Ok I don't wanna come across as a woman hater because I love women to death. Alright but I know some of you guys noticed this about chics...They claim up and down they "want a nice guy"...but when you become that nice guy your ass gets dumped. This has happened to me on 3 occasions, I noticed that women I have dated are more attracted to me when I am a jerk. I even notice this about my girlfriend, when I am being nice she will say or do things to rile me up. I am pretty sure women only say they want a nice guy...but in reality they lust after the jerk or the "bad boy". A good argument for this is OJ Simpson look at how that dude still gets major putnany...after all that horrible stuff he got accused of. If chics really like nice guys a dude like that would be ostracized. Let me know if I'm right or wrong.




I must also add that this only seems to be true of American chics...because non-American chics seem to have a different set of values. And so it seems...so far.

In the movie fast times at Ridgemont high they give some manly advice that everyone should strictly adheare too.

"You don't care if a chick cums, stays, lays, or prays, and if you got that then you got the attitude...it's a poker game with the females, even if you are really into a chick you still have to act like you have a 3/4 unsuited...you can still be nice, sweet charming...but in her mind she needs to know at some level that you don't care if she cums stays lays or prays...this is proven to work and it sounds like your on the right track!

It occasionally works the other way, as well.

I have a friend who has always snagged the babes....He was used to having his ass kissed by the ones he decided to LET stay around.

Well....he's been dating this girl for two years, & she has him all off balance.
She's hot & cold with him...always frowning when he speaks....almost cringing when he touches her.
Of course, he's madly in love with her. She's not even all that attractive physically, either. Certainly not as attractive as the ones he'd chuck.
Now....he lives for that fleeting moment where she's nice to him, or shows appoval.

She has defeated him.

Not like the caveman days when you could club them on the head and do what you will to them. You get in trouble for that... Even if they are your mother or sister

Well my ex lost the interest the nicer i got and the more feelings i showed, but there is big difference between women som like the nice and some like the bad.

My nicest friend has the finest girl.

It occasionally works the other way, as well.

I have a friend who has always snagged the babes....He was used to having his ass kissed by the ones he decided to LET stay around.

Well....he's been dating this girl for two years, & she has him all off balance.
She's hot & cold with him...always frowning when he speaks....almost cringing when he touches her.
Of course, he's madly in love with her. She's not even all that attractive physically, either. Certainly not as attractive as the ones he'd chuck.
Now....he lives for that fleeting moment where she's nice to him, or shows appoval.

She has defeated him.


I completely understand exactly what you are talking about...your friend has to strictly adhere to the ridgemount motto, this chick he is in too is obviously using it and he needs to use it back...if she shows affection great thats nice but you can't get too excited-treat it as if it is no big deal, if she breaks plans big deal, you are going to a club with some of your boys anyways...chances are he will loose her but his only shot at gaining her true affection is to play the game better than she can and hopefully he will break her but chances are he will just save face...it is a necesary evil...but it sounds as if it is his only option...play the game better than her!

I completely understand exactly what you are talking about...your friend has to strictly adhere to the ridgemount motto, this chick he is in too is obviously using it and he needs to use it back...if she shows affection great thats nice but you can't get too excited-treat it as if it is no big deal, if she breaks plans big deal, you are going to a club with some of your boys anyways...chances are he will loose her but his only shot at gaining her true affection is to play the game better than she can and hopefully he will break her but chances are he will just save face...it is a necesary evil...but it sounds as if it is his only option...play the game better than her!


yeah that's some **** man...whenever you show kindness or emotion they see it as weakness...it's really just a big game...and it's all about who can play the game better.

i thought leff was a girl, sorry leff :o . flirt, them ignore them for a while and make them come to you, always seems to work pretty well. it just has to be done over and over. i think alot of them really do enjoy playing little games, i for one cant stand that **** but if thats what you have to do to win then go with it.

i thought leff was a girl, sorry leff :o . flirt, them ignore them for a while and make them come to you, always seems to work pretty well. it just has to be done over and over. i think alot of them really do enjoy playing little games, i for one cant stand that **** but if thats what you have to do to win then go with it.



i agree man...some of them respond to you by you showing absolutely no interest in them...it's like they exist in a world that is counter logic.

What can ya do? Ya can't give sheep the nod. I have known many chicks that loved to be treated like crap but I have also met ones that were not into playing games at all, didn't like the mental abuse, and I could actually predict with certainty how they would respond to a given situation. For the most part they definitely prefer the bad boy though.

i thought leff was a girl, sorry leff :o . flirt, them ignore them for a while and make them come to you, always seems to work pretty well. it just has to be done over and over. i think alot of them really do enjoy playing little games, i for one cant stand that **** but if thats what you have to do to win then go with it.

Girl?????? lol what made you think that? Leff aint very girly is it?

Im so ****ing tired of this games but i guess i have to live with it since the girls are like 16-18 year olds.

i agree man...some of them respond to you by you showing absolutely no interest in them...it's like they exist in a world that is counter logic.

I know young girls are so ****ing complicated.

Girls are attracted to "Bad boys" and lets face it, we're attracted to "bad girls" :D

Girls are attracted to "Bad boys" and lets face it, we're attracted to "bad girls" :D

Speak for yourself i love the sweet innocent ones

Speak for yourself i love the sweet innocent ones

Nah, They don't put out. ;)

i agree man...some of them respond to you by you showing absolutely no interest in them...it's like they exist in a world that is counter logic.

its not that. it is because you are ugly and leave fingerprints on their windows :D

its not that. it is because you are ugly and leave fingerprints on their windows :D


**** boy that aint what you said about me last nite when you kneeled down to the Swift man-steak. :D

Girls are attracted to "Bad boys" and lets face it, we're attracted to "bad girls" :D


that is true to some degree...but i dont think us guys are as picky as women...we'll basically give it to any half decent looking woman who is ready, willing and able. :D

**** boy that aint what you said about me last nite when you kneeled down to the Swift man-steak. :D

you got me confused with your pops. but now we all know you like dudes sucking you off :D

you got me confused with your pops. but now we all know you like dudes sucking you off :D



especially dudes that go by the name of the fix... i heard you like the ball drip....ha ha ha :D

especially dudes that go by the name of the fix... i heard you like the ball drip....ha ha ha :D

good thing my real name isnt the fix or else i might be in some real trouble :p

good thing my real name isnt the fix or else i might be in some real trouble :p



you can always get your name changed at any courthouse...i'm in need of a good bj....ha ha ha :D

I made the same thread:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2936

I made the same thread:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2936



This happens once in a while...with all the threads on this site there is no way to know if the subject was brought up already. Our threads aren't exactly alike anyway, yours has a ghetto gangsta twist to it...while mine is more universal so EVERYONE can relate. I also got my thread idea from listening to radio personality Tom Leykis, I never saw your thread in my life. Peace.

This happens once in a while...with all the threads on this site there is no way to know if the subject was brought up already. Our threads aren't exactly alike anyway, yours has a ghetto gangsta twist to it...while mine is more universal so EVERYONE can relate. I also got my thread idea from listening to radio personality Tom Leykis, I never saw your thread in my life. Peace.
A quck synopsis of my thread:
I am angered at the fact that my kindness is not an asset, yet a detriment, in my dating life. I respond in kind by turning into a monster at times, ironically to more success.

A quck synopsis of my thread:
I am angered at the fact that my kindness is not an asset, yet a detriment, in my dating life. I respond in kind by turning into a monster at times, ironically to more success.



it's fukin unfortunate man but it's true...count your self lucky for learning it early as young as you are. some dudes don't get a clue until they are into there 30's or even older. i've seen dudes get played by a ***** while in their 40's. like this one 44 year old dude i work with...that dude is gettin played like a ***** constantly because he don't know the game...he thinks the nice guy approach is the only way. that's why his ass is old and alone constantly getting dumped. BUT there are some women who dont like jerks...the trick is to find out which is which...like I said count yourself lucky that you found this out at a young age.

If you are a GENUINE nice guy.....don't sell that out just to get some *****.

If you are criticizing certain types of women for being attracted to bad boys only....then you are a fool for being attracted to that type of woman.

If you have to alter your personality & fake like you're a jerk to get some girl to like you....you'll never be happy.

