i saw this fight last week on tape. tito
really loss this fight and i hate oscar
delahoya. how can you lose to a pretty boy
like oscar delahoya? i thought tito was good
but after this i dont know. I can't stand that
oscar delahoya but the judges ripped him off.

You must be ****ing ugly to hate pretty boys. Oscar has skills and your an idiot if you can't see that. No shame in losing against him. I watched the fight again last night.

i saw this fight last week on tape. tito
really loss this fight and i hate oscar
delahoya. how can you lose to a pretty boy
like oscar delahoya? i thought tito was good
but after this i dont know. I can't stand that
oscar delahoya but the judges ripped him off.


Officially its a loss on Oscar's record, but I dare you to find one non-puerto rican that thinks Tito really won the fight. Oscar made Tito look foolish for the first 9 rounds, easily.

Officially its a loss on Oscar's record, but I dare you to find one non-puerto rican that thinks Tito really won the fight. Oscar made Tito look foolish for the first 9 rounds, easily.

Actually I saw the more i see the fight the less i see DeLaHoya connect with his punches. He moved very well but I don't think there was a HUGE discrepancy in the offensive attack even if DeLaHoya apparently "landed' 150 more punhes. He was destroying tito with the jab but I saw the latter connect witha few shots of his own. I saw Oscar winning by prolly 2 rounds or so.

Actually I saw the more i see the fight the less i see DeLaHoya connect with his punches. He moved very well but I don't think there was a HUGE discrepancy in the offensive attack even if DeLaHoya apparently "landed' 150 more punhes. He was destroying tito with the jab but I saw the latter connect witha few shots of his own. I saw Oscar winning by prolly 2 rounds or so.


same here. Tito didnt even seem try to get away from that jab, and yes, he did land a few shots of his own. But that's why he didnt deserve to win, it was a few. Oh well, there have been worse decisions.

Officially its a loss on Oscar's record, but I dare you to find one non-puerto rican that thinks Tito really won the fight. Oscar made Tito look foolish for the first 9 rounds, easily.


Alot of people had it a draw. Fight was close and no one deserved to win so live with it. Oscar ran when he sensed danger, and thats all you need to know. Oscar didn't finish the fight because he didn't want to fight anymore and he deserves to win? Yeah sure maybe to a Mexican-american. I feel sorry for the people who actually paid alot of money to see this live in person and the million + people who baught this PPV. Oscar should of finished the fight like a man. I guess after all the money he got it finally went to his head.

Oscar was afraid of Tito, DLH nutt-huggers always bring up this its funny "Oscar made tito look foolish...*cough* *pause* for 9 rounds" Lol. Come on don't be shy Dela-hermys lets talk about the running for once since its something you always avoid. :D And I had it a draw, and felt no-one should of won however I'm not losing any sleep over what happened because DLH got what he deserved.

Alot of people had it a draw. Fight was close and no one deserved to win so live with it. Oscar ran when he sensed danger, and thats all you need to know. Oscar didn't finish the fight because he didn't want to fight anymore and he deserves to win? Yeah sure maybe to a Mexican-american. I feel sorry for the people who actually paid alot of money to see this live in person and the million + people who baught this PPV. Oscar should of finished the fight like a man. I guess after all the money he got it finally went to his head.

Oscar was afraid of Tito, DLH nutt-huggers always bring up this its funny "Oscar made tito look foolish...*cough* *pause* for 9 rounds" Lol. Come on don't be shy Dela-hermys lets talk about the running for once since its something you always avoid. :D And I had it a draw, and felt no-one should of won however I'm not losing any sleep over what happened because DLH got what he deserved.

summed up teh fight to the T. NO-ONE deserved to win. There should be a decision called Double Fault and put an L on both fighters record.

I had it a draw after 15 times that I saw the fight.

Alot of people had it a draw. Fight was close and no one deserved to win so live with it. Oscar ran when he sensed danger, and thats all you need to know. Oscar didn't finish the fight because he didn't want to fight anymore and he deserves to win? Yeah sure maybe to a Mexican-american. I feel sorry for the people who actually paid alot of money to see this live in person and the million + people who baught this PPV. Oscar should of finished the fight like a man. I guess after all the money he got it finally went to his head.

Oscar was afraid of Tito, DLH nutt-huggers always bring up this its funny "Oscar made tito look foolish...*cough* *pause* for 9 rounds" Lol. Come on don't be shy Dela-hermys lets talk about the running for once since its something you always avoid. And I had it a draw, and felt no-one should of won however I'm not losing any sleep over what happened because DLH got what he deserved.


I also believed it was a draw.

i know oscar won and i dont even like him

Dela hoya threw that fight away. i think it was a good decision.

Stfu with the no one deserved to win bull****..
Oscar won that fight...this is coming from the biggest Tito fan on that board..












