View Full Version : East-man Is A Dead-man: Hopkins Gives Another Technical Beating
Mr. Violence 01-20-2005, 02:48 PM This is gonna be a great fight let's look BRIEFLY at these fighters:
Bernard Hopkins 45-2-1(32):
There are faster boxers and bigger punchers, but none can match Bernard's arsenal of defensive and offensive skills and versatility. He can jab and move from long distance or maul and crowd you up close. The 6'1 Middle Weight champion is amazingly strong and takes a good punch.
Howard Eastman 40-1-(34):
Physically strong fighter. A lot stronger than he looks. He is a hard and accurate puncher. He has a good jab, a strong cross, strong uppercut, pretty good defense and a VERY good chin.
My Prediction: Both of these guys can take a good punch. Eastman is a slow starter who sometimes shows a lack of urgency like in his loss against Joppy. In my opinion Bernard has superior boxing skills than Eastman and is able to fight on the outside as well as on the inside exceptionally well so Eastman will have nowhere to hide. Since Eastman can take a good punch,it's unlikely that Bernard will knock him out. BUT it is very possible that Bernard may stop him in the later rounds like he did in the technical beatdown he gave Tito...BUT I'm leaning more on a SEVERE 12 round technical beating like the one he gave Joppy. Bernard Hopkins W12 by UD
*Feel free to give your opinion*
theironone 01-20-2005, 02:51 PM Good call on most of it, losing a 12 round decision won't make him a dead man, he'll be very competative for the first 7 rounds or so then Hopkins will take the stretch, 11 round stoppage with Howard on his feet or 12 round points for X
Mr. Violence 01-20-2005, 03:13 PM Good call on most of it, losing a 12 round decision won't make him a dead man, he'll be very competative for the first 7 rounds or so then Hopkins will take the stretch, 11 round stoppage with Howard on his feet or 12 round points for X
The way that Bernard schools other fighters and takes their heart away slowly round by round in a lot of ways is a lot worse than just getting wiped out fast and easy in my humble opinion. That's why I say Eastman is a deadman. But I hear what you're saying.
Cletus Funk 01-20-2005, 03:14 PM That's what should happen but you never know, Nard might start acting his age.
Mr. Violence 01-20-2005, 03:29 PM That's what should happen but you never know, Nard might start acting his age.
Anything is always possible. I doubt that though, Hopkins is 40 but he is a young 40...a freak of nature really. But yeah anything is possible.
Silverfox 01-20-2005, 10:39 PM Besides Joppy, whom he lost to, Eastman has fought no world recognised boxer.
Hopkins will kill him.
ChicoEscuelaNYC 01-20-2005, 10:59 PM Eastman has good defense??? BALHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHAMAUAHHAHA
THe man is a human dart board, and easy to hit. He's got decent offensive skills, and really good power, but he's a ****ing punching bag.
Hopkins easy KO 9.
Eyeh8you 01-20-2005, 11:02 PM These fukin idiots sayin hopkins might lose are the same idiots who always say **** like" Oh ihave a feeling of an upset" even though the underdog is totally outclassed. Hopkins is gonna kill this no talent milk dud
MetalVomit 01-20-2005, 11:04 PM These fukin idiots sayin hopkins might lose are the same idiots who always say **** like" Oh ihave a feeling of an upset" even though the underdog is totally outclassed. Hopkins is gonna kill this no talent milk dud
Milk Dud??????? hmmm....where have I heard that before :)
Sister Sledge 01-21-2005, 12:25 AM Eastman hasn't fought the best opposition, but he looks for real. He's a hard hitter, but B-Hop is just intimidating and may just impose his will on Howard. I think Eastman is going to put up a spirited romp and come up a little short.
Solo322 01-21-2005, 12:43 AM Hopkins in the ninth round KO
jpboxer3 01-21-2005, 12:56 AM Howard Eastman 40-1-(34):
Physically strong fighter. A lot stronger than he looks. He is a hard and accurate puncher. He has a good jab, a strong cross, strong uppercut, pretty good defense and a VERY good chin.
Eastman is the biggest fighter and puncher that B-Hops faced in a while.Eastman will give Hopkins a tougher fight than many people expect.I think Hopkins gets floored in this fight but rallies in the Championship rounds to win a close decision.