Be a man....& suck it up if you aren't liked for who you are.

If you are a GENUINE nice guy.....don't sell that out just to get some *****.

If you are criticizing certain types of women for being attracted to bad boys only....then you are a fool for being attracted to that type of woman.

If you have to alter your personality & fake like you're a jerk to get some girl to like you....you'll never be happy.

Be a man....& suck it up if you aren't liked for who you are.


are you talkin to me or asian sensation?

I'm talking to anyone who will listen..........

The thing is, it's bull****. If I'm going to lose in the end, I'm not gonna go out like I'm a chump. When I was 13, I asked this girl out who I was in Spanish I with. She told me I was too nice. Too nice? What the **** kind of bull**** is that? My problem's have been this:

1. I smile too much.
2. I talk too much.
3. I tell the truth out of habit.
4. I'm too nice.
5. I'm too predictable.
When I break free from these habits, it seems I have alot more success. It's ****ed up that I'm not successful as myslef, but **** happens.

I'm talking to anyone who will listen..........



well i disagree with you a little...just like anything in life being a nice guy don't always work...there is some truth to the saying "nice guys finish last"...some times you gotta lay down the law to be successful just like anything in life. for example if you wanted to be the top salesman you do it by using your cunning, your wit, a gameplan...being a salesman is not much different from dating women.

well i disagree with you a little...just like anything in life being a nice guy don't always work...there is some truth to the saying "nice guys finish last"...some times you gotta lay down the law to be successful just like anything in life. for example if you wanted to be the top salesman you do it by using your cunning, your wit, a gameplan...being a salesman is not much different from dating women.


Well.....there's only one kind of money out there for us to grab.
There's a variety of different women.

So, the salesman equation doesn't apply here.

Most girls (but not all) definitely don't like overly nice guys. I think they see that as a weak & wimpy trait, not strong and manly.

Plus it's human nature to want what you can't (or is more difficult to) have!

Most girls (but not all) definitely don't like overly nice guys. I think they see that as a weak & wimpy trait, not strong and manly.

Plus it's human nature to want what you can't (or is more difficult to) have!
And people wonder why I'm bi-polar.

And people wonder why I'm bi-polar.


Never gave that much thought.
I have wondered why you're such a *****....

Its true women are confussing as hell but whatcha gonna do?

donkeypunch them

Ahh you got to mix it up on 'em. Once in a while you have to freak out on them. Tell them you should have never gotten together, call her a *****, stupid *****, sometimes even a cunt. It will blow over. I think women want to see how much **** she can put her man through. Once these nice guys are beaten down. The challenge for the female is over, so they move on. Once in a while let her know your not going to take ALL of her ****. she'll stay around. ;)

I describe women like this:
"You can't be with them,
But you can't be without them".

Life..............

Woman I love you....I mean women. :D

interesting thread, some good advice by jabsRstiff, it's good to see that some people know how things work.

Well try being nice only some of the time. Confuses the hell out of us, which only makes us more curious so we want to hang around longer.

The counter logic comment was true though, about wanting nice guys then blowing them off. There was a guy that was really sweet and he'd liked Cheyenne since last year. Then in January of this year, he came up to her and told her all this stuff about him liking her and thinking she was soooooo beautiful, and he wanted to take her out to dinner and blah blah blah. She laughed in his face then we called him a panzee and left. Now I feel kind of bad though....... but it's still a little funny.

...he came up to her and told her all this stuff about him liking her and thinking she was soooooo beautiful, and he wanted to take her out to dinner and blah blah blah. She laughed in his face then we called him a panzee and left. Now I feel kind of bad though....... but it's still a little funny.

WOMEN ARE THE DEVIL!

Did his penis shrivel up and die?

Poor kid is probably scarred for life.

I don't know, we don't talk to him lol. I think his name was Aaron Phillips or something. He was very.............odd I guess. He used to follow her home, she never even noticed though. It was kind of scary.

I don't know, we don't talk to him lol. I think his name was Aaron Phillips or something. He was very.............odd I guess. He used to follow her home, she never even noticed though. It was kind of scary.

Well I'm gonna look him up and tell him it's ok, then
I'll introduce him to a bunch of chicks that'll show him
their parts.

What if he followed her home to make sure she wasn't mugged
or something, ever think of that!?

I'M NOT FOLLOWING YOU I'M PROTECTING YOU...marry me!!

Ok I don't wanna come across as a woman hater because I love women to death. Alright but I know some of you guys noticed this about chics...They claim up and down they "want a nice guy"...but when you become that nice guy your ass gets dumped. This has happened to me on 3 occasions, I noticed that women I have dated are more attracted to me when I am a jerk. I even notice this about my girlfriend, when I am being nice she will say or do things to rile me up. I am pretty sure women only say they want a nice guy...but in reality they lust after the jerk or the "bad boy". A good argument for this is OJ Simpson look at how that dude still gets major putnany...after all that horrible stuff he got accused of. If chics really like nice guys a dude like that would be ostracized. Let me know if I'm right or wrong




I must also add that this only seems to be true of American chics...because non-American chics seem to have a different set of values. And so it seems...so far.



I Can honestly say I Know a lot of women that are like that but don't give up we're not all like that :p

who gives a **** what women want?

you think women are always worried if theyre acting the right way to guys? no!

why should you give a ****...if they do something you dont like, dump them, plain and simple.

you make sacrifices when you see they make sacrifices. you show em some affection when they show you tons of affection.

women are really not that difficult. the problem is you guys let too much **** slide without realizing theres millions of girls out there. women will dump you whenever they feel like it, but *****s always try to hang on for that extra week hoping things change.

doesnt happen.

who gives a **** what women want?

you think women are always worried if theyre acting the right way to guys? no!

why should you give a ****...if they do something you dont like, dump them, plain and simple.

you make sacrifices when you see they make sacrifices. you show em some affection when they show you tons of affection.

women are really not that difficult. the problem is you guys let too much **** slide without realizing theres millions of girls out there. women will dump you whenever they feel like it, but *****s always try to hang on for that extra week hoping things change.

doesnt happen.


^word! shasho knows his stuff!

Like the saying goes "IF chivalry is dead Women Killed it"

Let me tell you this Men in General don't wanna treat a woman like **** heck takes to much energy, you think anyone likes doing that? naw unless they are a messed up in the head, it is WOMEN who liked being treated that way it sounds sick but it is true. Like Shasho said show them affection when they show you tons of it they want you to make them work. I find that the best time to show them affection is when you sexing them because women love affection and some girls will actually wanna have sex with you more often to get it, CAUTION: I said some girls this will not work with every girl only the ones who grew up with lowself esteem or in the hood and like a roughneck.

^word! shasho knows his stuff!

Like the saying goes "IF chivalry is dead Women Killed it"

Let me tell you this Men in General don't wanna treat a woman like **** heck takes to much energy, you think anyone likes doing that? naw unless they are a messed up in the head, it is WOMEN who liked being treated that way it sounds sick but it is true. Like Shasho said show them affection when they show you tons of it they want you to make them work. I find that the best time to show them affection is when you sexing them because women love affection and some girls will actually wanna have sex with you more often to get it, CAUTION: I said some girls this will not work with every girl only the ones who grew up with lowself esteem or in the hood and like a roughneck.

Lol, you guys have got to figure out that not all women are like that; they dont ALL prefer to be treated badly. Believe it or not, that type of woman is really in the minority.

