trinidadpr87
01-15-2005, 04:35 PM
who do you think the most overrated fighter right now is?give some reasons.
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View Full Version : Most Overrated fighter(now) trinidadpr87 01-15-2005, 04:35 PM who do you think the most overrated fighter right now is?give some reasons. The Fix 01-15-2005, 04:48 PM james toney and he has no competition cus no one is as overhyped as he is. he will get beat by a top 5 heavy mark my words svenottke 01-15-2005, 04:59 PM chico corrales or antonio tarver. chico somehow gets more credit,for his win over casamyor,then he should. he went down in both fights,and refused a rubbermatch, after his close dec win in the rematch.tarver isn't even the 2nd best lt heavy fighting right now. jswa17 01-15-2005, 05:01 PM Corrales is overrated...he needs to be more of a boxer... jpboxer3 01-15-2005, 05:11 PM Floyd Mayweather Jr. I dont see how he could be ranked #2 on most p4p lists when he's only fought 3times in 2yrs against mediocre opposition. MlLkMan 01-15-2005, 05:17 PM Floyd Mayweather Jr. I dont see how he could be ranked #2 on most p4p lists when he's only fought 3times in 2yrs against medicre opposition. yea im with you. Tha Greatest 01-15-2005, 05:57 PM Shane Mosley...that guy just SUCKS! jayrichardse 01-15-2005, 06:21 PM i think that bernard hopkins is overrated because he fought robert allen 3x which proved nothing PBDS 01-15-2005, 06:29 PM yea im with you. ...I agree on Mayweather and Corales!!!!! Toney is another good one as someone mentioned earlier. Chris Byrd also comes to mind. People seem to easliy forget that he really lost 2 of his last 3 fights. Rahman is also being overated solely based on his win over Kali Meehan. He will get crushed by Vit if they fight. How about Oscar as well? I do like like Oscar but he seems to be very overated. Roy may have also been way overated and it took us a while to see it. Tyson also falls in the overated group. The first time he met a man that wouldn't back down to him, he flat out got his ass kicked. Johnny_Rocket 01-15-2005, 08:05 PM Antoinio Tarver...Really what has this guy done? Roy Jones clearly wasnt the same fighter he once was when they fought....Floyd Mayweather...again what has he really done? Shane Mosley...as someone else mentioned, he just plain sucks!!!.....Winky Wright...he beat Shane Mosley and thats about it, lets see some serious competition Ronald Tha Greatest 01-15-2005, 08:38 PM ...I agree on Mayweather and Corales!!!!! Toney is another good one as someone mentioned earlier. Chris Byrd also comes to mind. People seem to easliy forget that he really lost 2 of his last 3 fights. Rahman is also being overated solely based on his win over Kali Meehan. He will get crushed by Vit if they fight. How about Oscar as well? I do like like Oscar but he seems to be very overated. Roy may have also been way overated and it took us a while to see it. Tyson also falls in the overated group. The first time he met a man that wouldn't back down to him, he flat out got his ass kicked. u think everybody's over rated...Rahman is a under dog he aint underrated, he just has a better chance then other heavies..RJJ has accomplished a lot in his career, he hardly even lost rounds, DLH accomplished a lot, Mayweather n Corrales i dont think they're over rated. Iron Mike no his not either. Whos not over rated? AIR_KENG 01-15-2005, 08:42 PM i agree on corrales. still has so much to prove, and he needs to be more of a fighter... too cautious... PBDS 01-15-2005, 09:16 PM u think everybody's over rated...Rahman is a under dog he aint underrated, he just has a better chance then other heavies..RJJ has accomplished a lot in his career, he hardly even lost rounds, DLH accomplished a lot, Mayweather n Corrales i dont think they're over rated. Iron Mike no his not either. Whos not over rated? .....Rahman is being touted as the guy to knock off Vitali and is being considered a top notch heavyweight. What a ****in joke!! RJJ managed his career to avoid big punchers and big punishment because he knew in his heart he had a glass jaw. DLL has never won a meaningful fight in his career. Lost to Tito, lost to sorry ass Mosley twice, whiped by Hop, should have lost to Sturm. Mayweather had trouble in his last fight and he can't take a heavy punch. Zoo would put him into a coma. Besides, he has the problems with his hands getting injured. Let that **** happen in a dog fight and he is toast. Corrales got whiped so bad by Mayweather that he cried like a little ***** in the ring. He looked like an amateur in that fight and now everyone thinks he is a stud. WTF????? What else ya got genius??? PBDS 01-15-2005, 09:20 PM u think everybody's over rated...Rahman is a under dog he aint underrated, he just has a better chance then other heavies..RJJ has accomplished a lot in his career, he hardly even lost rounds, DLH accomplished a lot, Mayweather n Corrales i dont think they're over rated. Iron Mike no his not either. Whos not over rated? .....Oh I forgot aluminum Mike. The first guy he met who wasn't afraid of him and he got his ass kicked. Tyson is a coward who is a front runner only. As soon as things get tough he becomes the sick little man that he is inside. Douglas brought it out. He quit basically against Holy twice, Lewis beat him like a punk, and Williams made him quit too. He is weak mentaly and when he gets in a tough fight he can't hack it. I hear is IQ is retard level as well. That actually explains alot. Tha Greatest 01-15-2005, 10:18 PM .....Oh I forgot aluminum Mike. The first guy he met who wasn't afraid of him and he got his ass kicked. Tyson is a coward who is a front runner only. As soon as things get tough he becomes the sick little man that he is inside. Douglas brought it out. He quit basically against Holy twice, Lewis beat him like a punk, and Williams made him quit too. He is weak mentaly and when he gets in a tough fight he can't hack it. I hear is IQ is retard level as well. That actually explains alot. DLH Beat trinidad and beat mosley tha 2nd time, and for Hopkins he came from superfeatherweight and fought Hopkins. rjj was good and he did duck some fighters i guess u rite bout him and corrales ok he lost to mayweather he came back n won 2 fights he wasnt supposed to, floyd mayweather aint tha best 140 pounder but at 135 he was really good except against castillo, but tha thing is every fighter will lose some time, it's if u learn from it. Why u actin like a lil ***** about it. BTW u a amateur boxer? what weight n ur record? SweetScience 01-15-2005, 10:36 PM Ricky Hatton Tha Greatest 01-15-2005, 10:41 PM Ricky Hatton ya true NO way he can beat Tszyu i will bet every single one of my points on that fight PBDS 01-15-2005, 10:45 PM DLH Beat trinidad and beat mosley tha 2nd time, and for Hopkins he came from superfeatherweight and fought Hopkins. rjj was good and he did duck some fighters i guess u rite bout him and corrales ok he lost to mayweather he came back n won 2 fights he wasnt supposed to, floyd mayweather aint tha best 140 pounder but at 135 he was really good except against castillo, but tha thing is every fighter will lose some time, it's if u learn from it. Why u actin like a lil ***** about it. BTW u a amateur boxer? what weight n ur record? .....Nah, I never boxed at all. A great athlete in just about every other sport. My love for boxing came later in life unfortunately. Been in enough street fights to know when a guys heart is in it or not though. I just have a problem with the hype certain guys get for basically doing nothing. PBDS 01-15-2005, 10:46 PM ya true NO way he can beat Tszyu i will bet every single one of my points on that fight ...That fight will find a way not to happen, and if it does Hatton will get smoked!!! Sorry to the loyal brits, but thats the way it's gonna be. adeelr 01-16-2005, 12:30 AM Tarver, Mosley, floyd mayweather are the three most overrated fighter rightnow. Mosley got beat, so did tarver, and floyd will at the hands of moralles or pacqiao. `STEELHEAD 01-16-2005, 01:49 AM floyd mayweather, mike tyson, john ruiz gwenstefani 01-16-2005, 02:10 AM Joe mesi! He got his ass handed to him by a blown up cruiser. I think Ruiz is underated. Boxing is a sport and flat out hardly anyone can beat ruiz because he imposes his will on his opponent. Thats boxing. And he can hit,,,golota was taking some big shots in the later rounds. Tha Greatest 01-16-2005, 03:08 AM Joe mesi! He got his ass handed to him by a blown up cruiser. I think Ruiz is underated. Boxing is a sport and flat out hardly anyone can beat ruiz because he imposes his will on his opponent. Thats boxing. And he can hit,,,golota was taking some big shots in the later rounds. how can u possibly like RUIZ, everyone is hoping ruiz will get out of tha sport, he is a discgrace, A DISCGRACE!!!!! He got his ass kicked by a former middleweight!! That's like Hopkins beatin a prime mike tyson. back to ruiz, he sucks so bad, people of puerto rico hate him gwenstefani 01-16-2005, 03:25 AM Hes one of the few men to knock down holyfield,first peurtorican champ,how many times has he defended a belt? Hes beat kirk johnson,oquendo,golota,holyfield,rahman? His record is awesome,,actually on paper hes the best in the division! If he sucks then why didnt ol golota knock him out? Fareastwarrior 01-16-2005, 05:57 AM Baby Joe Mesi is definitely overrated. Look at the huge media attention for him in contrast to his poor performances against Vasili Jirov and Monte Barret. Another fighter who is overrated is Sugar Shane Mosley. After losing twice to Vernon Forrest and Winky Wright you can just say that he is not the pound for pound fighter you had in your mind. Floyd Mayweather JR is definitely overrated. Let him take on one of the top dogs in the division to prove he is one of the best at this moment. James Toney is also overrated. That guy has got the biggest mouth of all boxers, insulting every fighter in the division. He performed nothing in the last year due to injuries, couldn't knockout Rydel Booker either. Let