ChicoEscuelaNYC 01-21-2005, 01:02 AM Hopkins get floored? Yeah right.
oldgringo 01-21-2005, 01:03 AM Eastman is the biggest fighter and puncher that B-Hops faced in a while.Eastman will give Hopkins a tougher fight than many people expect.I think Hopkins gets floored in this fight but rallies in the Championship rounds to win a close decision.
What makes you think this? Echols was certainly bigger than Eastman and was a bigger puncher and Hop shut him down. I don't think that anyone 168 and below could floor Hop. He has an excellent chin and fights in a way that doesn't expose him to much danger. I believe Eastman will be Hopkins first live opponent in a while but I don't expect Howard to win more than 4 rounds tops.
jpboxer3 01-21-2005, 01:16 AM What makes you think this? Echols was certainly bigger than Eastman and was a bigger puncher and Hop shut him down. I don't think that anyone 168 and below could floor Hop. He has an excellent chin and fights in a way that doesn't expose him to much danger. I believe Eastman will be Hopkins first live opponent in a while but I don't expect Howard to win more than 4 rounds tops.
Hopkins AGE and Eastman is a hungry fighter.
I still pick Hopkins to win but expect Eastman to be a tougher opponent than Hopkins previous opponents(DLH,Allen,Hakkar LMAO!).
Floydmayweather 01-21-2005, 01:52 AM Eastman is tough, fast, and has a great chin. He will give Hopkins hell of a fight but lose the descion.
Solo322 01-21-2005, 05:45 AM Eastman is tough, fast, and has a great chin. He will give Hopkins hell of a fight but lose the descion.
If eastman tries to bull Hopkins and try to muscle him up inside, i don't think it'll work, hopkins will just jab and dodge like in the trinidad fight
pinkpanther 01-21-2005, 05:49 AM This is gonna be a great fight let's look BRIEFLY at these fighters:
Bernard Hopkins 45-2-1(32):
There are faster boxers and bigger punchers, but none can match Bernard's arsenal of defensive and offensive skills and versatility. He can jab and move from long distance or maul and crowd you up close. The 6'1 Middle Weight champion is amazingly strong and takes a good punch.
Howard Eastman 40-1-(34):
Physically strong fighter. A lot stronger than he looks. He is a hard and accurate puncher. He has a good jab, a strong cross, strong uppercut, pretty good defense and a VERY good chin.
My Prediction: Both of these guys can take a good punch. Eastman is a slow starter who sometimes shows a lack of urgency like in his loss against Joppy. In my opinion Bernard has superior boxing skills than Eastman and is able to fight on the outside as well as on the inside exceptionally well so Eastman will have nowhere to hide. Since Eastman can take a good punch,it's unlikely that Bernard will knock him out. BUT it is very possible that Bernard may stop him in the later rounds like he did in the technical beatdown he gave Tito...BUT I'm leaning more on a SEVERE 12 round technical beating like the one he gave Joppy. Bernard Hopkins W12 by UD
*Feel free to give your opinion*
Interesting going out on a limb, Eastman to end a fantastic career of one of the greatest boxers of a generation, only my opinion.
SAME POST AS I PUT IN OPINION CENTRAL BUT PRETTY RELEVAT SO THOUGHT I WOULD POST IT HERE AGAIN.
much as id love Howard to beat Nard, I cant see it. (Nard is my fave fighter at present but I back the brits when it comes to it you just have to go for country hey! (well unless it was Naz i hated that arrogant nuisance and shouted for Barrera).
Howard has a tendancy to want to fight at his own pace and Nard wont let him do that. I agree with whomever said go to the body, but Howard is going to have to up his work rate tremendously to the likes we havent seen him do before. No showboating do the biznizz.
One thing Nard wont be able to do to Howard is bully him in the ring, Howard will have the physical advantages going in, he is a monster at middle, more a super middle these days to be honest. If howard can lean hard on Nard in the clinches and use his superior size then it may get interesting later in the fight.
Both men have fantastic whiskers (no pun intended) in fact two of the best chins in boxing today, so expect a decision verdict, for my money Nard just has too mucb nouse and too much gas and workate and takes a wide UD.
Id be delighted to be proved wrong though.
GOOD LUCK HOWARD
ophqui 01-21-2005, 10:19 AM if theres gonna be a stoppage, it'll be eastman in the late rounds. I dont think he's technically good enough to beat hopkins, but he's got the reach/height advantage, and probably a bit of power on hopkins as well.