I choose "Not"

I choose "Not"

lol, okay, cant say I didnt try :D

Lol, you guys have got to figure out that not all women are like that; they dont ALL prefer to be treated badly. Believe it or not, that type of woman is really in the minority.

thats true, i didnt say treating women bad is good, i said a woman has to earn their respect.

just like women say when you say something offensive, "would you treat your mother like that?!"...well *****, my mother held me in her stomach for 9 months and raised me for 18 years, she DESERVES respect...what have YOU done for me lately?

its like if you tell every girl, "oh, would you treat your father like that?!"...of course not, but females get away with it...

so basically what im sayin is, if a woman respects you or is super nice to you, then you can be nice to her back or show her some respect. the problem is, when women are NOT nice, guys think you have to be extra nice and HOPE that shes nice back, and it backfires.

guys need to start being like a woman in relationships and expect more out of these *****es haha

thats true, i didnt say treating women bad is good, i said a woman has to earn their respect.

just like women say when you say something offensive, "would you treat your mother like that?!"...well *****, my mother held me in her stomach for 9 months and raised me for 18 years, she DESERVES respect...what have YOU done for me lately?

its like if you tell every girl, "oh, would you treat your father like that?!"...of course not, but females get away with it...

so basically what im sayin is, if a woman respects you or is super nice to you, then you can be nice to her back or show her some respect. the problem is, when women are NOT nice, guys think you have to be extra nice and HOPE that shes nice back, and it backfires.

guys need to start being like a woman in relationships and expect more out of these *****es haha

It should be a mutual thing..they should respect each other and treat each other better, at the same time. I dont think that a guy should kiss a girls ass for any reason, especially if she's being mean to him..hell, just let it go and move on.

Papishasho knows what he's ****in talkin' about.

Papishasho knows what he's ****in talkin' about.

Maybe so..but it doesnt hurt to hear a females perspective..especially when she's not some silly, teenage, mindgame playing female, like so many of them are.

It should be a mutual thing..they should respect each other and treat each other better, at the same time. I dont think that a guy should kiss a girls ass for any reason, especially if she's being mean to him..hell, just let it go and move on.

thats basically the same exact thing im saying, but a lot shorter...so yeah, we agree...

Maybe so..but it doesnt hurt to hear a females perspective..especially when she's not some silly, teenage, mindgame playing female, like so many of them are.


Yeah, I wasn't disreguarding your post.

You appear to know alot too
:D

thats basically the same exact thing im saying, but a lot shorter...so yeah, we agree...

very cool...on the same page and all that then ;)

yeah, this girl i was with was alot like that....Hipocritical i mean.

She also used to not speek to me for a week if i failed to ring her...

Maybe so..but it doesnt hurt to hear a females perspective..especially when she's not some silly, teenage, mindgame playing female, like so many of them are.

^exactly! you are grown up! think back to when you were 18 to 25 were you like that and be honest? or maybe it is just the times changing.

Very ****ing simple. Women don't like *******. They don't like guys that they can walk all over. Women like bad boys. That's a sure sign of someone that's confident and in control. The guys the are nice and buy gifts and what not are seen as needy and insecure.
You see, women respect guys that are dishonest, unreliable, don't call often, often don't answer or return her calls etc..

Unfortunately, treating women like crap or ignoring them works more times than none. And contrary to popular belief, it's more effective on hotter chicks. Since hotter chicks generally have lower self esteem.

And I'm not advocating physical violence. NO! I believe anybody that commits a physical act upon anybody, male or female, should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

Another things, most women love attention, so if you ignore them what do they do???? They will fight for your attention like the little attention whore she is. :D

^exactly! you are grown up! think back to when you were 18 to 25 were you like that and be honest? or maybe it is just the times changing.

You'd be suprised in just how 'down to earth' I was as a teen. It cost me many a boyfriend too. I dont sugar coat and I'm not a fan of bull****ting, not when it comes to matters of the heart. I used to watch my friends play with guys emotions and I'd tell them that one day that kind of **** would come back to bite them. It usually did too.

Very ****ing simple. Women don't like *******. They don't like guys that they can walk all over. Women like bad boys. That's a sure sign of someone that's confident and in control. The guys the are nice and buy gifts and what not are seen as needy and insecure.
You see, women respect guys that are dishonest, unreliable, don't call often, often don't answer or return her calls etc..

Unfortunately, treating women like crap or ignoring them works more times than none. And contrary to popular belief, it's more effective on hotter chicks. Since hotter chicks generally have lower self esteem.

And I'm not advocating physical violence. NO! I believe anybody that commits a physical act upon anybody, male or female, should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

Another things, most women love attention, so if you ignore them what do they do???? They will fight for your attention like the little attention whore she is. :D


Word! you learn from experience? I sure as hell did. Most guys start out nice but they need to be burned or see other guys get burned to learn.

Very ****ing simple. Women don't like *******. They don't like guys that they can walk all over. Women like bad boys. That's a sure sign of someone that's confident and in control. The guys the are nice and buy gifts and what not are seen as needy and insecure.
You see, women respect guys that are dishonest, unreliable, don't call often, often don't answer or return her calls etc..

Unfortunately, treating women like crap or ignoring them works more times than none. And contrary to popular belief, it's more effective on hotter chicks. Since hotter chicks generally have lower self esteem.

And I'm not advocating physical violence. NO! I believe anybody that commits a physical act upon anybody, male or female, should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

Another things, most women love attention, so if you ignore them what do they do???? They will fight for your attention like the little attention whore she is. :D

Damn, youre jaded babe :eek: I repeat, we're not ALL like that, I swear!

You'd be suprised in just how 'down to earth' I was as a teen. It cost me many a boyfriend too. I dont sugar coat and I'm not a fan of bull****ting, not when it comes to matters of the heart. I used to watch my friends play with guys emotions and I'd tell them that one day that kind of **** would come back to bite them. It usually did too.

^seriously that is what I believe but it seems that women don't care for honesty, honor, faithfulness and trustworthy men anymore unless there rich or famous.

Tracylee are you married, dating or have kids? and if you have kids a son or daughter do you talk to them about what goes around comes around? You seem pretty grounded and not only that but you love boxing! wish there was more women like you! well whoever your with is one lucky fella.

Well Tracylee, maybe you're just the exception to the rule :) But in most cases, the exception proves the rule. :)
But didn't you once state that you used to go for the jerks in your day. I swear I've seen a post like that with your name on it.

^seriously that is what I believe but it seems that women don't care for honesty, honor, faithfulness and trustworthy men anymore unless there rich or famous.

Just like some men are users, bastards, liars, etc. there are women that are cheats, *****es, whores, etc. Thats the way the world works. I cant speak for every female out there....I just know that I have never let any man wipe his feet on me. Like I said, I've lost boyfriends cause of the way I think, and thats fine with me. I treat people (friends and lovers) the way I like to be treated...if they cant do the same then they can take a hike. Its as easy as that.

Well Tracylee, maybe you're just the exception to the rule :) ...
But didn't you once state that you used to go for the jerks in your day. I swear I've seen a post like that with your name on it.

when I was a teen I liked what most people would consider 'druggies'..boys with long hair, etc. and liked to party. If and when they decided they wanted to treat me like ****, I walked. They werent all like that, which the sterotype seems to suggest. If they wear black and have an earring and like rock and roll, they beat on their women and talk to them like theyre dirt. I dont buy that cause I know better. Those that do hid it for a little while anyway but once it's "out" I was gone.

Just like some men are users, bastards, liars, etc. there are women that are cheats, *****es, whores, etc. Thats the way the world works. I cant speak for every female out there....I just know that I have never let any man wipe his feet on me. Like I said, I've lost boyfriends cause of the way I think, and thats fine with me. I treat people (friends and lovers) the way I like to be treated...if they cant do the same then they can take a hike. Its as easy as that.

^but the truth is the majority of women even the so called good girls like you love the jerks or slimeballs or meatheads.

Just like some men are users, bastards, liars, etc. there are women that are cheats, *****es, whores, etc. Thats the way the world works. I cant speak for every female out there....I just know that I have never let any man wipe his feet on me. Like I said, I've lost boyfriends cause of the way I think, and thats fine with me. I treat people (friends and lovers) the way I like to be treated...if they cant do the same then they can take a hike. Its as easy as that.


^How could you lose boyfriend by the way you think? heck if a girl I was in love with thought like that I would have a huge smile on my face and rest easy haah has to be more then the way you think...were you pushy, naggy, controlling,prudish???

Tracylee are you married, dating or have kids? and if you have kids a son or daughter do you talk to them about what goes around comes around? You seem pretty grounded and not only that but you love boxing! wish there was more women like you! well whoever your with is one lucky fella.

I'm single (love it) and was married once and have a daughter thats about to turn 12. I've taught her (so far) to not lie, to not be mean or hurtful, and to not play games. I told her that the worse kind of girl is the type that likes to pit two boys against each other and see them fight over her. that the girl needs her ass kicked instead. And to not lead a boy on..if she likes him, fine. If not, dont string him along.
Lol, I'm trying anyway! :D

^How could you lose boyfriend by the way you think? heck if a girl I was in love with thought like that I would have a huge smile on my face and rest easy haah has to be more then the way you think...were you pushy, naggy, controlling,prudish???

