Apparently Hatton is ducking Mayweather, right?

If that is so lets make this a bit more attractive... perhaps we could have a 5% gain of the purse in favour of Mayweather, an American ref of his choice of the boards choice, and at least 1 American judge...

We hold it in the MEN Arena in Manchester, which I believe has a larger capacity than all of the Vegas venues and possibly even MSG....

We stick it on PPV and the fighters will receive the biggest pay day of their lives, and everyone's happy, including the fans.

Where is the objection?

hatton isnt ducking mayweather, he said he wants a few more fights before him. he said he wanted to fight floyd, but just not right now. it doesnt make sense to have them fight in england while hatton has signed a three fight deal in the united states

hatton isnt ducking mayweather, he said he wants a few more fights before him. he said he wanted to fight floyd, but just not right now. it doesnt make sense to have them fight in england while hatton has signed a three fight deal in the united states
Well I hear from a lot of people on these boards that Hatton is ducking Mayweather, and ducked him just after the KT fight... :confused:

3 fight deal in America? No problem. We have Baldomir-Gatti-Castillo, then a showdown in England against Mayweather by which time Hatton has an American fan base and this PPV is raking in an absolute fortune...

I still dont see a real objection...

the objection is that floyd wont fight in manchester. or any part of the uk

the objection is that floyd wont fight in manchester. or any part of the uk
then Mayweather is ducking Hatton, case closed.

then Mayweather is ducking Hatton, case closed.

hahahaahha are you serious right now?

hahahaahha are you serious right now?
I will quote you again.

floyd wont fight in manchester. or any part of the uk

Yes I am serious. Yes that is ducking.

Mayweather isn't ducking Hatton and nor is Hatton ducking him. They are not gonna fight at the momment because of the tv companies. If hatton signed with HBO the fight would happen within a year!

there are reasons floyd wont fight hatton in the uk and you know what they are. HATTON has been the one to publicly state that he does not want to fight floyd right now, and floyd said he would take hatton on as long as its not in the uk becuase the ref's and judges would suck hattons nuts (those are not floyds words)

If this fight ever happens, it will surely be in Madison Square Garden. Both fighters love that place. And I'm gonna be there ringside(1 hour commute :D).

Mayweather isn't ducking Hatton and nor is Hatton ducking him. They are not gonna fight at the momment because of the tv companies. If hatton signed with HBO the fight would happen within a year!
My case isnt about Hatton fighting in America, its about Hatton fighting in England.

Hatton and Floyd would sell-out the biggest soccer stadium in England 100k fans easy. Both get Hatton gets paid 20 mill and Mayweather 15 mill (Hatton the obvious reason for the sellout)
Can u really blame Hatton for staying in England? No one knows or cares about him over here. In ENgland they love him and sell out all his fights

Hatton and Floyd would sell-out the biggest soccer stadium in England 100k fans easy. Both get Hatton gets paid 20 mill and Mayweather 15 mill (Hatton the obvious reason for the sellout)
Can u really blame Hatton for staying in England? No one knows or cares about him over here. In ENgland they love him and sell out all his fights

no i cant blame him for fighting in england, but many fighters are skeptical to fight him there after the zoo fight. also, thers no way in hell that you can give hatton less of a purse than floyd if the fight is in england, bc floyd would simply not take it

well no hatton aint ducking.
he wants more fights/belts before pretty boy fights him.
put it this way, noone wants a loss on their record right!
why not build up the wins before a loss, even a loss can turn around a career and ruin a boxer.
yes hatton is scared or worried.
no he is not ducking, just waiting for the right time.
"why hurry your shots when you can wait and line them up?"

there are reasons floyd wont fight hatton in the uk and you know what they are. HATTON has been the one to publicly state that he does not want to fight floyd right now, and floyd said he would take hatton on as long as its not in the uk becuase the ref's and judges would suck hattons nuts (those are not floyds words)
5% gain of the purse in favour of Mayweather, an American judge of his choice of the boards choice, and at least 1 American judge...
It really doesnt get any more simple than this...

If Mayweather was the best in the world a venue wouldnt matter to him... the tables have turned just in this thread alone. A Mayweather fan telling me he wont fight Hatton in the UK... if he was "by far the best" he wouldnt even need to worry about appearing in a controversial decision. He is the best ever, no-one comes close to him. I have read on numerous occasions that Hatton wont lay a glove on him (by members of this board) and that Mayweather will make him quit within 6...

