed to him it looks like he has downs syndrome. Seriously. He boxes like that kid Corkey from "Life goes on"

However...do you guys remember all those times Toney got KTFO....Oh wait...thats right...its NEVER HAPPENED.

hmm...where was I...oh Yea.....Cold. Your a retard.

cold

03-14-2006, 09:51 AM

Monte Barrett (heavyweight contender): "Rahman. Rahman's stronger. I haven't seen Toney take power like Rahman's, so. Rahman's got a good jab and a good right hand. So I'm looking for Rahman."

Harold Knight (trainer and director of boxing operations at the Great Gorge, NJ new training facility): "Well, it depends on who comes in the better shape obviously, but styles makes fights and Rahman's style is perfect for Toney. Too many people are picking Toney. I'm going with the underdog! Toney slips and slides and rolls with the punches. If Rock hits him in the arms, the hips, outmuscles him - and not load up with the big punches, it could be interesting. If Toney hurts Rock early, that could be bad for Rock. I do not know if he hits hard enough to hurt Rock. And I believe Rock won the first round by the so-called slap in Cancun."

HASIM RAHMAN: Honestly I don’t see any problem. You know, I really feel like with the way I am and my preparation there’s not a heavyweight you can put in there that could pose any problems on March 18th. I honestly am not being ****y, I’m not being overconfident. I’m trying to like expose James for the fraud that he is.

cold

03-16-2006, 12:13 AM

Anyone thinking Toney will win if way off base. Rahman will win decisively. Toney can not be overweight and expect to be competitive. If Toney lays against the ropes this fight we will probably see him with rope marks in his back from the pounding he is getting from the front and top by Rahman. :boxing:

"He will be a bloody mess in the first round if he stands in front of me," "He underestimates my power. My power is a big factor and will set the tone for this fight. Once he gets hit with it, I'm not so sure what adjustments he can make," Rahman, said on Tuesday.

Steve Nelson, longtime manager of WBC heavyweight champion Hasim Rahman. Below are his perspectives from inside the Rahman camp in advance of Saturday's title defense against James Toney.

What's up with the odds? Everybody's got Toney winning the fight.

You know something, when Rahman fought Lewis it was up 15-to-1 now it's 2 or 2.5-to-1. This is going to be easy....We like facing the odds. There's no question, I thought it would be a lot closer. I thought it would be if not even, close to even.....at least we're giving people an opportunity to make money. :boxing:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41443000/jpg/_41443892_rahman203.jpg

Piggu

03-16-2006, 12:19 AM

Go Toney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Floydmayweather

03-16-2006, 12:43 AM

Forget about it, Toney wins easy. Alright, the rock has some power but he used to be more fluent now he is always looking for the big punch which will never land. And if it does it wont bother Toney this man cant be put down from one punch, at least not from Rahman or any living fighter. Rahmans game is to fight a close inside fight, against the best inside fighter in the world. He will get beat to the punch and get countered all night long. TOney also has a great work rate for a heavy way better than the rock.

Just like Hatton beat Zoo.
PBF beat Mitchell
Wlad beat Peter
Toney embarress Rahman and wins via KO ;)

Easy-E

03-16-2006, 12:55 AM

the_truth_1984

03-16-2006, 12:56 AM

Rock's power will be too much for the former middleweight.Rahman KO 9.

JDizzle79

03-16-2006, 12:57 AM

the thing is, toney lets his hands fly like a big fat bloated roberto duran. no way rahman can keep up with this counter puncher

Floydmayweather

03-16-2006, 12:59 AM

Rock does not have more power than Holyfeild.

cold

03-16-2006, 09:43 AM

As a member of James Toney's promotional team tries to link us up, I can hear the boxer chirping away on the other line, "G'day mate! G'day mate!", in a cod Australian accent.

While Toney's grasp of geography is a little sketchy, the effect is disarming, like being sent to the headmaster's office and finding him singing along to a Spice Girls CD.

Toney is a former street hustler with a sweet line in trash talk ("Nigel Benn's momma is like the Loch Ness Monster") who once threatened his former manager during a live radio interview.

British fight fans will remember Toney interrupting Jonathan Ross' chat show many moons ago to sling barbs at Benn and Chris Eubank. Even Eubank's poor mother got caught in the crossfire.

Toney's speciality is the press-conference fracas and he has been known to chase impertinent journalists out of his gym.

When it comes to Toney, a good change of pace can be more useful for us scribes than good shorthand and a sharp pencil.

But journalists who have got close to Toney, who challenges Hasim Rahman for the WBC heavyweight crown on Saturday, tell of an intelligent, funny and generous man.

And behind the anarchic exterior, the 37-year-old from Ann Arbor, Michigan, is deadly serious about his chosen vocation.

I've fought the best of each division I've been in and nobody's ever beaten James Toney - I've only ever beaten myself

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]"I've been put in the heavyweight division to make it shine again like the diamonds I'm wearing," the former three-weight world champion told BBC Sport.

"The heavyweight scene is a shambles but I'm going to clean it up. The world's in my hands right now and I'm going to take advantage of it."