No, just dont like being controlled, and alot of guys like to do that. I dont like having to explain myself, and where I've been and with who, etc. If I've not cheated or done anythign to lose their trust, then theres no reason for me to have to do all that...and I dont do it to them. See, the girls that like 'bad boys' and like them to treat them bad arent gonna say anything to them about that treatment..I'm not like that. I'm very opionated, very vocal and have a backbone. There are plenty of qualities about me "not to like"..trust me! But a nag or pushy?? NO, not me

I'm single (love it) and was married once and have a daughter thats about to turn 12. I've taught her (so far) to not lie, to not be mean or hurtful, and to not play games. I told her that the worse kind of girl is the type that likes to pit two boys against each other and see them fight over her. that the girl needs her ass kicked instead. And to not lead a boy on..if she likes him, fine. If not, dont string him along.
Lol, I'm trying anyway! :D




hahah sorry I sound nosey just very interested since your one of first girls to ever share a fair mentality and concious.

No, just dont like being controlled, and alot of guys like to do that. I dont like having to explain myself, and where I've been and with who, etc. If I've not cheated or done anythign to lose their trust, then theres no reason for me to have to do all that...and I dont do it to them. See, the girls that like 'bad boys' and like them to treat them bad arent gonna say anything to them about that treatment..I'm not like that. I'm very opionated, very vocal and have a backbone. There are plenty of qualities about me "not to like"..trust me! But a nag or pushy?? NO, not me


Well what does a Lady like you look for in a Guy, and have your views changed since you were younger? and if you dont like the so called bad boys what is your type of guy?

Well what does a Lady like you look for in a Guy, and have your views changed since you were younger? and if you dont like the so called bad boys what is your type of guy?

I'll always have a thing for the guys with long hair...cant help it. Actually, I really dont date at all. I spend all my time with my kid and thats the truth. I dont much care for dating, and really dont miss it (so far).

when I was a teen I liked what most people would consider 'druggies'..boys with long hair, etc. and liked to party. If and when they decided they wanted to treat me like ****, I walked. They werent all like that, which the sterotype seems to suggest. If they wear black and have an earring and like rock and roll, they beat on their women and talk to them like theyre dirt. I dont buy that cause I know better. Those that do hid it for a little while anyway but once it's "out" I was gone.
It's good that you walked when or if they attempted to hit you. But we are all still animals, and the female species is attracted to that kind of man. It's not a choice, it's something females are programed with since birth. And those guys that you say weren't *******s at first.... C'mon, they were always *******s.

Tracylee, let me ask you a question if you don't mind. I don't want to get into your personal buisness, but where if the father of your daughter? If you divorced him or separated him, why did you choose him in the first place?

It's good that you walked when or if they attempted to hit you. But we are all still animals, and the female species is attracted to that kind of man. It's not a choice, it's something females are programed with since birth. And those guys that you say weren't *******s at first.... C'mon, they were always *******s.

Tracylee, let me ask you a question if you don't mind. I don't want to get into your personal buisness, but where if the father of your daughter? If you divorced him or separated him, why did you choose him in the first place?

I chose him cause I wanted desperately to have a kid, and he is the most decent and kind man I've ever known. I married him cause it was similar to a "shotgun" wedding (on his side) and was told over and over that it was the right thing to do. All I wanted was a child, and told him that when we were dating (matter of fact, he dumped me when I told him that I really, REALLY wanted a kid, and then called me back a week later). I finally divorced him cause I was not in love with him...never had been. I truly thought he could and would find someone that loved him with all their heart, and I still think that. He wont find her being married to me. We are at this time best of friends, but get along much better now that we no longer live together. I wasnt "feeling" it and he knew it and we were both miserable...thats no atmosphere to raise a kid in. Thats as brutally honest as I can be about it. We do great at 'friends', but not so hot as a couple. which is a good thing for our child cause she loves us both.

No, just dont like being controlled, and alot of guys like to do that. I dont like having to explain myself, and where I've been and with who, etc. If I've not cheated or done anythign to lose their trust, then theres no reason for me to have to do all that...and I dont do it to them. See, the girls that like 'bad boys' and like them to treat them bad arent gonna say anything to them about that treatment..I'm not like that. I'm very opionated, very vocal and have a backbone. There are plenty of qualities about me "not to like"..trust me! But a nag or pushy?? NO, not me
I'll be honest with you guys. I used to be what you would call a "nice guy", but I figured out thats not the way to get ahead in life. I wouldn't say I'm an ******* or jerk. I'm just in control now, not controlling. There's a difference between in being in control and being controlling, the same as the differences in being dominant and being domineering. Girls like somebody that's in control. I think Tracylee experienced guys who were more controlling and domineering

I chose him cause I wanted desperately to have a kid, and he is the most decent and kind man I've ever known. I married him cause it was similar to a "shotgun" wedding (on his side) and was told over and over that it was the right thing to do. All I wanted was a child, and told him that when we were dating (matter of fact, he dumped me when I told him that I really, REALLY wanted a kid, and then called me back a week later). I finally divorced him cause I was not in love with him...never had been. I truly thought he could and would find someone that loved him with all their heart, and I still think that. He wont find her being married to me. We are at this time best of friends, but get along much better now that we no longer live together. I wasnt "feeling" it and he knew it and we were both miserable...thats no atmosphere to raise a kid in. Thats as brutally honest as I can be about it. We do great at 'friends', but not so hot as a couple. which is a good thing for our child cause she loves us both.


^wow it is true if its too good to be true it aint that great! I think that is kinda selfish right there! it takes two to raise a child I really am sick of that stuff when women think they can do everything. But your ex was a sucker or desperate that is just sad you just WANTED A KID??? hahaha wow I guess all your philosophy went down the drain.

^wow it is true if its too good to be true it aint that great! I think that is kinda selfish right there! it takes two to raise a child I really am sick of that stuff when women think they can do everything. But your ex was a sucker or desperate that is just sad you just WANTED A KID??? hahaha wow I guess all your philosophy went down the drain.

what are you talking about? We are both raising her. We live close to each other, and we have equal custody of her. If he's off work and wants to spend the day/night with her, thats fine with both of us. I've never, ever kept her from him and never will. That would hurt her worse than anyone.
All 3 of us are happy with the way this works..why does it bother you so? We go places together and everythign...dont know why your judging me cause I wanted a kid and didnt try and trick him into getting me pregnant, without his knowledge. He was all for it, so youve got no reason to judge me. I didnt fall madly in love..does that make me bad? So youre saying I should have stayed married to him...makign him miserable and keeping him from ever meeting somebody that would love him the way he deserves?

I chose him cause I wanted desperately to have a kid, and he is the most decent and kind man I've ever known. I married him cause it was similar to a "shotgun" wedding (on his side) and was told over and over that it was the right thing to do. All I wanted was a child, and told him that when we were dating (matter of fact, he dumped me when I told him that I really, REALLY wanted a kid, and then called me back a week later). I finally divorced him cause I was not in love with him...never had been. I truly thought he could and would find someone that loved him with all their heart, and I still think that. He wont find her being married to me. We are at this time best of friends, but get along much better now that we no longer live together. I wasnt "feeling" it and he knew it and we were both miserable...thats no atmosphere to raise a kid in. Thats as brutally honest as I can be about it. We do great at 'friends', but not so hot as a couple. which is a good thing for our child cause she loves us both.\\


Hey nice morals you have there TracyLee!! Have a kid and get knocked up by somebody you dont love and never had any intention of loving.. What a wonderful example you will be for your daughter!

The thing about women? Many are Beautiful in one way or another, many are evil. The one I'm trying to get to know better is an amazing woman. Just thought I'd **** my 2 cents in here. Whats up Tracy!

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Hey nice morals you have there TracyLee!! Have a kid and get knocked up by somebody you dont love and never had any intention of loving.. What a wonderful example you will be for your daughter!

