Calzaghe advantages -

Hes a better inside fighter than Lacy. He has fast, tight hooks on the inside and his key to victory would be infighting. Calzaghe would land first and stun Lacy enough to tame him from throwing bombs.

Calzaghe has said in the past that squat, come forward fighters would be easiest to beat for him because he can pick them off with fast combinations. Lacy is a squat, come forward fighter.

People say he "slaps" and so doesnt have power, but Calzaghes "slaps" with the palm are more dangerous than you think, if he hits the jaws it stuns, and puts load on the neck. Theres a good reason why that is forbidden.

When asked about his punching technique, Calzaghe said he does it for speed, and to overwhelm his opponents. But he said if you watch most of his knockouts, he throws alot of punches as fast as he can that look like slaps but he will throw a power shot or two in the flurry too. So I checked this out and he is right, the punches that look like slaps are to get the fighter covering up or defending himself and there isnt much power behind them and then he throws his power shots normally as a counter shot as the opponent opens up to try and throw a punch back at him.


Calzaghe disadvantages -

When he fought well, he used to come down to the late 150s/early 160s before building back up before the fight. But lately it is a real struggle for him to weigh as low as 170 on the morning of the weigh in and so he does not have the great power he used to have in the 1990s because hes cutting weight instead of using what was his secret tactic for power which was building it back up.


Lacy advantages -

He has a longer reach than Calzaghe, a two inch reach advantage and likes that room to get more momentum into his shots.

Lacy needs to use his jab, because if you see Lacys jab it hits as hard as a power shot when he uses it.

Jeff is very tenacious and actually increases his pressure throughout the fight. If your favoring Lacy it should be primarily because he consistently improves pressure and delivers more consistent power shots throughout the fight.

Lacy isnt a one punch knockout artist, but he is very heavy handed which will probably test Calzaghes heart more than ever.


Lacy disadvantages -

Lacy is not a young prospect, hes 29 years old. Hes old. He doesnt have the great advantage in youth that everybody is claiming and is probably already past his peak. The very peak of his powers was probably the Robin Reid fight and Calzaghe has twice as much experience.

He gets hit more than he should but his chin is solid.

Some of his punches are a little wide at times.


I hope Jeff wins I like him. But I do have my doubts.

I just have to favor Calzaghe, Im afraid.

One thing I hope Lacy will do is to throw punches in the clinch. Calzaghe always does, but in Lacys fight with Reid he was passive and waited for the referee to stop the clinch.

You sure he's a better inside fighter? I have a feeling he will hold when he gets close to Lacy. Or atleast after he feels Lacys power he will begin to hold

Very good fair observations of both fighters IMO.......Lacy by KO thats my story and I am sticking to it. :boxing:

I can't wait for the fight, I still think Joe by UD unless he gets knocked out which is a possibility.

Calzaghe has looked a shadow of his former self in his last three fights, he will lose. Probably Lacy TKO1 Calzaghe.

"I'll fight him in-close, punch for punch if that's what it takes." - Joe Calzaghe quote from the web address below


here's the address:
www. b o x i n g t a l k .com/pag/article6597.html

Type the above address in your explorer bar (without the spaces) for Calzaghe interview.

lmao at u saying hes past his peak and old. the man is not young, but in NO way is her old. and he is STILL getting better IMO, technique wise. his jabbing and defense has relly improved since early in his career. have u seen him fight before and after the reid fight?


GO LACY!!!

lmao at u saying hes past his peak and old. the man is not young, but in NO way is her old. and he is STILL getting better IMO, technique wise. his jabbing and defense has relly improved since early in his career. have u seen him fight before and after the reid fight?


GO LACY!!!

you back lacy, but u are very fair in your assessment of calzaghe.

i have seen more of calzaghe than i have lacy so naturally my instincts are going with joe
so my prediction is calzaghe with late ko

calzaghe is old and overrated, he'll put up a good fight but lef hook stops him late. the exchanges in the early rounds when both guys are fresh will be awesome

why don't we debate the Lewis-Bowe fight while we're at it???

