He's 35W - 2 - 34 Ko, a 97% ko ratio. Only one man out of Vitali's wins has ended the fight on his feet.

He's never been knocked down. Nor has he ever been behind on the score cards at the end of any of his fights. Including his two losses.

Aren't these the kind of qualities we look for in a champion?

Some complain about his style being too robotic, but the numbers don't lie. He is effective and takes his fights out of the judges hands.

Lewis isn't going to come out of retirement, he's not that stupid. Would a rematch and victory over Chris Byrd win over some of the doubters?

What is it that you don't like about Vitali?

I never saw him fight so I don't know.

Please tell me the fighters the robot has beaten. He's lost every times he's been in with respectable competition.

As long as he beats up fat men, and has-beens, he'll be regarded as **** to most.

i agree wiyh you vitali is a very good champion i dont think that a chris byrd win would win over any doubters only cause everybody knows vitali would beat byrd and i like what you said about lewis

Please tell me the fighters the robot has beaten. He's lost every times he's been in with respectable competition.

As long as he beats up fat men, and has-beens, he'll be regarded as **** to most.

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Please tell me the fighters the robot has beaten. He's lost every times he's been in with respectable competition.

As long as he beats up fat men, and has-beens, he'll be regarded as **** to most.

Ditto. Except I don't regard him as **** (I actually think he's probably the best), just quite unproven. He needs to fight some of: Byrd, Ruiz, Golota (he'll be WBO champ) (& possibly Toney) to prove he's the real champ. Rahman is a good start though.

The only two positive comments come from people with vitali on their avatar

Duh, that's because the rest are haters, who probably think that Lewis is to boxing what sliced bread is to sandwiches.

Duh, that's because the rest are haters, who probably think that Lewis is to boxing what sliced bread is to sandwiches.


Convenient ?

Duh, that's because the rest are haters, who probably think that Lewis is to boxing what sliced bread is to sandwiches.

Why is anyone who raises questions over the standard of Klitschko's competition immediately branded a hater? That's pathetic

So, are you of the opinion that Klitschko has fought and beaten the best in the division hollister?

I agree, you can't label someone a hater just because they think Vitali hasn't proven himself as the real deal. Because the fact is he still hasn't show it. I myself think he could beat the other top heavy, but he needs to do it first.

He is not only white but he is east-european, seems like a lot people (americans especially) dislike it.

and his two losses...he didn't lose them cuz he got BEAT...but rather cuz of his injuries...i see a very good fighter in Vitali...but I still think he's too awkward to watch..haha

I think Vitali is the best HW boxer right now. He is a good boxer but I dont he'll ever be in the same league as the alltime greats such as Frazier, Liston or Louis.

the problem is he is twice the size of everyone else, people like underdogs, guys that overcome adversity to succeed, how can the average guy identify with someone who is 6'8? that is why im not a fan, he wins because of sheer size advantage, not because he is better pound for pound

I think it will be a while until somebody beats him

What people don't realize is that there are a lot of athletes that suceed because they have a natural ability. VK's natural ability is that he is tall, but he does many other things effectively to build off that.

I don't know of any Vick (American Football) haters that say that he is an ordinary quarterback that happens to be one of the fastest men in the NFL, and that the only reason that he can win games is because he is so fast.

There have been other fighters that have been tall, I think there may be a middle or a super middle that is 6'4. Kenese Ikeke I think??

But VK has something else and to categorize all of his success as being directly attributible to height shows a poor understanding of what it takes to fight at the level these guys fight at.

Last thing, you say VK has never been down, and never been behind, but I would argue that he may never have lost a round. The two fights he may have lost a round, Byrd and LL, the rounds were close, but they were not clearly against VK, although I think that he legitimately lost them.

Please tell me the fighters the robot has beaten. He's lost every times he's been in with respectable competition.

As long as he beats up fat men, and has-beens, he'll be regarded as **** to most.