You dont know what youre talking about now do you? I do love him..am I in love with him? No. Jesus, you'd think I tricked him into getting me pregnant so I could force him into marrying me and then proceeded to make him life a living hell. I told him that I wanted a kid..he didnt. He dumped me and I said I totally understand. A week later he said that he had thought about it and wanted to do this..period. Marriages end all the time..sad but true, how does that make me a bad example for my kid? Do you honestly think I'm gonna tell her that was the way it was?

The thing about women? Many are Beautiful in one way or another, many are evil. The one I'm trying to get to know better is an amazing woman. Just thought I'd **** my 2 cents in here. Whats up Tracy!

No much..just needlessly defending my poor "morals"..what a trip. All the girls I've known that intentionally got knocked up just to try and hold on to a man and I was totally honest with mine, and now these kids are judging me?? Wtf? :eek:

No much..just needlessly defending my poor "morals"..what a trip. All the girls I've known that intentionally got knocked up just to try and hold on to a man and I was totally honest with mine, and now these kids are judging me?? Wtf? :eek:

Dont even worry about it. Sometimes being a morally correct person almost feels like a burden. Because you look at those people that just breeze through life and dont give a **** who they hurt to get what they want and what not, and sometimes you wish you could do things that carelessly because it would be easier. But we are moral people, so I say this: **** the haters.

No much..just needlessly defending my poor "morals"..what a trip. All the girls I've known that intentionally got knocked up just to try and hold on to a man and I was totally honest with mine, and now these kids are judging me?? Wtf? :eek:


my friend is having a keep a ***** baby poor girl stupid stupid *****..

I'll be honest with you guys. I used to be what you would call a "nice guy", but I figured out thats not the way to get ahead in life. I wouldn't say I'm an ******* or jerk. I'm just in control now, not controlling. There's a difference between in being in control and being controlling, the same as the difference in being dominant and being domineering. Girls like somebody that's in control. I think Tracylee experienced guys who were more controlling and domineering
I think that pretty much sums it up.

my friend is having a keep a ***** baby poor girl stupid stupid *****..

what do you mean? Your friend is raising somebody else's kid or something?

what do you mean? Your friend is raising somebody else's kid or something?

no she found out she was pregnant last week and she told her boyfriend of 1 1/2 years and he dumped her and changed his #, but she is still gonna have it and hope he comes back, thats a KEEP A ***** BABY.

no she found out she was pregnant last week and she told her boyfriend of 1 1/2 years and he dumped her and changed his #, but she is still gonna have it and hope he comes back, thats a KEEP A ***** BABY.

Thats damn tragic :( I dont see how anybody can walk out on their kid..they little critters are amazing and are the bright spot in our world. I pity the fool that doesnt know that!

yeah well stupid girls like that get stuck on welfare and not loving there baby, i think she should terminate it

yeah well stupid girls like that get stuck on welfare and not loving there baby, i think she should terminate it

do you think he may 'grow up' and come around to the idea of being a daddy? If she's not going to love it then she needs to give it up for adoption to someone that will. Babies are the innocent and dont ask to be born. What a sad (and common)story. I think some people got the wrong idea about what I said...my ex was all for this, and I married him cause I did love him, and hoped that one day I'd fall IN love with him. There is a difference..I dont care what anybody says about that. My kid is a very happy, well adjusted girl, who spends as much time with both her parents as she wants.

yeah right he has a 5 year old son he ditched when he met my friend and she just found out from his mom he has 3 other babies, that fool dont give a ****, if i were her id have an abortion.

do you think he may 'grow up' and come around to the idea of being a daddy? If she's not going to love it then she needs to give it up for adoption to someone that will. Babies are the innocent and dont ask to be born. What a sad (and common)story. I think some people got the wrong idea about what I said...my ex was all for this, and I married him cause I did love him, and hoped that one day I'd fall IN love with him. There is a difference..I dont care what anybody says about that. My kid is a very happy, well adjusted girl, who spends as much time with both her parents as she wants.

How do you "Hope to fall in love with someone one day".. This **** is depressing.. I love children more than anything in the world.. It hurts me so much to see kids brought into the world like this.. CHILDREN NEED TWO ****ING PARENTS IN CONVENTIONAL ROLES.. THEY NEED IT.. There are some things women can give to a child, and there are some things only a man can give to a child.. Thats why I steer clear of women who come from fuc*ed up families, they are the ones that turn out to be strippers.. And the absolute most important inter-family relationship is to witness the relationship between a daughter and her father.. From my years of dating, it's the women who have good relationships with their fathers who turn out to have the most self esteem and self worth..

yeah right he has a 5 year old son he ditched when he met my friend and she just found out from his mom he has 3 other babies, that fool dont give a ****, if i were her id have an abortion.


Im willing to bet that your friend herself came from a fuc*ed up family..am I right.. I wish her and the baby well but I wish a loving home for that child or else the cycle will continue

i love my friend with all my heart but she wasnt raised in no brady bunch type family, why were you?

i love my friend with all my heart but she wasnt raised in no brady bunch type family, why were you?


Its obvious she wasnt raised well because she wouldnt be attracted to dirtbags if she was.. Yes I was raised well.. I was shown love, yet at the same time was shown a belt across my ass when I acted up... Good combo

Its obvious she wasnt raised well because she wouldnt be attracted to dirtbags if she was.. Yes I was raised well.. I was shown love, yet at the same time was shown a belt across my ass when I acted up... Good combo
It doesn't matter how she was raised. The attraction to dirtbags is always there.

Thats damn tragic :( I dont see how anybody can walk out on their kid..they little critters are amazing and are the bright spot in our world. I pity the fool that doesnt know that!



beautiful, if u want another child someday, just let me know. i'll happily offer my services :luvbed:

what are you talking about? We are both raising her. We live close to each other, and we have equal custody of her. If he's off work and wants to spend the day/night with her, thats fine with both of us. I've never, ever kept her from him and never will. That would hurt her worse than anyone.
All 3 of us are happy with the way this works..why does it bother you so? We go places together and everythign...dont know why your judging me cause I wanted a kid and didnt try and trick him into getting me pregnant, without his knowledge. He was all for it, so youve got no reason to judge me. I didnt fall madly in love..does that make me bad? So youre saying I should have stayed married to him...makign him miserable and keeping him from ever meeting somebody that would love him the way he deserves?

^no it seemed like you were never in love with the guy you said you just wanted a kid! so that kid has to grow up going back and forth between mom and dad, instead of being a product of love? not being mean but I am just very honest like you and dont sugar coat things.

Well why not just go to a sperm bank?

Ok I don't wanna come across as a woman hater because I love women to death. Alright but I know some of you guys noticed this about chics...They claim up and down they "want a nice guy"...but when you become that nice guy your ass gets dumped. This has happened to me on 3 occasions, I noticed that women I have dated are more attracted to me when I am a jerk. I even notice this about my girlfriend, when I am being nice she will say or do things to rile me up. I am pretty sure women only say they want a nice guy...but in reality they lust after the jerk or the "bad boy". A good argument for this is OJ Simpson look at how that dude still gets major putnany...after all that horrible stuff he got accused of. If chics really like nice guys a dude like that would be ostracized. Let me know if I'm right or wrong.




I must also add that this only seems to be true of American chics...because non-American chics seem to have a different set of values. And so it seems...so far.

You can be a nice guy, and girls you get with will love you to death. Maybe when u are being nice ur letting them wear the pants which is a completely different thing than being nice. I've always been a nice guy and the girls i've dated i been the one to break the relationship. Im sure one day it will happen the other way, but so far i dont see what u are saying.

yeah right he has a 5 year old son he ditched when he met my friend and she just found out from his mom he has 3 other babies, that fool dont give a ****, if i were her id have an abortion.

^damn I hate punks like that girls and guys alike they need to start taking responsiblity sometimes to them kids are just toys but when your kid getts to be a teenager then the true parenting comes in, these fools should know a child is your blood and your life it is forever.

If I were that chick I would check into a clinic or one of those Adopt a child places, I dont know if you heard of them but young girls and women who are pregnant but dont wanna keep the child meet with a family who will adopt the baby right when its born.

I wont suggest the girl to kill that baby with an abortion it will be on her head forever that she killed a kid the guilt haunts, she already seems emotionally unstable.

i love my friend with all my heart but she wasnt raised in no brady bunch type family, why were you?