THIS FIGHT WON'T HAPPEN

The original poster is absolutely right about Lacy's age and he won't be getting much better. Many people forget that he is the same age as Floyd Mayweather yet no one is talking about Floyd 'improving'.

Lacy isn't as polished as Calzaghe and he doesn't have the big fight experience that Calzaghe's got (although he hasn't had many big fights). I think Calzaghe wins. Joe throws a lot of in-tight hooks and can mix his game up a little. Lacy, on the other hand, throws wide looping punches and will get caught by a good puncher like Calzaghe. Even with quicker handspeed, Lacy will be shocked the same way Quarry shocked Shavers. A bold prediction on my part, but I'm pretty sure of it.

"I've fought both and I can tell you, Calzaghe's hand speed is far superior to Lacy's," Reid told the Sun. "Joe will also be much too strong for Lacy. I was surprised how I could easily push Lacy around the ring. For all his reputation, Lacy is nowhere near as strong as Joe and will get beat inside the distance."

Anyone elses opinions?

The original poster is absolutely right about Lacy's age and he won't be getting much better. Many people forget that he is the same age as Floyd Mayweather yet no one is talking about Floyd 'improving'.

Lacy isn't as polished as Calzaghe and he doesn't have the big fight experience that Calzaghe's got (although he hasn't had many big fights). I think Calzaghe wins. Joe throws a lot of in-tight hooks and can mix his game up a little. Lacy, on the other hand, throws wide looping punches and will get caught by a good puncher like Calzaghe. Even with quicker handspeed, Lacy will be shocked the same way Quarry shocked Shavers. A bold prediction on my part, but I'm pretty sure of it.

"I've fought both and I can tell you, Calzaghe's hand speed is far superior to Lacy's," Reid told the Sun. "Joe will also be much too strong for Lacy. I was surprised how I could easily push Lacy around the ring. For all his reputation, Lacy is nowhere near as strong as Joe and will get beat inside the distance."
Reid only bashes Lacy in the media, because he got KTFO by Lacy, and Lacy's an American....

it's just like how Riddick Bowe never mentions Golota as one of his toughet opponents, because Golota's European....

Reid's comments only have to do w/ nationality, not talent

plus, who cares what Reid thinks? He never beat a quality opponent in his entire career

Reid only bashes Lacy in the media, because he got KTFO by Lacy, and Lacy's an American....

it's just like how Riddick Bowe never mentions Golota as one of his toughet opponents, because Golota's European....

Reid's comments only have to do w/ nationality, not talent

plus, who cares what Reid thinks? He never beat a quality opponent in his entire career
He counter-punched Henry Wharton to pieces when nobody gave him a chance beforehand.

And Henry makes mincemeat of Lacy seven nights a week.

He counter-punched Henry Wharton to pieces when nobody gave him a chance beforehand.

And Henry makes mincemeat of Lacy seven nights a week.
Henry who???

oh some Euro top 50 scrub, I'm assuming

It cracks me up when Euro fans think that guys like Collins, Nardiello, Calzaghe, etc etc, could compete with cats like Roy Jones and Jeff Lacy

keep dreamin kid

Henry who???

oh some Euro top 50 scrub, I'm assuming

It cracks me up when Euro fans think that guys like Collins, Nardiello, Calzaghe, etc etc, could compete with cats like Roy Jones and Jeff Lacy

keep dreamin kid
Henry Wharton was #1 contender all the time, and people did everything they could to avoid him. Many people were tipping him to beat Benn, and many people were tipping him to beat Eubank. If Henry came along five years later, he would be long-reigning undisputed super-middleweight champion right now.

As for that moaning tosser Nardiello, why mention him alongside Calzaghe?

As for mentioning Lacy alongside Jones Jr and Calzaghe, I think I'm gonna puke :confused:

Lacy is not a young prospect, hes 29 years old. Hes old. He doesnt have the great advantage in youth that everybody is claiming and is probably already past his peak.