Who does he have to beat so is not regarded as ****? Let's see, Byrd and Ruiz are out of the question, King will not let those fights happen. Toney will never fight VK. The only other choice is Golota, I can see DK staging a unification fight between "two eastern european giants, products of post-soviet school of athletes, blah, blah, blah" That is, if Golota wins (which I think he will. And even if that fights happens and VK wins, everyone will say that he beat another old man. The problem is there is no respectible competition in the division right now but it doesn't make VK a lesser boxer.

Another thing is people calling him robotic. How about methodic? That's how I see his fights. He picks them apart carefully, executing his game plan like a chess game. It doesn't mean he is robotic. Tell that to Lewis, I am sure he'll tell you how robot's punches nearly killed him. Say what you will but this is the closest Lewis ever been to the KD/KO aside from those cases when he did get KD/KO.

he doesn't avenge his losses

the newbie says:

i always think that it's funny when people say that elite atheletes aren't any good. anyone who gets even into the top 100 of the heavyweight division has to be a phenomenal athelete...

i don't know as much about boxing as some of the people on here, but vitali k has power and he can take a punch, and he has great boxing skills - but his endurance is questionable. anyone notice how tired he gets in the later rounds of his fights? it didn't stop him from beating up danny williams, but i wonder what would have happened in the lennox lewis fight if it had kept on going, and if lewis had really come there ready to fight. also i bet that a small, fast tyson-type who could get close in with vitali without getting clobbered first could mess him up bad - big guys are always susceptable to that...

overall i'd say that klitschko is an elite fighter, and i won't be surprised if he beats rahman and ruiz and ends up dominating the heavyweight division for a couple of years.

They are saying he is unproven

VK is judged alot..and whatever..his attitude (what he has said in interviews is great)-he knows he not the best and he isnt to blame for not getting lewis in a rematch,he knows a lot of people dont like him but he's ok with it,he doesnt complain he just goes out there everytime and beats his opponent. He saids that way he will gain respect and for those who dont give it to him,he's ok with it. He a boxer,he not a politician which is what lewis seem to be,he a boxer,he goes out there and wins and is facing good opponents.
he has said all those things in interviews before..i started to respect him like that..i love this line:

VK:"i know i am not considered the best...and i am doubted by many,but with time i will prove them wrong,i will go out there and ko my opponent time after time and will gain my respect and not complain ,and at the end after i have finished them all off,those who still hate me will probably be lewis and his freinds or non (true) boxing fans"

Who does he have to beat so is not regarded as ****?

How about respectable competition?

Let's see, Byrd and Ruiz are out of the question,

How convienient. Fortunately for both Byrd and Ruiz, they have legitimate victories under their belt that lend credence to their claims as today's best heavyweight. The robot does not.

Toney will never fight VK.

Bull**** that you pulled out of your ass. Toney would happily knock out the robot on any day of the week.

Another thing is people calling him robotic. How about methodic?

No, how about robotic. Standing straight up and throwing your jab underhanded (the Vitali Jabbercut as I like to call it) isn't methodic...that's having no skill.

That's how I see his fights. He picks them apart carefully, executing his game plan like a chess game.

LOL. This may be the funniest thing I've ever read on this site to date. Please explain how he picked apart Corrie Sanders who was too much of a ****ing whale to move around the ring...or that other water buffalo Kirk Johnson?

It doesn't mean he is robotic. Tell that to Lewis,

An out of shape, unmotivated Lewis coming off the heavyweight megafight of the decade was tearing Klit's eye apart and getting ready to KO the robot. If anything, that fight proved just how bad Klit is...even a fringe contendor like Hasim Rahman was able to put Lewis to sleep when he came in fat and out of shape.

Say what you will but this is the closest Lewis ever been to the KD/KO aside from those cases when he did get KD/KO.

Historical revisionism. Lewis was tired, and wobbled once...BFD...when all was said and done Klitchsko lost the fight..and he has yet to beat a single worthy contendor to date.