^word I was not raised in no brad bunch type family, actually had alot of yelling,fighting and all that dysfunctional crap but that is what makes me stronger to not make that same mistake with my child. We all have to use our brains and think of how it hurt us when we were kids I feel to many people are not responsible we should do like China and have a limit on kids, to many unwanted abused kids with crackhead moms running around to me that is the biggest tragedy.

It doesn't matter how she was raised. The attraction to dirtbags is always there.


LMAO hahahaah

no she found out she was pregnant last week and she told her boyfriend of 1 1/2 years and he dumped her and changed his #, but she is still gonna have it and hope he comes back, thats a KEEP A ***** BABY.


You'd want her to abort the baby? She should at least give the poor child up for adoption if she cant handle it.

well thats your opinion, me myself wouldnt carry a baby for 9 months then give it away, i would for sure abort the baby, **** the guilt i'll live you cant feel gult about something you wernt attached to, but thats just me.

well thats your opinion, me myself wouldnt carry a baby for 9 months then give it away, i would for sure abort the baby, **** the guilt i'll live you cant feel gult about something you wernt attached to, but thats just me.



Aborting an unborn fetus is the most SELFISH act a woman can commit. It truly shows how IRRESPONSIBLE a woman can be first, for getting herself in the position to get knock-up second, for taking the cowardly way out and not owning up the her RESPONSIBILITY. Women should never use abortion as means of birth control.

never said i did it, dont care what ya got to say i stand by what i said and so sorry if you dont like it.

never said i did it, dont care what ya got to say i stand by what i said and so sorry if you dont like it.



That's between you and God.

:biggthump sure buddy

never said i did it, dont care what ya got to say i stand by what i said and so sorry if you dont like it.

Damn girl drop that pride! hahaha. You know you aint that heartless to just kill a baby who drilled that in yo head.

if i knew i wasnt stabble enough to have another baby then yes i would NO DOUBT, it has nothing to do with my pride im just not up for taking a pregnancy full term then handing over a baby, so whats left? abortion or stuggle for god knows how long, i have lost a baby and gave birth to 2, i love my kids with all my heart and dont know where id be without them but you gotta do what you gotta do ya no what i mean

You see being a so called "loser" does have some benifits after all......it means Tucker don't have no woman problems, (no men problems either before you say it). :mad: And that........now thats cool! ;) So says the greatest champion of all time........TONY TNT TUCKER!!! And if you ain't down with that then you can Suckit! :D
Later brother brologs.

You see being a so called "loser" does have some benifits after all......it means Tucker don't have no woman problems, (no men problems either before you say it). :mad: And that........now thats cool! ;) So says the greatest champion of all time........TONY TNT TUCKER!!! And if you ain't down with that then you can Suckit! :D
Later brother brologs.

Can I ask why you don't like girls? just out of curiosity..

if i knew i wasnt stabble enough to have another baby then yes i would NO DOUBT, it has nothing to do with my pride im just not up for taking a pregnancy full term then handing over a baby, so whats left? abortion or stuggle for god knows how long, i have lost a baby and gave birth to 2, i love my kids with all my heart and dont know where id be without them but you gotta do what you gotta do ya no what i mean


Well you heard of birth control?

How do you "Hope to fall in love with someone one day".. This **** is depressing.. I love children more than anything in the world.. It hurts me so much to see kids brought into the world like this.. CHILDREN NEED TWO ****ING PARENTS IN CONVENTIONAL ROLES.. THEY NEED IT.. There are some things women can give to a child, and there are some things only a man can give to a child.. Thats why I steer clear of women who come from fuc*ed up families, they are the ones that turn out to be strippers.. And the absolute most important inter-family relationship is to witness the relationship between a daughter and her father.. From my years of dating, it's the women who have good relationships with their fathers who turn out to have the most self esteem and self worth..

Youre judging me and making all these assumptions, while knowing nothing about me or my life, etc. Me and my ex live next door to each other, so were BOTH raising her. We BOTH see her every day, at any time of the day or week. We have a very close relationship and every decision we make is with our daughter in mind. She spends just as much time with him as she does with me. Give a person a chance...dont judge them and assume you know it all before getting the whole story.
So you know, I talked to him last night (he came out and ate dinner with us after getting in from work) and very nonchantly asked him if he had any regrets...much to my suprise he did have one. He regrets not having 2 children! As much joy and amazment that our daughter brings into his life on a daily basis, he said he could only imagine the wonder of that being two fold. The "wonder"..his exact words. Imagine that
Youre talking about a kid that has NO issues..keeps no big secrets from us, has been an honor roll student since 1st grade, competes in several different competitions at school (spelling B, chess club, etcl) and couldnt be happier. In other words, you dont know what youre talking about. But youre all of a sudden the judge of me huh?

Dont even worry about it. Sometimes being a morally correct person almost feels like a burden. Because you look at those people that just breeze through life and dont give a **** who they hurt to get what they want and what not, and sometimes you wish you could do things that carelessly because it would be easier. But we are moral people, so I say this: **** the haters.

sorry I missed this yesterday :o THANK YOU for not judging me and making any abrupt, unfair assumptions about me and my life. I respect the hell out of that! ;)

^no it seemed like you were never in love with the guy you said you just wanted a kid! so that kid has to grow up going back and forth between mom and dad, instead of being a product of love? not being mean but I am just very honest like you and dont sugar coat things.

Well why not just go to a sperm bank?

you couldnt be more clueless

you couldnt be more clueless

^its what you said sweetheart! well, anyway no matter how you slice a child needs two parents it takes two to have a kid. Not talking about you since you said your both raising her... but you really only care of your own feelings, you need to start picturing the possiblities of what could happen, how do you know this is not gonna affect a kid in the future? Studies have shown children who come from broken homes, were their is not father or mother together suffer the most and see relationships in a different aspect. Let me tell you this you may think your child is smiling fine and dandy but you don't know what is in their mind the only time you will trully know you done a good job raising them is when they get to the age of consent 18 to 21. Again I am not downing you in any way shape or form.

sorry I missed this yesterday :o THANK YOU for not judging me and making any abrupt, unfair assumptions about me and my life. I respect the hell out of that! ;)


No one is judging you..we are just going off what you said and you said a whole lot tracy. Well all that matters is that you teach your kid well and raise her right,Well I would tell my daughter to fall in LOVE and don't bring a child in this world just cause you want one that would be very selfish.

^its what you said sweetheart! well, anyway no matter how you slice a child needs two parents it takes two to have a kid. Not talking about you since you said your both raising her... but you really only care of your own feelings, you need to start picturing the possiblities of what could happen, how do you know this is not gonna affect a kid in the future? Studies have shown children who come from broken homes, were their is not father or mother together suffer the most and see relationships in a different aspect. Let me tell you this you may think your child is smiling fine and dandy but you don't know what is in their mind the only time you will trully know you done a good job raising them is when they get to the age of consent 18 to 21. Again I am not downing you in any way shape or form.

I see, it's much better to raise your children in a loveless, hostile enviroment than to shower total, unconditional love on her for 24 hr's a day. Me and her father have alot of respect for each other and she learns from that...we have deep, deep feeling for each other and she learns from that too. Dont try and tell me I dont know what my kid feels and thinks cause she and I have way too many heart to heart discussions every single day for me to not know.
And I'm the first to ever have a marriage fail, is that it?? What planet do you come from?
Selfish? Oh yes, it's so very selfish of me to bring a child into the world to show her and teach her the wonder of it all, and to dedicate my every thought and move to her and her well being.

No one is judging you..we are just going off what you said and you said a whole lot tracy. Well all that matters is that you teach your kid well and raise her right,Well I would tell my daughter to fall in LOVE and don't bring a child in this world just cause you want one that would be very selfish.


Judging is exactly what youre doing....thanks for the advice, but mothering is the one damn thing I've got down pat, and happen to be very good at. I'll raise her the way I think she should be raised, and not the way YOU think I should. I will even respect you enough to NOT tell you how to raise yours..hows that?

How did this thread become the "Question Tracylee's parental skills" thread?

