are his hands really brittle or something?

Just wondering why

yes i think his hands are more brittle and hes used winning before and been succesful. i guess he figuted that it doesnt matter all that much

They talked about it in the fight,and did say that morales mentioned he'd use those gloves too,but that hes had hand problems before.

They talked about it in the fight,and did say that morales mentioned he'd use those gloves too,but that hes had hand problems before.


oh alright then. Thanks

are his hands really brittle or something?

Just wondering why

There's a saying ....Don't fix something that is not broken.. That's what Morales was thinking before the fight. It worked before, it's gonna work again right?

The people who said that "the gloves didn't matter" in the first fight are the one's asking "why morales didn't use reyes" in the second fight.

LMAO, how ironic :D

The people who said that "the gloves didn't matter" in the first fight are the one's asking "why morales didn't use reyes" in the second fight.

LMAO, how ironic :D

Take your nuthuggin elsewhere.

Chups good point,that was probably the logic behind it.

I personally don't think the gloves make a huge difference, if any, but if you believe it does, then I guess for you it does lol

I personally don't think the gloves make a huge difference, if any, but if you believe it does, then I guess for you it does lol

I dont think so either, in either fight,but the question there was, why wouldnt he?

The gloves do not matter, it is the boxer in em not the gloves.

**** the gloves.

I dont think so either, in either fight,but the question there was, why wouldnt he?

What can I say, when you're right, you're right lol

it does matter matter. look at Erik's face. It was disfigured! lol

The gloves do not matter, it is the boxer in em not the gloves.

EM and his team did not think that the gloves matter so they used the same gloves ...

IMHO it matter even how small the fraction maybe, against this figther a little fraction means the difference ... EM hit pac with a lot of punches if he was using Reyes maybe just maybe pac would have slow down a little bit more ...

I don't think it's the gloves. It's just that Pacquiao came with a slightly different gameplan and stuck to it. He used more right hands and body punches. Besides, Morales looked slow as early as round 6 and Pacquiao just kept the same fast pace.

The people who said that "the gloves didn't matter" in the first fight are the one's asking "why morales didn't use reyes" in the second fight.

LMAO, how ironic :D

you talking to me? I simply wondered why he didn't use it

i hope people dont really think the gloves played any role
if so
ur only taken credit away from pac
he showed he made a mistake the 1st fight
didnt train right
and didnt concentrate
2nd time around
he trained hard
and was focused
had nothin to do with the gloves
NOTHING
it was all Pac

Take your nuthuggin elsewhere.

Chups good point,that was probably the logic behind it.
Does it hurt to make you eat your words?

Gloves does matter because different gloves have different styles on how they are made and the advantages and con's of using them.

Using Winning gloves protects your hands well and its thick paddings gives it excellent protection to the head and also the body. The con's of using winning is that you trade power for defense and protection.

The pro's of using Reyes is that the paddings on the front of the gloves is designed in such a way that the impact of the power punches will have a VERY sick snap whenever a punch is landed, hence the full impact of a punch will be felt. The con's is that it doesn't provide much of a protection and the longer the fight goes, the more risk the figher is exposed to hand injuries.

Now all those people who said gloves didn't matter...

THEY'RE EATING THEIR WORDS AGAIN. HOW IRONIC. :)

i hope people dont really think the gloves played any role
if so
ur only taken credit away from pac
he showed he made a mistake the 1st fight
didnt train right
and didnt concentrate
2nd time around
he trained hard
and was focused
had nothin to do with the gloves
NOTHING
it was all Pac

i am a pacfan and not taking anything from Pac's victory over Erik but i do consider a lot of factors contributing to Pac's victory which includes but not limited to ... focus, training, using the right hand more, stick with gameplan (attack both body and the head), added confidence using his "Gloves", added punch impact using Reyes, Erik vulnerable at 130 (he should have paid PAC 1.25M Dollars to add at five pounds)...

EM interview after PAC-EM 1 .... I did not feel his power, out of 10 he is a five (winning)

EM interview after PAC-EM 2 ... he hits hard (Reyes)

I am not saying that by using a different gloves alone will win a fight but IMHO it does contribute something to the outcome of a fight how little of a fraction it maybe ...

so what's the latest abt. EM, is he really injured? will there be a 3rd fight?

i am a pacfan and not taking anything from Pac's victory over Erik but i do consider a lot of factors contributing to Pac's victory which includes but not limited to ... focus, training, using the right hand more, stick with gameplan (attack both body and the head), added confidence using his "Gloves", added punch impact using Reyes, Erik vulnerable at 130 (he should have paid PAC 1.25M Dollars to add at five pounds)...

