View Full Version : Most "Unknockoutable" fighter Today?
Mr. Ryan 01-18-2005, 12:21 PM Which fighter is the most durable fighter in boxing today, so durable that it seems impossible that he would be ko'ed? How about elusiveness, can't get ko'ed without being hit. Who's KO loss would surprise you the most? Here are my picks:
Vitali Klitschko
James Toney
Bernard Hopkins
Antonio Margarito
Miguel Cotto
Jose Luis Castillo
I can't see any of these guys getting ko'ed.
jabsRstiff 01-18-2005, 12:24 PM Castillo may be the toughest of your list, Asian....& he'll be put to the supreme test when he faces the sport's biggest hitter in Corrales.
Hopkins.....not only does he have incredible toughness, but he seems too crafty to get KO'd.
Mr. Ryan 01-18-2005, 12:27 PM Castillo may be the toughest of your list, Asian....& he'll be put to the supreme test when he faces the sport's biggest hitter in Corrales.
Hopkins.....not only does he have incredible toughness, but he seems too crafty to get KO'd.
If Corrales doesn't KO Castillo, no one will. Hopkins is too crafty to get ko'ed, and it's very rare we see him take a hard, flush shot.
jabsRstiff 01-18-2005, 12:30 PM Cotto just looks like a guy who is getting hit by fighters who are 15-20 lbs lighter than he is...
Oh, ****....THAT IS THE CASE !
Kimmy 01-18-2005, 12:37 PM Wayne McCullough seems unstoppable in the chin department. As old as he is Oliver McCall can`t be floored. Of the champions i`d say that Hopkins probably is the least likelest to be stopped. Based on toughness, chin and savvy!
Chups 01-18-2005, 12:48 PM I can only think of B-HOP.
LittleBigMan 01-18-2005, 01:11 PM James Toney by a mile
Toller 01-18-2005, 01:34 PM But we haven't seen him take a big HW punch yet . . .
LittleBigMan 01-18-2005, 01:39 PM the dude has never been hurt in 70 fights
Xecutioner 01-18-2005, 02:22 PM please lets not give anyone this label, we all remember what happened to the last guy who called himself this lol :rolleyes:
Mike Tyson Jr. 01-18-2005, 02:32 PM you forgot to put tyson
on that list. tyson has been
tko'd and counted out but he
has never been put to sleep
like Roy Jones. When tyson
loss to holy it was a tko,not put
to sleep like RJJ.
when tyson loss to lennox
he stayed down on purpose.
when tyson loss to williams
it was because his knee got ripped.
when tyson losss to douglas
the ref stopped it, tyson was getting up.
Iron Mike Tyson belongs on your list.
jabsRstiff 01-18-2005, 02:33 PM Rick Reeno....
Please ban this irritant.
LittleBigMan 01-18-2005, 02:35 PM that's a pretty poor reason to ban someone. why don't you just deal with it like a man?
Kimmy 01-18-2005, 02:36 PM LOL, man that Mike Tyson Jr is funny. There is no way he is serious, he must be joking because no one is this stupid! Great joke thread Tysonjr, keep up the laughs!!
Mike Tyson Jr. 01-18-2005, 02:56 PM LOL, man that Mike Tyson Jr is funny. There is no way he is serious, he must be joking because no one is this stupid! Great joke thread Tysonjr, keep up the laughs!!
i'm not joking about anything
wtf are you talking about
you call me stupid yet
you support george w bush. look
whos talking.
Mr. Ryan 01-18-2005, 02:59 PM This Tysonjr idiot is ruining good threads, is an idiot, and on top of that, is a moron. Tyson was ktfo by Lewis, Williams, and Douglas. How 'bout dem apples?
Mike Tyson Jr. 01-18-2005, 03:14 PM This Tysonjr idiot is ruining good threads, is an idiot, and on top of that, is a moron. Tyson was ktfo by Lewis, Williams, and Douglas. How 'bout dem apples?
Oriental Sensation
i already told you
why he loss to
those guys. the argument
is over you got kayo'd.
Floydmayweather 01-18-2005, 03:16 PM James Toney by far i think his chin can with stand against almost any HW and he has never been in real trouble of getting knocked out.
jabsRstiff 01-18-2005, 03:18 PM [QUOTE=LittleBigMan]that's a pretty poor reason to ban someone. why don't you just deal with it like a man
Listen......If someone is obnoxious or confrontational, but occasionally offers something of value...I never call for their ban.