This makes no sense to me. Since when is 29 old? Past his peak? Since when do you judge whether a fighter is "past his peak" based on his age? Between the two, Lacy has youth on his side, this isn't up for debate.

so I guess his nickname was Henry "woulda coulda shoulda" Wharton


and I PUKE when Joey the Phony Clazone is mentioned along with anyone who can actually FIGHT

the guy has zero quality wins vs. zero world class fighters

period

this kind of reminds me of benn vs. mcclellan nobody gave benn a chance personally i'm from the u.s. and i hope calzage wins

It is quite similar actually, because Benn looked really really lacklustre against Giminez and everybody said he was washed-up and should just retire while he could and go out as undefeated WBC champ (but, that wasn't Nigel Benn). McClellan on the other hand was looking seemingly invincible, with so many easy 1st-round KO's, and coming off that chilling 93-second demolition of Julian Jackson in Las Vegas. Everybody was saying that McClellan's only weakness was having to drop huge ammounts of weight to make 160, but moving upto 168 everybody said that his power and stamina would be frighteningly better.

Calzaghe has looked a shadow of his former self in his last three fights, but I wouldn't exactly put Lacy in McClellan's class! Lol!
(neither would I put a totally shot Robin Reid or a totally shot Scott Pemberton in the same class as John Mugabi or Julian Jackson).

I think most reasoned posts I've read on here agree that a prime Clazaghe would have too much for Lacy. But I don't think there's much chance of a prime Calzaghe turning up in a few weeks. I've gone for Lacy TKO 8, though I might hedge this once I've seen the sort of shape and mentality Calzaghe is in.

Has Calzaghe released any training pics, would be interesting to see what sort of condition he's getting in.

I think that this is a fight of the year candidate. I'm a die-hard Lacy fan, but I'm not gonna count Calzaghe out. He has some of the fastest combos I've ever seen from a Super-Middleweight, and is a great champ, lack of strong competition aside. However; even though "Left Hook" is 29 years old, he only has 21 pro fights under his belt, and I think he will peak in 2 or 3 years. I foresee Lacy winning by late stoppage, and gaining the knowledge and experience he needs to become a top 5 P4P guy in the next couple of years. Too many are writing off Calzaghe, but I don't think Lacy is taking him as lightly as he appears to be. Jeff will come in in great shape, with a good strategy, and should pick up a huge win. I can definitely respect any prediction in this fight, because it really is an intriguing matchup.

Calzaghe would stand much more chance of beating Lacy if the fight took place at 175, because he's been Really struggling to make 168 these last few years (and would even struggle to make 175!). At 175, Calzaghe knocks him out.

Calzaghe would stand much more chance of beating Lacy if the fight took place at 175, because he's been Really struggling to make 168 these last few years (and would even struggle to make 175!). At 175, Calzaghe knocks him out.

no way would joe ko lacy at 175.

no way would joe ko lacy at 175.
Your joking right?

Calzaghe has no chance agaisnt that left hook

I'll Put points on it.

Calzaghe has no chance agaisnt that left hook

I'll Put points on it.
Calzaghe will destroy Lacy :boxing:

a prime Clazaghe would have too much for Lacy.
That's an understatement..

http://archive.thisisyork.co.uk/2004/2/26/251296.html :)

http://archive.thisisyork.co.uk/2004/2/26/251296.html :)

Classic Juy.

you back lacy, but u are very fair in your assessment of calzaghe.

if thats sarcasm, i dont no wat u mean b/c i dont think ive ever relly trashed him, or under-rated him

if it isnt, than thank u, i try to stay away from nuthugging or being biased

If Calz is at his best,he beats the Lacy that fought Reid atleast(that's all I seen of Lacy). Reid look nothing short of disgraceful against that Serdjane guy,and Reid is considered Lacy's best win right? Even in his 'prime',Reid's only decent win was Wharton. But for the Robin Reid fight Wharton was abit shot,suffered w/ weight,suffered w/ ringrust,and Wharton winning the fight before he got his nose busted which meant he could'nt breath through it. That loser Vincenzo Nardiello was beating Reid in Reid's 'prime' before he had a head fit and quit like he did against Benn. The only decent thing about Reid was his physique,without his physique he wouldn't of had so many admirers. and Reid is supposed to be Lacy's best win,seriously?