All of a sudden this can only be done in America, what a ****ing joke... get the **** off the bandwagon and realise that Mayweather is not untouchable, not invincible, and has done his fair share in ducking. Simple as that.

Hatton won't ever be able to fight at the MEN arena again unless he fights for Frank Warren again.

well no hatton aint ducking.
he wants more fights/belts before pretty boy fights him.
put it this way, noone wants a loss on their record right!
why not build up the wins before a loss, even a loss can turn around a career and ruin a boxer.
yes hatton is scared or worried.
no he is not ducking, just waiting for the right time.
"why hurry your shots when you can wait and line them up?"
I see Hatton's belt hunting as a shutting down method. In the end I see Mayweather-Hatton happening, but after Hatton has closed down all the other belts and dominates at least 4-5 of them. Thus making an offer to Floyd irresistable. Also for publicity, which is playing a 40% role in the whole belt collecting mania.

Hatton won't ever be able to fight at the MEN arena again unless he fights for Frank Warren again.
Why is this?

It really doesnt get any more simple than this...

If Mayweather was the best in the world a venue wouldnt matter to him... the tables have turned just in this thread alone. A Mayweather fan telling me he wont fight Hatton in the UK... if he was "by far the best" he wouldnt even need to worry about appearing in a controversial decision. He is the best ever, no-one comes close to him. I have read on numerous occasions that Hatton wont lay a glove on him (by members of this board) and that Mayweather will make him quit within 6...

All of a sudden this can only be done in America, what a ****ing joke... get the **** off the bandwagon and realise that Mayweather is not untouchable, not invincible, and has done his fair share in ducking. Simple as that.

its not just a controversial decision, its tactics that are ILLEGAL, that are allowed without penalty. also, in england, the doctor and ref would be less likely to stop the fight because of cuts, which is where floyd has a great chance to stop hatton. its happend before and it shouldnt be allowed to happen again.
i never said floyd was untouchable or invincible, but he hasnt done much ducking at all.
cool off

its not just a controversial decision, its tactics that are ILLEGAL, that are allowed without penalty. also, in england, the doctor and ref would be less likely to stop the fight because of cuts, which is where floyd has a great chance to stop hatton. its happend before and it shouldnt be allowed to happen again.
i never said floyd was untouchable or invincible, but he hasnt done much ducking at all.
cool off
I see you ignored my re-quote. So I will re-quote the re-quote and highlight the main points.

5% gain of the purse in favour of Mayweather, an American ref of his choice or the boards choice, and at least 1 American judge...

I see you ignored my re-quote. So I will re-quote the re-quote and highlight the main points.

and i said its not about the decision, its about the ring doctor and ref in this situation

and i said its not about the decision, its about the ring doctor and ref in this situation
Ahh so you want the fight to be stopped prematurely in America so Mayweather can take the win and the belts?

Ok then...

Did I mention that America is better for the officiating of a boxing match? :rolleyes:

Ahh so you want the fight to be stopped prematurely in America so Mayweather can take the win and the belts?

Ok then...

Did I mention that America is better for the officiating of a boxing match? :rolleyes:

did i say that??
no

all you have to do is watch the zoo fight and you lose all credibility here

I see Hatton's belt hunting as a shutting down method. In the end I see Mayweather-Hatton happening, but after Hatton has closed down all the other belts and dominates at least 4-5 of them. Thus making an offer to Floyd irresistable. Also for publicity, which is playing a 40% role in the whole belt collecting mania.
na come on man, did holyfield expect to get world records n ****e for his belts, one thing a boxer wants , to be champ and to have a belt one day, why not have more than one, why not be champ 3 or 4 times over?

did i say that??
no

all you have to do is watch the zoo fight and you lose all credibility here
All I have to do is watch the Zoo fight and I lose credibility?

Ok then Ill watch that fight, then ill go and watch Tyson-Holyfield II and Bernard Hopkins career, which is more than one fight, and would mean that in fact you lose credibility.

Also you did say that here:

in england, the doctor and ref would be less likely to stop the fight because of cuts, which is where floyd has a great chance to stop hatton. its happend before and it shouldnt be allowed to happen again.
If the fighter can go on, then there is no reason why the fight should be stopped. You are hoping that Hatton gets a cut in America and the fight gets stopped for your boy Mayweather. But Mayweather is the best in the world... surely he has plan A,B and C where if the cuts dont happen it will be KO or points...

Did I mention that Floyd Sr. is the best trainer ever? :confused:

Just Sit Back And Wait For The Bout To Happen Man, In The Long Run Its All You Can Do!

in england hatton is less likely to get called out on his roughhousing, and you cant deny hatton fights a little dirty. pbf wants a clean fight (i figure) which is why he wants him to come to america.

Just Sit Back And Wait For The Bout To Happen Man, In The Long Run Its All You Can Do!
Ok...

In England? There is no problem with England whatsoever. Its Hatton versus the greatest fighter ever to live. The land which they fight on shouldnt matter, but apparently it does. Apparently if its America then Mayweather wins, and if its England then he has "less of a chance"....

So Floyd's greatness is all because he hasnt ventured outside of the US? Ahhhh, ok, its all starting to make sense now.

(Hence forth Mayweather-Castillo I, and the PBF nuthuggers curl up into a little ball).

All I have to do is watch the Zoo fight and I lose credibility?

Ok then Ill watch that fight, then ill go and watch Tyson-Holyfield II and Bernard Hopkins career, which is more than one fight, and would mean that in fact you lose credibility.

Also you did say that here:


If the fighter can go on, then there is no reason why the fight should be stopped. You are hoping that Hatton gets a cut in America and the fight gets stopped for your boy Mayweather. But Mayweather is the best in the world... surely he has plan A,B and C where if the cuts dont happen it will be KO or points...

Did I mention that Floyd Sr. is the best trainer ever? :confused:


i dont care if the fight happens in the usa or in africa or in south america or in australia or in any part of europe. i think floyd wins everywhere. BUT floyd doesnt want to risk going to england and i cant blame him.
the hatton zoo fight was the single worst referring job i have ever seen in my life.
dont tell me i am hoping for, either. i THINK hatton will get stopped on cuts because he has a habit for getting severly cut and swelled. its called a prediction.

in england hatton is less likely to get called out on his roughhousing, and you cant deny hatton fights a little dirty. pbf wants a clean fight (i figure) which is why he wants him to come to america.
Simply wrong if you take the scenario that I laid out in my first post.

Simply wrong if you take the scenario that I laid out in my first post.

i guess it makes sense in that case. get an american, a brit, and someone from switzerland.

i dont care if the fight happens in the usa or in africa or in south america or in australia or in any part of europe. i think floyd wins everywhere. BUT floyd doesnt want to risk going to england and i cant blame him.
the hatton zoo fight was the single worst referring job i have ever seen in my life.
dont tell me i am hoping for, either. i THINK hatton will get stopped on cuts because he has a habit for getting severly cut and swelled. its called a prediction.
Hatton has a habit of getting cut and then going on to win the fight you mean?

So Mayweather cuts him, and Hatton gets stopped early, because its America, when if you look at his past performances, the cuts havent hindered his fighting and he has always gone on to win (hence undefeated record)...

Mayweather needs to step outside of his backyard for me to respect him, like I do KT who had the balls to come to England and pick the biggest money up...

i guess it makes sense in that case. get an american, a brit, and someone from switzerland.
Exactly!!!! :)

Hatton fights Mayweather here...I don't see why this is debated so much.

The fight will happen, it'll be a good fight either way. America is where the big time fights happen, I know that is close mided or whathaveyou but it's the way it is often times.

Mayweather has faced Castillo and Corrales when they were both absolute killers...theres nothing more scary about Hatton right now than there was with those guys several years ago. He's fought the best in his career, even though he's seemingly fighting powder puffs right now. Fights gonna happen though, not in MEN however.

Hatton has a habit of getting cut and then going on to win the fight you mean?

So Mayweather cuts him, and Hatton gets stopped early, because its America, when if you look at his past performances, the cuts havent hindered his fighting and he has always gone on to win (hence undefeated record)...

Mayweather needs to step outside of his backyard for me to respect him, like I do KT who had the balls to come to England and pick the biggest money up...

hatton is not good on cuts. i predicted floyd to stop hatton on cuts. i think hes precision and speed will allow him to attack the cut and eventually stop the fight.
LIKE I SAID, i dont care if the fight takes place in the us
IN fact, hold it in a neutral location with a neutral ref and neutral judges.
ya, kt had the balls to come to england and look what happend. he lost in one of the dirtiest fights ever

I personally not bothered as to where this fight takes place simply because I cannot see it going the distance. One man will win through stoppage/KO before the 12th round. Its too close to call. Its a 50/50 bout.

i guess it makes sense in that case. get an american, a brit, and someone from switzerland.

the problem is, judges are not the only problem. the ref and ring doctor also factor in

Hatton fights Mayweather here...I don't see why this is debated so much.