Dr. Iron Fist use his fist to shut his mouth forever. Ricky Hatton is overrated, because he beats guys in his backyard. Why does this Britton doesn't have the balls to fight outside UK or is he too afraid he would never come back to his homeland? TyrantT316 01-16-2005, 10:48 AM this is really just about who is hyped the most... Mayweather is hyped where he is at because of: -Natural skills -Beat the undefeated Corrales who was supposed to be the monster puncher and was expected to blash Floyd -He is undefeated and has been impressive in like 95% of his wins. -While not GREAT fighters, has fought consistent tough and top fighters like Corley, Sosa, N'Dou, Carlos "Famoso" Hernandez, Augustus, Goyo Vargas, Gerena, Manfredy, Genara Hernandez, Jukko, Jesus Chavez. All guys were either champions or top 10 fighters when Floyd fought them. -Moved up in weight from 130 to challenge the top guy at lightweight and the champion Jose Luis Castillo. Won a close decision but then a more decisive decision in an immediate rematch. -Has consistently looked impressive in most if not near all of his wins. Can't argue with the facts. tillman78 01-16-2005, 01:57 PM James Toney... Who Has He Beaten At Heavyweight To Get A Title Shot. damonbleed 01-16-2005, 02:18 PM Pretty much everyone thats been named is a great fighter(except Ruiz) so why are people saying they are overated. Mayweather,Toney, Jones, and DLH are all great fighters who have exceptional skills and pretty good resumes.With the exception of DLH and Jones who's styles depend on speed and reflexes are all still great. :confused: Do you just hate these fighters because I really haven't heard any valid reasons as to why they are overated other than "they suck" and "they had sex with my mom" type of reasons. MexicanBoxer 01-16-2005, 06:37 PM Manny pac mainly becuase people are saying he will beat anyone and is undistructable, its mainly due to his website where everyone thinks hes a god, hes really good but VEEEEEERY ONE DEMENSIONAL AND COULD GET OUT BOX LIKE MARQUEZ PROVED. HE IS P4P BUT WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING ON HIS WEBSITE LIKE HE WILL KO ERIK MORALES IN 3 ROUNDS THAT INSANE, HES BEING OVERARRTED BY HIS FANS AT TIMES NOT THE AVERAGE BOXING FAN. MexicanBoxer 01-16-2005, 06:37 PM ALSO I FORGOT 2 MENTION ARTURO Gatti nezahualcoyotl 01-16-2005, 07:04 PM Tarver, Mosley, floyd mayweather are the three most overrated fighter rightnow. Mosley got beat, so did tarver, and floyd will at the hands of moralles or pacqiao. Yes totally agree. Mayweather will be exposed soon enough. he is following in RJJ footsteps. A shame 2 b/c he has so much natural/raw ablility. If you gave Mayweather Erik Morale's heart...PBF would be SIC! Hurlex 01-16-2005, 07:16 PM cotto and hatton..both praised for beating and dominating bums and opponents that arnt good or overhyped...both have a lot to prove before even being in to 5 welterweights...which most have tem in their top 5..i wonder why..they havent done sh*t or beat anyone to brag - Evil - 01-16-2005, 07:35 PM cotto and hatton..both praised for beating and dominating bums and opponents that arnt good or overhyped...both have a lot to prove before even being in to 5 welterweights...which most have tem in their top 5..i wonder why..they havent done sh*t or beat anyone to brag Maybe Cotto and Hatton just made decent fighters look like bums! Light welter is the best division, its the division with the most depth and i consider their wins to be a lot better than you make out. Look at who Hopkins has been fighting for the last couple of years, and he's rated the best P4P fighter. I think Cotto and Hatton have a lot to prove in their own division but as far as boxing goes they have prove a lot already. These two are underated by you. JaNnO 01-16-2005, 08:12 PM Maybe Cotto and Hatton just made decent fighters look like bums! Light welter is the best division, its the division with the most depth and i consider their wins to be a lot better than you make out. Look at who Hopkins has been fighting for the last couple of years, and he's rated the best P4P fighter. I think Cotto and Hatton have a lot to prove in their own division but as far as boxing goes they have prove a lot already. These two are underated by you. i know i would getting a big howl from a lot of morales' fans here...but i believe erik is a little bit overrated. i know he was a a 4-division champion but his moving up at 130 and presumably at 135 without cleaning those weight classes made me think that he has been ducking fighters he knows who could be threat to his ring records. it seems to me that morales hasn't really fought the best at featherweight and superfeatherweight divisions and seems only picking smaller guys who just recently moved at his weight class and have not proven themselves to be competitive at that level. sure when he moved to 130 and beat gutty espadas, jesus chavez and carlos hernandez but his wins were not impressive by some experts' standards. besides those two were not the