YAY TITO!!!!

Officially its a loss on Oscar's record, but I dare you to find one non-puerto rican that thinks Tito really won the fight. Oscar made Tito look foolish for the first 9 rounds, easily.

man Godz i'm getting tired of ur bull****
u alwayz talk like all Puertoricans think the same...
fo yur info, many ppl here in PR think that DLH won that fight
and some think that Tito won it..."find one non-puerto rican that thinks Tito won the fight" WTF...

I think that the fight was close...but how you win a fight running scared of being hit the last 4 rnds???

I had it a draw as well.There were too many rounds where DLH waited just so he can steal the round in the last 30seconds.Tito did land shots,it's just DLH was more flashier when he landed his.I had it 5-5 with 2 even rounds.I'm glad DLH lost because a true champ fights the entire 12rds.

summed up teh fight to the T. NO-ONE deserved to win. There should be a decision called Double Fault and put an L on both fighters record.

Interesting proposition there mooks :cool:

man Godz i'm getting tired of ur bull****
u alwayz talk like all Puertoricans think the same...
fo yur info, many ppl here in PR think that DLH won that fight
and some think that Tito won it..."find one non-puerto rican that thinks Tito won the fight" WTF...

I think that the fight was close...but how you win a fight running scared of being hit the last 4 rnds???


my bull****? I have yet to meet or hear from a puerto rican boxing fan that thinks Oscar won that fight. And I have yet to meet a non puerto rican fan that thinks Tito won the fight.It's just a fact. I'm not talking ****. It's true. I have yet to meet one. So relax, take some nyquil or something. Are you still angry about that whole Hopkins/Tito thread?

Interesting proposition there mooks :cool:

****ing **** Trilla I've been trying to give you karma for at least 3 months now and it STILL says I have to spread it around :mad:

DLH clearly won that fight...
I couldn't believe it when the judges gave it to Tito.
Second DLH vs Mosley fight too...

Yo, Borikua, who do you like better, Tito or Cotto?

Yo, Borikua, who do you like better, Tito or Cotto?

I like both...IMO Cotto has better overall skillz...but Tito is more exciting to watch...I like more hard hitters like Tito, Tszyu, Mike, etc than slick boxers like Spinks, DLH...

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my bull****? I have yet to meet or hear from a puerto rican boxing fan that thinks Oscar won that fight. And I have yet to meet a non puerto rican fan that thinks Tito won the fight.It's just a fact. I'm not talking ****. It's true. I have yet to meet one. So relax, take some nyquil or something. Are you still angry about that whole Hopkins/Tito thread?

It seems that u don't know many PRicans...Angry bout the Hopkins/Tito thread? don't know wat u mean...

I just don't understand some **** like when you said to me " let's just hope that Tito stays away from Nard"...fuk that I'm a boxing fan, I dont care if he gets hurt if he fights Nard...It's boxing! that's why the get paid...to fight!So you prefer to see Nard fight someone like Allen again instead of a mega fight with Tito?

I'm not puerto rican and I think the fight was a draw. The idiot HBO team was all over DLH's nuts for landing nothing. Both fighters barely did ****, and DLH ran at the end. I have no real problem with the decision.

It seems that u don't know many PRicans...Angry bout the Hopkins/Tito thread? don't know wat u mean...

I just don't understand some **** like when you said to me " let's just hope that Tito stays away from Nard"...fuk that I'm a boxing fan, I dont care if he gets hurt if he fights Nard...It's boxing! that's why the get paid...to fight!So you prefer to see Nard fight someone like Allen again instead of a mega fight with Tito?


No, I want Tito's return to last. Hopkins is going to send him right back into retirement.

Keep wishing, and hopeing, Trinidad KO 9 rd Hopkins.

Keep wishing, and hopeing, Trinidad KO 9 rd Hopkins.



If he can't even beat that
pretty boy Delahoya. There is no way
he can beat B-Hop.

DLH lost to Quarty but he won officially and then he beat Tito but lost officially. Makes perfect sense.

If he can't even beat that
pretty boy Delahoya. There is no way
he can beat B-Hop.

what are u doing kid..go to room...Or I will call ur mami and she will go mike tyson on ur little culito...

No, I want Tito's return to last. Hopkins is going to send him right back into retirement.

Why u want his return to last if he doesn't fight the best?

What is better for Nard? Finish his career with a mega fight against Tito? or fighting another mandatory?

Oscar De La Hoya got what he deserved. One doesn't get paid a king's ransom for millions worldwide to pay $40-$50-$60 for PPV to watch you run scared during the championship rounds. This is a big black mark on his storied career and deservedly so regardless of how well he performed during the first 8-9rounds.