But, posters like this kid are here strictly to irritate.
I say ban him before he spams this place.
Mike Tyson Jr. 01-18-2005, 03:20 PM [QUOTE=LittleBigMan]that's a pretty poor reason to ban someone. why don't you just deal with it like a man
Listen......If someone is obnoxious or confrontational, but occasionally offers something of value...I never call for their ban.
But, posters like this kid are here strictly to irritate.
I say ban him before he spams this place.
just because i have a favorite fighter
you call that spamming? so you think everyone
has to share the same views as you?
that makes no sense at all.
jabsRstiff 01-18-2005, 03:23 PM just because i have a favorite fighter
you call that spamming? so you think everyone
has to share the same views as you?
that makes no sense at all.
This isn't about you supporting your boy....that's not what you're here to do.
You're here to annoy people, it's obvious.
But, as long as you have half-assers like "littlebigman" taking up your cause, you'll get to hang around longer than you should.
Mike Tyson Jr. 01-18-2005, 03:30 PM This isn't about you supporting your boy....that's not what you're here to do.
You're here to annoy people, it's obvious.
But, as long as you have half-assers like "littlebigman" taking up your cause, you'll get to hang around longer than you should.
just because you find me annoying
doesn't mean that is what I am here to do.
that is just your opinion. have you ever thought
that maybe other people find you annoying too.
Which fighter is the most durable fighter in boxing today, so durable that it seems impossible that he would be ko'ed? How about elusiveness, can't get ko'ed without being hit. Who's KO loss would surprise you the most? Here are my picks:
Vitali Klitschko
James Toney
Bernard Hopkins
Antonio Margarito
Miguel Cotto
Jose Luis Castillo
I can't see any of these guys getting ko'ed.
Castillo has been stopped before and Margarito couldve got KO in his last fight. Cotto hasnt been in enough fights to be on the list and he has stamina questions to answer which itself could lead to a KO
jpboxer3 01-18-2005, 04:19 PM Glen Johnson
dansweeney 01-18-2005, 04:25 PM just because you find me annoying
doesn't mean that is what I am here to do.
that is just your opinion. have you ever thought
that maybe other people find you annoying too.
you are more than annoying, you are an idiot! i love tyson too,but he got kayo'd 4 dam times man come on! you made rediculous excuses for each. the point is mike does not fit the topic of this thread, who would be shocked if he got kayo'd again?
Glen Johnson
Here you go again. I hardly ever say anything about Floyd but you say that Im on him. Everytime theres a thread you come with Glen Johnson. The guy has been stopped before. Stop being a groupie
Damn miketyson jr and people call me a nuthugger.
VK and Tua is without doubt the most unknockables.
LittleBigMan 01-18-2005, 05:42 PM I forgot about Tua. Tua survived bombs from Lewis and Ibeabuchi. He is unknockoutable
mauricio95 01-18-2005, 06:15 PM erik morales
!!Captain 01-18-2005, 06:43 PM i'm not joking about anything
wtf are you talking about
you call me stupid yet
you support george w bush. look
whos talking.
Man, if that avatar, in your opinion, supports Bush than you really must be stupid. Kids these days... :rolleyes:
!!Captain 01-18-2005, 06:44 PM Klichko has never been close to being KD, much less KO.
Enayze 01-18-2005, 07:12 PM the dude has never been hurt in 70 fights
The dude never took a "REAL" heavyweight shot in 70 fights. You see theres boxing, and than theres heavyweight boxing.
LittleBigMan 01-18-2005, 07:23 PM We'll see, brotha
dodge 01-18-2005, 07:26 PM Toney hasn't been KO'D in like 72 fights. Vitali and Tua have good chins too.
LittleBigMan 01-18-2005, 07:42 PM Klichko has never been close to being KD, much less KO.
some would say Corrie Sanders arguably put him down
his name is Klitschko by the way, you're missing like 2 of 10 letters
trinidadpr87 01-18-2005, 07:44 PM some would say Corrie Sanders arguably put him down
his name is Klitschko by the way, you're missing like 2 of 10 letters
i think he's taliking about vitali.
SweetScience 01-18-2005, 07:49 PM Anybody can be KO'd. Just ask Duran...
MlLkMan 01-18-2005, 08:56 PM Im going with Cotto, he looks like hopkins when he fights.