Toney has been here before. Last May, he outclassed John Ruiz to claim the WBA heavyweight title only to be stripped and fined after flunking a drugs test.

But Toney, who denies any wrongdoing, was unbowed, and the manner in which he outboxed Ruiz has strengthened his belief that he can dominate the division.

"Ruiz was scared to death of me and I didn't let him hold like he does to everyone else," said Toney. "I beat Ruiz with one arm and only three weeks training.

"For this fight with Rahman, I've had a full camp for the first time in two years and everything is going good. I'm excited about bringing the heavyweight division back to life."

Toney has ridden out adversity countless times before in a professional career spanning 18 years and 76 fights, a tally almost unheard of for a top-flight boxer in the modern game.
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James Toney (right) was battered by Roy Jones in 1994
His rise was meteoric, rumbling the previously-unbeaten Michael Nunn as a 22-year-old in 1991 to land the IBF middleweight crown, before stepping up to super middle and destroying IBF title-holder Iran Barkley in 1993.

Then came the event that temporarily tripped the fuse of the man they call "Lights Out".

In November 1994, he was handed his first defeat in 47 fights by Roy Jones Jr. Toney then lost his next fight to Montell Griffin.

It seemed the Jones reverse had divested Toney of his spirit. Many believed he was finished.

"Roy Jones caught me at the right time," he reflected. "I didn't prepare properly.

"But it shows you the character of Roy Jones that he didn't give me a rematch because he knew I would have knocked him out."

Toney did not fight for nearly two years between 1997 and 1999. His former manager, trainer and wife were tossed aside like the remains of the countless takeaways he was consuming.

Yet, under the tutelage of new trainer Freddie Roach, Toney smashed his way back into the world's consciousness by snatching the IBF cruiserweight belt from the well-regarded Vassiliy Jirov in 2003 and beating up an over-the-hill Evander Holyfield later the same year.

By his own admission, Toney can look like the Pillsbury Doughboy as a heavyweight.

Ruiz was given a painful lesson by Toney last year
Usually resplendent in a three-piece suit, with bald pate and cigar stuffed in the corner of his mouth, there is an air of Winston Churchill about Toney.

But the threads are all part of his retro image, and Toney revels in his role as an "old school" avenger who ducks no-one ("I don't even turn down my collar").

Toney's style is redolent of his long-gone idols, men like 1950s heavyweight champion Ezzard Charles ("Who else has been great in every division he's fought in?").

"I could have fought in any era and a lot of the old warriors feel I'm like an old-school fighter," he continued.

"I've fought the best in each division I've been in and nobody's ever beaten James Toney, I've only ever beaten myself.

"My only regret in boxing is that the best fighters won't fight each other. I want to make that happen so that the fans keep coming back. I want to do the best for boxing.

"Last year I had a goal. I wanted to fight Rahman, Lennox Lewis, Vitali Klitschko and Wladimir Klitschko.

"I respect Lewis, he's a good fighter. But he's not a great fighter. I'm a great fighter. And James Toney don't worry about nobody."

At that point, I am tempted to say "so that's no worries, then, mate" in my best Crocodile Dirs accent, but why complicate things?

cold

03-18-2006, 11:45 AM

I made this prediction on February 16 - Rahman Wins

900,000,000 points on Rahman

cold

03-18-2006, 10:39 PM

Rahman is Pounding Toney :)

cold

03-18-2006, 10:41 PM

Rahman is pounding that "Tub of Goo" :p

FibreOptic

03-18-2006, 10:50 PM

I hope they don't stop this due to a cut.

cold

03-18-2006, 11:30 PM

TheEvilSaint

03-18-2006, 11:30 PM

RwK

03-18-2006, 11:31 PM

Well.. judges stole the fight as usual.. No Draw here...Rahman won but as usual the money $$$ is in the draw.

Official Scores were 117-111, 114-114, 114-114

117-111 for Rahman at least shows who really won

Rahman Pounds Toney Wins by KO- prediction

Thread title........Far from it.

drez24

03-18-2006, 11:43 PM

Well.. judges stole the fight as usual.. No Draw here...Rahman won but as usual the money $$$ is in the draw.

Official Scores were 117-111, 114-114, 114-114

117-111 for Rahman at least shows who really won

Homey, nobody cares about your predictions. Stop taking up space by making bull**** threads about it, especially when they are so painfully wrong so often.

187tek9

03-18-2006, 11:44 PM

anybody got this fight 2 watch...heard it was a classic!

TheEvilSaint

03-18-2006, 11:46 PM

anybody got this fight 2 watch...heard it was a classic!
whoever told you it was a classic needs to be slapped and shot.

this fight sucked, as did the decision and the performances on both fighters parts.

cold

03-19-2006, 12:06 AM

Lol at least one judge agreed that Rahman won the fight. :)

Rahman Pounded Toney but it was no KO though

Yaman

03-19-2006, 11:16 AM

Rahman is gonna knock this monkey out.

Im gonna make a thread about this as soon as im right :cool:

Man, im just awesome.

Look at my post. This was days ago and i was right..im just awesome :cool: :cool: :cool: