View Full Version : Gerry Penalosa, how good was he?


Mr. Ryan
01-20-2005, 03:23 PM
I'm a filipino-american from Jersey City, NJ. I have seen Luisito Espinosa and Manny Pacquiao many times, but have never seen Penalosa. What was his style, how good a puncher was he, and what was his best fight?

jabsRstiff
01-20-2005, 04:17 PM
I only saw him fight once...& was very, very impressed.
He fought on USA Tuesday Night Fights in '97.

He was a southpaw.....could really do everything, though he was more of a technician.
Threw nice combos, & had a beautiful straight left.

Sir_Jose
01-20-2005, 05:53 PM
I'm a filipino-american from Jersey City, NJ. I have seen Luisito Espinosa and Manny Pacquiao many times, but have never seen Penalosa. What was his style, how good a puncher was he, and what was his best fight?


Slightly above average fighter. He held his belt for little bit but never fought or beat anyone of any real worth. He was never thought of as the best in his division Johnny Tapia was thought to be head and shoulders better.

Epie2
01-21-2005, 10:20 PM
Gerry issued a challenge to Johnny Tapia when the former was in the US. Johnny did not respond. Before his retirement, Gerry was No. 1 randed at 115 by *********. A fighter who once fought Gerry said Gerry is difficult to hit. You'll see more of him as he is coming back. He just won the World Boxing foundation 115 title last November '04.

nelsoncm
01-21-2005, 10:27 PM
He was a tactician, more in the mold of Juan Manuel Marquez, but not as fast as JMM.
He loved banging opponents that come to him, but is always outsmarted by fleety boxers.
I think he will probably win an International version of WBC's belt but will come up short in significant fights.

Btw, he used to be our next door neighbor. :) Nice guy actually.

mr. bojangles
01-22-2005, 01:57 AM
Asian, look for that Penalosa-Saucedo and Penalosa-Hurtado fight videos. He's a good technical fighter, more of a counterpuncher actually. But, he had difficulties fighting sleek boxers like that Jap Tokuyama who just hits-and-runs.

His best fights were against :

Kawashima
Saucedo
Hurtado
Tokuyama 2 (lost by a controversial SD in Japan!)



http://www.ibopboxing.com/gallery/images/Gerry%20Penalosa%20-%20Tokuyama_jpg.jpg
Penalosa vs. Tokuyama

He's currently on the comeback trail, winning the WBF Superflyweight belt last November. He's looking to land a big $$$ fight with IBF champ Rafa Marquez which I think is a very difficult challenge. Rafa is perhaps the hardest puncher in boxing today P4P and is at his peak. IMO he should challenge instead the aging WBC champ Veeraphol (who's just picking on patsies to set a record number defenses in bantamweight history, he's at #14 now) or his former TKO victim WBO champ Sor Vorapin.

blitz
01-24-2005, 04:20 AM
Gerry is a very good tactical fighter. cerebral. a very good counter-puncher. southpaw with power in both hands. has one punch ko power but also throws power combos. very good footwork. difficult to hit. excellent defense. at his best against aggressive opponents who bring the fight to him. rangy fighters who doesn't mix it up makes him look bad.( like tokuyama and in joo cho who did nothing but run against gerry to score controversial hometown decisions. ) all his 4 loses were very close decisions. could've been undefeated. on a comeback trail at age 32. may be a young 32 considering he has never absorbed a beating throughout his career. toughest fight was against long time champ kawashima. best fights include ud vs saucedo, 5th rd ko of vorapin.

czars_salad
01-24-2005, 04:42 AM
Slightly above average fighter. He held his belt for little bit but never fought or beat anyone of any real worth. He was never thought of as the best in his division Johnny Tapia was thought to be head and shoulders better.
i thought gerry was in the superflyweight division while tapia was in superbantamweight division.

anyway gerry was a great fighter who was never given the chance to fight in "big fights" like espinosa or manny.

he was an exceptional defensive fighter who moves his head often avoiding punches from opponents. he was also a counterpuncher unlike pacquiao.

blitz
01-24-2005, 04:57 AM
gerry was wbc superfly champ at the time tapia was ibf jr bantam king

czars_salad
01-24-2005, 05:01 AM
gerry was wbc superfly champ at the time tapia was ibf jr bantam king
ah, ok

gerry's prime vs tapia's prime

tapia would have wone... but not a KO

probably by a UD

what do u think, bro?

blitz
01-24-2005, 05:12 AM
i agree that tapia doesn't have the power to ko gerry. but tapia's agressive show boating style is tailor made for an elusive counter puncher like gerry, who has never lost to an attacking fighter. make mine gerry by ud or late rd ko.

