well after Rocky retired on April 27, 1956 he left the Heavyweight Title vacant, then up came a contender Floyd Patterson who beat Archie Moore for the vacant title, I was wondering what if Rocky hadn't retired and Patterson challenged Marciano for the title what do you think the out come may be?

I had read some where that it was believed that Patterson was ducking Marciano, hoping he would retire, personally that doesn't make sense because even though i like Rocky if a Champ is aging it seems like that would be when someone would want to challenge him, but then again he was only (rocky) 31 years old
--Not saying thats true just throwing it out there,

so who do you think would win
Rocky Marciano
The Brockton Blockbuster
5'10 185-188lbs
49-0-0
43 KO's
http://www.rockymarciano.net/images/photogallery/rocky14.jpg

or

Floyd Patterson
5'11 1/2 190lbs
55-8-1
40 KO's
http://www.born-today.com/Today/pix/patterson_floyd.jpg


close to same weight and height
different styles

and if your gunna vote in the pole at least give your reason for choosing it

my personal prediction
Marciano mid-late round ko
maybe like between round 6-9
if Patterson boxed him

marciano by death within five.

either marciano ko's patterson in the middle rounds, or patterson wins a wide ud. probably rocky would catch up with him, though.

With the comments, tale of the tape, and equal sized photos of the two, I have to say that just may be the best introduction to a fantasy fight that I've ever seen on any boxing board...

Bravo!

thanks
i was trying to like set the mood

thanks
i was trying to like set the mood

You did well, my friend...very well! :)

Most often when someone presents a fantasy fight they offer very little input themselves into their initial post, and quite a few times all they do is post, "Who wins?"...Nice to see someone put some good thought & creativity into their opening post, no doubt.

You did well, my friend...very well! :)

Most often when someone presents a fantasy fight they offer very little input themselves into their initial post, and quite a few times all they do is post, "Who wins?"...Nice to see someone put some good thought & creativity into their opening post, no doubt.
Thanks
so what's your feeling on who would win?

I think that Patterson would come out strong like tyson used too- boxing Marciano but the rock would begin going to the body and maybe 4th round start really hurting Patterson and somewhere after there most likely 5 but also could happen later but probably before 9 he gets knocked down and knocked out, thats if the ref don't stop it :boxing:

Floyd Patterson would most likely frustrate Rocky Marciano with his speed. I can imagine Patterson dominating the first 3-5 rounds.

Marcianos great stamina and power would be the key. After the fifth round or so, he would take control of the fight and begin to connect with those monster punches of his. Patterson had a weak chin and it would only be a matter of time before a tired and battered Patterson hits the canvas for keeps.

Rocky Marciano by ko8.

If it goes the distance then Patterson by UD. If it doesn't go the distance then Marciano by brutal KO.

Rocky Marciano is trying to catch up on Patterson who is jabbing and dancing around the ring. Its working very well for him, and Rocky seems a bit frusterated. After the fight goes like 4 rounds, Rocky is starting to get back into the fight, forcing Patterson to go back to the ropes so he could throw his huge bombs on his body. By round 8 Patterson has a nasty cut in his left eye and its swollen. Rocky's eyes are a bit swollen by Pattersons jabs, but he's not as damaged as Patterson. At the start of round 10 Rocky is really swinging his punches, most of them missing. Patterson is still thrying to throw his jabs and combinations but it doesn't seem to effect Rocky. At the end of round 10, Rocky hits him with a crushin right hand that sends Patterson down the canvas, he manages to get up and the round is over. Round 11 starts with Rocky swinging wildly trying to end it all in that round. He's working on Pattersons body and he nails him on the left side oh his body and Patterson is down again. He still manages to get up, showing a lot of heart, but Rocky manages to finish him by a load of combinations and Patterson is down again. This time he doesn't make the count and the fight is over.

Rocky KO11

marciano takes this one by late ko floyd would use his footwork and speed and constantly jab marciano in the early rounds but by the later rounds marciano who has been like a bulldog in his pursuit of patterson and shot after shot are taking their toll on patterson, marciano with his amazing stamina would be throwin punches like it was still the first round and land
the punch on a shattered and bemused patterson in the 10th

Patterson's style was more like Mike Tyson's style of the 1980's.
Patterson will not be out jabbing Marciano. I belive he will be slugging it out with the Rock.

I belive he will be slugging it out with the Rock.