People think De La Hoya won easily because of the way he dominated rounds 5-8, forgetting that rounds 1, 2, and 9 were very close, with Trinidad winning round 4 easily as well as the last three rounds. And after watching the fight numerous times, I see that a lot of the DLH punches the crowd and Lampley went wild about actually landed on gloves or arms. With that said, I still have DLH winning the fight by a point. But if that was a boxing lesson, it was a half-assed one as he used up energy moving excessively, simply tried to steal the early rounds with flurries at the end of them, and of course ran the last 11 minutes of the fight based on what he did in rounds 5-8. What Hopkins did to Tito was the quintessential boxing lesson.

tito definately looked drained for that fight, but ODLH definately outclassed him.

yea that fight was pretty bad..the sad part was the fight wasnt even close...de la hoya won 9 rounds to 3

People think De La Hoya won easily because of the way he dominated rounds 5-8, forgetting that rounds 1, 2, and 9 were very close, with Trinidad winning round 4 easily as well as the last three rounds. And after watching the fight numerous times, I see that a lot of the DLH punches the crowd and Lampley went wild about actually landed on gloves or arms. With that said, I still have DLH winning the fight by a point. But if that was a boxing lesson, it was a half-assed one as he used up energy moving excessively, simply tried to steal the early rounds with flurries at the end of them, and of course ran the last 11 minutes of the fight based on what he did in rounds 5-8. What Hopkins did to Tito was the quintessential boxing lesson.
totally agree mate...saved me saying the same thing :rolleyes:

DLH won IMO but no way DLH took the first 9rds..
but he did run for the last 3-4 so im not fussed he lost the decision.
b-hop showed how its done

chheech306 copied this
thread.

Did he butcher the English language in the title like you did ?

Did he butcher the English language in the title like you did ?




what do you mean?

I had the fight 7 rds to 4 one even De La Hoya!

I've watched that fight many times over and I'll tell you I scored it a draw. Oscar did land many more punches, but they were jabs. He did not land any power shots of meaning. He stopped boxing and just ran the last four (4) rounds of the fight. Tito did nothing but chase Oscar like a fool, he never used his head to trick Oscar into a fight. Oscar did not lose the fight, he lost because he never fought for the glory of the moment. This fight was hyped more than any fight in 20 years. The press, fans and experts were salivating and Oscar did not fight when the fight was in the championship rounds. Tito may not have looked pretty, but he did come to fight and the judges turned their noses away from the funk that Oscar was that night.

I've watched that fight many times over and I'll tell you I scored it a draw. Oscar did land many more punches, but they were jabs. He did not land any power shots of meaning. He stopped boxing and just ran the last four (4) rounds of the fight. Tito did nothing but chase Oscar like a fool, he never used his head to trick Oscar into a fight. Oscar did not lose the fight, he lost because he never fought for the glory of the moment. This fight was hyped more than any fight in 20 years. The press, fans and experts were salivating and Oscar did not fight when the fight was in the championship rounds. Tito may not have looked pretty, but he did come to fight and the judges turned their noses away from the funk that Oscar was that night.
GREAT POST!!!

Im puerto rican godhandz i dont think tito won the fight nor do i think he lost. it was a draw and the more people watch it the more people realize it. there have been alot of people that have the same thoughts about the fight that i do that arent pr

I think oscar should've won that fight. Tito can punch hard , it's true but oscar is the better fighter maybe not at middle weight. Don't get me wrong i'm not a oscar fan i'm a vargas fan. Even if you saw vargas - trinidad. I think vargas had won the fight if he hadn't received 2 low blows in his balls. So if Tito really lose these 2 fights he wouldn't be **** so we regard this guy over 2 things he accomplished that weren't fair. He gets to much credit for that . the only reason he lasted so long against hopkins ik because hopkins wasn't sure about trinidads power an d he finished him late. So boxing is really a bizar sport that people can get away with that **** and even get credit for it.

The judges are more trained than us to judge fights if Trinidad won then he won

The judges are more trained than us to judge fights if Trinidad won then he won

I trust my own judgement better than any Las Vegas judge.

