View Full Version : What about this? Heavyweight Question


MetalVomit
01-18-2005, 12:51 AM
Would everyone hate on Lennox Lewis for HAVING to fight such low level fighters as Kirk Johnson, Corrie Sanders and Danny Williams? Everyone hates on Vitali but it's not his fault that he is in such a horribly talented division. I am not a Klit nuthugger, but I don't understand how this man keeps KO'ing everyone in his path and the best people can say about him is that he's a robot. Well **** it, he's a robot that gets the job done, and he doesnt have to "Man Hug" (Ruiz) or slip and duck and wait for Don King's influence (Byrd-and dont say that the Oquendo and Golota fights werent bull**** gifts) to handle business. Is everyone just going to blowoff his next fight by saying that Rahman was out of shape after Vitali KO's him?

!!Captain
01-18-2005, 02:08 AM
Would everyone hate on Lennox Lewis for HAVING to fight such low level fighters as Kirk Johnson, Corrie Sanders and Danny Williams? Everyone hates on Vitali but it's not his fault that he is in such a horribly talented division. I am not a Klit nuthugger, but I don't understand how this man keeps KO'ing everyone in his path and the best people can say about him is that he's a robot. Well **** it, he's a robot that gets the job done, and he doesnt have to "Man Hug" (Ruiz) or slip and duck and wait for Don King's influence (Byrd-and dont say that the Oquendo and Golota fights werent bull**** gifts) to handle business. Is everyone just going to blowoff his next fight by saying that Rahman was out of shape after Vitali KO's him?

Nobody hated Lewis when he took on Rahman who was nobody at the time (lost to Maskaev and Tua prior) or for taking on Francois Botha or for loosing his belt because he didn't want to fight Ruiz.
Klichko is someone people are not used to seeing: a nice guy who doesn't talk ****, doesn't bite people, fights more than once a year, etc, etc. Unfortunately, people fear what they don't understand, that's all.
I think Klichko needs another Byrd fight to prove to all haters that he is legit. Unfortunately, DK will never let that fight happen.

Tha Greatest
01-18-2005, 02:22 AM
Don King is a *****!

Torino
01-18-2005, 02:30 AM
If Vitali beats Rahman, the anti-Klitschkos will say Rahman was....... out of shape, old, fat, only had a week to prepare, was given bad vasoline and poisoned water, forgot his lucky rabbits foot, thought he was at ballat class, and was about to retire anyway.

spinksjinx
01-18-2005, 08:57 AM
If Vitali beats Rahman, the anti-Klitschkos will say Rahman was....... out of shape, old, fat, only had a week to prepare, was given bad vasoline and poisoned water, forgot his lucky rabbits foot, thought he was at ballat class, and was about to retire anyway.


If Rahman comes in shape, anywhere between 220-230 and Vitali beats the living hell out of him. I will give praise to Vitali.

PBDS
01-18-2005, 09:53 AM
Would everyone hate on Lennox Lewis for HAVING to fight such low level fighters as Kirk Johnson, Corrie Sanders and Danny Williams? Everyone hates on Vitali but it's not his fault that he is in such a horribly talented division. I am not a Klit nuthugger, but I don't understand how this man keeps KO'ing everyone in his path and the best people can say about him is that he's a robot. Well **** it, he's a robot that gets the job done, and he doesnt have to "Man Hug" (Ruiz) or slip and duck and wait for Don King's influence (Byrd-and dont say that the Oquendo and Golota fights werent bull**** gifts) to handle business. Is everyone just going to blowoff his next fight by saying that Rahman was out of shape after Vitali KO's him?


....Certain guys will never give Vit his due no matter what he does. Obviously he is the real champ right now and anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves.

slickhook
01-18-2005, 09:59 AM
Would everyone hate on Lennox Lewis for HAVING to fight such low level fighters as Kirk Johnson, Corrie Sanders and Danny Williams? Everyone hates on Vitali but it's not his fault that he is in such a horribly talented division. I am not a Klit nuthugger, but I don't understand how this man keeps KO'ing everyone in his path and the best people can say about him is that he's a robot. Well **** it, he's a robot that gets the job done, and he doesnt have to "Man Hug" (Ruiz) or slip and duck and wait for Don King's influence (Byrd-and dont say that the Oquendo and Golota fights werent bull**** gifts) to handle business. Is everyone just going to blowoff his next fight by saying that Rahman was out of shape after Vitali KO's him?

