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02-03-2006, 12:42 PM
What do you guys think? Is that thought overhype because he's a white hope candidate or could this guy have really been something special had he been focused and disciplined? I think so
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View Full Version : Could Corrie Sanders have been a reigning HW Champ! aps214 02-03-2006, 12:42 PM What do you guys think? Is that thought overhype because he's a white hope candidate or could this guy have really been something special had he been focused and disciplined? I think so DiegoFuego 02-03-2006, 12:50 PM no way in hell SnoopySmurf 02-03-2006, 01:47 PM He could have put Lennox Lewis on his ass. And you all know he's got no chin. But...he has no focus. So, I don't think he would have been champ. even if he had a chance to fight Lennox, he would have spent 70% of his time golfing and 20% eating and 10% training. Double 02-03-2006, 01:53 PM If he would have trained properly for Vitali I think he could have. hotbox23 02-03-2006, 02:02 PM corries defense is horrible if any time he woulda been in with a big puncher they woulda knocked his ass out ChrististheAnswer2 02-03-2006, 03:03 PM He was a champ, he held the WBO belt, its considered a world title, but he couldn't have been the true champ becasue he didn't have the disiplcine. SacTown1 02-03-2006, 03:07 PM If Softy Shannon Briggs can become linear champion, and Bong-rip Bruce Seldon can win a title belt, ANYBODY can become champ Manny_P 02-03-2006, 03:08 PM he exxxposed Wlad like mad though. That was a pure beatdown!!!!! ChrististheAnswer2 02-03-2006, 03:45 PM he exxxposed Wlad like mad though. That was a pure beatdown!!!!! He beat Wlad like he stole something from him. Kid Achilles 02-03-2006, 03:49 PM Sanders was one of the most talented heavyweight sluggers in recent history. If he had the work ethic of a Rocky Marciano or Marvin Hagler of course he would have been heavyweight champion. Look at how competitive he was with top guys despite being an unmotivated fatass. Ridiculous handspeed and punching power. .::EnRiQuE::. 02-03-2006, 03:51 PM he exxxposed Wlad like mad though. That was a pure beatdown!!!!! i heard about that video :D Derranged 02-03-2006, 04:16 PM As I posted before, yes. He had the hand speed and the power but was always inactive. He had the power to knock out any of the elite in the 90s but the biggest name he fought before Rahman was Bert Cooper. realheavyhands 02-03-2006, 07:16 PM hes so damn fat hes probably a cruiserweight in shape , he could of been the best cruiser ever , he would of been sick at cruiser, champ til hes was 45 with that left ,**** he was 30 lbs overweight at 38 years old and looked good against vitali Kid Achilles 02-03-2006, 07:41 PM Realheavyhands brings up a good point. Sanders is really only a 200 lber in shape, which makes his power all the more impressive. Bozo_no no 02-03-2006, 07:45 PM Sanders is 6'4, no way he weighs in Healthy at 200lbs. Kid Achilles 02-03-2006, 08:32 PM He was overall soft and had a noticeable gut at 230 so I don't know how you can say that. He would be lean at about 200-210. GasPed 02-03-2006, 09:11 PM Lennox Lewis himself recently admitted to Sanders that Corrie was not a fight his people were interested in taking - way too much risk for the reward. I don't know if Sanders could've taken LL, but an in-shape, focused Corrie Sanders would surely be way too much risk for the reward. I don't think I've ever seen a heavyweight with that combination of handspeed and power. TheEvilSaint 02-03-2006, 09:13 PM could he? no, period. TheEvilSaint 02-03-2006, 09:18 PM Lennox Lewis himself recently admitted to Sanders that Corrie was not a fight his people were interested in taking - way too much risk for the reward. I don't know if Sanders could've taken LL, but an in-shape, focused Corrie Sanders would surely be way too much risk for the reward. I don't think I've ever seen a heavyweight with that combination of handspeed and power. i guess you have never seen mike tyson or joe louis. PBDS 02-03-2006, 10:00 PM He was a champ, he held the WBO belt, its considered a world title, but he couldn't have been the true champ becasue he didn't have the disiplcine. ...Sanders was a god given talent with lightening fast hands that were naturaly heavy as ****. He was also a track star in addition to his golf skills in case anyone didn't know that. If he had just concentrated on boxing he would have been the man. Hell, Lennox was technicaly his stable mate for some time and Lennox would never even entertain the idea of getting in