Sir_Jose
01-24-2005, 06:18 PM
Im guesing all of you guys are Pinoy's?


Penalosa was champion for like a year and never beat anyone of any worth and no one who knows anything about boxing and can speak about him without an agenda would never even put him in the same breath as Tapia let alone pick him to beat Tapia maybe the greatest ever at 115.

jabsRstiff
01-25-2005, 09:49 AM
Im guesing all of you guys are Pinoy's?


Penalosa was champion for like a year and never beat anyone of any worth and no one who knows anything about boxing and can speak about him without an agenda would never even put him in the same breath as Tapia let alone pick him to beat Tapia maybe the greatest ever at 115.


Galaxy was better than Tapia....at 115.

rudy
01-25-2005, 11:55 AM
Tapia was better than Galaxy did he ever come out of Thailand and fight I don't think so, Tapia came to England

Sir_Jose
01-25-2005, 06:07 PM
Galaxy was better than Tapia....at 115.


Yet another one of these "great" Asian fighters who never actually came outside of Asia.

Jose Rizal
01-25-2005, 10:18 PM
I'd like Penalosa to face JMM's kid brother Rafael. Both him and rafa love to trade and Jerry has power, has never been KO'ed, and could get lucky. I think he's got better defense but Rafa obviously has one of the strongest punches P4P, although I have seen him being hit often by lesser opponents. Maybe Jerry has a chance on this one and it would be a big catch indeed if he succeeds.

Sir_Jose
01-26-2005, 01:23 AM
My god talk about delusional fans.

Penalosa is 72 years old and has done nothing in years and not only are his fans calling for a title shot at Rafeal Marquez some are actually saying he would have a chance in that fight.

mr. bojangles
01-26-2005, 01:52 AM
LOL :D C'mon Jose, dont' be too hard on them. It's their opinion and they're entitled to it just as you are with yours.


Do you agree that styles makes fights? If so, Rafa's style would fit nicely to Gerry's, don't you think?

Rafa - boxer/puncher

Gerry - counterpuncher

Both have KO power, although Rafa undoubtedly hits harder and is perhaps the hardest puncher in boxing today P4P. My point is, Gerry could catch Rafa with a perfectly-placed counterpunch.

I'm not saying Penalosa will beat Marquez, heck I'd like him to face either Martin Castillo or Kawashima @115...or, either aging WBC champ Veeraphol Sahaphrom or former TKO victim WBO champ Sor Vorapin @118.

Anything can happen in boxing. Peace. :)

Jose Rizal
01-26-2005, 02:08 AM
Im guesing all of you guys are Pinoy's?


Penalosa was champion for like a year and never beat anyone of any worth and no one who knows anything about boxing and can speak about him without an agenda would never even put him in the same breath as Tapia let alone pick him to beat Tapia maybe the greatest ever at 115.

Jerry would've outboxed Tapia and eaten him like a smoked Tilapia. Tapia was one of the most overrated boxers there ever was. He sure got many fooled including you with his braggadocio in the ring. He was just in the same league as Paulie Ayala. Both were made fodder for MAB in their old age. Pathetic. :D

Sir_Jose
01-26-2005, 02:16 AM
Jerry would've outboxed Tapia and eaten him like a smoked Tilapia. Tapia was one of the most overrated boxers there ever was. He sure got many fooled including you with his braggadocio in the ring. He was just in the same league as Paulie Ayala. Both were made fodder for MAB in their old age. Pathetic. :D


unlike Gery who was made foder for guys like In-Joo Cho

Jose Rizal
01-26-2005, 02:30 AM
My god talk about delusional fans.

Penalosa is 72 years old and has done nothing in years and not only are his fans calling for a title shot at Rafeal Marquez some are actually saying he would have a chance in that fight.

Delusional? You're the one calling Penalosa a 72-yr.-old geriatric. Nah...maybe your just a biased *****.

Gerry has a good chance same as any fighter to KO Rafa. I think your basing your judgment on Rafa’s awe-inspiring KO’s and are forgetting that all of his losses were by KO, so don't tell me that hombre is invulnerable because he's definitely not. He’s a mere mortal and he happens to be a good match-up for Gerry style-wise, and you could even say his style is tailor-made for the Filipino because Gerry is an excellent counter puncher against brawlers.

Penalosa is no patsy and packs a punch too and he’s gonna see an opening for a haymaker sooner or later. That's if he doesn't get tagged first by Rafa who's got one of the most feared punches – almost like a prime Tyson - in the division. That being said, Gerry also has an excellent chin but his problem is that he’s a bleeder, specially against head butts. Like I said before, he’s smart and has got great defense and if he could avoid being hurt badly, there’s a slim chance he could out-box and even drop Rafa. I wouldn’t consider Rafa one of the most technically gifted fighters – unlike big his brother. It's not gonna be easy but it's doable.