http://archive.thisisyork.co.uk/2004/2/26/251296.html :)
Classic,Juy. I have to say,I picked Wharton to beat Benn. I saw Benn go tooth and nail with domestic brawler 'the English Rocky' Lou Gent,who had that toe to toe drunken streetfight in a boxing ring with Wharton(though generally was'nt as good as Wharton and got his face smashed in that night). When Benn and Wharton were matched,fireworks were expected. Here were two guys who could really bang. Most of us thought that it would come down to who wanted it most(Wharton hungrier) or who had the most solid chin(Wharton fresher,Benn rocked badly against Galvano and Gent). The fight is memorable though for an almost flawless performance from Benn,Nigel suprised us all by outboxing Wharton and keeping his cool for every second of every round. Who would of ever thought that Nigel Benn of all people would turn down a war and try to box somebody? It was a breath of fresh air watching that fight. Nigel was brilliant,and continued to outbox Wharton through the immense pain of two busted kidneys. He really used his head,it was wonderful to see Benn of all people perform like that.

As for Henry Wharton,he was'nt exactly blessed with skills. But he was a slugger who was as brave as they come and when he was 'on' he was an exciting puncher who did'nt take a backward step for anybody. But when he was 'off'(Carr,Gent,Walker,Smith,Nizard,Thornberry,Rei d) he could really look quite bad. He was famous for his left hook that could take anybody down if he landed it right. Most of his opponents were just trying to survive after one round(apart from the better opponents such as Benn,Eubank,Galvano,Nardiello,Reid).

If Calz is at his best,he beats the Lacy that fought Reid atleast(that's all I seen of Lacy). Reid look nothing short of disgraceful against that Serdjane guy,and Reid is considered Lacy's best win right? Even in his 'prime',Reid's only decent win was Wharton. But for the Robin Reid fight Wharton was abit shot,suffered w/ weight,suffered w/ ringrust,and Wharton winning the fight before he got his nose busted which meant he could'nt breath through it. That loser Vincenzo Nardiello was beating Reid in Reid's 'prime' before he had a head fit and quit like he did against Benn. The only decent thing about Reid was his physique,without his physique he wouldn't of had so many admirers. and Reid is supposed to be Lacy's best win,seriously?

lacy didnt just beat reid though. he dominated him and put him down for the first career. followed by his 2nd 3rd and 4th time being down

Your joking right?

what makes you say this!?!
you just said joe has little to no chance against lacy now, and 7 pounds wont make the difference. lacy vs joe now at any weight is lacys victory

I know,but it was no suprise that a guy with a reputation as a powerful puncher like Lacy did that to Reid if you just watch how poor Reid's timing,defence and everything was against that Serdjane guy a few months earlier. It was sad to see,so when I heard he for some reason got another title shotI knew that this world champion would have to be absolute trash not to beat Reid up. Lacy was'nt trash so he beat him up as expected.

People talk about Lacy flooring Reid a few times but Reid had'nt been in with a decent puncher other than Wharton(who did'nt managed to land his famous left hook with venom on Reid),with Calz ofcourse fighting with hand injuries against Reid. I say that Calz flooring Eubank the way he did is even more impressive than Lacy flooring Reid. Eubank has taken bombs from single shot ko punchers like Benn and Carl Thompson but stayed on his feet,Calz though almost took his head off straight away.

if thats sarcasm, i dont no wat u mean b/c i dont think ive ever relly trashed him, or under-rated him

if it isnt, than thank u, i try to stay away from nuthugging or being biased

It's not sarcasm.

Lacy has enough power to end this fight before 12. Calzaghe is very skilled but I think Lacy will come away with the undisputed super middleweight championship.

Lacey Is Way Out Of His Depth Here. This Is Joe Calzaghe For ****sake. Lacey Is No Better Than All The Other Loud Mouth Americans Like Sheika, Brewer, Mitchell They Were All Supposed To Beat Joe But Ended Up Eating Humble Pie

As Far As Im Concerned Lacey Only Has A Punchers Chance, You Need To Be A Retard To Say Otherwise

your not really impartial though are you, and Lacy is better than Sheika,Brewer and Mitchell and is the number 1 super middleweight in the world right now. I think Joe will win its going to be an amazing fight, JC is going to have to ship some bombs from Lacey though, Lacy has more than a punchers chance that being said the only way Lacy wins is by knockout because Joe will win most of the rounds.