Respect the thought. I can easily see how one would think that DLH won the fight. I, however, can live with the decision. Why? Because I think a champion should never win a fight running the last three rounds...ever. Just my thoughts.

does anyone think the running rounds should have been given 10-8 to tito?
if so then he is the winner, otherwise 8-4 or 7-5-1 dlh

I have no mex nor pr ancestors, relatives or friends as a matter of fact I did not live on the american continent until 5 months ago, so I am not biased, I don't cry if dlh is robbed cuz he makes soooo much money

but if fights are to be scored round by round based on clean punching, effective aggression, ring generalship, and defence... Well than no way I see tito winning

does anyone think the running rounds should have been given 10-8 to tito?
if so then he is the winner, otherwise 8-4 or 7-5-1 dlh

I have no mex nor pr ancestors, relatives or friends as a matter of fact I did not live on the american continent until 5 months ago, so I am not biased, I don't cry if dlh is robbed cuz he makes soooo much money

but if fights are to be scored round by round based on clean punching, effective aggression, ring generalship, and defence... Well than no way I see tito winning
Sometimes being there live can make a difference. I remember one guy telling us about the tarver johnson fight that i thought tarver won. He said that sitting ringside made a difference because of the sounds, johnson's body shots, tarver's heavy breathing, etc. I guess there's a lot of factors that sometimes we forget that might play into judging differently, especially cause we watch at home on our tvs.

i saw this fight last week on tape. tito
really loss this fight and i hate oscar
delahoya. how can you lose to a pretty boy
like oscar delahoya? i thought tito was good
but after this i dont know. I can't stand that
oscar delahoya but the judges ripped him off.
I cant agree with that...Tito won that fight....Oscar lost to Whitaker!

Sometimes being there live can make a difference. I remember one guy telling us about the tarver johnson fight that i thought tarver won. He said that sitting ringside made a difference because of the sounds, johnson's body shots, tarver's heavy breathing, etc. I guess there's a lot of factors that sometimes we forget that might play into judging differently, especially cause we watch at home on our tvs.

hmmm good point but if I remember well, it was not the case ppl ringside agreed with the decision

my opinion is

vegas(=bad calls)+
king(=bad calls)=
-------
very bad calls

but if fights are to be scored round by round based on clean punching, effective aggression, ring generalship, and defence... Well than no way I see tito winning

Well, let's break it down:

Round 1 - Neither man landed more than two clean blows. It could have gone either way, but the judges probably gave this to Tito for pressing the action.

Round 2 - Trinidad landed two or three hooks and a few jabs. De La Hoya didn't land anything but jabs until the last 10 seconds when he tried to steal the round with a flurry and a nice right hand. Another close round.

Round 4 - Easily Trinidad's. DLH didn't do much of anything here.

Round 9 - DLH lands three good combinations in the first minute and runs the final two minutes, during which Trinidad periodically pokes him with a right hand or chafes him with a left hook. An argument can be made for either man: DLH landed nice, clean blows with those early combos but didn't exactly endure himself to the judges by scampering around the ring for the rest of the round.

Rounds 10-12 - No explanation needed.

That's seven rounds that could have gone to Trinidad if the judges favored the aggressor, which they usually do. Personally, I have DLH winning by a point, but again, this sentiment that it's impossible to see how Trinidad could have won is based primarily on what DLH did in rounds 5-8. He made Tito look like a clown in those rounds. But scoring, as you say round-by-round, it's easy to see how Trinidad bagged the W.

Oscar De La Hoya got what he deserved. One doesn't get paid a king's ransom for millions worldwide to pay $40-$50-$60 for PPV to watch you run scared during the championship rounds. This is a big black mark on his storied career and deservedly so regardless of how well he performed during the first 8-9rounds.
what DLH did was no different than what Leonard did against Hagler. Leonard was praised to the hilt...why dog DLH and rob him when he executed the same game plan and upped it?

what DLH did was no different than what Leonard did against Hagler. Leonard was praised to the hilt...why dog DLH and rob him when he executed the same game plan and upped it?
I don't think he should have lost it, judges should look at the fight as a whole and not just who won the last rounds

i dont think was a close one. Oscar dominated the whole fight except the last three where he ran around, even then Tito didnt do anything to win those rounds.

Rd 1- Trinidad
Rd 2- Trinidad
Rd 3- Oscar
Rd 4- Trinidad
Rd 5- Oscar
Rd 6- Oscar
Rd 7- Oscar
Rd 8- Oscar
Rd 9- Trinidad
Rd 10- Trinidad
Rd 11- Trinidad
Rd 12- Trinidad

HBO Lederman card had at 105 to 104, at start of Rd12, 6 rounds to 5.

Rd 1- Trinidad
Rd 2- Trinidad
Rd 3- Oscar
Rd 4- Trinidad
Rd 5- Oscar
Rd 6- Oscar
Rd 7- Oscar
Rd 8- Oscar
Rd 9- Trinidad
Rd 10- Trinidad
Rd 11- Trinidad
Rd 12- Trinidad

HBO Lederman card was 105 to 104, at start of Rd12, 6 rounds to 5.

haha your delusional. tell me how trinidad won the first 2 rds.. i just saw the fight 2 days ago and trinidad shots landed good in the 9th but oscar still outpointed him. he landed and threw more in that rd.

Lederman had the fight a draw, and Tito won those rounds, Oscars shots were floating, but not connecting, saw it right now.

floating..? ok so trinidad was stunned so many times from what then? i dont like oscar as much as trinidad but i mean.. maybe a draw but trinidad did not win.

Rd 1- Trinidad
Rd 2- Trinidad
Rd 3- Oscar
Rd 4- Trinidad
Rd 5- Oscar
Rd 6- Oscar
Rd 7- Oscar
Rd 8- Oscar
Rd 9- Trinidad
Rd 10- Trinidad
Rd 11- Trinidad
Rd 12- Trinidad

HBO Lederman card had at 105 to 104, at start of Rd12, 6 rounds to 5.

Dude, I thought you said you were off the pipe? Your not wearing womens clothes again are you?

Oscar fought a brilliant fight and dominated Trinidad. That may have been his finest hour and he should have won a unamious decision. No ifs, ands or butts.......

floating..? ok so trinidad was stunned so many times from what then? i dont like oscar as much as trinidad but i mean.. maybe a draw but trinidad did not win.Stunned of what? Trinidad blocked those shots, and making sure he didnt get hit.

With his face.

im not even gonna post. if u cant admit that he got stunned then its obvious u were just lookin to give him the fight. peace.

With his face.You wish, even the Mexicans in the arena were cheering Tito.

You wish, even the Mexicans in the arena were cheering Tito.

so.. whats your point? a lot of mexicans dont like oscar. is that supposed to prove that he didnt get hit? people were chanting tito during the hopkins fight where he got destroyed so whats your point?

looks like they combined
my thread with Iwatchboxing.
I dont mind you shouldnt have
tried to copy my thread anyway.
im trying to be nice now because
I dont wanna get in trouble no more.
Felix Tito Trinidad 41-2-35

so.. whats your point? a lot of mexicans dont like oscar. is that supposed to prove that he didnt get hit? people were chanting tito during the hopkins fight where he got destroyed so whats your point?My point is, Oscar lost. Of course Tito got hit, it wasnt close to a draw, for nothing.

My point is, Oscar lost. Of course Tito got hit, it wasnt close to a draw, for nothing.




41-2-35 titos real record

My point is, Oscar lost. Of course Tito got hit, it wasnt close to a draw, for nothing.

i dont understand why chanting your name means u won the fight but whatever. if that makes u feel better so be it. oscar won the fight. face reality.

Mexicans dont like Oscar because he doenst block punches with his face like Chavez and Morales.

Tito & Oscar got KO'd by Bernard. They should fight each other again. But if Oscar is moving down to 147, the fight won't happen.

Tito did not lose rd 1,2 both those could have went either way. so 4 9 10 11 12. were also all titos to there goes your 7-5. he was the aggressor and thats how he won

hell no. what the hell those 1st 3 rounds where the most lopsided rouds of the whole fight, did u watch the fight?

rd 1 was completely even
rd 2 oscar did somin last 10 secs to try and steal the rd.

o ok, i guess ur blind

nah if they were blind they cant see the fight. i'd say delusional and biased.

I didn't read al the posts but i had the fight 7-5 for ODLH. i could see a draw, but certainly not a victory for tito.

oscar probably should have been given the decision, but the way he ran in those last three rounds makes me glad that Trinidad won. A true champion should fight in the championship rounds (why else are they called that)look at the way mosely came out in the last round in his first fight against Oscar, this is an example of a true champion putting himself through hell to get what he wants.

oscar probably should have been given the decision, but the way he ran in those last three rounds makes me glad that Trinidad won. A true champion should fight in the championship rounds (why else are they called that)look at the way mosely came out in the last round in his first fight against Oscar, this is an example of a true champion putting himself through hell to get what he wants.
That's true but that's not on how they judge boxing, boxing is juged by a point system, so if DLH wins the first 9 and loses the others without knockdowns means he wins the fight, that are the rules, i know a champions should do that but that aren't the rules, the rules are who wins the most rounds and i believe DLH did that and at worst it was a draw.

hehe just watched the fight again, very funny, did you heard foreman talking about DLH's shoulders :confused: he said that's why trinidad was very passive, carefull at the beginning. very funny

Damn....

Still combing over one of the most damaging nights in boxing history, huh ?

This fight is a black mark against boxing.
Nothing worse than drawing an overwhelming amount of folks to an event, only to stick a steaming turd right onto their upper lips.

That's what this fight did....& millions of people came away thinking.."I shoulda known better than to buy that fight. BOXING STINKS !"

Alot of people had it a draw. Fight was close and no one deserved to win so live with it. Oscar ran when he sensed danger, and thats all you need to know. Oscar didn't finish the fight because he didn't want to fight anymore and he deserves to win? Yeah sure maybe to a Mexican-american. I feel sorry for the people who actually paid alot of money to see this live in person and the million + people who baught this PPV. Oscar should of finished the fight like a man. I guess after all the money he got it finally went to his head.