EM interview after PAC-EM 1 .... I did not feel his power, out of 10 he is a five (winning)

EM interview after PAC-EM 2 ... he hits hard (Reyes)

I am not saying that by using a different gloves alone will win a fight but IMHO it does contribute something to the outcome of a fight how little of a fraction it maybe ...

idk
to me
the gloves had nothin to do with it
i dont think they really gave him more confidence
his confidence came from the all the other stuff u mentioned
better trainin
better plan
better excecution of his plan
morales say before he didnt hit hard wasnt cuz of the gloves
its becuz pac was not 100%prepared
well atleast to me
to me the gloves are never goin to be a legitamte excuse/reason/whatever
pac trained better this time around
and he took his oppurtunity in the fight and ran with it
thats boxing
to me eriks still more skilled
he just got beat

to be with the majority I'dd say the gloves didnt matter :D

But could you guys give me any idea why ARUM and team Morales made sure that PAC will wear the gloves of their choice in the 1 st fight by stipulating it in the contract???? :eek:


but id say it didnt matter, maybe arum think it does?? - uLOL

for reals
just to fuk with pac
just cuz they could
u know what i mean
a power trip
its nothin big
but i say so
so its so kinda thing

for reals
just to fuk with pac
just cuz they could
u know what i mean
a power trip
its nothin big
but i say so
so its so kinda thing

Could be....i can agree with that..

i agree that we need to produce more PAC caliber fighters to make it a country rivaly.

we have produced Good to Great Boxers in Villa, Elorde, Garcia, Villaflor, Navarette, Espinosa (Who beat a handfull of tough mexicans of his time), penalosas


as well as promising young guns in Mayol, Tunacao, Bautista, GOrres, Jaca and our only half current champion(half because he lives in hawaii), Villoria.


I really hope a rivalry developed, a healthy one :boxing:

ya
thats what makes it a rivalry
top guys taken on top guys
i mean those gusy u mentioned beatin a lot of tough mexicans isnt grounds for a rivalry
lots of countrys have lots of fighters that have lots of wins over "tough" mexicans
but what makes the mex-PR a rivalry
is our top guns go to war
and many top guns

The only thing the gloves did for Pacquiao was help him mentally.

Mayweather has used the same pillow gloves in his last three fights and has three stoppages. He used the pillow gloves against Ndou and stopped him. He used the pillow gloves against Corley and got a few knockdowns with them. I think he even used them against Jesus Chavez and Mayweather's the only one to stop him.

Morales has very prominant knuckles. He usually wears Winning gloves except with he fought Jesus Chavez. He borked his right hand whilst using Reyes gloves.

The only thing the gloves did for Pacquiao was help him mentally.

Mayweather has used the same pillow gloves in his last three fights and has three stoppages. He used the pillow gloves against Ndou and stopped him. He used the pillow gloves against Corley and got a few knockdowns with them. I think he even used them against Jesus Chavez and Mayweather's the only one to stop him.

Manny Steward said that Pac has never really used Winning before. And with Winning, he wasn't able to close his fist all the way like he can with Reyes.

The gloves do not matter, it is the boxer in em not the gloves.



Mayweather used to hurt his hands alot. I thought I read where he said that after he switched gloves, his hands are much more protected. I was watching a broadcast and they referred to the gloves as "pillows".

But as with ANY other piece of sports equipment, it's a matter of what you feel comfortable with - and that comfort breeds confidence.

Tiger Woods used an out-of-date driver for a long time. Baseball players go ballistic if you change their bats.

Manny feels comfortable in Reyes, and Erik likes Winning.

Manny Steward said that Pac has never really used Winning before. And with Winning, he wasn't able to close his fist all the way like he can with Reyes.

I think this may be the right explanation. If Pac's not able to punch in a way his fist is accustomed to, then he might not be punching more confidently or with the extra power. With Winning, it's hard to really close your fist.

Morales didnt wear Reyes, becuz he prefers Winning. This shyt is basic and a thread wasnt necessary!

He ran the risk of breaking his hands, which would have led to a Pacquiao KO even earlier

morales would rather fight while keeping his hands intact rather than putting them at risk of breaking.

you talking to me? I simply wondered why he didn't use it
what bothered me though was he had a press release that he was going to use reyes... he was trying to engage into a psy war with pac but he gave up in the end. :D

there will be a point in time when manny will be using winning because of the damage his hands are getting... his hands after the JMM and erik 2 fights alone are dead serious... swelling so much...

are his hands really brittle or something?

Just wondering why


Eric simply doesn't want to take the risk of hurting his hands again. And it's good he used his preffered gloves rather than being "forced" to use the other brand because otherwise it will become another issue again. :)