You guys are living in the past if you think they will dominate everone. Oscar and Shane would have problems with Spinks, Judah, Mayorga, Floyd, Zoo, and probally Cotto, Margarito, and Cintron also. Oscar & Shane are both much older now and past their primes. Oscar hasnt really outright won a fight in a long time besides a washedup Vargas. He got KO by Hopkins, he really lost to Sturm, and he lost to Mosley. He is much slower and weaker now and that wasnt just because of the weight. He has become a more fragile fighter with Mayweather training him.

Mosley lost 2 fights to Winky and 2 fights to Forrest so why do you think these guys will dominate these great fighters. They are much older now and they are lacking confidence. They werent even that great at 147 as you guys make it out to be. Mosley didnt beat 1 good fighter excepet for Oscar and the minute he stepped up he got destroyed by Forrest. Oscar at 147 also lost to Mosley, Tito, and really lost to Whitaker and I think he lost to Quartey so why do you keep acting like these guys were all world.

Theres no way that they would just walk through Spinks, Judah, Mayorga, Floyd, and Zoo. Actually I would pick both of them to lose most of these fights. Both of them are very easy to hit now and neither has that great speed anymore. Another thing is 147 might be to small for them. They are both so fake. The whole time they were saying that theres no way they could make 147 again but now all of asuddend they act like it's a piece of cake. Give me a break. They will be better at 147 but I still dont think there good enough to beat the top guys I named on the first list and definatly not good enough to blow any of them away

I think you're forgetting just how good they we're at a lower weight....

I think you're forgetting just how good they we're at a lower weight....
Im not forgetting and I definatly dont want to disrespect them because I think they were great fighters, but they werent unbeatable and I dont want others to keep disrespecting the guys who are at 140-147 now because they are better then people give them credit for

Another thread in which DLT found a way to mention PBFs name in. :D

Floyd is too small.DLH and Mosely would both beat him and probably Knock him out.

Another thread in which DLT found a way to mention PBFs name in. :D

Floyd is too small.DLH and Mosely would both beat him and probably Knock him out.
When was the last time they knocked someone out and when have you seen Floyd KO. Until that happeneds then you cant say that. You act likes he's 3 divisions away. but let me guess; they wouldnt knock the others out would they?

When was the last time they knocked someone out and when have you seen Floyd KO. Until that happeneds then you cant say that. You act likes he's 3 divisions away. but let me guess; they wouldnt knock the others out would they?


Wait until PBF actually beats a top5 140 pound fighter before saying he'd give DLH and Mosely problems.At the pace PBFs going in his career,he wont fight Mosely or DLH in another 5yrs,then maybe i'd give him a shot at beating both.Right now,DLH and Mosely would kill him at 147

Wait until PBF actually beats a top5 140 pound fighter before saying he'd give DLH and Mosely problems.At the pace PBFs going in his career,he wont fight Mosely or DLH in another 5yrs,then maybe i'd give him a shot at beating both.Right now,DLH and Mosely would kill him at 147
I want you to name one fighter at 140 who has fought someone in the top 5. The only one you could say is Zoo and you cant even really say that because he hasnt beanten any of the top guys there now like Floyd, Hatton, Cotto, Gatti, or Harris. Floyd beat Chop in his first fight which is a bigger win then any of the others besides Zoo. Look man, I know you dont like Floyd and you know where I stand in this debate but this thread isnt about him so lets keep it on the topic. Damn, are you going to do this everytime I make a thread?

I think Mosley is the only fighter I would pick to KO Mayweather.

I think Mosley is the only fighter I would pick to KO Mayweather.
I cant see it. Mosley is a great fighter but is overated because he looks furious when he swings but if you keep your guard up it wont hurt you and he has a horrible defense. I think Floyd wins this one. By the way what do you think of what I said about Shane and Oscar dominating?

