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N P
01-15-2005, 08:09 PM
Are there honest politicians?

Anyone, you can think of?

Boxerdog
01-15-2005, 08:11 PM
Jimmy Carter.....next question.

N P
01-15-2005, 08:11 PM
Jimmy Carter.....next question.

Is he the only one?

Boxerdog
01-15-2005, 08:13 PM
Yes. He's the only one. :rolleyes:

Next question.

N P
01-15-2005, 08:16 PM
Yes. He's the only one. :rolleyes:

Next question.


Who invtented the periodic table of chemical elements?

Boxerdog
01-15-2005, 08:17 PM
Jimmy Carter..........next.

N P
01-15-2005, 08:17 PM
Jimmy Carter..........next.

lol :D :D :D

leff
01-16-2005, 07:43 AM
Are there honest politicians?

Anyone, you can think of?

No none

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Mr. Violence
01-17-2005, 03:36 AM
there probably are some but you would have to search very hard to find one. it's all about money.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
01-17-2005, 04:56 AM
only dead ones. Honesty and politics kill.

LuKahnLi
01-17-2005, 10:30 AM
John McCain.

The only time he was dishonest was when he endorsed GW Bush. Cuz he REALLY hates his guts.

scap
01-17-2005, 01:20 PM
John McCain.

The only time he was dishonest was when he endorsed GW Bush. Cuz he REALLY hates his guts.

Man you are right about that, but McCain's a good soldier who knows he must stay loyal to the establishment if he wants a another crack at the oval office...

Clinton is an honest politician, he just lies to his wife

Mr. Violence
01-17-2005, 01:25 PM
Man you are right about that, but McCain's a good soldier who knows he must stay loyal to the establishment if he wants a another crack at the oval office...

Clinton is an honest politician, he just lies to his wife





there's nothing wrong with Clinton getting ass on the side...it looks to me like Hilary don't put out anyway...so what's a man to do? if my girlfriend or wife quit giving out like many of them do...you bet your ass i would be banging chics behind their backs.


(btw-i'm not a democrat or a republican so i don't wanna hear no "you're a liberal" bull****)

scap
01-17-2005, 01:48 PM
there's nothing wrong with Clinton getting ass on the side...it looks to me like Hilary don't put out anyway...so what's a man to do? if my girlfriend or wife quit giving out like many of them do...you bet your ass i would be banging chics behind their backs.


(btw-i'm not a democrat or a republican so i don't wanna hear no "you're a liberal" bull****)


I won't call you a liberal...Im a liberal....dansweeney was bukkakkeed by 15 dudes...was he wearing sun glasses?

Mr. Violence
01-17-2005, 01:53 PM
I won't call you a liberal...Im a liberal....dansweeney was got bukkakkeed by 15 dudes...was he wearing sun glasses?




yeah no offense i just prefer third party politics because i think both the republicans and democrats are full of ****...but let's not turn this into a political discussion...everyone has a right to thier own political views and both sides sometimes have valid points....about dansweeny...no he forgot his sunglasses so I accidentally got him in the eye...it wasn't pretty.....ha ha ha

{BrownBomber}
01-17-2005, 07:15 PM
Yes there was one,he is dead now.Luis Donaldo Colosio was his name he was murdered in T.J.


Born into a family with a long political heritage in Magdalena de Kino, Sonora, Colosio Murrieta studied at the ITESM, after which he joined the PRI (1972). After that he went on to do postgraduate studies at the University of Pennsylvania in the USA and research work at the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis in Austria before returning to Mexico. In 1979 he joined the Ministry of Budget and Planning under future president Carlos Salinas.

He was elected to Congress as the federal deputy for his hometown in 1985 and, in 1987, he was selected to serve on the PRI's National Executive Committee. In 1988 Carlos Salinas chose him as the campaign manager for his (successful, although suspicious) presidential campaign. In the same election, Colosio was elected to the Senate, representing Sonora.

In the early years of Salinas's presidency, Colosio served as the chairman of their party's National Executive Committee. In 1992, Salinas chose him to serve in his cabinet, in the newly created position of Social Development Secretary. In November 1993, the PRI announced that Colosio was to be its candidate for the upcoming presidential election.

