View Full Version : New Here..some questions


Sock-Puppet
01-29-2006, 09:44 PM
hey, I just started taking up boxing about 3 weeks ago, as a hobby. Plus, since I'm going to VMI (virginia military institute, they require boxing, wrestling, and swimming as P.E. courses)
I'm 17 years old,slim 6'0, 150 lbs(I'm always this weight-why?)
Anywho, the guy makes us do 3 minutes of an activity, with a 1 minutes rest break( during which, we have to do 20 sit-ups or 10 push-ups), and then 3 minutes of acitvity again. Activities range from 3 rounds of jump rope ( 9minutes), shadow boxing ( 5 lb dumbells) heavy bag, medicine ball, stationary bike. In the meantime, he teaches bit by bit. Of course, before all of this, we gotta do 15 minutes of stretching. Is this all good? Could there be any other activities I could be doing to improve? I know one area I would like to work on is my chest, my pecs, becuase right now, if you hit, it got no nothing there, just a chest plate, so I need to bulk up some muscle there..any hints?
Thanks for any help at all, I know it's a handful, but I'm really enjoying boxing so far, ( had my first spar the other day- that will lead to another post)

Sock-Puppet
01-30-2006, 03:10 PM
suggestions, anyone, please?

enadeus
01-30-2006, 03:43 PM
Well since you are a just a begginer you should listen to your trainer. He will gradually build you up. 6'0 and 150 is rather slim for that height but it gives you an advatage over your opponents. You can probably drop to 140 after you get all that water out. For now, just do the basics, more or less what your coach tells you and you will do fine.

enadeus
01-30-2006, 03:45 PM
As for the chest muscle, do some bench pressing. Elevated and flat will do the trick. I suggest 3 sets of 8-12 reps raising the weight up at least 5-10 pounds each time you finish a set and resting a good 1-3 minutes between sets. That should build muslce in your chest, but it will also gain you weight.

leff
01-30-2006, 03:54 PM
suggestions, anyone, please?

if you want to gain weight you ned to EAT A LOT

Sock-Puppet
01-30-2006, 11:23 PM
are there any exercises that I can do at home w/o a bench press and barbells, that will work the pecs? Second, what's better, sit-ups or crunches? Right now, I've been doing crunches..but I was never quite clear on the advantages/dis of either one...

leff
01-31-2006, 04:00 AM
are there any exercises that I can do at home w/o a bench press and barbells, that will work the pecs? Second, what's better, sit-ups or crunches? Right now, I've been doing crunches..but I was never quite clear on the advantages/dis of either one...

do both situpps and crunces, whats pecs in latin? (so ill understand what muscle group where talking about).

patto1984
01-31-2006, 05:53 AM
pushups with claps inbetween and incline push ups, eat alot more protein and heavy weights and rest to gain muscle mass

Sock-Puppet
01-31-2006, 03:56 PM
leff, pecs are the chest muscles, in between the shoulders, and below the neck ( nipple region :)
ok, so clap pushups- that's just clapping your hands after you have pushed yourself up, right?
and inclined pushups- pushups on an inclined plane, i guess?
plus, about how many should i do...like 2x15, every other day?

TOPitBull
02-01-2006, 10:08 AM
2 x 15? LOL

3x50 is more like it.

Sock-Puppet
02-01-2006, 10:24 PM
3x50? ok, i wasn't sure, cool..so that will help with the muscle buil-up in the chest, along with diet ( i'm currently on a protein-based diet)

-Jay-
02-01-2006, 10:28 PM
You need a diet full of carbs and protien to build muscle, if you are on the atkins diet it is impossible to gain any muscle.

leff
02-02-2006, 08:33 AM
leff, pecs are the chest muscles, in between the shoulders, and below the neck ( nipple region :)
ok, so clap pushups- that's just clapping your hands after you have pushed yourself up, right?
and inclined pushups- pushups on an inclined plane, i guess?
plus, about how many should i do...like 2x15, every other day?


different pushupps and dipps are good for the pecs.

but if you want to gain muscle, you should lift heavy and eat like crazy.

leff
02-02-2006, 08:34 AM
3x50? ok, i wasn't sure, cool..so that will help with the muscle buil-up in the chest, along with diet ( i'm currently on a protein-based diet)

than it will be hard to gain weight

LHWchamp5
02-02-2006, 09:27 AM
you said yoru 6'0 and always 150.. do you find it hard to build muscle??
If so you might have a prob..
I've read about various body types and what you said comes to mind..