TONEY KO VK!????hahahaha...your frikin dreaming man..toney couldnt even ko bookers...plz..vk will beat toney's ass..are u kidding me...what does toney have that u think can beat vk...even his skills wont last for 12rounds (hello toney is kinda fat) and will get caught and tko'd

Um let's review.

Toney tears bicep muscle in first round of comeback fight...continues to kick Booker's ass for 12 rounds, knocks him down, and shuts him out on all cards.

Klitschko hurts his shoulder in fight with Byrd......quits on stool.

So I ask you...what makes you think the robot Vitali Quitchsko can beat James Toney?

TONEY KO VK!????hahahaha...your frikin dreaming man..toney couldnt even ko bookers...plz..vk will beat toney's ass..are u kidding me...what does toney have that u think can beat vk...even his skills wont last for 12rounds (hello toney is kinda fat) and will get caught and tko'd



talent, a skilled smaller man can beat a less skilled bigger man, especially one with good D

How about respectable competition? What a precise statement. Respectable competition such as...??? NAME one boxer who YOU would consider respectable and who is willing to get in the ring with Klichko?


How convienient. Fortunately for both Byrd and Ruiz, they have legitimate victories under their belt that lend credence to their claims as today's best heavyweight. The robot does not. Both Byrd and Ruiz also have legitimate losses under their belts. Besides, you are probably the only person that called Ruiz today's best heavyweight. While I respect your opinion, I tend to agree with thousands of people who have a diferrent one.
Having a legitimate victory does not make you the best. If Rahman KOd Lewis and Maskaev KOd Rahman out of the ring does that make Maskaev the best heavyweight? The only reason Ruiz and Byrd still have the belts is because DK is behind them.



Bull**** that you pulled out of your ass. Toney would happily knock out the robot on any day of the week. Toney would happily TALK about knocking out Klichko, but as for KOing him? I don't know, he couldn't even KO Booker who is nowhere near Klichko in size and abilities (you will, of course, disagree with that because you don't like Klichko in general) When you are talking about Toney KOing Klichko, it is you who is pulling something out of your ass (and it isn't bright ideas)




No, how about robotic. Standing straight up and throwing your jab underhanded (the Vitali Jabbercut as I like to call it) isn't methodic...that's having no skill.Let's see... We all know your best HW man in the world Ruiz's style: hug and hope for the best. Your other best HW in the world Byrd runs around the ring calling it "slick style" and does all kinds of illegal things in the ring. Toney doesn't have punch power. In other words, name one boxer who you think is good and you will have 50 people telling you that he isn't good for ****. Just because YOU happen not to like VK's style doesn't make him bad. Everyone agrees that Klichko's style is awkward to deal with but very effective. Everyone except you, hence VK sucks.



LOL. This may be the funniest thing I've ever read on this site to date. Please explain how he picked apart Corrie Sanders who was too much of a ****ing whale to move around the ring...or that other water buffalo Kirk Johnson?



An out of shape, unmotivated Lewis coming off the heavyweight megafight of the decade was tearing Klit's eye apart and getting ready to KO the robot. If anything, that fight proved just how bad Klit is...even a fringe contendor like Hasim Rahman was able to put Lewis to sleep when he came in fat and out of shape.



Historical revisionism. Lewis was tired, and wobbled once...BFD...when all was said and done Klitchsko lost the fight..and he has yet to beat a single worthy contendor to date.These "reviews" are so pathetic I am not even going to respond to them.

Another Klichko hater... Join the ranks, you'll feel right at home here. :rolleyes:

Isn't it interesting how Lewis won the bout with Vitali, yet Lewis fans still need to find excuses for his performance. I find that rather telling.

If Lewis fans believed he answered all the questions in the ring, They wouldn't have to stick up for him.

Isn't it interesting how Lewis won the bout with Vitali, yet Lewis fans still need to find excuses for his performance. I find that rather telling.