LittleBigMan 01-18-2005, 09:13 PM i think he's taliking about vitali.
I'm talking about Vitali as well.
trinidadpr87 01-18-2005, 09:16 PM I'm talking about Vitali as well.
than why did you say "some would say Corrie Sanders arguably put him down"
!!Captain 01-18-2005, 09:20 PM some would say Corrie Sanders arguably put him down
his name is Klitschko by the way, you're missing like 2 of 10 letters
I am talking about Vitaly Klichko, you are thinking about Wladimir. Klitschko could be spelled either way, any Russian speaking person will probably spell it Klichko.
!!Captain 01-18-2005, 09:23 PM I'm talking about Vitali as well.
Did you watch that fight?
LittleBigMan 01-18-2005, 09:28 PM I did. You can argue Vitali went down after a punch. Hey, if people can claim Lewis headbutted Vitali, then why is this unreasonable?
!!Captain 01-18-2005, 10:24 PM I did. You can argue Vitali went down after a punch. Hey, if people can claim Lewis headbutted Vitali, then why is this unreasonable?
At which point did Vitaly go down? I have seen this fight a few times and never was VK even close to going down. He got a good bomb from Sanders and klinched but if you call that a KD than fights would have KD every 30 seconds. BTW, I haven't seen claims that Lewis headbutted Vitaly, nor have I seen it in the fight. (I was there, it was extremely cool)
jpboxer3 01-18-2005, 10:47 PM Here you go again. I hardly ever say anything about Floyd but you say that Im on him. Everytime theres a thread you come with Glen Johnson. The guy has been stopped before. Stop being a groupie
Your just mad Floyd Mayweather is so Knockoutable dork! :p
jswa17 01-18-2005, 11:58 PM I think James Toney is the most difficult fighter to KO
Clay AikSkins 01-18-2005, 11:59 PM Laila Ali....lmao
tonytucker 01-19-2005, 12:46 AM I forgot about Tua. Tua survived bombs from Lewis and Ibeabuchi. He is unknockoutableFelix Savon slapped him upside down the head and Tua went down and was real hurt. Later brother brolog.
scramwarrior 01-19-2005, 12:46 AM If I'm going by speed and agility, Hopkins is the top choice. His body movement and ring savvy make it nearly impossible to land a good one. As for pure toughness and elusiveness, I'd say VK. This is a guy we have seen take some pretty nasty punches and he doesn't even go down. Very hard man to knockout IMO.
tonytucker 01-19-2005, 12:53 AM This isn't about you supporting your boy....that's not what you're here to do.
You're here to annoy people, it's obvious.
But, as long as you have half-assers like "littlebigman" taking up your cause, you'll get to hang around longer than you should.Please stop acting like a "Crack Hoar On Speed", there is nothing wrong with Mike Tyson Jr.Later brother brolog.
MikeHunt 01-19-2005, 01:13 AM Which fighter is the most durable fighter in boxing today, so durable that it seems impossible that he would be ko'ed? How about elusiveness, can't get ko'ed without being hit. Who's KO loss would surprise you the most? Here are my picks:
Vitali Klitschko
James Toney
Bernard Hopkins
Antonio Margarito
Miguel Cotto
Jose Luis Castillo
I can't see any of these guys getting ko'ed.
Unknockoutable? You should spend less time here and more in an english class.
jayschre 01-19-2005, 01:36 AM Anybody can be KO'd. Just ask Duran...
Amen to that, Anyone and everyone can be Knocked out, But My choices for best overall chins would probably be (in no order)
1)Morales(been dazed plenty hurt a few times even knocked down a couple times that I can remember, but always gets back up somehow, extremely tough!)
2)Tua(been out for a while but I still don't see him being ko'ed by anybody out right now)
3)Toney(we'll see hopefully soon , how he responds to a clean punch from a true heavyweight but right now he's on my list.
Others: V. Klitschko, B. Hopkins, Winky Wright, Ben Tackie, L. N`Dou, Jesus Chavez, Glen Johnson.
