View Full Version : If Oscar beats Floyd???


ottoevans
02-05-2006, 11:31 PM
ok fantasy time. Lets say Oscar beats Mayorga by TKO or UD and Floyd does the SAME against Zab

Then they both square off in Sept. at 147 and Oscar wins by KO or UD, how would you view Oscar then??


and remember these points...

Floyd is P4p the best right now, and if hes not he should be after a victory against Zab.

Oscar has been written off as washed up or that he just doesnt have the juice left in him since hes old.

How big would it be if Oscar defeated the p4p king and one of the most gifted fighters of all time (many beleive hes undistructble)?

Scottie2Hottie
02-05-2006, 11:35 PM
i guarantee if oscar wins the fight will be marred with some bull**** controversy and it will be too disputed for anyone to care.

that being said, id love for dlh to take the W and come back.

RAESAAD
02-05-2006, 11:38 PM
I think Oscar will beat Mayorga but I doubt PBF/DLH will ever happen unless DLH is very impressive in beating mayorga which I doubt it, It will probably be a close fight with mayorga throwing bombs and DLH being just too crafty and winning rounds technically hence I see a Winky/DLH fight on the horizon simply for money purposes if they both win in May/June respectively. :)

AintGottaClue
02-05-2006, 11:38 PM
people whould still hate DLH and call mayweather to green of a fighter to mean anything

ottoevans
02-05-2006, 11:45 PM
people whould still hate DLH and call mayweather to green of a fighter to mean anything

damn if that happened i really do feel those people should really kill themselves. Which sadly a lot of people would give an excuse like that

THE REAL NINJA
02-06-2006, 12:06 AM
i'm betting on DLH 2 win this one ! i think he is 2 big and 2 strong 4 May at this time is all

Scottie2Hottie
02-06-2006, 12:07 AM
at 154 i could see floyd gettin beaten by oscar.

AintGottaClue
02-06-2006, 12:14 AM
dlh floyd wont happen if it isnt at 154, oscar would be a fool trying now to get to 147, dont think he can anyway but 154 or prime 147 oscar owns pretty boy

THE REAL NINJA
02-06-2006, 12:15 AM
at 154 i could see floyd gettin beaten by oscar.
it's going to be a good fight i see it a lot like DLH vs Mosley but can May trade with a bigger DLH May has never been hit with what DLH has to offer

crazyjames
02-06-2006, 12:52 AM
Oscar will beat Mayorga and floyd and dlh will happen. A few years back floyd was always talking about how he wants to fights dlh. Nows his chance to fight the 7 division world champion for millions of dollars, theres no way he will pass this up. I can't wait till see what all these people that have been saying how washed up and old dlh is say after he beats both of them!

Darkstar
02-06-2006, 01:15 AM
Im sure DLH takes out Mayorga... But the fight with Floyd is different.
At 154 and higher DLH has a big advantage is size over Floyd but Floyd is unlike any fighter DLH has fought. DLH couldnt out box Mayweather so i think Floyd takes him in UD

xzworks
02-06-2006, 01:17 AM
if dela hoya wins. i will never watch boxing again.

THE REAL NINJA
02-06-2006, 01:19 AM
you 2 guys wanna bet on it LOL :D

xzworks
02-06-2006, 01:23 AM
8 bil on PBF!!!!!!!!!!

THE REAL NINJA
02-06-2006, 01:25 AM
8 bil on PBF!!!!!!!!!!
i dont have that LOL... look in betting

MikeHunt
02-06-2006, 01:27 AM
ok fantasy time. Lets say Oscar beats Mayorga by TKO or UD and Floyd does the SAME against Zab

Then they both square off in Sept. at 147 and Oscar wins by KO or UD, how would you view Oscar then??


and remember these points...

Floyd is P4p the best right now, and if hes not he should be after a victory against Zab.

Oscar has been written off as washed up or that he just doesnt have the juice left in him since hes old.

How big would it be if Oscar defeated the p4p king and one of the most gifted fighters of all time (many beleive hes undistructble)?