The fight will happen, it'll be a good fight either way. America is where the big time fights happen, I know that is close mided or whathaveyou but it's the way it is often times.

Mayweather has faced Castillo and Corrales when they were both absolute killers...theres nothing more scary about Hatton right now than there was with those guys several years ago. He's fought the best in his career, even though he's seemingly fighting powder puffs right now. Fights gonna happen though, not in MEN however.
Is there any real reason why you object to England as a location?

the problem is, judges are not the only problem. the ref and ring doctor also factor in
I said an American ref, at least one American judge, and I didnt say it before but since you insist, ill throw an American ring doctor in.

Factor that in with the 5% purse increase for PBF. Is there any pleasing you?

Apparently Hatton is ducking Mayweather, right?

If that is so lets make this a bit more attractive... perhaps we could have a 5% gain of the purse in favour of Mayweather, an American judge of his choice of the boards choice, and at least 1 American judge...

We hold it in the MEN Arena in Manchester, which I believe has a larger capacity than all of the Vegas venues and possibly even MSG....

We stick it on PPV and the fighters will receive the biggest pay day of their lives, and everyone's happy, including the fans.

Where is the objection?

Hey Exige. 'Tard here.

You may not be aware of a little something called a time difference. Yes. A time difference. Since the earth revolves around the sun and different parts of the earth get exposed to daylight at different times, we are required to assign something called "time zones".

You see, England is FIVE hours ahead of the east coast and EIGHT hours ahead of the west coast. That is why Kostya Tszyu had to fight at 2am Manchester local time. Jeff Lacy is doing the same thing.

Now, neither Lacy nor Tszyu are PPV stand-alones on their own. But PBF believes he is, and his promotional team is casting and marketing him as such.

So, you are asking him to fight at 2am Manchester time so that the fight can be shown in Vegas and LA at 5pm-ish on a Saturday afternoon. Does that seem appealing to you? A 3pm broadcast time in Los Angeles with a 6pm main event will result in WAY lower PPV buys. Us hardcore fans are still in. The casual fan? Ehhh, not so much.

Also, you may or may not be aware of this (I learned it in retard school). Casinos in the US pay what is called a "site fee" to help finance a fight. For example, the Mandalay Bay has paid up to $10 million for a DelaHoya fight. They also do ticket guarantees where they buy a certain number of the high priced tickets. That minimizes a promoter's risk. The casinos are willing to do that knowing that they will sell rooms, meals and make a bundle back in the casinos. Notice how table minimums always increase on fight weekends.

Lastly (and I would have thought that you knew this already being the genius that you are), the main money in a megafight comes NOT from the arena capacity, but from PPV buys. If an arena holds 20,000 vs 12,000... big whoop. Selling an extra 10,000 tickets at $100 each is only a million of revenue. It is FAR more important to focus on getting your PPV buys up from 350,000 to 450,000, for example. That amounts to an incremental four point five mil of revenue. Surprised that math escaped you. The biggest non-heavyweight fight was ODLH/Trinidad. That was at Mandalay Bay Events Center.

I know I said "lastly" above. I lied. By having one of their contracted boxers fight overseas, HBO puts substantial licensing rights at risk. International broadcast rights are complicated and HBO would undoubtedly have to share revenues with British broadcasting partners who own the infrastructure.

Boy, Exige... really wish I was as knowledgeable as you are about the boxing business. :D

Is there any real reason why you object to England as a location?


Me personally? No not really. I feel like some people who really love Mayweather are objecting because they feel England is an unsafe advantage in Hattons favor.

I could care less wheree the fight happened I just think it would happen here as opposed to there.

These guys should fight in africa with jay nady as ref.

There's no way that Ricky will let the fight happen outside of America! It's his dream.

Hey Exige. 'Tard here.

You may not be aware of a little something called a time difference. Yes. A time difference. Since the earth revolves around the sun and different parts of the earth get exposed to daylight at different times, we are required to assign something called "time zones".

You see, England is FIVE hours ahead of the east coast and EIGHT hours ahead of the west coast. That is why Kostya Tszyu had to fight at 2am Manchester local time. Jeff Lacy is doing the same thing.