Sir_Jose
01-26-2005, 02:39 AM
Delusional? You're the one calling Penalosa a 72-yr.-old geriatric. Nah...maybe your just a biased *****.

Gerry has a good chance same as any fighter to KO Rafa. I think your basing your judgment on Rafa’s awe-inspiring KO’s and are forgetting that all of his losses were by KO, so don't tell me that hombre is invulnerable because he's definitely not. He’s a mere mortal and he happens to be a good match-up for Gerry style-wise, and you could even say his style is tailor-made for the Filipino because Gerry is an excellent counter puncher against brawlers.

Penalosa is no patsy and packs a punch too and he’s gonna see an opening for a haymaker sooner or later. That's if he doesn't get tagged first by Rafa who's got one of the most feared punches – almost like a prime Tyson - in the division. That being said, Gerry also has an excellent chin but his problem is that he’s a bleeder, specially against head butts. Like I said before, he’s smart and has got great defense and if he could avoid being hurt badly, there’s a slim chance he could out-box and even drop Rafa. I wouldn’t consider Rafa one of the most technically gifted fighters – unlike big his brother. It's not gonna be easy but it's doable.


Oh yeah im the bias one*rolleys*

Pay attention.

Gery Penalosa has not won a World Title fight is 7 ****ing years.

He held a belt in the late 90's for 1 whole year and made 2 defenses against nobodies, Oh my god what a dominate and great champion he was.

He has done NOTHING to even deserve a title shot. Let alone at a p4p fighter like Rafeal Marquez.

Jose Rizal
01-26-2005, 02:54 AM
Oh yeah im the bias one*rolleys*

Pay attention.

Gery Penalosa has not won a World Title fight is 7 ****ing years.

He held a belt in the late 90's for 1 whole year and made 2 defenses against nobodies, Oh my god what a dominate and great champion he was.

He has done NOTHING to even deserve a title shot. Let alone at a p4p fighter like Rafeal Marquez.

Well as far as deserving a title shot goes, you've got a point and I'm not contesting that.

I was making an argument for him as far as his matchup with Rafa was concerned. A title shot is a way-over-longshot for Gerry and it's more wishful thingking on his part at this point that Rafa would acquiece to such a challenge. But who knows, stranger things have happened before and maybe Gerry was hoping Rafa would underestimate him and take him on as a tuneup or something. So my point here really is, if it does happen - which is really highly unlikely - then Gerry's got a chance of pulling the rug from under rafa feet.

By the way, your name sucks chunks.

czars_salad
01-26-2005, 05:50 AM
Im guesing all of you guys are Pinoy's?


Penalosa was champion for like a year and never beat anyone of any worth and no one who knows anything about boxing and can speak about him without an agenda would never even put him in the same breath as Tapia let alone pick him to beat Tapia maybe the greatest ever at 115.
WHAT?

To say that Tapia is the greatest at 115 is a big ?. Pancho Villa would have knocked him out if they fought both in their prime and at the same era.

Pancho Villa is considered to ge the greatest flyweight. He even fought fighters heavier than he was.

czars_salad
01-26-2005, 06:06 AM
http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/images/pvilla.jpg

Gryphon Hall
02-09-2005, 01:45 PM
When Barrera and Tapia fought, Barrera beat Tapia around the ring.

When Gerry and Manny Pacquiao fought during sparring matches, Manny got bruised all over. Gerry, some say, was Manny's best sparring partner http://www.ringtalk.com/news/view_article.asp?id=134&cat=4 and we, who have watched him fight from the very beginning, know that he is smarter than Manny.

But Manny beat up Barrera, didn't he? So :rolleyes:, is it delusional to assume that Penalosa can defeat Tapia if both were at their prime? Gerry just had the misfortune of not having anybody DESERVING enough to challenge him convincingly.

Chups
03-16-2007, 04:36 PM
BUMP....good discussion that went on.:D

Katz
03-16-2007, 10:41 PM
lolz!!! classic discussion! where is Jose Rizal?

Papa Ace
03-16-2007, 10:55 PM
i was cryin for days when gerry was robbed by bicycling in joo choo in korea many years ago.

gerry perhaps is one if not the most complete filipino boxer ive seen, he knows his pace, knows when to brawl, bide time and go for the ko. very good chin and defense too. never have been KOed and all hs loss were mostly split decisions.

loui_ludwig
03-16-2007, 11:34 PM
I read somewhere that most of Gerry's defeats came by split decision in the opponents country. Wonder what would be the scorecard if it was held in the US.