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Campaign for president
After a poor start, the spotlight focusing on PRI's Manuel Camacho Solís negotiations with the EZLN guerrilla, Colosio appeared to prove popular with the public in general. He was greeted by large crowds throughout his presidential campaign. Since Mexico's constitution allows presidents to remain in power for only one term, and as a rule PRI presidents hand picked their own successors (the party's first primary election in history took place in 1999), Colosio apparently enjoyed the president's favour, expressed in his famous declaration No se hagan bolas: el candidato es Colosio (Don't get it wrong: Colosio is the candidate).

Salinas' declaration was motivated by persistent rumours that government negotiator Camacho, highly popular by his handling of talks with the EZLN, would replace Colosio, who wasn't doing well in his campaign. Camacho let speculation grow for some time, but finally declared he wouldn't run for office, and would concentrate in the Chiapas situation instead. After that, and some changes in political strategy, Colosio's campaign took off.

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Assassination
In the early evening of 23 March 1994, at a campaign rally in a poor neighborhood of Tijuana, Colosio was shot in the head from a distance of a few centimeters. He collapsed, and was subsequently rushed to the city's main hospital. His death was announced a few hours later.

Although the shooter, arrested at the site, never wavered from his story that he had acted alone, rumors still surround Colosio's assassination. The poor handling of the shooter by the authorities, who shaved, bathed and gave him a prison haircut before showing him to the media, started rumours about whether that man, who looked so different to the one arrested, was really the murderer. Colosio received three impacts, and it was never clear if they could have been done by a single person. The case has been officially closed after many different prosecutors investigated it, but after the many mishandlings of the investigation and contradictory versions, the controversy continues.

Blame was initially laid at the feet of former foreign minister Manuel Camacho Solís, another of Salinas's protégés and allegedly very bitter at having been passed over as his successor. The finger of suspicion also pointed in the direction of organized crime, particularly the Tijuana drug cartel. With the passage of time, however, the most persistent rumor is that Colosio was shot on the orders of Salinas himself, because of the populist turn his campaign had taken, threatening to undermine Salinas's neoliberal reforms. The material murderer, Mario Aburto, is imprisoned in high-security La Palma.

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Aftermath
With only four months before the election, the PRI found itself hamstrung by the constitutional requirement that no presidential candidate can hold public office during the six months immediately prior to the election; this effectively disqualified the entire cabinet, where most of the more promising replacements were. Of the few potential candidates available, the party eventually chose Ernesto Zedillo Ponce de León, who had resigned as education minister to serve as Colosio's campaign manager. This stroke of luck for Zedillo, who would have never been a candidate under normal circumstances, gave raise to even more rumours.

A year after Colosio's assassination, his wife, Laura Riojas, died of cancer. Two children, now being cared for by relatives, survived. Colosio's father is still determined to uncover what he suspects are hidden truths behind his son murder and, in 2004, he published a book about the case.

Boxerdog
01-17-2005, 11:36 PM
What would make anybody think McCain is honest? :confused:

neils7147933
01-18-2005, 12:27 AM
One doesn't need to look very far to find examples of blatant lies by both McCain or Clinton...

LuKahnLi
01-18-2005, 09:31 AM
One doesn't need to look very far to find examples of blatant lies by both McCain or Clinton...

McCain lied about forgiving Bush for the 2000 campaign (he doesn't). What else?

Bombardier
01-18-2005, 10:04 AM
McCain is one of the only politicians in Washington, Republican or otherwise, trying to curb greenhouse gases. This has been the winter from hell for most people but Congress still won't do anything cause the big polluters pay them off. McCain is the only one who's speaking up.

LuKahnLi
01-18-2005, 10:11 AM
He is one of the few republicans that break party ranks on many issues as well.

dodge
01-18-2005, 10:13 AM
McCain is one of the only politicians I have respect for. He's a uniter and not a divider.

srs2000
01-18-2005, 12:24 PM
we know this is a daft question