Im not forgetting and I definatly dont want to disrespect them because I think they were great fighters, but they werent unbeatable and I dont want others to keep disrespecting the guys who are at 140-147 now because they are better then people give them credit for

Both DLH and Mosley can still dominate 147. The only guy I see giving Oscar a hard time stylewise is Judah, mainly cuz he's a fast southpaw. When being boxed, Cotto's short arms are rendered ineffective. I don't know how much of Tszyu's power would carry over at 147 and I think the weight would be too much for Mayweather. Spinks is way too weak to hurt either fighter who already tasted a lot stronger punches at a higher weight class.

I don't think either man is easy to hit, specially DLH. They would be a lot quicker now at 147 than at 154. They have very sound skills and they also have the experience. They will both dominate...

I don't think they can dominate, like beating all those guys. But I do believe Oscar or Shane can gain the titles of the winner of Spinks/Judah. Defending the titles is a different story. Judah is an easy fight for both Oscar and Shane. Spinks on the other hand is pretty slick and can pose problems for both guys. I would pick Oscar or Shane to win still. The rest fo the guys would have to dominate Oscar or Shane like winning by KO. I don't see them getting a decision on these two guys unless it's a blowout. Oscar has never been blownout and Shane has once but against a guy that has his number. Big factor for both guys is that the judges love them.

Main thing though is we have to see what effect the weight loss will have on both fighters.

it's possible but don't forget cotto, mayweather and spinks plus I can see oscar dominate but mosley will have to prove himself. I hope vargas will knock everybody out but thet maybe won't happen : to small at middle

Both DLH and Mosley can still dominate 147. The only guy I see giving Oscar a hard time stylewise is Judah, mainly cuz he's a fast southpaw. When being boxed, Cotto's short arms are rendered ineffective. I don't know how much of Tszyu's power would carry over at 147 and I think the weight would be too much for Mayweather. Spinks is way too weak to hurt either fighter who already tasted a lot stronger punches at a higher weight class.

I don't think either man is easy to hit, specially DLH. They would be a lot quicker now at 147 than at 154. They have very sound skills and they also have the experience. They will both dominate...
DLH has been very easy to hit latley. Also no matter what you say these guys are still past their prime so to think they will easily beat all these young top notch fighters is crazy. They wont be super fast at these weights because they are older and you have to also remember that these other guys are also super fast. If you dont look faster then the bigger slower guys at 154-160 then why would you look so much faster then the guys at 147. Also Spinks is better then you give him credit for. What does power mean? Ali and Sweet Pea didnt have power. Thats what everyone said when he fought Mayorga, that he wouldnt be able to hold him off with that weak power but what happened. Boxing is an art. Also Mayorga is coming back to 147 and they wont dominate him

I think DLH and Mosely are too strong and too skilled for anyone currently in 140-147. They both have tested chins and have faced far superior competition than they will the 2nd go around. Can Spinks deal with Shanes strength and hand speed? He just barely got by Zab. Can Spinks out box and out punch Oscar no way.

DLH has been very easy to hit latley. Also no matter what you say these guys are still past their prime so to think they will easily beat all these young top notch fighters is crazy. They wont be super fast at these weights because they are older and you have to also remember that these other guys are also super fast. If you dont look faster then the bigger slower guys at 154-160 then why would you look so much faster then the guys at 147. Also Spinks is better then you give him credit for. What does power mean? Ali and Sweet Pea didnt have power. Thats what everyone said when he fought Mayorga, that he wouldnt be able to hold him off with that weak power but what happened. Boxing is an art. Also Mayorga is coming back to 147 and they wont dominate him

K I KNOW you didn't just say Ali had no power :confused: Anyweyz, Spinks ain't no Whitaker. If he was able to outbox Mayorga, DLH can make the latter look like a fool. Man has more skills and tricks than Corey. Power don't mean much if you have the speed advantage to cope with it. But if you don't have power and the guy you're facing is just as fast, you won't get far. DLH and Mosley will never be as quick as when they were at their prime but I wouldn't exactly call them "slow".