Chups
03-17-2007, 12:57 AM
lolz!!! classic discussion! where is Jose Rizal?


MABs............:popcorn:

JOM'S
03-17-2007, 03:26 AM
Gerry was good enough to challenge 122 pound champion Daniel Ponce De Leon today ...

you guys check the fight and then tell me how good was he ...

for an old ex-lower weight class champion, against a young heavy handed heavier current champion ...

flipside
03-17-2007, 04:32 AM
i like his brother more because he had polio. what an underdog.

eazy_mas
03-17-2007, 07:28 AM
he is a southpaw techincial inside fast pacing couterpuncher.

similar to JMM style abit

JOM'S
03-18-2007, 08:51 AM
i like his brother more because he had polio. what an underdog.

to tell you frankly its just lately i realize why Gerry is ranked higher than his older brother "Doddie Boy" on the Philippine All Time List of fighters...

JOM'S
03-18-2007, 08:55 AM
so any body have seen the fight last night between ponce de leon and gerry??

so how you guys rate the old man??

although he loss via UD, I am sure you'll see something good from him during that fight...

Jim_Davis
03-18-2007, 02:23 PM
Penalosa made that fight. I was impressed by him. Hope to see more of his fights in the future.

James78
03-18-2007, 06:48 PM
He was great, he was like a zen master or something, class act.

JOM'S
04-07-2007, 03:09 AM
http://www.maxboxing.com/conway/conway040507.asp

Golden Boy Launches a “Fearless” Protest for Penalosa
By Brett Conway (April 5, 2007)
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The stink from the scoring of the Gerry Penalosa-Daniel Ponce de Leon WBO super bantamweight championship match did not go away. Its aroma was discussed in newspapers and in boxing web forums. In hopes of changing the air, Golden Boy Promotions has launched an official protest with the WBO.

But first let’s recap. On March 17th, on the undercard of the Marco Antonio Barrera-Juan Manuel Marquez fight, Daniel Ponce de Leon put his WBO super bantamweight title on the line to face “Fearless” Gerry Penalosa. For 26-year-old Ponce de Leon, the highly touted slugger with an awkward technique, this fight was a mere bump to greater things. For Penalosa, the 34-year-old Filipino fighter, this was another shot at a title, maybe his last. He had more to lose from a loss than Ponce de Leon.

Despite putting on a display of the sweet science that probably left the spirits of Charley Burley, Willie Pep, and Archie Moore in glee and despite having Ponce de Leon retreating for the last three rounds, Penalosa was handed a unanimous decision loss and was given credit of winning only 2 of the 36 rounds on the scorecards. Since then, many of the boxing media have chimed in saying Penalosa was robbed.

MaxBoxing writers are among those who chimed in. Steve Kim scored it 116-112, Doug Fischer scored it 116-112, and Armando Alvarez scored it 116-112, all for Gerry Penalosa -- and all in line with my score of 115-113 Penalosa. Other writers, though, scored it differently. To Eric Raskin I went askin’, and he told me he had it 115-113 for Ponce de Leon. That’s a score I didn’t have but it’s a reasonable one, one that Doug Fischer, too, said he could agree with given late swing rounds.

In the fight, Ponce de Leon and Penalosa had contrasting styles, which often leads to these kinds of controversial scores where there’s a round or two too close to call. But scores of 119-109 or 120-108 just make me wonder whether the judges know that defense and effective, let me say it louder, EFFECTIVE aggression counts for something. Ponce de Leon was aggressive but ineffective; Penalosa was clearly more effective on offense and defense. Doug Fischer supplied me with some PunchStats. Of the 1400 punches thrown by Ponce de Leon only 19% landed and only 8% of his jabs. On the other hand, almost 40% of Penalosa’s power shots landed. ‘Nuff said.

Max Boxing’s traveling man, Lee Groves, had an entirely different picture of the fight, but closer than any of the judges. He had it 118-110 for Ponce de Leon and sticks by it, arguing that Ponce de Leon’s volume of punches trumps Penalosa’s effective counter-punching. I can understand an argument that says Ponce de Leon won because he threw so many punches, but I can’t agree with it because it doesn’t account for the ebb and flow of the fight – more on that below. PunchStats give us a guide as to what happened in a fight, but they never tell the whole story. (By the way, you can read more about Lee Grove’s take on the fight at http://www.maxboxing.com/groves/groves032807.asp.)