It'll be either a late stoppage in favour of eastman or a decision for Nard.
BOXINGSCENE.com Article By Matteo Alderson ...
"Bernard Hopkins is in for a fight on February 19. No one can defy the ravages of father time.
On February 19 at the Staple Center we are going to see a shocking upset. Hopkins is old and ready to be taken. Remember Donald Curry ..... Curry was eyeing potential super-fights with Leonard and Hagler when Loyd Honeyghan, a Brit like Eastman, came in hungry and dethroned the Lone Star Cobra."
For ****'s sake, why does boxingscene allow this kind of half-baked **** to be posted on the Home Page?
#1 - Hops has defied the ravages of Father Time. Against Eastmen, Hops will again show-up looking like a 20-year old.
#2 - You ask "Remember Donald Curry?". Of course. Comparing Curry-Honeyghan and Eastman-Hopkins makes no sense. Hopkins has already proven that he is not a Curry-type champ who will be exposed. Guys have been trying far quite a while to "expose" Hopkins. Tito was supposed to be that guy, right? Eastman ain't him either.
Curry lost to Honeyghan in Ring Mag's "Upset of the Year" and never recovered because he was simply not mentally strong. This was very evident in Curry's post-Honeyghan fights, where he really was not the same fighter. There is not a "Honeyghan" waiting to expose Hops. Hopkins mental toughness will be in the ring against Eastman, along with unparlleled conditioning, ring savvy and experience.
Saint3605 01-21-2005, 12:54 PM Who the hell is Howard Eastman?
Why do people really think Eastman is gonna beat Hopkins. The only way Hopkins loses is that he gets old on fight night, it definitly won't have anything to do with Howard Eastman's skills or power as a fighter. Howard Eastman is no comparison to Hopkins
Mr. Violence 01-22-2005, 01:37 AM Eastman has good defense??? BALHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHAMAUAHHAHA
THe man is a human dart board, and easy to hit. He's got decent offensive skills, and really good power, but he's a ****ing punching bag.
Hopkins easy KO 9.
ha ha ha ha...you think his defense is THAT bad...ok let's say you're right...do you still think Hopkins can knock him out...after all Eastman does have a good chin. What's your take on that? Do you think Hopkins hits hard enough to knock out a man with an steel chin?
Mr. Violence 01-22-2005, 01:41 AM Interesting going out on a limb, Eastman to end a fantastic career of one of the greatest boxers of a generation, only my opinion.
for my money's sake I do hope you are wrong...but you are entitled to your opinion. :D
Do you think Hopkins hits hard enough to knock out a man with an steel chin?
Eastmand's defence is definitely as bad as everyone says. No question there. He is kinda' like Mayorga or Gatti in the way he stands there, open, with his hit-me-until-you're-tired style of "defence". Eastman will figure-out pretty early on that he's standing in front of the wrong guy.
Your'e 100% right too Johnny, that Eastman is all chin. But, he'll actually need to hit back too, and that's where Hops always wins. He's proven not to be very hittable since RJJ. Eastman claims he's the guy, but, with no defense at all, Eastman will tire from the shots that keep comin' and comin' and comin' .....
Hopkins can loose to two styles. A guy who stays on the outside and picks him off, which Eastman can't do. Or, a guy who can counter with power and do it VERY effectively, which Eastman has never done.
Only hope for Eastman that Hops suddenly gets old in the middle of the ring. But, Hops hasn't been to war over and over again, so he shouldn't age too quick. Plus Hops' performance against DLH showed he's not ready to fall apart quite yet.
scramwarrior 01-22-2005, 07:00 PM Didn't Eastman lose to William Joppy? If he did, than people need to stop getting on Jermain Taylor's back about not fighting quality opposition. Nobody seems to have a problem with B-Hop fighting Eastman, in fact, alot of the idiots on this forum are actually hyping this fight up. Joppy ran scared like a ***** against Taylor. How embarrassing!!
The Phantom Menace 01-22-2005, 08:47 PM Bernard Hopkins will KO Howard Eastman in round 10.
seggio 01-23-2005, 10:07 AM Bernard Hopkins now is the best middleweight in the world. W12 by UD.
Tha Greatest 01-23-2005, 01:54 PM EA curse or no curse Hopkins will destoy this guy
hopkins is to smart for this guy
i dont even know why this guy is fighting himm
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