Those bigger and "slower" guys were at their natural weight. Winky's been at 154 forever, Hopkins ain't slow and Sturm had a lazer jab. DLH and Mosely aren't at their natural weight so OF COURSE they will be slower than they once were. At 147, they will be much more competitive. They moved up weight to seek tougher competition because they were able to dominate at a lower weight class. Now they're back and trust me, they WILL dominate.

I think DLH and Mosely are too strong and too skilled for anyone currently in 140-147. They both have tested chins and have faced far superior competition than they will the 2nd go around. Can Spinks deal with Shanes strength and hand speed? He just barely got by Zab. Can Spinks out box and out punch Oscar no way.

Exactly. At 147 they both have more speed and power. deadly combination.

K I KNOW you didn't just say Ali had no power :confused: Anyweyz, Spinks ain't no Whitaker. If he was able to outbox Mayorga, DLH can make the latter look like a fool. Man has more skills and tricks than Corey. Power don't mean much if you have the speed advantage to cope with it. But if you don't have power and the guy you're facing is just as fast, you won't get far. DLH and Mosley will never be as quick as when they were at their prime but I wouldn't exactly call them "slow".

Those bigger and "slower" guys were at their natural weight. Winky's been at 154 forever, Hopkins ain't slow and Sturm had a lazer jab. DLH and Mosely aren't at their natural weight so OF COURSE they will be slower than they once were. At 147, they will be much more competitive. They moved up weight to seek tougher competition because they were able to dominate at a lower weight class. Now they're back and trust me, they WILL dominate.
Ali doesn have hardly any power so I dont know what your talking about and as far as Shane and Oscar moving up because the were dominating 147 did you read my first thread. They moved up because they were losing. Oscar lost to Tito and Shane and really lost to Whittaker and probally Quartey. Shane had just lost twice to Forrest so where do you get this domination from

If you saw Oscar fight Whitaker there is no way you can say Oscar lost. Oscar beat the total **** out of Whit. Oscars fights against Shane were close but Shane did beat him. The tito fight Oscar won hands down. Come on bro.....put down the corona and weed. Get some coffee in you now.:)

If you saw Oscar fight Whitaker there is no way you can say Oscar lost. Oscar beat the total **** out of Whit. Oscars fights against Shane were close but Shane did beat him. The tito fight Oscar won hands down. Come on bro.....put down the corona and weed. Get some coffee in you now.:)
What are you talking about? Most who saw that fight thought that Sweet Pea won and alot of people also thought that Quartey won. Put down the crack :)

Ali doesn have hardly any power so I dont know what your talking about and as far as Shane and Oscar moving up because the were dominating 147 did you read my first thread. They moved up because they were losing. Oscar lost to Tito and Shane and really lost to Whittaker and probally Quartey. Shane had just lost twice to Forrest so where do you get this domination from

Ali had a 60% KO percentage in which FOREMAN, LISTON & FRAZIER were among his victims. And you're saying he hardly had power?!?!?! It ain't even worth debating with someone with your mentality...

Ali had a 60% KO percentage in which FOREMAN, LISTON & FRAZIER were among his victims. And you're saying he hardly had power?!?!?! It ain't even worth debating with someone with your mentality...
He didnt KO Frazier. The Liston fights were flukes as far as the knock downs go and the Foreman fight wasnt because of power. Anyone who has watched Ali knows he doesnt have great power. Floyd hit's harder and has a solid KO percentage too so whats your point clown. Make a thread about power and anyone will tell you that Ali didnt have tremendous power. You talk like he was Tyson or something and how come you didnt respond to the rest of it because you know that you were wrong idiot

He didnt KO Frazier. The Liston fights were flukes as far as the knock downs go and the Foreman fight wasnt because of power. Anyone who has watched Ali knows he doesnt have great power. Floyd hit's harder and has a solid KO percentage too so whats your point clown. Make a thread about power and anyone will tell you that Ali didnt have tremendous power. You talk like he was Tyson or something

When did I say he had TREMENNDOUS power. I just said he HAD power. You however made him sound featherfisted. Please kid, start making sense.