So among the MaxBoxing staff, four had it for Penalosa and two had it for Ponce de Leon. Three had a clear win for Penalosa, one had it close for Penalosa, one had it close for Ponce de Leon, and one had Ponce de Leon by a wide margin. In terms of total rounds, it’s 38 rounds for Penalosa and 34 rounds for Ponce de Leon, giving a slight edge to Penalosa. This is a much closer fight than the 34 of 36 scored for Ponce de Leon on the cards.

And that’s the point. Styles make fights. In the Penalosa-Ponce de Leon fight, the edge in counterpunching went to Penalosa and the edge in sheer volume of punches went to Ponce de Leon. Since boxing is not just about throwing punches, Penalosa’s counter punching must be taken into consideration and earn the Filipino fighter some rounds. Each fighter’s style made for a close fight, an interesting fight, an entertaining fight -- one that should be fought again in the interest of entertainment and justice both.

But it’s been over half-a-month since the fight. Who will remember it in a couple more weeks? Keeping attention on the scoring in this one has been difficult because of the robbery of Steve Forbes on the same card as Penalosa-Ponce de Leon and because the boxing world moves on to newer and bigger fights. But still some are keeping up the protest.

One who wants the Penalosa case to remain open is Billy Keane who, along with Freddie Roach, is the co-manager of Gerry Penalosa.

“It used to be that in Las Vegas, they loved the boxer but that doesn’t seem to be the case anymore,” Keane told Max Boxing. “To me that had to be one of the most interesting or bizarre decisions I’ve seen in a long time because for that fight for one judge not to give Gerry one round, I mean that’s very baffling to me how you could look at a fight like that and say he didn’t win a round. I mean those last four rounds when Gerry had Ponce de Leon running and doing nothing. And Gerry was stalking him and being aggressive and throwing power shots. I don’t know how you can see that and not give Gerry credit. I don’t really get it.”

Like many, Keane believes Penalosa didn’t just beat down Ponce de Leon and make him run for the last few rounds. Penalosa put on the kind of display that tickles the part of the brain that makes boxing folk think, “that fighter’s as sweet as Sugar.”

But the scoring knocked most people for a loop. If you were surprised, imagine how you would feel if you manged the fighter.

“We, like most, were completely shocked by the score cards. I think the fight was very close and had Gerry winning by one round. Certainly one could make an argument for a close verdict the other way. But 34 of 36 seems beyond comprehension.”

Even though he had more to lose by fighting Ponce de Leon and even though he was a 21-1 underdog coming in, Penalosa and his handlers believed he could win this fight.

“There was no doubt in my or Freddie Roach’s mind that he could beat Ponce de Leon. He’s just too superior a boxer. First of all, Ponce de Leon doesn’t know how to box. It’s not like he’s a boxer-puncher. It’s not something he does. Gerry on the other hand is a boxer. He can catch the guy coming in with right hooks. Gerry wanted to show his versatility. He wanted to show he could box.”

And show he could box he did. The Penalosa-Ponce de Leon fight, to my eye, had three acts: the first round, the second through the ninth, and the tenth to the twelfth. In the last two acts, Ponce de Leon’s skills ebbed while Penalosa’s flowed. In the first round, things seemed to be going Ponce de Leon’s way. He banged hooks to the head and especially to the body while Penalosa seemed hesistant. By the second round it was clear that Penalosa had been studying his opponent in that round, figuring him out. From the second to the ninth round, he applied what he learned. He waited for Ponce de Leon to throw and when he did, he countered with sharp right hooks and straight lefts. Many of these shots staggered Ponce de Leon or knocked him off balance, and their consistency and accumulation, despite Ponce de Leon’s inneffective activity, should’ve been enough to give Penalosa most of those rounds.

In the tenth round, Ponce de Leon changed tactics, maybe for the first time in his career. Instead of coming forward, he started to back pedal and move side to side, throwing out a jab all the while. The jab though wasn’t effective; it was more of a limp noodle. This was not a fighter adjusting to negative circumstances in a fight. It looked more like a fighter in full survival mode. Penalosa continually stalked his opponent.

Billy Keane shares this interpretation of the fight. “We thought it would take three or four rounds for Gerry to figure out Ponce de Leon. Gerry really adjusted his style from the second round on. After the first round, Gerry said he was not impressed with his power. He said he did not hit that hard. He realized that after the first round he could start taking it to him and apply a little pressure.”

When the scores were read – 120-108 from Dave Moretti and 119-109 from Chuck Giampa and Nelson Vazquez – some were shocked, some were outraged, and many in the Las Vegas audience who entered the Mandalay Bay not just to see the main event but also to cheer on Ponce de Leon booed the decision. Even the British broadcaster of this fight, Sky Sports, which had Ponce de Leon winning, called the scores “a piece of nonsense.” Clearly the judges saw something different from most fight fans.