Now, neither Lacy nor Tszyu are PPV stand-alones on their own. But PBF believes he is, and his promotional team is casting and marketing him as such.

So, you are asking him to fight at 2am Manchester time so that the fight can be shown in Vegas and LA at 5pm-ish on a Saturday afternoon. Does that seem appealing to you? A 3pm broadcast time in Los Angeles with a 6pm main event will result in WAY lower PPV buys. Us hardcore fans are still in. The casual fan? Ehhh, not so much.

Also, you may or may not be aware of this (I learned it in retard school). Casinos in the US pay what is called a "site fee" to help finance a fight. For example, the Mandalay Bay has paid up to $10 million for a DelaHoya fight. They also do ticket guarantees where they buy a certain number of the high priced tickets. That minimizes a promoter's risk. The casinos are willing to do that knowing that they will sell rooms, meals and make a bundle back in the casinos. Notice how table minimums always increase on fight weekends.

Lastly (and I would have thought that you knew this already being the genius that you are), the main money in a megafight comes NOT from the arena capacity, but from PPV buys. If an arena holds 20,000 vs 12,000... big whoop. Selling an extra 10,000 tickets at $100 each is only a million of revenue. It is FAR more important to focus on getting your PPV buys up from 350,000 to 450,000, for example. That amounts to an incremental four point five mil of revenue. Surprised that math escaped you. The biggest non-heavyweight fight was ODLH/Trinidad. That was at Mandalay Bay Events Center.

I know I said "lastly" above. I lied. By having one of their contracted boxers fight overseas, HBO puts substantial licensing rights at risk. International broadcast rights are complicated and HBO would undoubtedly have to share revenues with British broadcasting partners who own the infrastructure.

Boy, Exige... really wish I was as knowledgeable as you are about the boxing business. :D
Well done you raised 4 irrelevant points. Im gonna buy you a sticker that says "top tard".

Time gap - Mayweather trains over here for a month, and is scheduled like every other major fight that happens over here in terms of when it happens in the day. That point is gone.

Casino subsidies - Frank Warren didnt have any problem raising money for the Hatton-KT fight. That point is gone.

PPV Buys - Totally irrelevant, why did you mention it? This fight sells alone regardless of whether it is in the UK or America. If you add the fact that the Arena is bigger onto that, you officially lose, since revenue will be larger here than America... That point is gone.

Shared Revenues - Happens all the time, so why did you raise this? Over here SkySports covers boxing for those who have subscribed to Sky... over there HBO make it a PPV. That point is gone.

Me personally? No not really. I feel like some people who really love Mayweather are objecting because they feel England is an unsafe advantage in Hattons favor.

I could care less wheree the fight happened I just think it would happen here as opposed to there.

These guys should fight in africa with jay nady as ref.
Good post .

Well done you raised 4 irrelevant points. Im gonna buy you a sticker that says "top tard".

Time gap - Mayweather trains over here for a month, and is scheduled like every other major fight that happens over here in terms of when it happens in the day. That point is gone.

Casino subsidies - Frank Warren didnt have any problem raising money for the Hatton-KT fight. That point is gone.

PPV Buys - Totally irrelevant, why did you mention it? This fight sells alone regardless of whether it is in the UK or America. If you add the fact that the Arena is bigger onto that, you officially lose, since revenue will be larger here than America... That point is gone.

Shared Revenues - Happens all the time, so why did you raise this? Over here SkySports covers boxing for those who have subscribed to Sky... over there HBO make it a PPV. That point is gone.



Name me the big fights that were staged in England and their PPV numbers.

Since you are touting "every other major fight". What major PPv fights are you talking about??? I KNOW you aren't comparing the relative magnitudes of Hatton-Tszyu '05 to Hatton-Mayweather '06 ?!?! SURELY you aren't doing that?!


Do you think that PBF, who fought Bruseles for 3 million, Gatti for 3+ million and Mitchell for 4 million, and is scheduled to fight Judah for 6 million is going to take Kostya Tszyu money?

You didn't address a SINGLE point with a fact. Every response was "do it like they always do". Always do what?? What major fights are you referring to? What megafights have been staged there? List them.

Floyd is an HBO contracted fighter. Why would HBO take a PORTION of the money from SKY when they can broadcast the fight themselves at the Mandalay Bay or MGM and make Sky PAY THEM a licensing fee? There is a reason why HBO has been overpaying PBF for "easy work". To reap future rewards. Not to give the revenues away to green-toothed Brits.