When did I say he had TREMENNDOUS power. I just said he HAD power. You however made him sound featherfisted. Please kid, start making sense.
Im not a kid littile boy. He was closer to being featerfisted then he was to being a KO artist. His KO percentage wasnt as high as you make it seem. Thats not a great percantage for a guy who has power. He certainly didnt have more then Floyd and you dont call him a power puncher

I think DLH will get KO'd just like what happened to RJJr.

I think DLH will get KO'd just like what happened to RJJr.
I hope Cintron could do it.

I think DLH will get KO'd just like what happened to RJJr.

I also reckon Oscar is shot, but he'll never be knocked cold - he has a very solid chin.

Man Floyd is my favorite fighter besides RJJ and i know Mosley and Dlh would give him fits.

When was the last time they knocked someone out and when have you seen Floyd KO. Until that happeneds then you cant say that. You act likes he's 3 divisions away. but let me guess; they wouldnt knock the others out would they?
Trust me d if Castillo can rock his world Delahoya will do worst.I think Floyd lost both fights to Castillo the first one there was no way i HELL he won it.Delahoya would ko little Maywathear in 5 the most.

Man Floyd is my favorite fighter besides RJJ and i know Mosley and Dlh would give him fits.
Fits u mean tits and a pus... Mayweather is to small for these guys. Think of it this way These guys struggle to go down to 140 and Mayweather struggles to go up to 140

I also reckon Oscar is shot, but he'll never be knocked cold - he has a very solid chin.
Dont think its the chin its his speed and defense. If he where to take two solid punches in a row by Trinidad he would be out cold trust me.

Ali doesn have hardly any power so I dont know what your talking

OMIGAD!!!! :eek: Did you really say that :confused:

Please read:

Sonny Liston
George Foreman

PS: I agree DLH and Mosley wont dominate @ 147. they're too old to do that. and also remember Roy Jones from 193 ?

Im not a kid littile boy. He was closer to being featerfisted then he was to being a KO artist. His KO percentage wasnt as high as you make it seem. Thats not a great percantage for a guy who has power. He certainly didnt have more then Floyd and you dont call him a power puncher
uh ali was a heavyweight. I'm pretty sure he hit harder than floyd

Shane Mosley sucks and should retire.

uh ali was a heavyweight. I'm pretty sure he hit harder than floyd
Im talkin about P4P

OMIGAD!!!! :eek: Did you really say that :confused:

Please read:

Sonny Liston
George Foreman

PS: I agree DLH and Mosley wont dominate @ 147. they're too old to do that. and also remember Roy Jones from 193 ?
Did you see the punches he hit them with, they were love taps. Espically Liston, thats why people think the fights were rigged

Trust me d if Castillo can rock his world Delahoya will do worst.I think Floyd lost both fights to Castillo the first one there was no way i HELL he won it.Delahoya would ko little Maywathear in 5 the most.
Your just mad because Morales got his ass whooped and wouldve lost to Chaves if he had 2 hands

I cant see it. Mosley is a great fighter but is overated because he looks furious when he swings but if you keep your guard up it wont hurt you and he has a horrible defense. I think Floyd wins this one. By the way what do you think of what I said about Shane and Oscar dominating?
I think I could beat Miguel Angel Gonzalez now. Thats what I think.

I think I could beat Miguel Angel Gonzalez now. Thats what I think.
What's that suppose to mean? I know your not talking about Spinks like he doesnt have 2 huge wins

What's that suppose to mean? I know your not talking about Spinks like he doesnt have 2 huge wins
Mayorga lucked out with Forrest, as Forrest wasn't as invincible as once thought. Judah is a complete idiot who is more interested in dancing and smiling than he is throwing punches. Mayorga and Judah aren't exactly Hearns and Leonard. Spinks hasn't beaten anyone yet. If he beats a DLH or Mosley, then I'll give him respect.