Tall/skinny has a hard time keeping weight on, are your bones brital??
You may be one of those peeps that no matter how hard you work, the results will be minimal.. If thats the case, I don't suggest you box.. ?Usually the reason for this is that your frame is small and the added weight causes too much stress on joints..
though you are only 17 and your just starting.. Give it a shot and if you feel your joints (shoulders, knees and back) are getting weeker or cracking i suggest you consult a doc for pro advise..

leff
02-02-2006, 10:29 AM
you said yoru 6'0 and always 150.. do you find it hard to build muscle??
If so you might have a prob..
I've read about various body types and what you said comes to mind..

Tall/skinny has a hard time keeping weight on, are your bones brital??
You may be one of those peeps that no matter how hard you work, the results will be minimal.. If thats the case, I don't suggest you box.. ?Usually the reason for this is that your frame is small and the added weight causes too much stress on joints..
though you are only 17 and your just starting.. Give it a shot and if you feel your joints (shoulders, knees and back) are getting weeker or cracking i suggest you consult a doc for pro advise..


yeah its sems like he is an ectomorph, so if he is gonna gain muscle he needs to eat like crazy

Sock-Puppet
02-02-2006, 04:22 PM
actually, i've heard that ectomorph thing before, and i have begun eatin like crazy, i'm now at 5 meals a day, and when i meant a protein diet, i meant, i no longer eat like fast food, junk food,but instead i've acutally begun eatin grilled chicken, salads, seafood, potatoes, etc--that's what i meant for protien-based diet ( more food, with more protein)

and , no, i don't have brittle bones, and no they are'nt weak, although, i would say I am a bony person...

yeh, for push-ups, right now, ( i just began like 3 weeks ago) i do 7 push-ups, pyramid routine
( u know, you do 1, rest 10 secs, do 2, rest 10 secs, do 3 rest, do 4, do 5, do6 ,do 7, then do 7, do 6, do 5, etc)
then i do diamond push-ups unitl failure...i can usually only do up to 15 :(

any other push-ups i should know about? ( i didn't think push-ups would work the chest?)

Sock-Puppet
02-03-2006, 04:13 PM
bumpity bump bump

supaduck
02-03-2006, 06:19 PM
Ectomorph Schmectomorph. Thomas Hearns was one of them. Im definitely Meso, but I know a couple of good fighters who are of Endo or Ecto morphs.

Pugnacious_Z
02-04-2006, 05:14 AM
supaduck, u cant be meso, ur 5ft 11 and 150lbs.
Second of all, being an ecto,meso endo has nothin to do with boxing ability, absolutely nuthing. thomas hearns was a full on ecto and look at him. and no1 is fully ecto,meso or endo. your only more of one thing then the other. a person could have the frame of a ecto and the muscle mass of a meso and the fat of a endo, its all mixed up. an extreme body type is a weird thing to see. an extreme ecto wud be very lanky with practically no muscle. and extreme meso would be a wide, thick guy with large amount of muscle mass, and an extreme endo would be a very fat guy

leff
02-04-2006, 06:34 AM
supaduck, u cant be meso, ur 5ft 11 and 150lbs.
Second of all, being an ecto,meso endo has nothin to do with boxing ability, absolutely nuthing. thomas hearns was a full on ecto and look at him. and no1 is fully ecto,meso or endo. your only more of one thing then the other. a person could have the frame of a ecto and the muscle mass of a meso and the fat of a endo, its all mixed up. an extreme body type is a weird thing to see. an extreme ecto wud be very lanky with practically no muscle. and extreme meso would be a wide, thick guy with large amount of muscle mass, and an extreme endo would be a very fat guy


uuuum it easier for an endo to gain mas than for a meso