The Klits are the ****s,
They can hit hard and fight in no holds barred.
Is he gay, I say no way.
But he isn't good enough to be starred.

leff
01-18-2005, 10:27 AM
Would everyone hate on Lennox Lewis for HAVING to fight such low level fighters as Kirk Johnson, Corrie Sanders and Danny Williams? Everyone hates on Vitali but it's not his fault that he is in such a horribly talented division. I am not a Klit nuthugger, but I don't understand how this man keeps KO'ing everyone in his path and the best people can say about him is that he's a robot. Well **** it, he's a robot that gets the job done, and he doesnt have to "Man Hug" (Ruiz) or slip and duck and wait for Don King's influence (Byrd-and dont say that the Oquendo and Golota fights werent bull**** gifts) to handle business. Is everyone just going to blowoff his next fight by saying that Rahman was out of shape after Vitali KO's him?

Even if he whopped prime lewis,louis,marciano,foremann,ali,liston,holmes,ty son and holyfield some would sill not recognice him.

He lost 2 fights (whisch is little) by injurie while LL was knocked out cold 2 times and still people recognice ll above weird.

Kimmy
01-18-2005, 10:46 AM
Erm....yes lewis was knocked cold but he also accumulated loads of wins against people like Tyson, Holyfield, Grant, Golota, Akinwande, Tua etc..so although KO losses his victories speak for themselves.
It always happens when a new era in heavyweight division starts. Larry Holmes was underrated because he followed Ali, Holyfield lived in the shadow of Tyson when he was champion ( however, he got to fight Tyson while Tyson still had something to offer ).
Klitscko will prove himself if he just puts up with the jibes and slowly clears out the division. Rahman is a good start and regards what shape Rahman is in if Klit beats him people will criticize it. No matter, If Vitaili is still champion in three years then i think people would be forced to admitt he is ( from the current collection of heavyweights ) the real deal!

pinkpanther
01-18-2005, 10:46 AM
who cares the heavies suck!

Toller
01-18-2005, 10:57 AM
Obviously he is the real champ right now and anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves.

Anyone who claims Vitali is obviously the real champ is fooling themselves IMO. Being the best and being the champ aren't the same thing in boxing.

Klitschko may be the best (and he is IMO), but right now there is no single champion in the heavyweight division, there are just different beltholders. Klitschko has the WBC belt. He hasn't got the WBA or the IBF belts, nor has he beaten the current beltholders.

LittleBigMan
01-18-2005, 01:14 PM
James Toney is going to save the heavyweight division, just you watch

Neuraxis
01-18-2005, 01:34 PM
James Toney is going to save the heavyweight division, just you watch

You mean the hot dog eating contest.

LittleBigMan
01-18-2005, 01:40 PM
Anyone who claims Vitali is obviously the real champ is fooling themselves IMO. Being the best and being the champ aren't the same thing in boxing.

Klitschko may be the best (and he is IMO), but right now there is no single champion in the heavyweight division, there are just different beltholders. Klitschko has the WBC belt. He hasn't got the WBA or the IBF belts, nor has he beaten the current beltholders.

i agree that Vitali is the best; however, he is not the champion. whoever wins 2/3 of the title is the champion at this point

leff
01-18-2005, 05:27 PM
i agree that Vitali is the best; however, he is not the champion. whoever wins 2/3 of the title is the champion at this point

Then there is no champ at his point and probably wont be unless king dies.

!!Captain
01-18-2005, 06:35 PM
Then there is no champ at his point and probably wont be unless king dies.

That's for sure

BrooklynBomber
01-18-2005, 07:55 PM
Actually Vitaly is pretty good in a fan department. Lenny was hated by almost everybody in America when he was at the same stage of his career as Vitaly. I remember reading so much **** about him anybody else would have probably chocked on it. Lewis only started to get respect after his win over Tyson. Actually Vit will get more recognition and fame after every fight that he will win. That was clearly not the case with Lennox.