Mayorga lucked out with Forrest, as Forrest wasn't as invincible as once thought. Judah is a complete idiot who is more interested in dancing and smiling than he is throwing punches. Mayorga and Judah aren't exactly Hearns and Leonard. Spinks hasn't beaten anyone yet. If he beats a DLH or Mosley, then I'll give him respect.
Did you see how good Mayorga did against Tito all the way at 160. Mayorga would probally knock Shane and Oscar out. Who has Shane beat except for Oscar? Name one good fighter, and not to mention he got destroyed twice by Forrest, and Winky. When was the last time Oscar looked good? He got KO by Hopkins, really lost to Sturm, lost to Mosley, beat a washed up Vargas but didnt look that good, lost to Tito, lost to Mosley, argubally lost to Quartey, and really lost to Whittaker. You act like these guys were dominating 147. The both left with 2 recent losses

Your just mad because Morales got his ass whooped and wouldve lost to Chaves if he had 2 hands
I dont really like Morales. I will go for him unless he is fighting Barrera or some of the other top fighters in his weight. Right now im representing my Raza.

Did you see how good Mayorga did against Tito all the way at 160. Mayorga would probally knock Shane and Oscar out. Who has Shane beat except for Oscar? Name one good fighter, and not to mention he got destroyed twice by Forrest, and Winky. When was the last time Oscar looked good? He got KO by Hopkins, really lost to Sturm, lost to Mosley, beat a washed up Vargas but didnt look that good, lost to Tito, lost to Mosley, argubally lost to Quartey, and really lost to Whittaker. You act like these guys were dominating 147. The both left with 2 recent losses
Shane Mosley looked incredible against John John Molina, that was an incredible body shot he landed. DLH was so underzized at 154 and 160, I gave him a pass on some of his subpar performances. DLH was humiliating Tito until he self destructed. Losing to Whitaker, what a shame. I had Quartey with a 6-5 advantage going into the 12th, and DLH showed his championship heart in that round. Spinks benefitted from some questionable calls from the referee against Spinks. The hitting after the bell and the other deduction were bogus, and the "push" call n the 12th was actually a knockdown. Plus Mayorga was the aggressor, and that should've given him the edge in some of the nondescript rounds.

Shane Mosley looked incredible against John John Molina, that was an incredible body shot he landed. DLH was so underzized at 154 and 160, I gave him a pass on some of his subpar performances. DLH was humiliating Tito until he self destructed. Losing to Whitaker, what a shame. I had Quartey with a 6-5 advantage going into the 12th, and DLH showed his championship heart in that round. Spinks benefitted from some questionable calls from the referee against Spinks. The hitting after the bell and the other deduction were bogus, and the "push" call n the 12th was actually a knockdown. Plus Mayorga was the aggressor, and that should've given him the edge in some of the nondescript rounds.
Me and you usally agree on most things so I wont argue with you. I dont think Spinks is the greatest fighter in the world but I dont see Mosley or Oscar blowing him away. I thought you were one of the few who are like me and like the boxing side of it. Mayorga was agressive but he was missing and hitting Spinks in the back of the head

I dont really like Morales. I will go for him unless he is fighting Barrera or some of the other top fighters in his weight. Right now im representing my Raza.
Its all good man, I just thought you were hatin on Floyd a littile too hard

Me and you usally agree on most things so I wont argue with you. I dont think Spinks is the greatest fighter in the world but I dont see Mosley or Oscar blowing him away. I thought you were one of the few who are like me and like the boxing side of it. Mayorga was agressive but he was missing and hitting Spinks in the back of the head
Hey, I enjoy a good boxer with science and all, I'm just saying it means nothing to beat Mayorga and Judah when you juxtapose it to the resumes' of De La Hoya and Mosley. Spinks makes Spadafora look like Gatti.