best fighters in that division. at 126 he obviously he didn't want a piece of juan manuel marquez which lead many to think that he was really ducking him. and his loss to mab only strengthens some people's belief that he was indeed overrated. and now he is fighting another smaller guy (manny pacquiao) in his home turf, 130-lb that is. ottoevans 01-16-2005, 08:16 PM Chico is Overated, people forget real quick how casamayor and mayweather did to him. Also i think Mayweather is rated just by the talent he posses than what he has faced. Ricky Hatton and Cotto have not faced anyone decent because well they are young and peopl need to be patient before they judge them as overated. nezahualcoyotl 01-16-2005, 08:17 PM i know i would getting a big howl from a lot of morales' fans here...but i believe erik is a little bit overrated. i know he was a a 4-division champion but his moving up at 130 and presumably at 135 without cleaning those weight classes made me think that he has been ducking fighters he knows who could be threat to his ring records. it seems to me that morales hasn't really fought the best at featherweight and superfeatherweight divisions and seems only picking smaller guys who just recently moved at his weight class and have not proven themselves to be competitive at that level. sure when he moved to 130 and beat gutty espadas, jesus chavez and carlos hernandez but his wins were not impressive by some experts' standards. besides those two were not the best fighters in that division. at 126 he obviously he didn't want a piece of juan manuel marquez which lead many to think that he was really ducking him. and his loss to mab only strengthens some people's belief that he was indeed overrated. and now he is fighting another smaller guy (manny pacquiao) in his home turf, 130-lb that is. Wow! u think so? then what would that make Pac-man? over-over rated? I remember him beating up Emmanual Lucero (lil punk kid) who lost to a journey man on espn2. Lets face it tho - the most fun division to watch is the 126-130lb divisions. nezahualcoyotl 01-16-2005, 08:18 PM Wow! u think so? then what would that make Pac-man? over-over rated? I remember him beating up Emmanual Lucero (lil punk kid) who lost to a journey man on espn2. Lets face it tho - the most fun division to watch is the 126-130lb divisions. I could care less who's over or under rated as long as its fun 2 watch...boxing is entertainment. i want to be entertained dammit! ottoevans 01-16-2005, 08:21 PM oh also Pac-man is overated I truly beleive that night against Barrera was a fluke and pacman was underestimated. He lost against Marquez he only had one round which was the 3 Knockdown round. But if Marquez or barrera faught him again i think he would get dominated. I think he will beat Morales because hes also one dimentional although he posses great boxing skills. - Evil - 01-16-2005, 08:42 PM Bernard Hopkins, he's an exellent fighter but hasnt beaten enough quality fighters to be considered P4P number 1. Tito and DLH are quality fighters but not from the same weight class. JaNnO 01-16-2005, 09:13 PM Wow! u think so? then what would that make Pac-man? over-over rated? I remember him beating up Emmanual Lucero (lil punk kid) who lost to a journey man on espn2. Lets face it tho - the most fun division to watch is the 126-130lb divisions. nah - that would make pacman the small guy who wants to fight the very best - (even if it means going to his opponent's home turf)!!! lucero was unbeaten until he faced pac. i agree with you on your last comment tho. JaNnO 01-16-2005, 09:16 PM oh also Pac-man is overated I truly beleive that night against Barrera was a fluke and pacman was underestimated. He lost against Marquez he only had one round which was the 3 Knockdown round. But if Marquez or barrera faught him again i think he would get dominated. I think he will beat Morales because hes also one dimentional although he posses great boxing skills. the pac-jmm fight was a draw -- get over it. that's why pac wanted a rematch until jmm priced himself out of the fight (chickened out)! kadyo 01-16-2005, 09:19 PM Must be the middleweight Hoya. As a welterweight, we just have to see if he can beat tzsyu. :D Tha Greatest 01-16-2005, 11:34 PM i know u might think mayweather and all those guys are over rated, just cuz their not perfect in everyway dont mean they cant be good I only think Shane Mosley is over rated Powerpunch4u 01-17-2005, 01:25 AM Right now it would be Tito Trinidad because all he did was KO a blown up welter who drops his hands. For now thats my call until Tito beats Winky or any other Champion. Oh and please stop being silly thinking Tito should try fighting Hopkins again. I wanna see Tito fighting and become a great Champion. I don't want to see get outboxed and retired again. Hopkins is not gonna drop his hands like Mayorga. LittleBigMan 01-17-2005, 10:52 PM Ricky Hatton LittleBigMan 01-17-2005, 10:53 PM Mosley is also insanely overrated davico 01-17-2005, 10:56 PM Ricky Hatton and Antonio Tarver |