Oscar was afraid of Tito, DLH nutt-huggers always bring up this its funny "Oscar made tito look foolish...*cough* *pause* for 9 rounds" Lol. Come on don't be shy Dela-hermys lets talk about the running for once since its something you always avoid. :D And I had it a draw, and felt no-one should of won however I'm not losing any sleep over what happened because DLH got what he deserved.
Couldn't have said it better myself! I have seen the fight several times...it was a DRAW!!! But the fact is you cannot run from a championship fight PERIOD!!!

Originally Posted by Cow head
Alot of people had it a draw. Fight was close and no one deserved to win so live with it. Oscar ran when he sensed danger, and thats all you need to know. Oscar didn't finish the fight because he didn't want to fight anymore and he deserves to win? Yeah sure maybe to a Mexican-american. I feel sorry for the people who actually paid alot of money to see this live in person and the million + people who baught this PPV. Oscar should of finished the fight like a man. I guess after all the money he got it finally went to his head.

Oscar was afraid of Tito, DLH nutt-huggers always bring up this its funny "Oscar made tito look foolish...*cough* *pause* for 9 rounds" Lol. Come on don't be shy Dela-hermys lets talk about the running for once since its something you always avoid. :D And I had it a draw, and felt no-one should of won however I'm not losing any sleep over what happened because DLH got what he deserved.

Cow Head fits you well

So you say that for those who thought Delayoha made Tito look foolish the first 9 rds are "DLH nutt-huggers" . Let me ask you, who besides B Hopkins has made Tito look like an "average fighter"? Delahoya had Tito's nose bleeding and was out boxing him through out the fight. He clearly out boxed Tito the majority of the fight. It's haters like you that cant appreciate what he's done for the sport. I bet you don't think much of him as a promoter either. You my friend should be classified as a " DLH nutt-hater" What happen Cow head? Did a a girlfriend show interest in him one day? Don't be a hater! Delahoya has fought the best in his era. Acccept it. How did you score it a draw? What rounds besides the last 3 did you give to Tito?
I had Delahoya winning 8 rounds to 4.
And in regards, to your reference "and he deserves to win? Yeah sure maybe to a Mexican-american" What that crap about? He won the Gold for the USA. Don't think that because he's of Mexican heritage that his following are only Mexican American. Wow! Like I said, Cow Head fits you well

I uploaded the fight this morning in the full fights section, go watch it again, and after you watch it all just post your scorecards, that would be interesting.

Originally Posted by Cow head
Alot of people had it a draw. Fight was close and no one deserved to win so live with it. Oscar ran when he sensed danger, and thats all you need to know. Oscar didn't finish the fight because he didn't want to fight anymore and he deserves to win? Yeah sure maybe to a Mexican-american. I feel sorry for the people who actually paid alot of money to see this live in person and the million + people who baught this PPV. Oscar should of finished the fight like a man. I guess after all the money he got it finally went to his head.

Oscar was afraid of Tito, DLH nutt-huggers always bring up this its funny "Oscar made tito look foolish...*cough* *pause* for 9 rounds" Lol. Come on don't be shy Dela-hermys lets talk about the running for once since its something you always avoid. :D And I had it a draw, and felt no-one should of won however I'm not losing any sleep over what happened because DLH got what he deserved.

Cow Head fits you well

So you say that for those who thought Delayoha made Tito look foolish the first 9 rds are "DLH nutt-huggers" . Let me ask you, who besides B Hopkins has made Tito look like an "average fighter"? Delahoya had Tito's nose bleeding and was out boxing him through out the fight. He clearly out boxed Tito the majority of the fight. It's haters like you that cant appreciate what he's done for the sport. I bet you don't think much of him as a promoter either. You my friend should be classified as a " DLH nutt-hater" What happen Cow head? Did a a girlfriend show interest in him one day? Don't be a hater! Delahoya has fought the best in his era. Acccept it. How did you score it a draw? What rounds besides the last 3 did you give to Tito?
I had Delahoya winning 8 rounds to 4.
And in regards, to your reference "and he deserves to win? Yeah sure maybe to a Mexican-american" What that crap about? He won the Gold for the USA. Don't think that because he's of Mexican heritage that his following are only Mexican American. Wow! Like I said, Cow Head fits you well


Marcos, if you watch the fight really closely you'll see that DLH wasn't landing as clearly as it seemed. Tito absorbed most of the shots. I also thought it was blow out till I watched it agains and again and again. I would have given the decision to DLH by a round or 2 but a draw is more than possible.

well i had the match a draw de la hoya should never of givin up those rounds but even so tito still should not of won that fight and by the way things look we will never see a rematch

isnt it funny how dlh people think he won tito and sturm fights ha ha ha

Oscar won by at least 5 rounds that descion was terrible.

isnt it funny how dlh people think he won tito and sturm fights ha ha ha

anyone who says DLH won the Sturm bout wasn't watching the same fight, or have it confused.