If Lewis fans believed he answered all the questions in the ring, They wouldn't have to stick up for him.


face facts man, vitali will never be regarded like a tyson or ali or marciano, or even a lewis, he is a godam robotic bum who fights like a *****, he backs up and throws a jab all dam day, when he kicked kirk johnsons ass i liked him, he attacked and went for the kill, if he did that all the time he would gain respect real quick. unless you are ali and your style is fun to watch, which vilali's is not, then you have to go after people from the opening bell, he should have finished williams in one round. if he kayo's rahman early that will help alot

He is slow.
He is clumsy.
He is not all that skilled.
He gets by on size alone.

Oh yeah, and he poses on the cover of magazines nude with his own brother.

That about sums it up.

face facts man, vitali will never be regarded like a tyson or ali or marciano, or even a lewis, he is a godam robotic bum who fights like a *****, he backs up and throws a jab all dam day, when he kicked kirk johnsons ass i liked him, he attacked and went for the kill, if he did that all the time he would gain respect real quick. unless you are ali and your style is fun to watch, which vilali's is not, then you have to go after people from the opening bell, he should have finished williams in one round. if he kayo's rahman early that will help alot

Uhh he has like 25 knockout in 3 rounds.

He fights smart he paces himself and pics his opponents apart

Just watch any of these
V.KLITSCHKO VS LEWIS
V.KLITSCHKO VS JOHNSON
V.KLITSCHKO VS SANDERS
W.KLITSCHKO VS SANDERS *
W.KLITSCHKO VS BREWSTER
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These fights answer all questions about Vitali.

he doesn't avenge his losses

Eeh LL would rather retire than fight him again.

And he realy dont have to prove he cant beat Byrd, everyone know he will whop him again only this time vits shoulder wont save BYrd

i think that vitali k would probably beat james toney if they ever fought, but i think that toney would be a very dangerous opponnent - much more dangerous than, say, danny williams. i saw toney fight jirov a few months ago, and he looked very smooth and powerful. of course jirov helped him out alot by letting him hit him in the head over and over again...

that's another interesting topic - why doesn't vassily jirov move his head? he was clearly winning in both the toney & morrer fights, but he leads with his head and doesn't seem to try to avoid punches at all - especially in the later rounds of his fights - and so he inevitably gets dazed and goes down.

Please tell me the fighters the robot has beaten. He's lost every times he's been in with respectable competition.




competetion so crappy, that several previous HW champs favored his competition almost every bout since before Lewis till now? Are they just racists? or does that mean in their minds VK's oppenents are respectable competition? Are they someone you would trust as knowledgabe about boxing skills?

How about respectable competition?


He's beating who's there, he'll get to Byrd soon enough, as if that fight needs to happen, only Byrd lovers think he would beat VK in a rematch. If you tried to disguise your contempt for the white fighter, it might make your posts more credible, at least until everyone reads them.

Vitali should quit ducking Byrd. If he's fighting Rahman, how is that any different than fighting Byrd? They're both King fighters. Klitschko fears Byrd.

Vitali should quit ducking Byrd. If he's fighting Rahman, how is that any different than fighting Byrd? They're both King fighters. Klitschko fears Byrd.

i think if you do a little bit of research, you will find the answers .. and maybe even change some of your opinions, if your mind is open to truth..

Vitali should quit ducking Byrd. If he's fighting Rahman, how is that any different than fighting Byrd? They're both King fighters. Klitschko fears Byrd.

Rahman doesn't have a belt, Byrd does. Its not that difficult.

Rahman doesn't have a belt, Byrd does. Its not that difficult.



vitali is a paper champion
he is not very good
when mike tyson fights
him he will knock out vitali.

vitali is a paper champion
he is not very good
when mike tyson fights
him he will knock out vitali.

Maybe he should rematch Danny Williams first.