Judging is exactly what youre doing....thanks for the advice, but mothering is the one damn thing I've got down pat, and happen to be very good at. I'll raise her the way I think she should be raised, and not the way YOU think I should. I will even respect you enough to NOT tell you how to raise yours..hows that?

no need to get hostile. I'm just saying you see highschools and to many young sluts running around, to many spoild teens and girls some of them come from families that are together some of them dont, The one thing they all dont have is communication with their child and their is another thing Their folks don't love each other. I am glad you talk to your kid and teach her right. Again I am not judging you sweetheart! :cool:

How did this thread become the "Question Tracylee's parental skills" thread?

I wondered the same thing...this bugged me quite a while last night and all I can guess is it's so very easy to sit back and judge others while not looking at ones self. Do either of these oh so 'wise' guys have any kids I wonder??

I can kind of see their points of view, though they are perhaps aiming them at the wrong person.


They should be aimed at my mother instead really. :)

no need to get hostile. I'm just saying you see highschools and to many young sluts running around, to many spoild teens and girls some of them come from families that are together some of them dont, The one thing they all dont have is communication with their child and their is another thing Their folks don't love each other. I am glad you talk to your kid and teach her right. Again I am not judging you sweetheart! :cool:

Look, I can (and have) taken insult after insult, regarless of what the subject matter, and thats not a problem....whatever. If the mods dont care then why should I? However, nothing pisses me more than to be judged, tried and convicted of being a bad mother. My mother beat the hell out of me all my life, and when that wasnt what she was in the mood for, the emotional and psych. abuse kicked in. So I of all people know what a child needs to grow and develop mentally, physically and every other way. I dont spank my child..we TALK. We have this unbelievable communication and she knows in her SOUL there is NOTHING she cant come to me to talk about. No matter how bad...we, as her parents, are her shelter, comfort and her foundation. We provide everything and then some and she is quite spoiled.
If I've done nothing right in all my time, being a good mother is what I am all about...and it's easy as pie when you adore you child the way I do. So a great deal of what you said yesterday and today were totally untrue and out of line.

Look, I can (and have) taken insult after insult, regarless of what the subject matter, and thats not a problem....whatever. If the mods dont care then why should I? However, nothing pisses me more than to be judged, tried and convicted of being a bad mother. My mother beat the hell out of me all my life, and when that wasnt what she was in the mood for, the emotional and psych. abuse kicked in. So I of all people know what a child needs to grow and develop mentally, physically and every other way. I dont spank my child..we TALK. We have this unbelievable communication and she knows in her SOUL there is NOTHING she cant come to me to talk about. No matter how bad...we, as her parents, are her shelter, comfort and her foundation. We provide everything and then some and she is quite spoiled.
If I've done nothing right in all my time, being a good mother is what I am all about...and it's easy as pie when you adore you child the way I do. So a great deal of what you said yesterday and today were totally untrue and out of line.


^your very defensive but You ever see a shrink? you said you were abused did your father hurt you, yell at you? did you have a dad around? you still carrry apart of your mom around wheather you like it or not that is probally why your relationships dont work look at yourself and not men, what does all your relationship have in common??? YOU TRACY LEE you think about it.

^your very defensive but You ever see a shrink? you said you were abused did your father hurt you, yell at you? did you have a dad around? you still carrry apart of your mom around wheather you like it or not that is probally why your relationships dont work look at yourself and not men, what does all your relationship have in common??? YOU TRACY LEE you think about it.

Christ man, why don't you lay off? Seriously, I don't see what you're getting out of this.

^your very defensive but You ever see a shrink? you said you were abused did your father hurt you, yell at you? did you have a dad around? you still carrry apart of your mom around wheather you like it or not that is probally why your relationships dont work look at yourself and not men, what does all your relationship have in common??? YOU TRACY LEE you think about it.

Lol, I already said there were plenty of things about me to not like, remember? No, my dad didnt abuse me..he was a great man. I dont know what youre problem is, but anybody will get defensive when somebody else tries to tell them how to raise their kid. I dont need a shrink, but I'm still wondering about you.
How many kids do you have anyway?

Christ man, why don't you lay off? Seriously, I don't see what you're getting out of this.

Lol, thats okay..while he struggles with my simple question of how many kids he has, I'm out of here...to go do what bad moms do :rolleyes: Besides, when he starts to "Dr.Phil" me and tell me what I do and do not need, the conversations over. My mistake for bothering to explain myself to anybody anyway.

Can I ask why you don't like girls? just out of curiosity..No, the other way around, girls don't like Tucker. A psychologist once told me that I did'nt like women though.....but what does she know, after all shes just a stupid ***** anyway! :D That was a joke, you can laugh now. Unfortunatly TNT's mum and sister are a couple of no goods though........interesting. :confused:
Later brother brologs.

No, the other way around, girls don't like Tucker. A psychologist once told me that I did'nt like women though.....but what does she know, after all shes just a stupid ***** anyway! :D That was a joke, you can laugh now. Unfortunatly TNT's mum and sister are a couple of no goods though........interesting. :confused:
Later brother brologs.

Why dont girls like you? just out of curiosity, tell me if you dont want me to ask. Later brother Brologs.

Why dont girls like you? just out of curiosity, tell me if you dont want me to ask. Later brother Brologs.

Maybe cause he ends every pickup line by saying that :D .

Why dont girls like you? just out of curiosity, tell me if you dont want me to ask. Later brother Brologs.TNT doesn't want a girlfriend anyway, I've got enough problems as it is. :D
Later brother brologs.

Well you heard of birth control?


you think it always works???lol

you think it always works???lol

good point agony..theyre only like 99.7% anyway, arent they?
One of my cousins had 2 'birth control' babies, and they cant be sued or anything cause they dont hide the fact that their not foolproof :confused:

my daughter was a birth control baby and another friend of mine had twins while on the depo shot and didnt find out till she was 7 months pregnant, another friend of mine got pregnant while using the depo 3 times, birth control dont work. lol

my daughter was a birth control baby and another friend of mine had twins while on the depo shot and didnt find out till she was 7 months pregnant, another friend of mine got pregnant while using the depo 3 times, birth control dont work. lol



You have some sexually active friends! Where the hell were all these groups of friends when I was young.

my daughter was a birth control baby and another friend of mine had twins while on the depo shot and didnt find out till she was 7 months pregnant, another friend of mine got pregnant while using the depo 3 times, birth control dont work. lol

damn, thats scary :eek:

If a girl says she's on birth control, I never trust her, I still wear a condom. The pill is like 99% effective, yet all of these "accidental" births are becoming more common and common these days. There's no mystery to it really. A condom is pretty much 100% effective. Most of the times when they fail if because they are not put on properly.

you think it always works???lol

If you actually take it and u use the pull out method.

If a girl says she's on birth control, I never trust her, I still wear a condom. The pill is like 99% effective, yet all of these "accidental" births are becoming more common and common these days. There's no mystery to it really. A condom is pretty much 100% effective. Most of the times when they fail if because they are not put on properly.


^ya 99 percent effective the 1 percent is the woman all she needs to do is not lie and take the pill during the specified time so it can be effective.

If a girl says she's on birth control, I never trust her, I still wear a condom. The pill is like 99% effective, yet all of these "accidental" births are becoming more common and common these days. There's no mystery to it really. A condom is pretty much 100% effective. Most of the times when they fail if because they are not put on properly.^ya 99 percent effective the 1 percent is the woman all she needs to do is not lie and take the pill during the specified time so it can be effective.And don't forget about girls that try to sabbatoge condoms... Or the ones that dig in the trash and attempt to instert a used condom in her cooch. If you know a girl that is capable to do something like that, do that good ol' Tabasco sauce in the condom trick. When she excuses herself to the bathroom and you hear a scream from a mile away. You know what just happened. She'll feel the burn, and you'll hear the scream from a mile away.

And don't forget about girls that try to sabbatoge condoms... Or the ones that dig in the trash and attempt to instert a used condom in her cooch. If you know a girl that is capable to do something like that, do that good ol' Tabasco sauce in the condom trick. When she excuses herself to the bathroom and you hear a scream from a mile away. You know what just happened. She'll feel the burn, and you'll hear the scream from a mile away.

Lol, those types are only out to GET pregnant! Run like hell, I say!