“The cards had such discrepancies when they were announced I thought, ‘I didn’t think Gerry won that big,’” Keane said. “But then I thought, ‘well, they just screwed Steve Forbes.’ You can make an argument that the fight was close. Even if you want to make an argument that Ponce de Leon won a close fight, I’ll hear you out. But on one judge’s card, Gerry was not given any rounds. Guys in the ring, even Bernard Hopkins, were saying, ‘your guy won; your guy won.’”

With the scores so wide in a very competitive fight, I wonder whether Penalosa could have adjusted his style to make his skills seen more clearly to the judges who couldn’t see what he was doing.

JOM'S
04-07-2007, 03:10 AM
***8220;If the score cards were close I would have said you had to throw more punches. But given the scorecards being so wide, I couldn***8217;t say Gerry could***8217;ve done anything different. What could he have done besides knock him out?***8221; Keane said. ***8220;But Gerry does need to throw more punches if we ever get that rematch. We won***8217;t have to do a lot of things different. One thing I like about Gerry is that he is such an intelligent fighter. He can fight so much better and make so much more adjustments than Ponce de Leon who can only fight one way. In the rematch, Ponce de Leon will fight the exact same way he did last time.***8221;

At Penalosa***8217;s age, there is only a small window for making money. Like many good fighters fighting out of Asia, he hasn***8217;t the chance to make the big money as Manny Pacquiao has. Just ask WBC featherweight champion In Jin Chi how hard it is to cash in. He lost a chance to make easy money without risking his title against super featherweight champion Pacquiao and now has to defend his title against dangerous Oscar Larios in May. It***8217;s doubly tough when you lose out not only in the pocket but also on the score cards as Penalosa did against Ponce de Leon. Maybe being an Asian fighter hurt Penalosa***8217;s chances in the eyes of the judges.

***8220;I absolutely think that***8217;s part of it,***8221; Keane said. ***8220;Like when Gerry comes to the ring, he***8217;s booed. A lot of fans were looking at him as a lamb being led to slaughter. And Ponce comes out there, the big exciting knockout artist. But Gerry slowly and methodically dismantles him. And someone told me, and I think this was true for many people who were at the fight, that Ponce de Leon was going to knock him out in one round. After the first round, he was like ***8216;he***8217;ll get him in the next.***8217; And then ***8216;the next round.***8217; Then ***8216;the next round.***8217; Then around the sixth or seventh round, he is like ***8216;hey, Penalosa might be winning this fight.***8217; It kind of snuck up on him, seeing what Gerry was doing. People were just waiting for Ponce de Leon to blow him out and maybe that***8217;s what the judges were thinking. He was just an opponent, so they were waiting for him to get knocked out. They didn***8217;t even notice what was happening. ***8216;Is this big strong guy going to knock him out? Wow! He***8217;s throwing a lot of punches.***8217; They***8217;re not really seeing that the punches aren***8217;t landing. And the ones that are landing aren***8217;t really affecting him. And yeah, those body shots look really hard but they are not slowing Gerry down.***8221;

If it is up to Golden Boy Promotions, they won***8217;t allow Penalosa to be slowed down either. Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, has filed a protest with the WBO, putting the Penalosa-Ponce de Leon match under investigation. You can say what you want about the so-called ***8220;Cold War***8221; between Golden Boy and Bob Arum***8217;s Top Rank for stopping fights between Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez, but Golden Boy is looking out for its fighters.

***8220;For Golden Boy to give Gerry a shot at the title in their second fight with them, well, we***8217;re really pleased with them. Now, hopefully the protest will do something and something will be yielded. It just goes to show how Richard is and how Golden Boy is. They have both Ponce de Leon and Penalosa under contract, but, you know, right is right and Richard Schaefer is a very fair and honorable man with a high level of integrity which is really, really rare in this sport. And when something isn***8217;t right, they will fight for what***8217;s right.***8221;

Even though there is no guarantee that the protest will give Penalosa a rematch, it is clear that with his defense and counterpunching he still has some fights left in him. He could be an attractive opponent for many fighters in the lower weights.

***8220;Gerry would love to fight at 115. He would fight Johnny Gonzalez at 118. Gerry is a real warrior. He will fight anywhere from 115 to 122. The thing is he is such a good boxer that Ponce de Leon threw 1500 punches or whatever it was he threw but very, very few of them landed. People say he scored all those shots, but maybe they should***8217;ve scored Gerry***8217;s defense. He doesn***8217;t take a lot of shots, so for his age he is in very good condition. I think he can fight anyone out there between 115 to 122 pounds. The number one match for him though is a rematch with Ponce de Leon. That***8217;s what Gerry wants. After that, he would like to fight [WBO super flyweight champion] Fernando Montiel. And after that maybe [WBO bantamweight champion] Johnny Gonzalez or [WBC super bantamweight champion] Rafael Marquez.***8221;

But for now it***8217;s about the protest, one that doesn***8217;t just have to do with Penalosa though. Keane hopes it will help rid boxing of unfair decisions.