Maybe he should rematch Danny Williams first.


tyson loss cuz his knee was weak
vitali quit in one of his loss
a real warrior dont quit. and lennox
beat vitali so bad his face looked
like raw meat. vitali is not good
he is just filling in for right now
til tyson wins back the title.

tyson loss cuz his knee was weak
vitali quit in one of his loss
a real warrior dont quit. and lennox
beat vitali so bad his face looked
like raw meat. vitali is not good
he is just filling in for right now
til tyson wins back the title.

I think it's better to quit and not injure yourself further than being knocked out by Danny Williams

you know the good thing about this running vitali klitschko argument is that it's all gonna be solved over the next two years, as all the belt holders fight each other (i hope)... since i haven't seen ruiz or byrd fight yet, i'm not sure who i think is gonna come out on top, if it ends up being one of those three at all...

God, I hope that happens. Out of the top fighters, I could see Toney taking Ruiz's belt, Byrd taking it from Toney, and VK taking both from Byrd. Not sure what's going on with Brewster, so I'll leave him out for now.

Brewster is beating Golota

Brewster is beating Golota


That actually could be a decent fight, but as much as I like Golota, if he doesn't win early, he isn't going to win, IMO

All the VK haters really need to give their fingers a rest and stop looking like idiots. If you haters came out and just plainly stated that VK is unproven, I would respect that. But, NO, you have to bash him by calling him robotic, having no skills, posing on magazines with his brother, etc. Your arguments have no credibility and show how little you respect the sport.

VK is fighting the best that will accept the fight to begin with. You don't think VK wants to whip Byrd, Ruiz, and Brewster to unify the titles? Why don't you start a thread about how these guys are ducking VK and how they are the biggest ******* in boxing? That's how most fans see it. Don King is one reason, but the fighters do have a say, after all, they do pay Don King's salary. DK and the other BS champions are all at fault and they should be criticized by the fans WAY MORE than what VK is receiving on this thread.

He's 35W - 2 - 34 Ko, a 97% ko ratio. Only one man out of Vitali's wins has ended the fight on his feet.

He's never been knocked down. Nor has he ever been behind on the score cards at the end of any of his fights. Including his two losses.

Aren't these the kind of qualities we look for in a champion?

Some complain about his style being too robotic, but the numbers don't lie. He is effective and takes his fights out of the judges hands.

Lewis isn't going to come out of retirement, he's not that stupid. Would a rematch and victory over Chris Byrd win over some of the doubters?

What is it that you don't like about Vitali?

You can't be the Heavyweight Champion and 'Squat when you pee'. Should I go on?

You can't be the Heavyweight Champion and 'Squat when you pee'. Should I go on?

Yes, please go on. Please explain what you mean?

You can't be the Heavyweight Champion and 'Squat when you pee'. Should I go on?


You've seen this guy pee? Jeez lol

You can't be the Heavyweight Champion and 'Squat when you pee'. Should I go on?

are you talking about Lenox Lewis?

his stamina and he could use a lil speed. Actually he don't need all of that against today's heavyweights.

Lets face it VK is the best of a mediocre bunch at the moment. Although he beat on Danny Williams for the whole fight he struggled to get rid of him, when he shouldnt have. For the record I beleive Lewis was and will probably always be regarded as a better fighter than VK. VK may have been ahead on the cards when the Lewis VK fight was stopped but at that stage of the fight but Lewis was working his way back into it and if the fight had gone on he would have made such a mess of VK's eye that I dont think it would have ever recovered well enough for VK to be in the position he is today - keeping the belts warm until we find a fighter worthy of some real excitement fighting for the belts

Dude, I don't agree that LL was coming back in that fight. I think that VK isn't an all time great, just a big fighter that is able to use his physical attributes effectively, just like LL, only a little less fluidly, but to imply that he isn't even worthy of holding a belt, that's reaching, I can't agree with that.

Maybe if someone can get close enough to make him fight, we'll see some excitement, maybe Rahman will be the one, who knows.