Maybe a father of three should weigh in on the raising kids issue. If a child has two good parents raising them, it would be easier, but not neccisarily better. Love,telling and showing them you love them on a daily basis works well. Also comunication is paramount. If Tracy does all of these things(i'm sure she does) that is just fine. To sterotype family situations based on statistics is not right.

Maybe a father of three should weigh in on the raising kids issue. If a child has two good parents raising them, it would be easier, but not neccisarily better. Love,telling and showing them you love them on a daily basis works well. Also comunication is paramount. If Tracy does all of these things(i'm sure she does) that is just fine. To sterotype family situations based on statistics is not right.

Many thanks Marvdave ;)

Many thanks Marvdave ;)


of course we are two parents and my kids are screwed up.... :D

If a girl says she's on birth control, I never trust her, I still wear a condom. The pill is like 99% effective, yet all of these "accidental" births are becoming more common and common these days. There's no mystery to it really. A condom is pretty much 100% effective. Most of the times when they fail if because they are not put on properly.


same thing i heard about the pill. If it dont work its because the person that was taking it didnt do it right, or purposely didnt.

And don't forget about girls that try to sabbatoge condoms... Or the ones that dig in the trash and attempt to instert a used condom in her cooch. If you know a girl that is capable to do something like that, do that good ol' Tabasco sauce in the condom trick. When she excuses herself to the bathroom and you hear a scream from a mile away. You know what just happened. She'll feel the burn, and you'll hear the scream from a mile away.


damn what kinda girls do you no?

If you actually take it and u use the pull out method.


since you think you no what your talking about tell me how a girl doesnt take a 3 months shot right? a girl gets it every 3 months and it is injected in the hip or arm, so tell me how dont you take that right?

If a girl says she's on birth control, I never trust her, I still wear a condom. The pill is like 99% effective, yet all of these "accidental" births are becoming more common and common these days. There's no mystery to it really. A condom is pretty much 100% effective. Most of the times when they fail if because they are not put on properly.
wear a condom then withdraw :p

my daughter was a birth control baby and another friend of mine had twins while on the depo shot and didnt find out till she was 7 months pregnant, another friend of mine got pregnant while using the depo 3 times, birth control dont work. lol
abstinence does :D

since you think you no what your talking about tell me how a girl doesnt take a 3 months shot right? a girl gets it every 3 months and it is injected in the hip or arm, so tell me how dont you take that right?

^ maybe you should read the 2nd part: dont let the guy cum in you!

^ maybe you should read the 2nd part: dont let the guy cum in you!
how about practicing the rhythm method?

My mom says the pill works, the IUD doesnt.

my friends mom has had the IUD for 13 years no problem, the pill old school pill works great, its the new pills that arnt all that good.

my friends mom has had the IUD for 13 years no problem, the pill old school pill works great, its the new pills that arnt all that good.

^hahah geez why didnt you explain it clear in the first place! Be specific next time so arguments dont spark.

it's fukin unfortunate man but it's true...count your self lucky for learning it early as young as you are. some dudes don't get a clue until they are into there 30's or even older. i've seen dudes get played by a ***** while in their 40's. like this one 44 year old dude i work with...that dude is gettin played like a ***** constantly because he don't know the game...he thinks the nice guy approach is the only way. that's why his ass is old and alone constantly getting dumped. BUT there are some women who dont like jerks...the trick is to find out which is which...like I said count yourself lucky that you found this out at a young age.

i know this dude thats the same way, hes about 20 yrs old. Works at his dads auto -body shop, spends every dime of his money on 8ths of high grade weed (50 bucks around here, about) and **** for his girlfriend. what's funny is she doesn't even see him except on the weekends. I was like man, why doesnt she see you during the week and he goes, "man her parents trip sometimes"..lol..i was like shes totally playing this poor bastard, probably has another boyfriend or etc. it proves chris rocks theory right about *****

^hahah geez why didnt you explain it clear in the first place! Be specific next time so arguments dont spark.

there was no argument it was just a fun conversation ;)

damn what kinda girls do you no?
Some broads from Reseda, San Fernando Valley :D :cool:

Some broads from Reseda, San Fernando Valley :D :cool:

you wish :mad:

Some broads from Reseda, San Fernando Valley :D :cool:


^hahahahaha were they also dodger fans?

im not a dodgers fan ass wipe SHUT YOUR FACE
so hahaha thats ****

im not a dodgers fan ass wipe SHUT YOUR FACE
so hahaha thats ****

^damn I like them fiesty! bring on baby! haaha

i really dont like you so dont talk to me.

of course we are two parents and my kids are screwed up.... :D

hahahaha...somehow I doubt that! :D

^ maybe you should read the 2nd part: dont let the guy cum in you!

thats the least dependable method know to man. How can you not know, being a guy and all, that youre losing small amounts of sperm all during intercourse (unless, of course, you never had intercourse) and they even teach that in health class in 7th grade. If you rely on that method you'll be a daddy in no time..unless, like I said, your judgemental personality rules that possibility out completely

pre cum can also get a girl pregnant

pre cum can also get a girl pregnant

Exactly....any guy relying on withdrawal is just asking for parenthood. It's a scientific fact, and even most high school kids know that! :eek:

but dont tell these fools that ****, they THINK they no everything and they will TRY to tell you different.

but dont tell these fools that ****, they THINK they no everything and they will TRY to tell you different.


lol, you noticed that too huh? Unbelievable...so I take it the best thing to do is to lie to your guy from the onset, let him believe that children are the LAST thing you want and convince him that you got the ole BC taken care of and then seduce him and get knocked up!!! And then...oh yes and then, threaten him with lawsuits and the vengence of God if he doesnt agree to marry you, and spend the rest of your life making more babies to futher tie him to you and make his life a living hell. Yep..thats definately the way to go!!! :rolleyes: And all that coming from somebody that refuses to tell how many kids he has!!

Haha, I still notice the Boys vs Girls scenario...even here.


I'm neutral however :)

Haha, I still notice the Boys vs Girls scenario...even here.


I'm neutral however :)

Does that mean you're a eunuch?

mebbe? :confused:

Women. Can't live with em, can't have heterosexual sex without em.

Does that mean you're a eunuch?

lol, good one :D

lol, good one :D

I'm not sure if he got it, though...it is sort of a weird word.

I'm not sure if he got it, though...it is sort of a weird word.

hahahahaha...I got it, and thought it was perfect for the situation! (and not seeing it coming made it even funnier :D )

i really dont like you so dont talk to me.

^you think I care? girls like you just want my attention.

Exactly....any guy relying on withdrawal is just asking for parenthood. It's a scientific fact, and even most high school kids know that! :eek:

withdrawing is better thatn cume inside of her like i did last friday.

damn what was i thinking?

I love how these girls think there so knowledgeable. They want everything there way and that one ignorant girl with 2 babies who will listen to a ignorant baby killer? not me. They have no reasoning.

hahahaha look at the ***** get mad because no one cares about what he has to say, oh and whos the baby killer???? and if you think your words mean anything to me your funny.

hahahaha look at the ***** get mad because no one cares about what he has to say, oh and whos the baby killer???? and if you think your words mean anything to me your funny.


^hahahah dont take it to the heart! you know your hurt dont get it twisted tryna turn it on me saying Im mad hahah naw girls like you want attention cause you got no sense.

yeah i need attention from you PLEASE GIVE ME ATTENTION!!!!! i have no clue how you look i dont like you for **** but yet im starving for your attention!!!! fool your a lop im putting you on ignore have a good day.

yeah i need attention from you PLEASE GIVE ME ATTENTION!!!!! i have no clue how you look i dont like you for **** but yet im starving for your attention!!!! fool your a lop im putting you on ignore have a good day.

relax lil momma...lol

relax lil momma...lol


im cool thats fools just a joke.

I was being a smart ass about the attention thing you no that right? :confused:

She put me on ignore! hahahah

withdrawing is better thatn cume inside of her like i did last friday.

damn what was i thinking?

Better? Marginally so. But hey, dont listen to me...check out the net if youre interested and it's all there. What you do in and with your girl is your business....just adding the info. that withdrawal does not work.

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well if a guy isn't nice to me, he can **** off. its simple.

well if a guy isn't nice to me, he can **** off. its simple.

I agree, if the guy is not nice to me I will punch him in a mouth.