I thought DLH definetly won in his fight againts Tito if it were just based on points. He pussed out and ran and it sucked but he still won that fight based on points. DLH DEFINITELY lost againts Sturm. He was getting jabbed all night. I knew DLH was going to get the decision. Don't tell me yall thought Sturm was gonna get it. After all it is Boxing.

Originally Posted by Cow head
Alot of people had it a draw. Fight was close and no one deserved to win so live with it. Oscar ran when he sensed danger, and thats all you need to know. Oscar didn't finish the fight because he didn't want to fight anymore and he deserves to win? Yeah sure maybe to a Mexican-american. I feel sorry for the people who actually paid alot of money to see this live in person and the million + people who baught this PPV. Oscar should of finished the fight like a man. I guess after all the money he got it finally went to his head.

Oscar was afraid of Tito, DLH nutt-huggers always bring up this its funny "Oscar made tito look foolish...*cough* *pause* for 9 rounds" Lol. Come on don't be shy Dela-hermys lets talk about the running for once since its something you always avoid. :D And I had it a draw, and felt no-one should of won however I'm not losing any sleep over what happened because DLH got what he deserved.

Cow Head fits you well

So you say that for those who thought Delayoha made Tito look foolish the first 9 rds are "DLH nutt-huggers" . Let me ask you, who besides B Hopkins has made Tito look like an "average fighter"? Delahoya had Tito's nose bleeding and was out boxing him through out the fight. He clearly out boxed Tito the majority of the fight. It's haters like you that cant appreciate what he's done for the sport. I bet you don't think much of him as a promoter either. You my friend should be classified as a " DLH nutt-hater" What happen Cow head? Did a a girlfriend show interest in him one day? Don't be a hater! Delahoya has fought the best in his era. Acccept it. How did you score it a draw? What rounds besides the last 3 did you give to Tito?
I had Delahoya winning 8 rounds to 4.
And in regards, to your reference "and he deserves to win? Yeah sure maybe to a Mexican-american" What that crap about? He won the Gold for the USA. Don't think that because he's of Mexican heritage that his following are only Mexican American. Wow! Like I said, Cow Head fits you well


Your Mexican aren't you? I'm sorry i hurt your feelings that you would type up a 6 page life story of ODLH. Its ok little DLH fan. You will be alright. Just accept the fact that DLH lost. And incase you didn't notice, most DLH fans are Mexican-American. Are you actually going to argue that? Or have you forgot how many Mexicans cross the border in order to get into the USA you ever so gracefully discussed? Know what? I restate that - DLH fans are either Mexican American or 10 year old girls. And just because you had it 8 - 4 doesn't mean everyone did. I actually had it 6 - 5 for DLH, BUT that does not mean i think he deserved to win. HE RAN, You stupid ****ing idiot. Are you suprised? How do you feel about that? Does it make you mad? Last 3? Try last 4 blind little fellow. Watch the fight on MUTE and don't listen to the HBO cheerleaders.

PS. Why did you repeat "I am a cowhead" twice? Or refer to the whole DLH girlfriend stuff? Are you trying to hurt my feelings? *Laughs* Its not going to make you mad like my comment did to you.

COW HEAD *****.

I had the fight a draw people need to learn how to score fights and not depend on inaccurate playstation gamepad using compubox.
judge each round as a 3 minute fight. and dont fall for the 10 second warning and DLH throwing flurries that dont land as winning the rounds.

I had the fight a draw people need to learn how to score fights and not depend on inaccurate playstation gamepad using compubox.
judge each round as a 3 minute fight. and dont fall for the 10 second warning and DLH throwing flurries that dont land as winning the rounds.

You're just saying that, because you're a fan of Tito Trinidad..

Please. Score the rounds with the volume low on the replay.Ignore Compubox and the biased HBO announcers. And show me how DLH won when he ran the last 3.5 rounds?
Tito didnt win that fight. DLH lost it.

I'm not a fan of either fighter, and IMO Tito definitely didn't win that fight. But it was a bad fight and a disappointing show from both fighters.

Hi, I'm an American. Tito won the fight

oscar, even though he ran last 3rds, deserved that decision. he put a clinic on tito. i think tito must've known that as well. why else did he look like a little kid on christmas morning when the decision was announced? sugar shane had that same look in his 2nd fight w/dlh when the decision was announced. merry christmas.

Oscar threw girl punches all night, he hit air more, than he did Tito, while trying to keep away from him.

hell no. what the hell those 1st 3 rounds where the most lopsided rouds of the whole fight, did u watch the fight?
As lopsided as the last three rounds? I don't think so. What fight did you watch?


That's true but that's not on how they judge boxing, boxing is juged by a point system, so if DLH wins the first 9 and loses the others without knockdowns means he wins the fight, that are the rules, i know a champions should do that but that aren't the rules, the rules are who wins the most rounds and i believe DLH did that and at worst it was a draw.
The 10 point must system only requires you to give 10 points to the winner (minus any point deductions by the ref) but doesn't require a 9 to the loser nor one point deducted from that for each KD. You are allowed to give a fighter a 10-5 round, even with no KDs, if that is how you see the fight. People don't do it, but it's not against the rules to do so. So, if a judge gave Oscar the first 9 rounds by a score of 10-9 and then gave Tito rounds 10-12 by a score of 10-7 (not bad scoring if you look at how bad DLH ran) then the fight would be a draw. There would be no arguing the legality of that scorecard, either.

It just boggles my mind how people can give DLH the first 9 rounds but concede the last 3.
DLH did not sweep the first 9 rounds.

Officially its a loss on Oscar's record, but I dare you to find one non-puerto rican that thinks Tito really won the fight. Oscar made Tito look foolish for the first 9 rounds, easily.

dude, it was a draw. I was rooting for Tito Trinidad.

Alot of people had it a draw. Fight was close and no one deserved to win so live with it. Oscar ran when he sensed danger, and thats all you need to know. Oscar didn't finish the fight because he didn't want to fight anymore and he deserves to win? Yeah sure maybe to a Mexican-american. I feel sorry for the people who actually paid alot of money to see this live in person and the million + people who baught this PPV. Oscar should of finished the fight like a man. I guess after all the money he got it finally went to his head.

Oscar was afraid of Tito, DLH nutt-huggers always bring up this its funny "Oscar made tito look foolish...*cough* *pause* for 9 rounds" Lol. Come on don't be shy Dela-hermys lets talk about the running for once since its something you always avoid. :D And I had it a draw, and felt no-one should of won however I'm not losing any sleep over what happened because DLH got what he deserved.

Who cares who won that fight between those two puerto ricans....they both ended back in puerto rico

Oscar deserved to lose even though I thought he clearly won more rounds. Anyone who *****edly flees the field of battle deserves to lose IMO.

Oscar deserved to lose even though I thought he clearly won more rounds. Anyone who *****edly flees the field of battle deserves to lose IMO.
not his fault... he was simply following his corner... he won that fight regardless if he ran the last rounds... he was playing it safe... and it bit him in the ass...

i saw this fight last week on tape. tito
really loss this fight and i hate oscar
delahoya. how can you lose to a pretty boy
like oscar delahoya? i thought tito was good
but after this i dont know. I can't stand that
oscar delahoya but the judges ripped him off.

I dont think so!!! he slacked off at the tail end of the fight and he knows it himself!!!

not his fault... he was simply following his corner... he won that fight regardless if he ran the last rounds... he was playing it safe... and it bit him in the ass...

That's a misconception.

Watch the fight and you clearly hear his corner tell him to "box, box, box" and told him "no more rounds like that" after round 10 when he ran, but he ran more anyway in rounds 11 and 12. Unless when the cameras were off they told him "box, and run, run".

But Oscar was tired, so maybe he had to run.

Still, I had Oscar slightly ahead after 12.

]i saw this fight last week on tape[/B]. tito
really loss this fight and i hate oscar
delahoya. how can you lose to a pretty boy
like oscar delahoya? i thought tito was good
but after this i dont know. I can't stand that
oscar delahoya but the judges ripped him off.

What rock have you been under?

Mexicans dont like Oscar because he doenst block punches with his face like Chavez and Morales.

Chavez had good subtle head movement, he slipped and rolled with more shots than it may have seemed.

De La Hoya won easy

I had it a draw after 15 times that I saw the fight.

I hear you brother! an honest man. De la Hoya 'WAS" (key word) winning on points. But only by 1 after the 7th round. The September 1999 SUPER FIGHT between Tito and OScar was dubbed [B]THE FIGHT of THE MILLENIUM. in which Tito came to fight and De la Hoya was content with winning on point like a whimp. It was a Draw. And for the record....I was rooting for Tito!

Oscar deserved to lose even though I thought he clearly won more rounds. Anyone who *****edly flees the field of battle deserves to lose IMO.

my man! that's telling 'em. I hear you bro, same here. It was called "The Super [B]FIGHT[B] of the Millinium. Tito came to fight, Oscar got a taste of that lethal left hook and booked!

I also believed it was a draw.

I'm with you brother! You said everything there is to say. A toast to you!

ps: and if you don't drink... I'll raise a cup of cool-aid!