As for Tyson, True he could at one time take a decent punch and keep coming, but to me it seemed that after he got out of prison he had changed to a fighter looking for a way out of the fight once he would get hit clean. Hence the ear biting, Attempted arm breaking, and countless other incidents, But one thing is for sure his ass got ko'ed by Lewis,Douglas,and Holyfield. I' didn't include Williams simply cause even though he got counted out + had a hurt knee he clearly was not wanting to fight after the 1st rd. and the knockdown w/ knee injury was his way out.
tonytucker 01-19-2005, 01:38 AM Which fighter is the most durable fighter in boxing today, so durable that it seems impossible that he would be ko'ed? How about elusiveness, can't get ko'ed without being hit. Who's KO loss would surprise you the most? Here are my picks:
Vitali Klitschko
James Toney
Bernard Hopkins
Antonio Margarito
Miguel Cotto
Jose Luis Castillo
I can't see any of these guys getting ko'ed.Oliver McCall is the toughest of them all.Later brother brolog.
adeelr 01-19-2005, 01:50 AM every fighter is knockoutable. one punch can end it all. untill last year i thought that roy was unbeatable let alone knockoutable, but he suffered one of the most brutal knockouts i have ever seen in boxing. When W.klitchko was on top, everyone thought he was too good to be get knocked out but he was humiliated badly at the hands of average rated boxers. so a knockout can come to anyone, Bernard Hopkins better watchout.
Sister Sledge 01-19-2005, 02:01 AM Castillo was knocked out by Javier Jauregui twice and Cesar Soto. He was also stopped by Julio Alvarez but that was on cuts. Scratch him off your list
DLT, did you even see that fight with Johnson and Hopkins? Johnson was never knocked down or seriously hurt, the ref just stopped the fight because he was being so outclassed. If that fight happened now, they wouldn't even have thought about stopping the fight. The reason the fight was even stopped was because it happened around that time all those deaths were occuring in boxing, so the comissions were really paranoid. I remember that whole year they were stopping fights when the guy would just get wobbled a little.
enegue 01-19-2005, 07:08 AM Which fighter is the most durable fighter in boxing today, so durable that it seems impossible that he would be ko'ed? How about elusiveness, can't get ko'ed without being hit. Who's KO loss would surprise you the most? Here are my picks:
Vitali Klitschko
James Toney
Bernard Hopkins
Antonio Margarito
Miguel Cotto
Jose Luis Castillo
I can't see any of these guys getting ko'ed.
I think Cotto is still untested in the chin department! Not just yet... :confused: :confused: :confused:
bonafuwa 01-19-2005, 08:38 AM I see guys are throwing out names like Antonio Margarito, L. N'dou, Vitali Klitschko, Winky Wright and Glen Johnson. All these guys have been buzzed or seriously dazed in the past. Johnson was even stopped by Hopkins. If Shane Mosley can daze Wright (albeit for a few seconds only), I believe a Trinidad for instance can definetely stop him. Lets not forget a figher named Juarez almost stopped N'dou (was badly hurt and out on his feet) and Margarito was stunned by Santos a few times.
My picks: James Toney (based on his track record) and David Tua.
jabsRstiff 01-19-2005, 08:42 AM Unknockoutable? You should spend less time here and more in an english class.
We all understood what he meant.
jack_the_rippuh 01-19-2005, 08:47 AM The pound for pound king...Roy Jones Jr.
SweetScience 01-19-2005, 11:48 AM Some guys like Tua, who does have a good chin are afraid to take risks and possiably get KO'd. Like if Tua took more risks in the Lewis fight no doubt in my mind he would've been out. Damn even feather-fisted Byrd had Tua hurt in their fight. If they have a chin, dig to that body...there's a weak spot somewhere.
Verbl_Kint 01-19-2005, 12:15 PM Some guys like Tua, who does have a good chin are afraid to take risks and possiably get KO'd. Like if Tua took more risks in the Lewis fight no doubt in my mind he would've been out. Damn even feather-fisted Byrd had Tua hurt in their fight. If they have a chin, dig to that body...there's a weak spot somewhere.
Tua being vulnerable to Lewis and to Byrd is open to arguments from various sides.
tonytucker 01-19-2005, 06:29 PM Some guys like Tua, who does have a good chin are afraid to take risks and possiably get KO'd. Like if Tua took more risks in the Lewis fight no doubt in my mind he would've been out. Damn even feather-fisted Byrd had Tua hurt in their fight. If they have a chin, dig to that body...there's a weak spot somewhere.Tua found out 2 things very early in that fight-1. Lewis was a lot harder to fight than he thought,2. He hits very hard. Tua decided to be content with going the distance and lose-than to try to really presure Lewis and risk getting knocked out. Tua didn't presure Lewis, he followed him around the ring-you dig?. Later brother brolog.