Which I think is a bad idea. If it were Shavers, Foreman or Tyson fighting Marciano, then they would be the ones to slug with Marciano and knock him around. But Patterson ain't a huge hitter, if he decides to slug with Marciano then it will be an early KO for the Brockton blockbuster.

i think patterson would be more likely to box Marciano cause not many people are gunna wanna get close enough to him to start slugging until he begins to slow down---but with Rocky's stamina that may not be until the 15th round if that :-)

This is a nobrainer. The rock stops patterson early on. Patterson was fast, but he would be standing there in front of marciano, and get ktfo by the 3 round.

I dont know were this PAtterson would keep Marciano back with a jab, and box like Ail comes from.

But from Moore to Ingo, and Ingo to Liston. Patterson slug it out with these guys. He used no movement, expect bobing and weaving(Dempsey, Tyson) and trying to land that leaping LEFT hook of his.

Had he box a little with Liston, maybe Patterson would not have been blown out in 1 round.

rocky in a 7-10th round ko, while dominating patterson the whole fight

Good match.I would go with Rocky on this one,Patterson may take the first few rounds but Marcianos aggresion and relentless pressure would take over.
Marciano ko in 6

I think this match is a bad match up anyway. I think Marciano vs Liston would be far more interesting and bloody!

marciano by ko/tko in 8

Patterson would have won a few rounds at the beginning of the fight, but similar to what Marciano did to Ezzard Charles, he would eventually have caught Patterson with a big shot or a combination.

I saw a bunch of Patterson's fights when they happened, and he was 1 of the smartest ex-heavyweight champions ever. He needed to be very crafty and careful because of his glass jaw. He actually was still learning additional things about boxing well into his 30s, and was outboxing Muhammad Ali in their 2nd fight until Ali got fed up with Patterson and opened a cut over 1 of Patterson's eyes with a combination. I was amazed at how Patterson was able to get in on Ali, land a short combination, and then get out. He did it for 4 or 5 rounds. Ali seemed surprisingly confused for a few rounds but he had the ability to cut other fighters with his punches. British fighters were always getting cut by Ali along with Jerry Quarry and Karl Mildenburger.

patterson matches up horribly vs rocky. his handspeed will give rocky huge fits, but rocky will neutralize it with his volume of punches and mauling on the inside. patterson loves to brawl, and brawling with rocky is suicide.

marciano KO 4 patterson

patterson matches up horribly vs rocky. his handspeed will give rocky huge fits, but rocky will neutralize it with his volume of punches and mauling on the inside. patterson loves to brawl, and brawling with rocky is suicide.

marciano KO 4 patterson

it took 9 rounds for marciano to ko charles, so no way he would ko patterson in four.

marciano in 13.

charles boxed marciano. patterson LOVED TO BRAWL. no way patterson survives 13 rounds brawling marciano.


STYLES STYLES STYLES, patterson does not match up as well vs marciano as charles does

charles boxed marciano. patterson LOVED TO BRAWL. no way patterson survives 13 rounds brawling marciano.


STYLES STYLES STYLES, patterson does not match up as well vs marciano as charles does

patterson's defense would make him survive 13 rounds.

if this fight makes it to round 15 marciano does him like charles and ko's him.

Marciano by KO 8-11 rounds

Patterson could dance for awhile but Marciano's durable and has good stamina so that kind of defense will only last so long

Patterson has a worse defense and MUCH worse chin than Charles so how the hell would he last longer?

eventually Marciano catches up with Floyd...big KO middle to late rounds..

Since Patterson is a swarmer aswell, it comes down to the better slugger wich is Marciano.

Marciano in 2.

see this is hard to call because its not if he's going to KO Patterson its when, because Marciano would only have to catch Patterson a few times but Patterson was fast so he could have kept marciano at bay for alittle while

I highly dont think this fight is going pass round 4 or 5. Both men would be slugging it out. And in this case, the man with the better Chin, and sometimes Power, is going to win out.

i figured Patterson would run and try to drag the fight out but if it went to slugging

Marciano in 4 by KO/TKO

One of the main REASONS Liston took Patterson out in the first round 2 times, was because Patterson was TRYING to swarm Liston. Patterson made Liston miss with his bobing and weaving some of the time, But when Liston landed, it was as good as over. I do belive Patterson could last 5 rounds with Liston if he DID run and try to drag it out.
But he charge head first into Sonney, and it was not pretty.

rocky would do awful things to floyd patterson. this would be an ugly fight.

Since Patterson is a swarmer aswell, it comes down to the better slugger wich is Marciano.

Marciano in 2.

patterson is a much better boxer than marciano, so no way he would be blown out like that. patterson is way faster than walcott or charles could ever dream of becoming.

so like i said, marciano in 13.

Speed does not equal skill or timing. Patterson was not as good of a boxer as Charles. He did not have Charles's chin either.