You are truly 'bery bery stoopid.'...but please: tell me about all the mega-fights you are referring to.

Hatton fights Mayweather here...I don't see why this is debated so much.

The fight will happen, it'll be a good fight either way. America is where the big time fights happen, I know that is close mided or whathaveyou but it's the way it is often times.

Mayweather has faced Castillo and Corrales when they were both absolute killers...theres nothing more scary about Hatton right now than there was with those guys several years ago. He's fought the best in his career, even though he's seemingly fighting powder puffs right now. Fights gonna happen though, not in MEN however.


Gringo... There ya go making sense again.

You know that is gonna make Exige's head spin. Facts scare him.

Name me the big fights that were staged in England and their PPV numbers.

Since you are touting "every other major fight". What major PPv fights are you talking about??? I KNOW you aren't comparing the relative magnitudes of Hatton-Tszyu '05 to Hatton-Mayweather '06 ?!?! SURELY you aren't doing that?!


Do you think that PBF, who fought Bruseles for 3 million, Gatti for 3+ million and Mitchell for 4 million, and is scheduled to fight Judah for 6 million is going to take Kostya Tszyu money?

You didn't address a SINGLE point with a fact. Every response was "do it like they always do". Always do what?? What major fights are you referring to? What megafights have been staged there? List them.

Floyd is an HBO contracted fighter. Why would HBO take a PORTION of the money from SKY when they can broadcast the fight themselves at the Mandalay Bay or MGM and make Sky PAY THEM a licensing fee? There is a reason why HBO has been overpaying PBF for "easy work". To reap future rewards. Not to give the revenues away to green-toothed Brits.


You are truly 'bery bery stoopid.'...but please: tell me about all the mega-fights you are referring to.
When it comes to the HBO and SkySports relationship, I am sure that is done on a contract which is written up before any fight have even take place. HBO pay for the stream from SkySports anyway, and then use their own commentary team etc. etc.

As for the big fights over here? You even mentioned one yourself. Hatton-KT, soon we will have Lacy-Calzaghe, and when Tyson has fought over here it has always been a sell out. Then of course we have the little rivalries which have gone in within the UK. Benn-Eubank, Benn-McClellan, Eubank-Watson.... there have been some major fights in the UK.

Come on, you have xtreme bxin nawledge, you should be listing them.....

Gringo... There ya go making sense again.

You know that is gonna make Exige's head spin. Facts scare him.
Which facts do you speak of, lol.

He presented no facts in that post, other than the ones about Castillo and Corrales, thus unrelated, thus not "scaring" me...

Go figure, ****ing fool.

When it comes to the HBO and SkySports relationship, I am sure that is done on a contract which is written up before any fight have even take place. HBO pay for the stream from SkySports anyway, and then use their own commentary team etc. etc.

As for the big fights over here? You even mentioned one yourself. Hatton-KT, soon we will have Lacy-Calzaghe, and when Tyson has fought over here it has always been a sell out. Then of course we have the little rivalries which have gone in within the UK. Benn-Eubank, Benn-McClellan, Eubank-Watson.... there have been some major fights in the UK.

Come on, you have xtreme bxin nawledge, you should be listing them.....


There you are. Your inability to list all of the mega-fights held in England is justified. There really weren't any.

It isn't an "England" thing, so don't get your panties in a wad. It is purely economics of the American market for the reasons I listed. Sorry, Hatton/Tszyu was not a megafight. Tszyu never developed a big fan base, and RH's fan base jumped exponentially here in the states AFTER his Tszyu and Maussa wins.


Do you remember the "Golden Age" when big fights were held internationally? The Thrilla in Manila? The Rumble in the Jungle? Foreman/Frazier in Kingston? Foreman/Norton in Venezuela? You just can't do that anymore because the economics don't work in our current financial and legal structure. The evolution of PPV and the broadcast rights pretty much restrict it. Unfortunately. I watched that DVD of the pre-fight to Rumble in the Jungle and it was exotic and stirring.

The mega-fights work for America. We DO steal all of the British television ideas, however.

Duplicity making sense??

there are reasons floyd wont fight hatton in the uk and you know what they are. HATTON has been the one to publicly state that he does not want to fight floyd right now, and floyd said he would take hatton on as long as its not in the uk becuase the ref's and judges would suck hattons nuts (those are not floyds words)

EXTIGE sed gayweather to choose the ref and a judge can be american, you dont even read!!

maywether is ducking hatton?