Lacey Isnt As Good As Brewer Or Mitchell You Fool, He Was Getting Beat Up By A Shot Sheika Where Joe Beat Up A Fresh Sheika

Lol This Is A Mismatch, You Wait And See

have you got **** in your eyes?

i like Lacy in this fight becos of his body attack, JC dieting & strippin weight off wont handle the body attack. he was really hurt by Mitchells body shots remember, & JCs dietin even more now & strippin even more weight now. fight stopped on three knockdown rule maybe, 2nd round.

henry Wharton was just a limited slugger with a big left hook. i got hold of some british boxing tapes from the early 90's & i saw Wharton go 50/50 with poor fighters like Slugger O'Toole and Lou Gent, actually O'Toole (otherwise known as fidel castro Smith) was robbed i thought & deserved atleast a draw, frank Bruno and Harry Carpenter were commentating & they thought O'Toole/smith should of won. the fight with Smith/OToole was held at Leeds united's Elland Road football stadium (boxrec got that wrong) & there were even some boos for wharton,

Wharton only ever had a punchers chance against any body. i was at the Eubank fight with my older bro at the G-mex & i just remember Chris made Wharton look like a novice,

The fact is, if u could go 12 rounds with Wharton then you beat him. robin Reid was told that if he took Wharton 12 rounds then he'd win, simple as that. not many predicted Reid would beat Wharton but that was being dumb as **** because if Reid could go 12 rounds then he'd win. Wharton just couldnt box. Reid won almost every round against Wharton and i dont believe that bull**** that Wharton couldnt breath properly. he was a overrated slugger, take away his left hook & he wouldnt of reached world level.

& goodnight.

Reid won almost every round against Wharton and i dont believe that bull**** that Wharton couldnt breath properly.
Wharton's corner said that his nose was busted after eight rounds.

I had Wharton 4-3 ahead after seven rounds.

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Lacey Isnt As Good As Brewer Or Mitchell You Fool, He Was Getting Beat Up By A Shot Sheika Where Joe Beat Up A Fresh Sheika

Lol This Is A Mismatch, You Wait And See

lacy beat sheika. wtf are you talking about??
he also ko'd the guy who beat him in twice in 2 rounds.
joe has yet to fight an above average opponent in his entire career

joe has yet to fight an above average opponent in his entire career

Eubank? Lacy definetely hasnt though.

Neither man has ever faced anyone above average in all honesty - Eubank was average by the time Joe fought him. As you say, Crumble, Lacy hasnt either. Pemberton against Manfredo jr proved he wasnt up to much. It's an interesting fight.

you can sum this fight up easily, lacy is on the up, calzaghe is on the slide. calzaghe slaps and gets hand injuries when he does it, lacy's power and pressure will win the fight.

Jeff will get tagged a lot I think, but he does have a great chin. I see him wearing Joe down and winning by a vicious KO in probrally the 9th or 10th round--- I know it's gonna be a great fight----

Jeff will get tagged a lot I think, but he does have a great chin. I see him wearing Joe down and winning by a vicious KO in probrally the 9th or 10th round--- I know it's gonna be a great fight----
I really don't see how this fight lasts 9 or 10 rounds, sorry. That's a heck of a long time when you've got two guys like these trying to take eachothers head off from the off.

you can sum this fight up easily, lacy is on the up, calzaghe is on the slide. calzaghe slaps and gets hand injuries when he does it, lacy's power and pressure will win the fight.
That's a good point actually, if Calzaghe hits Lacy as hard as he can then he's probably going to break his hand!

That's a good point actually, if Calzaghe hits Lacy as hard as he can then he's probably going to break his hand!


how many alternate names do you have juyjuy? you make a point with one of them and then use 2 or 3 other alts to back you up, they are all you!!!! when Lacy kayo's calzaghe, then will you give him his respect?