I think you're not quite right, but not entirely wrong either. They're both going to be more successful than they would at any other weight. But neither of them is going to be the champ he was before. Still, I would be De la Hoya or Mosley to beat both Judah and Spinks, and the list of contenders that you had up there included quite a few junior welters. Saying that in order to dominate a division you also have to beat everyone in the division below it is a little insane. Still, I see what you're getting at.

When was the last time they knocked someone out and when have you seen Floyd KO. Until that happeneds then you cant say that. You act likes he's 3 divisions away. but let me guess; they wouldnt knock the others out would they?
PBF @ 140lbs and DLh was @ 160, so that leaves 140,147,154 and 160, so yeah 3 division away, but now since both Dlh and Mosley will go back to 147 lbs, maybe PBF might get a chance to face one of them, DLH said he would never fight him,because of his trainer and Mosley, I am sure that mosley would beat PBF via KO/Tko,

PBF @ 140lbs and DLh was @ 160, so that leaves 140,147,154 and 160, so yeah 3 division away, but now since both Dlh and Mosley will go back to 147 lbs, maybe PBF might get a chance to face one of them, DLH said he would never fight him,because of his trainer and Mosley, I am sure that mosley would beat PBF via KO/Tko,
I'd agree, the size difference is just too much

What size difference? There bigger but Floyd has been boxing bigger guys his whole life. He has a style where he can go up to the higher weights. If you think Shane and Oscar would dominate him and KO him then your crazy. Your just saying that because it's Oscar and Shane. If it was Forrest then you wouldnt say that he would KO Floyd but yet he destroyed Mosley and most had him favored to beat Oscar if they wouldve met. My point is that Shane wasnt as good as people thought. He lost at 147. People are acting like he didnt lose until he moved up to 154. He hasnt beaten one good fighter except for Oscar. If you think that Oscar will KO Floyd then your crazy. Gatti even looked good against a prime Oscar at 147 but he was too small. Now take a prime Mayweather against a past his prime Oscar and you think he will KO him. Gatti hit him way more then a great fighter should be hit

What size difference? There bigger but Floyd has been boxing bigger guys his whole life. He has a style where he can go up to the higher weights. If you think Shane and Oscar would dominate him and KO him then your crazy. Your just saying that because it's Oscar and Shane. If it was Forrest then you wouldnt say that he would KO Floyd but yet he destroyed Mosley and most had him favored to beat Oscar if they wouldve met. My point is that Shane wasnt as good as people thought. He lost at 147. People are acting like he didnt lose until he moved up to 154. He hasnt beaten one good fighter except for Oscar. If you think that Oscar will KO Floyd then your crazy. Gatti even looked good against a prime Oscar at 147 but he was too small. Now take a prime Mayweather against a past his prime Oscar and you think he will KO him. Gatti hit him way more then a great fighter should be hit
man DLT you must really know what you are talking about, Damn how do you do it?

De La Hoya landed 195 of 313 total punches (62%), while Gatti landed only 87 of 308 (28%).

Gatti was down in the 1st round by an Oscar De la hoya Uppercutt and was stopped in the 5th.

And both Gatti and PBF are 5'8" Gatti has 70" in reach while PBF has 72"

I am not saying that DLH will KO/TKO PBF that fast,but it is likely,Last 2 guys that DLH KO/TKO was a juiced up Vargas and a Yori Boy Campas, both hard hitters and faced them in his last 5 fights

Did you see how good Mayorga did against Tito all the way at 160. Mayorga would probally knock Shane and Oscar out. Who has Shane beat except for Oscar? Name one good fighter, and not to mention he got destroyed twice by Forrest, and Winky. When was the last time Oscar looked good? He got KO by Hopkins, really lost to Sturm, lost to Mosley, beat a washed up Vargas but didnt look that good, lost to Tito, lost to Mosley, argubally lost to Quartey, and really lost to Whittaker. You act like these guys were dominating 147. The both left with 2 recent losses

WASHED UP VARGAS? He was ****ing 25!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i have no doubt that DLH can be one of the best NOW at welter...that is if he can actually make it down that low.....but mosley im still not sure...........he just doesnt throw enough combos to be effective

man DLT you must really know what you are talking about, Damn how do you do it?