Me personally? No not really. I feel like some people who really love Mayweather are objecting because they feel England is an unsafe advantage in Hattons favor.

I could care less wheree the fight happened I just think it would happen here as opposed to there.

These guys should fight in africa with jay nady as ref.

good idea
i like a neutral location with nuetral refs and judges

good idea
i like a neutral location with nuetral refs and judges
Ricky won't stand for that ****! He'll demand the fight takes place in America.

Why does ricky want more fights?!! the guy has 40 fights! hatton could fight cotto on June 11 but i guess him promoter doesnt want that to happen.... he wants to fight baldimor... and if he fights on june im sure they would make a hatton vs floyd... but i bet hattons corner would say... "ooh we need to fight atleast 2 more fight to get fans in the US"

who would want to fight in england anyway? after that tszyu fight sheesh i think no one wants to fight there now

Why does ricky want more fights?!! the guy has 40 fights! hatton could fight cotto on June 11 but i guess him promoter doesnt want that to happen.... he wants to fight baldimor... and if he fights on june im sure they would make a hatton vs floyd... but i bet hattons corner would say... "ooh we need to fight atleast 2 more fight to get fans in the US"

who would want to fight in england anyway? after that tszyu fight sheesh i think no one wants to fight there now

WHY SHOULD HATTON FITE GAY WEATHER WHEN HE CUD LOOSE. he cud clean the lite / welter weight division then whooop gay lords weathers ass after.

Its mayweather... why you call him gayweather? why you hating?


Hatton..... i dont know what to say about this guy... he doesnt seem to impress me...

good idea
i like a neutral location with nuetral refs and judges

You know what a "neutral location" is?

Anywhere in America. Oscar Delahoya (tR) lost a close decision to Trinidad in Vegas and Zab Judah lost a close decision to Baldomir in nyc.


If Delahoya (tR) can lose in practically his town, then I think American judges CAN be fair.

Maybe they were making it up to him by gifting him the Sturm fight.

Mayweather don't like England cuz there biased refs and judges there.

Think about it, he fought Gatti in his hometown New Jersey/Atlantic City. LOL!

Hatton..... i dont know what to say about this guy... he doesnt seem to impress me...
Damn, you take some pleasing!

The guy's been nothing short of Awesome for 10+ years.

Damn, you take some pleasing!

The guy's been nothing short of Awesome for 10+ years.


"awesome"??... fighting whom??

Mayweather don't like England cuz there biased refs and judges there.

Think about it, he fought Gatti in his hometown New Jersey/Atlantic City. LOL!

what PART OF READ THE THREAD FROM THE START dont you understand ???? :mad: :confused:

how come hatton doesnt get ripped for not coming to america, but yet sturm does, i mean hatton's biggest fight came to him in his hometown, while sturm with only 20 pro fights came to america and beat up one of boxing most known fighers,

how come hatton doesnt get ripped for not coming to america, but yet sturm does, i mean hatton's biggest fight came to him in his hometown, while sturm with only 20 pro fights came to america and beat up one of boxing most known fighers,
How comes Mayweather doesnt get ripped for not stepping foot out of America?

Only the quizmaster knows the answer to these questions.

why should mayweather settle for just 5% increase? it should be 75% 25% purse split in favor of mayweather. or really ideally id say let the dude that wins the fight win the 75% share.

i would want mayweather to fight hatton in england just to rub it in even more and silence that crowd. even though i think hatton is good and i respect him i dont think hed give mayweather much of a fight.

How comes Mayweather doesnt get ripped for not stepping foot out of America?

Only the quizmaster knows the answer to these questions.

america is a huge country dude its not the same. england is tiny in comparison. at least 90 percent of the big fights are in the US. its not like mayweather fights much at all in Grand Rapids Michigan. Most his fights are at the big casinos.

i dont really care where fighters fight as long as they show them. they can fight in tibet as far as i care man.

Damn, you take some pleasing!

The guy's been nothing short of Awesome for 10+ years.

awesome is an overstatement, seeeing as hes only had one big fight, but hes an exciting very good fighter

EXTIGE sed gayweather to choose the ref and a judge can be american, you dont even read!!

maywether is ducking hatton?

floyd isnt ducking hatton. if anything, hatton is "ducking" floyd because he said he doesnt want to fight floyd just yet. floyd said he would whoop hattons ass etc etc.