Torino 01-19-2005, 06:44 PM There is no such thing as an unknockoutable fighter. Every boxer can and probably, will eventually get knocked out. it's the nature of the sport.
It's about who has the least favorable conditions to get knocked out.
justin04 01-19-2005, 09:41 PM vitali klitschko has a decent chin - lennox lewis of all people tagged him pretty good a couple of times, and he took it...
i'm gonna make everyone yell at me by saying that vassily jirov is the most un-knockoutable fighter around these days, even though he's been tko-ed twice recently. hear me out: the guy uses his head as a punch-absorber, like he doesn't even care that he's getting hit - i've almost never seen a heavyweight take as many solid head shots before going down as he did in the james toney fight - so i'm saying that because he absorbes such huge ammounts of punishment before going down, he deserves the iron-jaw award for the heavyweight division. if the guy actually learned some defensive skills he'd be a top-10 heavyweight, james toney level.
Counter Puncher 01-19-2005, 11:19 PM There is no such thing as an unknockoutable fighter. Every boxer can and probably, will eventually get knocked out. it's the nature of the sport.
It's about who has the least favorable conditions to get knocked out.
I agree.
But in relative terms, one of the hardest to knockout these days is Nedal Hussein. I saw him got hit hard a lot by Pacman and Larios and not even see a change in his facial expression or even a small trembling of knees! If this guy could only improve his boxing skills, he will be tough to beat.
jswa17 01-20-2005, 01:17 AM guys, James Toney ever got knocked down besides vs. RJ?
AKATheMack 01-20-2005, 01:58 AM Nobody here is mentioning Mayorga? If you can drop you hands against a fighter who is naturally 20 pounds heavier than you and is the hardest puncher in their weight division you are damn close to un****withable. He did get knocked down but down and out are two different things as far as putting him dwon from head shots not sure it could happen.
bonafuwa 01-20-2005, 02:01 AM Nobody here is mentioning Mayorga? If you can drop you hands against a fighter who is naturally 20 pounds heavier than you and is the hardest puncher in their weight division you are damn close to un****withable. He did get knocked down but down and out are two different things as far as putting him dwon from head shots not sure it could happen.
We're talking "unknockoutable" and you mention a foolish fighter (for dropping his hands against Tito) who just got knocked out? I agree he has an excellent chin, but the fact that he was stopped (head or body shot) eliminates him from consideration.
TheGreat1 01-20-2005, 04:43 AM what about Lamon Brewster, he has showed that he can take a punch better than any one out there today. Wlad Landed many clean punches, and could not put him away, not to mention he has never been KD
jabsRstiff 01-20-2005, 07:22 AM guys, James Toney ever got knocked down besides vs. RJ?
Reggie Johnson dropped him....& it was a better shot/knockdown than the one Toney suffered against Roy. The Roy one looked more like he was off-balance.
Mr. Ryan 01-20-2005, 02:18 PM Reggie Johnson dropped him....& it was a better shot/knockdown than the one Toney suffered against Roy. The Roy one looked more like he was off-balance.
The one with Roy Jones wasn't even a punch. Roy pushed him with an open glove.
RjjTyson 01-20-2005, 04:16 PM At the moment it is Manny Pacman, he moves so much like the old tyson it is almost impossible to hit him with a shot the will KO him
freirui 01-20-2005, 09:35 PM what about Lamon Brewster, he has showed that he can take a punch better than any one out there today. Wlad Landed many clean punches, and could not put him away, not to mention he has never been KD
You has never seen the fight,right?
Wlad KD Brewster with a single right hand in the 4th!!!
Brewster has never been KD on other fights.
psychopath 01-20-2005, 10:19 PM At present, Mayorga tops my list.
Sister Sledge 01-20-2005, 10:23 PM Hopkins is first with Erik Morales a close second.
Hurlex 01-20-2005, 10:51 PM margarito
mayorga (at 154 and below)
hopkins
morales(has a great chin,even tho i hate him-and dont think even pac will ko him)
r.marquez (if u come in trying to ko him,he will ko u first)
VK (height and reach are a big factor in HW divison,unlike in lower weights(middle on down) where skills can win a fight over height or reach...but i dont hate the guy at all)
castillo
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guys that i think will be ko'ed within 05
tito by hopkins
manny by morales
santos by mayorga
winky by tito
toney by VK
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