De La Hoya landed 195 of 313 total punches (62%), while Gatti landed only 87 of 308 (28%).

Gatti was down in the 1st round by an Oscar De la hoya Uppercutt and was stopped in the 5th.

And both Gatti and PBF are 5'8" Gatti has 70" in reach while PBF has 72"

I am not saying that DLH will KO/TKO PBF that fast,but it is likely,Last 2 guys that DLH KO/TKO was a juiced up Vargas and a Yori Boy Campas, both hard hitters and faced them in his last 5 fights
Vargas was washed up and Campas was a 100 years old

WASHED UP VARGAS? He was ****ing 25!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why do you think that Vargas stop fighting? because he was washed up. Age doesnt have nothing to do with it. Tito ruined him. He hasnt looked worth **** since that fight. He got dropped in his first fight after that and when he fought Tony Marshall he looked like ****. I actually thought that Marshall had a good chance of beating him and that's sad because if you heard Marshall talk then you know that theres no way this guy should be fighting. He sounds worst than Meldrick Taylor

I dont think vargas is washed up, wasnt he just injuired? He did look pretty good against DLH in the beginning rds. I dont really think shane will dominate as much as DLh will. i think that if mayorga goes to 147 he will beat them both. DLh has to box like he did against trinidad to beat mayo and he really hasnt done that since that fight. theres also 4 or 5 guys that will give them plenty of competition.

Tszyu is a junior welter that hits as hard as a middle. if he went up to welter, at worst his power would be that of a junior middle, which puts him in the same field as the rest. why you wouldn't back him over anyone in these divisions i don't know. KT all the way.

YES OBVIOUSLY DLH & MOSLEY will become top DAWGS @ 147lbs. But can they stay disciplined enough to make weight is the question.

Floyd cannot beat DLH or Mosley unless DLH or Mosley get hit in the "liver". You guys know what i'm referencing.

Dlh Was Great At Welterweight!!!!
He Only Lost To Mosley!!!
Trinidad Win Was A Robbery!!!

DLH needs to go to 147

Mosley needs to go to 135-140(dont think he can make that)

You guys are living in the past if you think they will dominate everone. Oscar and Shane would have problems with Spinks, Judah, Mayorga, Floyd, Zoo, and probally Cotto, Margarito, and Cintron also. Oscar & Shane are both much older now and past their primes. Oscar hasnt really outright won a fight in a long time besides a washedup Vargas. He got KO by Hopkins, he really lost to Sturm, and he lost to Mosley. He is much slower and weaker now and that wasnt just because of the weight. He has become a more fragile fighter with Mayweather training him.

Mosley lost 2 fights to Winky and 2 fights to Forrest so why do you think these guys will dominate these great fighters. They are much older now and they are lacking confidence. They werent even that great at 147 as you guys make it out to be. Mosley didnt beat 1 good fighter excepet for Oscar and the minute he stepped up he got destroyed by Forrest. Oscar at 147 also lost to Mosley, Tito, and really lost to Whitaker and I think he lost to Quartey so why do you keep acting like these guys were all world.

Theres no way that they would just walk through Spinks, Judah, Mayorga, Floyd, and Zoo. Actually I would pick both of them to lose most of these fights. Both of them are very easy to hit now and neither has that great speed anymore. Another thing is 147 might be to small for them. They are both so fake. The whole time they were saying that theres no way they could make 147 again but now all of asuddend they act like it's a piece of cake. Give me a break. They will be better at 147 but I still dont think there good enough to beat the top guys I named on the first list and definatly not good enough to blow any of them away


I believe you are right. They will be more competitive here than in the higher weight class . . . .but with the presence of all the good fighters mentioned they won't be able to DOMINATE anymore. With the exception of PBF . . . . who I think is too small at 147.