***8220;Beyond Gerry and Ponce, it has to do with giving fair decisions and cleaning the sport up. And if Gerry won the fight the other way, I think Richard would still be protesting. Running boxing with a high level of integrity means making things fair and right.***8221;

To help make things fair and right, the WBO should read its regulations and heed its section on return fights. It says, ***8220;if a Championship contest results in a highly controversial decision, the World Championship Committee may, in its discretion, recommend a direct return fight.***8221;

Billy Keane agrees. ***8220;It***8217;s good that the WBO is willing to take on the protest. Obviously, they***8217;re not going to overturn the decision. But hopefully they***8217;ll look at it and be reasonable and look at the ringside reporters and talk to the people that were there and say Gerry deserves a rematch. And it should be Ponce de Leon***8217;s next fight.***8221;.

JOM'S
08-12-2007, 12:57 PM
Oh yeah im the bias one*rolleys*

Pay attention.

Gery Penalosa has not won a World Title fight is 7 ****ing years.

He held a belt in the late 90's for 1 whole year and made 2 defenses against nobodies, Oh my god what a dominate and great champion he was.

He has done NOTHING to even deserve a title shot. Let alone at a p4p fighter like Rafeal Marquez.

"bump"


woot!!! finally after those long years ... at long last ...

Gerry won a well deserve title belt!!!

you guys seen him as an aging fighter against ponce and gonzalez, no where near his prime but he still fought these young champs competitively...

now could you guys see what we pinoys see in him??

JOM'S
08-16-2007, 02:54 AM
although this is a nuthugging piece, i agree on the "comeback of the year" ...

Will Penalosa Win the Triple Crown?
By Brett Conway (Aug 15, 2007) Photo ***169; German Villasenor

Behind on points, chasing a fighter content to keep him at bay with a jab and shoeshine combinations, Gerry Penalosa kept plugging away and didn***8217;t waver from his plan: shots to the body will weaken and put away the already weight drained bantamweight champion.

Finally, the moment came. Jhonny Gonzalez threw a right hand and the southpaw Penalosa dodged it but came back with a left hand of his own. Gonzalez, a good boxer with good fundamentals, brought his right back and with it an elbow to guard the rib cage. It arrived a nanosecond too late. Penalosa***8217;s punch landed just underneath it. It took a second or two before the punch to the liver communicated the pain to his body but when it did he, like Oscar De La Hoya against Bernard Hopkins or Leonard Dorin against Arturo Gatti, collapsed and gasped for breath. All the air in the room must have been sucked down by the audience that witnessed that punch, for Gonzalez hands on the ropes in a corner couldn***8217;t find any for himself. He was counted out with less than a minute remaining in the seventh round. Penalosa became the new WBO bantamweight champion.

Gerry Penalosa, with that one shot, achieved the seemingly impossible. A 35-year old in a division where fighters are usually washed up at the age of 30, Penalosa has beaten down two fighters so far in 2007. Back in March against WBO super bantamweight champion Daniel Ponce De Leon (who defeated Rey Bautista in the first on the same card as Penalosa-Gonzalez), Penalosa withstood an early storm from the hard punching Mexican but came back with precise counters. He threw enough hard stuff at Ponce De Leon that the champion for the first time in his career decided to turn into Sugar Ray Robinson. He danced and moved and jabbed, trying to keep Penalosa away. Although most ringside press appeared to have Penalosa winning, the judges didn***8217;t see it that way and gave the decision to the busier but less effective Ponce De Leon.

With his showings against Ponce De Leon and Jhonny Gonzalez, two fighters ranked highly in the boxing world, both punchers with Gonzalez being a good boxer as well, Penalosa has put himself into an elite position in the sport. In fact, he has shown himself so well that come the end of 2007 I think he will be a candidate for three awards from the bible of boxing, Ring magazine: comeback of the year, knockout of the year, and fight of the year.

to read more ... click http://www.maxboxing.com/conway/conway081507.asp

kadyo
08-22-2007, 12:55 AM
"bump"


woot!!! finally after those long years ... at long last ...

Gerry won a well deserve title belt!!!

you guys seen him as an aging fighter against ponce and gonzalez, no where near his prime but he still fought these young champs competitively...

now could you guys see what we pinoys see in him??
hahaha! now where the heck is jose?

