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Dempsey 1919
02-02-2006, 04:18 PM
What if muhammad ali beat joe frazier in FOTC? How would the course of boxing history be changed? :boxing:

Southpaw Stinger
02-02-2006, 05:27 PM
Ali would probrably beat Foreman early and all other opposition and retire for good in the late 70's with a satisfied unbeaton record.

Heckler
02-02-2006, 05:33 PM
FOTC... Ali put up an incredible fight considering. He should of waited another 2 years, 1 at the very least before fighting someone like Frazier. Instead he fought frazier only months after inactivity and still put up an extremely good fight. This is why im convinced although Frazier would always trouble Ali, in his prime Ali would take him out.

LondonRingRules
02-02-2006, 05:45 PM
====What if muhammad ali ======

** What if you had been Neon Leon and retired after beating Ali. Wouldn't that make you the greatest?

RockyMarcianofan00
02-02-2006, 05:50 PM
if that happened i think Joe Frazier would make a rematch with Ali and Go into serious training and fight Ali, and that would be a fight to see
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Dempsey 1919
02-02-2006, 06:35 PM
What if muhammad ali beat joe frazier in FOTC? How would the course of boxing history be changed? :boxing:

if this happened then george foreman wouldn't have won the title, and ali would have retired after being champ for about ten years.

Heckler
02-02-2006, 06:51 PM
Probably, but it didn't happen... Ali achieved alot irrespective.

Frazier's 15th round
02-02-2006, 07:00 PM
Frazier would have won the Thrilla in Manila. Ali would still lead the series 2-1.

Dempsey 1919
02-02-2006, 07:01 PM
Frazier would have won the Thrilla in Manila. Ali would still lead the series 2-1.

if ali won the first two, then there wouldn't be a third match.

Easy-E
02-02-2006, 07:56 PM
Frazier would have won the Thrilla in Manila. Ali would still lead the series 2-1.

wtf??
how so?

Heckler
02-02-2006, 08:33 PM
Why would Frazier win Manilla? Id say it be exactly the same.

Yogi
02-02-2006, 09:24 PM
Jeezers men...Has this turned into the friggin Ali forum or what? :(

Brockton Lip
02-02-2006, 09:32 PM
Frazier would have won the Thrilla in Manila. Ali would still lead the series 2-1.

lol, how? If there was one, how would he win? His best chance would be the first fight not the third.

Dirt E Gomez
02-03-2006, 01:15 AM
If He had beaten Frazier, Foreman would've beaten Ali when they met. The fight wouldn't have been hyped the way it was and therefore the conditioning + heat wouldn't have effected George. Also, Ali would've underestimated Foreman when they met since when George dominated Frazier it proved to the world just how much of a force he was. Frazier was viewed as virtually invincible until George disposed of him. Without that fight, Foreman's first monster fight would've been against Ali. Ali might've been foolish enough to try to box too much instead of just hide on the since seeing Frazier's fight is what drove home to the public what a force Foreman was.

Dempsey 1919
02-03-2006, 01:30 AM
If He had beaten Frazier, Foreman would've beaten Ali when they met. The fight wouldn't have been hyped the way it was and therefore the conditioning + heat wouldn't have effected George. Also, Ali would've underestimated Foreman when they met since when George dominated Frazier it proved to the world just how much of a force he was. Frazier was viewed as virtually invincible until George disposed of him. Without that fight, Foreman's first monster fight would've been against Ali. Ali might've been foolish enough to try to box too much instead of just hide on the since seeing Frazier's fight is what drove home to the public what a force Foreman was.

actually, foreman probably would have fought frazier en route to a title shot against ali, and ali would have been well prepared.

Dirt E Gomez
02-03-2006, 02:08 AM
actually, foreman probably would have fought frazier en route to a title shot against ali, and ali would have been well prepared.

It's mere speculation on both of our parts but I'd be hard pressed to believe Foreman wouldn't have deserved a title shot ASAP. And in the same token, since ALI had the belts he wouldn't have really worked with King to make the no infamous Rumble in the Jungle and this would've only helped Big George.

jspivey
02-03-2006, 06:09 AM
I think if Ali beat Frazier the first time out, he would've wound up losing to a lesser fighter. And who knows how he would've took that. You know, at least he lost Frazier who was the best at the time. That gave him more of a hunger to compete.
Losing to a chump, we might not be calling him The Greatest right now.

Boxclever
02-03-2006, 07:20 AM
Maybe if this timeframe happened then George Foreman comes to fight ali as hungry challanger rather than satisfied champ, different venue it's possible then for George to win. Don't forget Ali did have off nights so you could even see George taking the title off Ali.

Ali wins the rematch though and then we could be back into a similar situation to what really happened. :cool:

Frazier's 15th round
02-03-2006, 09:41 AM
It's well known that Frazier would have won Manila if Ali won FOTC. He would have went to the body like nobody would believe, rather than gone headhunting like he did in the real Manila. This would have caused Ali to not be able to come out for Round 13. Frazier wins by TKO in 12.

Dempsey 1919
02-03-2006, 02:31 PM
It's well known that Frazier would have won Manila if Ali won FOTC. He would have went to the body like nobody would believe, rather than gone headhunting like he did in the real Manila. This would have caused Ali to not be able to come out for Round 13. Frazier wins by TKO in 12.

in your dreams, maybe.

Southpaw Stinger
02-03-2006, 04:10 PM
It's well known that Frazier would have won Manila if Ali won FOTC. He would have went to the body like nobody would believe, rather than gone headhunting like he did in the real Manila. This would have caused Ali to not be able to come out for Round 13. Frazier wins by TKO in 12.

I don't think the thrilla in Manila would have happend if Ali won FOTC. TIM was Ali's challenge to Frazier, they had fought each other 2 times before and had won 1 each, Thrilla was meant to be the decider. If Ali won the previous fights their would be no need for Manila.

Dempsey 1919
02-03-2006, 04:19 PM
I don't think the thrilla in Manila would have happend if Ali won FOTC. TIM was Ali's challenge to Frazier, they had fought each other 2 times before and had won 1 each, Thrilla was meant to be the decider. If Ali won the previous fights their would be no need for Manila.

yeah, that's true.

El Guapo
02-03-2006, 05:02 PM
====What if muhammad ali ======

** What if you had been Neon Leon and retired after beating Ali. Wouldn't that make you the greatest?

no because the some one else could beat all and take the crown, but even if no one else beat ali, ali would still be the greatest for living up to his own expectations which is an extremly hard thing to do!