the ring with him. Read some of Sanders bio work and you will see that he and Lennox had kind of a running joke about it. LL wanted no part of a fast lefty with power who could drop a guy with a shaky chin. Derranged 02-04-2006, 10:19 AM ...Sanders was a god given talent with lightening fast hands that were naturaly heavy as ****. He was also a track star in addition to his golf skills in case anyone didn't know that. If he had just concentrated on boxing he would have been the man. Hell, Lennox was technicaly his stable mate for some time and Lennox would never even entertain the idea of getting in the ring with him. Read some of Sanders bio work and you will see that he and Lennox had kind of a running joke about it. LL wanted no part of a fast lefty with power who could drop a guy with a shaky chin. Good post, Lennox put Corrie on his promotional team. By the way, I know he's South African bc he was born there, but does anyone know what his background is? Dutch, British or something? mECHsLAVE 02-04-2006, 11:41 AM Yes, he could have been *a* reigning HW champ (Byrd is *a* reigning HW champ, for God's sake), but he could not have been THE reigning HW champ. Some of you are saying Sanders couldn't have defended his belt against the leftovers that Byrd is fighting? I disagree wholeheartedly. A prime 30 year old Sanders would be favored against many if not most of today's top HW's. He went from Wlad to Vitali, though. And had a decent showing in both, and even put Vitali down (should have been ruled a KD, because Vitali going down was a result of that one left that rocked him). But then he just ran out of gas and took too much punishment. Sanders relied on his power too much. I think he went in to his bouts thinking that if he lands his left, then it's over. Which is fine for the lower ranks, but he never altered his game for the top. I understand that he injured his knee in training for the Rahman fight, and couldn't run or train for extended periods because of it, which might explain why he ran out of gas in the 5th-6th. But regardless, he was having a hard time hitting Rahman clean, and when he punched he left his head in the same spot before and after he punched, a very amateur habit. The only reason he made it as far as he did was because of that brilliant left hand. I don't believe he had the discipline or a trainer to develop in him skills that would have let him reign as the champ, but he always had a puncher's chance, and if you went in with him unprepared or taking him lightly, then you were IN TROUBLE. ChrististheAnswer2 02-04-2006, 12:51 PM ...Sanders was a god given talent with lightening fast hands that were naturaly heavy as ****. He was also a track star in addition to his golf skills in case anyone didn't know that. If he had just concentrated on boxing he would have been the man. Hell, Lennox was technicaly his stable mate for some time and Lennox would never even entertain the idea of getting in the ring with him. Read some of Sanders bio work and you will see that he and Lennox had kind of a running joke about it. LL wanted no part of a fast lefty with power who could drop a guy with a shaky chin. He may have been a god given talent but he didn't take advantage of it. He was lazy and showed very little interst in the sport, and he destroyed the next heir apparent. Are you trying to justify Wlad's loss to him by propping him up bigger than he was? Rahman beat Sanders, for goodness sake! Bozo_no no 02-04-2006, 01:19 PM He was overall soft and had a noticeable gut at 230 so I don't know how you can say that. He would be lean at about 200-210. He was 6'4. Maybe in his mid 20's he would have been in good shape at 210, but he's a big guy. 210-220 would be a good weight. 200lbs for a guy his size would not. Bozo_no no 02-04-2006, 01:22 PM ...Sanders was a god given talent with lightening fast hands that were naturaly heavy as ****. He was also a track star in addition to his golf skills in case anyone didn't know that. If he had just concentrated on boxing he would have been the man. Hell, Lennox was technicaly his stable mate for some time and Lennox would never even entertain the idea of getting in the ring with him. Read some of Sanders bio work and you will see that he and Lennox had kind of a running joke about it. LL wanted no part of a fast lefty with power who could drop a guy with a shaky chin. Would you listen to this crap? Every time Corrie Sanders is mentioned, you have Klitschko nuth Huggers coming out of the woodwork making him out to be He-Man. Try watching some of his fights Peebdis. Pop in his figh with Rahman or Nate Tubbs. Kid Achilles 02-04-2006, 01:52 PM Poor stamina was his glaring weaknesses. That is something that can be improved. The subject of this post was did he have the potential to be a reigning HW champion and I think he did, in theory. Good size and reach, excellent power, and phenomenal handspeed, coupled with the fact that he was a southpaw. Next to Wladimir Klitschko, he was the most talented heavyweight I've seen in awhile that he had a better chin than Wlad. His problem was that he didn't train very hard (clearly evidenced by his physique). He had the right mindset inside the ring, and the physicality to go with it. His battles were lost in the gym. Still, one of the more exciting talents in the sport in the last ten years or so. ChrististheAnswer2 02-04-2006, 02:01 PM Poor stamina was his glaring weaknesses. That is something that can be improved. The subject of this post was did he have the potential to be a reigning HW champion and I think he did, in theory. Good size and reach, excellent power, and phenomenal handspeed, coupled with the fact that he was a southpaw. Next to Wladimir Klitschko, he was the most talented heavyweight I've seen in awhile that he had a better chin than Wlad. His problem was that he didn't train very hard (clearly evidenced by his physique). He had the right mindset inside the ring, and the physicality to go with it. His battles were lost in the gym. Still, one of the more exciting talents in the sport in the last ten years or so. The amount of talent that you say he had, does not match his resume. Kid Achilles 02-04-2006, 02:03 PM Because he did not train very hard, as I've said. PBDS 02-04-2006, 02:10 PM Poor stamina was his glaring weaknesses. That is something that can be improved. The subject of this post was did he have the potential to be a reigning HW champion and I think he did, in theory. Good size and reach, excellent power, and phenomenal handspeed, coupled with the fact that he was a southpaw. Next to Wladimir Klitschko, he was the most talented heavyweight I've seen in awhile that he had a better chin than Wlad. His problem was that he didn't train very hard (clearly evidenced by his physique). He had the right mindset inside the ring, and the physicality to go with it. His battles were lost in the gym. Still, one of the more exciting talents in the sport in the last ten years or so. ...Good post and pretty much right on with exactly what Sanders was. He was a dangerous fight for anyone who ventured into the ring with him. ChrististheAnswer2 02-04-2006, 03:16 PM Thats like saying Tyson was the best talent but because other things outside the ring he didn't fullfill his potential. You are judged by what you do in the ring. And it sounds like alot of Wlad fans prop up Sanders to somehting greater than what he was to justify Wlads loss. The bottomline is Wlad got caught by a Sanders punch and couldn't recover. Bozo_no no 02-04-2006, 03:26 PM ...Good post and pretty much right on with exactly what Sanders was. He was a dangerous fight for anyone who ventured into the ring with him. Answer this question truthfully: How many of his fights have you seen. Name them. Bozo_no no 02-04-2006, 03:40 PM A thread like this pops up every couple of months. Somone mentions Corrie Sanders, and a bunch of MIA Klitschko Nut Huggers show up and fall all over eachother circle jerking to thoughts of Corrie Sanders' potential. The guy was a waste. Having skill but not being able to focus or get in shape makes you a poor fighter. There's a long list of guys who have a lot of potential, but lacked in other elements. Put a killer instinct in Jameel McCline, and he's a monster. Give Michael Grant a chin, and he's a world beater. Corrie Sanders was an out of shape golfer who was nothing more than a "Might have been". His distruction at the hands of Nate Tubbs speaks for itself. ChrististheAnswer2 02-04-2006, 04:42 PM A thread like this pops up every couple of months. Somone mentions Corrie Sanders, and a bunch of MIA Klitschko Nut Huggers show up and fall all over eachother circle jerking to thoughts of Corrie Sanders' potential. The guy was a waste. Having skill but not being able to focus or get in shape makes you a poor fighter. There's a long list of guys who have a lot of potential, but lacked in other elements. Put a killer instinct in Jameel McCline, and he's a monster. Give Michael Grant a chin, and he's a world beater. Corrie Sanders was an out of shape golfer who was nothing more than a "Might have been". His distruction at the hands of Nate Tubbs speaks for itself. Fianlly a little dose of reality in this thread! |