This fight never happens!!

Zab Super Judah
02-06-2006, 02:21 AM
DLH wouuld definitely have the size advantage in this one

Mech.
02-06-2006, 04:12 AM
DLH wouuld definitely have the size advantage in this one

Itd be ****ing amazing if DLH won though.I seriously doubt it,Mayweather would bring his AAA+++ game,and oscar is def past his prime.If DLH did win though,****, it would be a great way to cap off an amazing career.

Even though Im sure oscar will lose,Id still love to see it.

GunStar
02-06-2006, 08:05 AM
if dela hoya wins. i will never watch boxing again.I agree with you, if he wins, I will also never watch another fight. I will put some real cash on this fight, if it does happen.

bigdlb12
02-06-2006, 09:45 AM
I think if DLH wins or doesnt he should retire after these two fights, or maybe go out with a Wright vs DLH

ottoevans
02-06-2006, 09:05 PM
wait why wouldnt u watch another fight??

Derranged
02-06-2006, 09:35 PM
dlh floyd wont happen if it isnt at 154, oscar would be a fool trying now to get to 147, dont think he can anyway but 154 or prime 147 oscar owns pretty boy

And PBF would be a fool going up to 154

Undefeated
02-06-2006, 09:41 PM
oscar wont beat floyd

Super_Lightweight
02-07-2006, 03:56 PM
People seem to have images of Oscar going down vs Bernard stuck in their heads. Fact is, that fight was at middleweight and Oscar is no middleweight. Additionally, Bernard's game at that time is different than Floyd's is now. Floyd has NO power at all when it comes to his ability to hurt Oscar. Floyd does have good speed and defense...but Oscar will be able to compete with his speed as well. Oscar has a huge size advantage.

Unless Oscar is over the hill and shows it vs Mayorga, this fight is not a case of "great little man vs average big man". It's a case of great little man vs great big man.

History is on Oscar's side, and Floyd holds NO wins over ANYONE that would even begin to tell us how well he can do vs a revamped Oscar De La Hoya.

Manny_P
02-07-2006, 04:00 PM
Floyd is THE BEST FIGHTER!!!! This guy is invincible. LOL! Seriously, I see no one beating this guy. Floyd is from a different planet. Just amazing.

Super_Lightweight
02-07-2006, 04:02 PM
Floyd is far from invincible. No one is invincible. History has taught us that over and over.

Roy Jones...KO'd (for whatever reason, he still got KO'd)
Manny Pac...KO'd twice and was beaten by Morales when every1 thought otherwise
Forrest....easily stopped by Mayorga
Floyd HIMSELF was beaten clearly by Jose Luis Castillo. Even if you're on the fringe and believe he won that fight, then you still have to admit based on that fight alone that Floyd is not "invincible".

Manny_P
02-07-2006, 04:04 PM
Floyd is far from invincible. No one is invincible. History has taught us that over and over.

Roy Jones...KO'd (for whatever reason, he still got KO'd)
Manny Pac...KO'd twice and was beaten by Morales when every1 thought otherwise
Forrest....easily stopped by Mayorga
Floyd HIMSELF was beaten clearly by Jose Luis Castillo. Even if you're on the fringe and believe he won that fight, then you still have to admit based on that fight alone that Floyd is not "invincible".

Floyd is betta than all those fightas you listed. Floyd is just INCREDIBLE.

Super_Lightweight
02-07-2006, 04:20 PM
Floyd is not better than all of those fighters. Certainly, many people would rank him p4p behind Roy all-time. Pac also has a chance to be better ranked all-time. It's all a matter of opinion, but one thing is for sure:

Floyd is not invincible.

Even if Floyd is better than Roy and Forrest and Pac...that doesn't save him from getting beaten by De La Hoya. MUCH MUCH MUCH crazier things have happened.

Manny_P
02-07-2006, 04:23 PM
Floyd is not better than all of those fighters. Certainly, many people would rank him p4p behind Roy all-time. Pac also has a chance to be better ranked all-time. It's all a matter of opinion, but one thing is for sure:

Floyd is not invincible.

Even if Floyd is better than Roy and Forrest and Pac...that doesn't save him from getting beaten by De La Hoya. MUCH MUCH MUCH crazier things have happened.

I don't mean it literrally man. That's just the word I use in sayin how good Pretty Boy is.

IMO, Floyd is the greatest fighter alive right now. Floyd has practically no flaw in his game!!!!!!

AintGottaClue
02-07-2006, 04:37 PM
I don't mean it literrally man. That's just the word I use in sayin how good Pretty Boy is.

IMO, Floyd is the greatest fighter alive right now. Floyd has practically no flaw in his game!!!!!!


who woudl win at super feather floyd or pac?

Manny_P
02-07-2006, 04:38 PM
who woudl win at super feather floyd or pac?

:****you: LOZR!!!

Mayweather would win by stoppage.

moy22487
02-07-2006, 04:43 PM
Floyd is not better than all of those fighters. Certainly, many people would rank him p4p behind Roy all-time. Pac also has a chance to be better ranked all-time. It's all a matter of opinion, but one thing is for sure:

Floyd is not invincible.

Even if Floyd is better than Roy and Forrest and Pac...that doesn't save him from getting beaten by De La Hoya. MUCH MUCH MUCH crazier things have happened.
holy **** i agree with ya. lots of people count de la hoya out but in his last fight he came in in good shape was doing fine untill the ko. b-hop was use to fealing peoples power at 160 so he delt with de la hoyas punch no problem. de la hoyas punch beats any body that mayweather has faceds well at least his left hook

Manny_P
02-07-2006, 04:45 PM
holy **** i agree with ya. lots of people count de la hoya out but in his last fight he came in in good shape was doing fine untill the ko. b-hop was use to fealing peoples power at 160 so he delt with de la hoyas punch no problem. de la hoyas punch beats any body that mayweather has faceds well at least his left hook

de la hoya WASNT doing anything against Hop. He was running around, dancing wit Hopkins. That was a pathetic performance and I regret buyin that PPV.

moy22487
02-07-2006, 04:47 PM
de la hoya WASNT doing anything against Hop. He was running around, dancing wit Hopkins. That was a pathetic performance and I regret buyin that PPV.
he was in there preassuring him when every body thaught he was going to run. since he didnt carry the power he does at 154 or lower b-hp was not hurt. even hopkins was surprised that he pressured him

Manny_P
02-07-2006, 04:48 PM
he was in there preassuring him when every body thaught he was going to run. since he didnt carry the power he does at 154 or lower b-hp was not hurt. even hopkins was surprised that he pressured him

you can't be serious. THAT WAS PATHETIC.

moy22487
02-07-2006, 04:51 PM
you can't be serious. THAT WAS PATHETIC.
i know it was pathetic he had no chance but he went in there. b-hop was just that better i wont make an excuse my boy lost but he didnt run, only fight he ran was 2 rounds of last fight againts tito

GunStar
02-07-2006, 04:56 PM
i know it was pathetic he had no chance but he went in there. b-hop was just that better i wont make an excuse my boy lost but he didnt run, only fight he ran was 2 rounds of last fight againts titoI think he quit, because he knew Hopkins was ready to beat him up badly in the later rounds. That was a great acting job by Oscar. That was a soft body punch by Hop. Also what's more strange, is both guys became partners after the fight.

Scottie2Hottie
02-07-2006, 04:58 PM
I think he quit, because he knew Hopkins was ready to beat him up badly in the later rounds. That was a great acting job by Oscar. That was a soft body punch by Hop. Also what's more strange, is both guys became partners after the fight.

eh, i think it would be hard to say that it WASNT a sketchy KO. from what ive heard, that is...ive yet to see the fight myself. but oscar falling from a body shot for the 10 count? i dunno.

Manny_P
02-07-2006, 04:59 PM
I think he quit, because he knew Hopkins was ready to beat him up badly in the later rounds. That was a great acting job by Oscar. That was a soft body punch by Hop. Also what's more strange, is both guys became partners after the fight.

yup. Oscar neva had a chance.

moy22487
02-07-2006, 04:59 PM
I think he quit, because he knew Hopkins was ready to beat him up badly in the later rounds. That was a great acting job by Oscar. That was a soft body punch by Hop. Also what's more strange, is both guys became partners after the fight.
if he did trow it that was smart he signed a champ and made big bucks losses respect as a fighter tho. but we need to get this back on the subject of de la hoya floyd. floyd has better D than hopkins did but i dont think he carry the power of a 160 pounder, strum couldnt ko him and he caught him good.

GunStar
02-07-2006, 05:03 PM
eh, i think it would be hard to say that it WASNT a sketchy KO. from what ive heard, that is...ive yet to see the fight myself. but oscar falling from a body shot for the 10 count? i dunno.Yea, if you see the body punch, you will see what I'm saying. That was a weak body punch. Come on after a guy knocks you out, then you go became partners a week after the fight.

GunStar
02-07-2006, 05:06 PM
if he did trow it that was smart he signed a champ and made big bucks losses respect as a fighter tho. but we need to get this back on the subject of de la hoya floyd. floyd has better D than hopkins did but i dont think he carry the power of a 160 pounder, strum couldnt ko him and he caught him good.PBF doesn't need to bring any power, he will just outbox Oscar. This will be an easy fight for PBF, I really hope he doesn't take this fight, I rather see him fighting Hatton or Cotto, then seeing him against Oscar.

Manny_P
02-07-2006, 05:08 PM
PBF doesn't need to bring any power, he will just outbox Oscar. This will be an easy fight for PBF, I really hope he doesn't take this fight, I rather see him fighting Hatton or Cotto, then seeing him against Oscar.

I agree on everything!

moy22487
02-07-2006, 05:51 PM
PBF doesn't need to bring any power, he will just outbox Oscar. This will be an easy fight for PBF, I really hope he doesn't take this fight, I rather see him fighting Hatton or Cotto, then seeing him against Oscar.
you cant outbox oscar that easy. sweet pea tryed and de la hoya hung in there with him. oscar is also a good boxer, if he tryes to ko him he might be able to pull it off.pbf is in my top 3 fav fighters if he can fight oscar it will get him a payday and it will be the biggest victory under his name. i see it more of a challenge for him than hatton or cotto. hatton is just like castillo except he cuts easier. cotto has a so so chin mayweather would outbox him and go in for a kill 7th round

ottoevans
02-07-2006, 08:56 PM
i dont think Oscar would win, but thats not the question.

the question is how big would that be?? If oscar beats the best out there at his age in sept.?

Alibata
02-07-2006, 09:39 PM
Floyd is to small for DLH. Floyd wont even fight anybody legit at 140, 147lbs except maybe Gatti who is not an A level opponent. To move up catchweight againts DLH he has a good chance of getting KOed. At least Mayweather is fighting somebody. This is a fight I would LOVE to see. Hope it really, really happens. Though I think he may loose, Im for Floyd on this one.

-GBGQ-
02-07-2006, 09:46 PM
No if's only when....

Oscar De La Hoya will defeat Floyd Mayweather Jr.

psychopath
02-07-2006, 09:47 PM
ok fantasy time. Lets say Oscar beats Mayorga by TKO or UD and Floyd does the SAME against Zab

Then they both square off in Sept. at 147 and Oscar wins by KO or UD, how would you view Oscar then??


and remember these points...

Floyd is P4p the best right now, and if hes not he should be after a victory against Zab.

Oscar has been written off as washed up or that he just doesnt have the juice left in him since hes old.

How big would it be if Oscar defeated the p4p king and one of the most gifted fighters of all time (many beleive hes undistructble)?

That's really a fantasy. :D

If that happens De La Hoya should retire immediately avoiding a rematch. :)