Papa Ace
08-22-2007, 03:18 AM
Gerry Penalosa, with that one shot, achieved the seemingly impossible. A 35-year old in a division where fighters are usually washed up at the age of 30, Penalosa has beaten down two fighters so far in 2007. Back in March against WBO super bantamweight champion Daniel Ponce De Leon (who defeated Rey Bautista in the first on the same card as Penalosa-Gonzalez), Penalosa withstood an early storm from the hard punching Mexican but came back with precise counters. He threw enough hard stuff at Ponce De Leon that the champion for the first time in his career decided to turn into Sugar Ray Robinson. He danced and moved and jabbed, trying to keep Penalosa away. Although most ringside press appeared to have Penalosa winning, the judges didn’t see it that way and gave the decision to the busier but less effective Ponce De Leon.


this will have me laughing for weeks :lol1:

JOM'S
09-03-2008, 04:13 AM
"bump"

guys jsut bumping this thread enroute to the penalosa-mares fight, another fight that win or loose will showcase how good a fighter penalosa is...

JOM'S
09-03-2008, 04:14 AM
hope the winner gets a crack at bigger fights!

JOM'S
05-13-2009, 05:11 AM
although Gerry on his last fight with JML for the first time in his carreer did not finish a fight, Penalosa was not Koed nor KD by the bigger stronger younger champion JuanMa Lopez and had some moments in the fight...

After watching it I was not convinced that the corner should have stopped the fight, my thoughts that not only Gerry could have finished the fight but...

LUCKY I am not a trainer, as recent boxing deaths of a young fighter BJ Flores showed in hindsight Roach made the right decision...

here is an article giving props to the old man gerry!!!

http://maxboxing.com/Conway/Conway051309.asp

wizzies
05-17-2009, 12:17 AM
I really think hes a good fighter., very good in defensive.. I think he should retire now., he has nothing to prove.

We want Floyd
05-17-2009, 03:34 AM
GP had every punch in the book, and what a fluid fighter he was. PAC is more entertaining to watch, but if you wanna see what the Sweet Science is about, then watch a Gerry Penalosa fight, especially when he was younger.

JOM'S
02-14-2010, 02:14 AM
another fight another testament to how good Gerry is ...

http://fightfan.com/2010/02/eric-morel-edges-a-bloody-good-gerry-penalosa/

JOM'S
02-14-2010, 05:23 AM
http://queensberry-rules.com/2010-articles/february/nonito-donaire-and-fernando-montiel-win-by-early-blowout-eric-morel-and-bernabe-concepcion-win-close-fights.html

ERIC MOREL-GERRY PENALOSA

The Twitterati seemed to think this was either a clear Penalosa win or a close Penalosa win. My "alternative means" (ahem) of catching the fight sans DirecTV left me unable to view the 9th round, but I had Penalosa winning six of the rounds I watched.

So it's gotta be weird that one of the judges -- Jerry Roth, I believe -- scored it 116-112 for Morel, the deciding card in a split decision where the other two judges had it 115-113 for Morel and 115-113 for Penalosa. Sigh.

Like I said, both men could've done themselves favors by working harder in there. Why was Penalosa so conservative? Morel wasn't hitting him with anything hard -- mainly his jab, occasionally stepping forward with effective combos, but nothing that seemed to give Penalosa's chin much to think about. They swapped round through six on my card, almost all of them close, with the 8th being the first round anyone back-to-back, and that was Morel. But Penalosa finished strong, taking the 10th, 11th and 12th largely because, of the two, he was the aggressor. Morel simply wasn't "making" the fight.

I'm not sure where Penalosa goes from here; there was some talk of him retiring if he didn't win this fight, although the closeness of it -- and the general sense that he probably deserved the victory -- may give him a "grandfather" clause. Yes, I meant that as an old person joke, but Penalosa, at 38, is still a viable fighter. He had an opponent in front of him who was a style nightmare for him, given his history against boxer-mover types, and he nearly won it. And he did it despite two bad cuts from head butts.

Morel is once again set up to fight Montiel, as this was a fight for the interim version of the belt Montiel holds. Montiel-Morel has been scheduled, postponed and talked about for going on a zillion years, so we'll see if it happens, especially since Montiel hasn't mentioned Morel as the man he wants to fight next.

Mares
02-14-2010, 08:20 AM
gerry the most skilled and intelligent pinoy boxer of all time.... :cool2:

gerry > pac :D

hampak
02-14-2010, 11:14 PM
gerry the talented boxer

LeeVanCleef
02-15-2010, 12:06 AM
GERRY WUZ ROBBED !!!:grumble: